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[Odie]

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Misraq,
What I mentioned above is my true standing. Protestant is a huge group. I am not a member of any sect. Specially now but I go to bothe Ethiopian and international evangelical churches. No a particular member now. I usually favored to go to MKC and full gospel churches in Ethiopia. Of most pastors my personal favorite used to be Pastor Daniel Makonen as he preaches the right gospel much experience and revelation. I have a reason to believe he was a good pastor. I don’t know much of the young and new ones in detail.
There is nothing I am hiding. I would comment on evangelicals or protestants about wrong things as I do to EoC. In all christian congregations there are strengths and weaknesses. I like the EoC contribution to national unity and their yaredic ሽብሽባ ከበሮ and ወረብ. But I focus on Jesus, his preaching, his teaching how to be saved, reading and living the bible which are the 66 canonical books but I don’t mind reading for knowledge the rest of the canonical books of other churches, EoC included. I believe the 66 books are thought to be strictly most inspired than the ones left out by evangelicals/protestans. Again, the number of books is not a point to fight on as far as some one believes in Jesus and lives the inspired bible.
The problem with you guys is not being open minded and መፅሃፍትና ራእይን ያለመመርመር ጉዳይ ነው:: EoC is intertwined with most Ethiopian lives in culture, heroism, Nationalist view, ownership, so called originality and orthodoxy etc instead of being a way of salvation and path to truth alone. Who ever commented or criticized on EoC is looked as የማርያም ጠላት and demon possessed, hater etc which is wrong. Because of foreign invasion, past colonization attacks and hate toward Africans has rendered us to stick to what we had and without being open to the outside world. Ethiopians should examine ideas, acquire knowledge and have to be willing to change if necessary. My point of discussion is not to propagate hate or anything against orthodox but this is my thought. In a politically polarized country discussing this subject could be polarizing in itself and stop it here. If EoC no more emphasizes on angel worship and brings Jesus to the forefront, that is an excellent disposition. But I liked the EoC in Tigray emphasize on Jesus and willing to call cults in their names if there is no political motivation to it!
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በጉራግኛ ተናጋሪ የኢትዮጵያ ማህበረሰብ እንደ ወላይታ ማህበረሰብ ጦሳ፣ ስሙን ካልዘነጋሁ፣ የሚባል ኣለ? ካለ ምን ይባላል?
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This is not a subject of discussion in this thread!

[Naga Tuma]

Misraq,
What I mentioned above is my true standing. Protestant is a huge group. I am not a member of any sect. Specially now but I go to bothe Ethiopian and international evangelical churches. No a particular member now. I usually favored to go to MKC and full gospel churches in Ethiopia. Of most pastors my personal favorite used to be Pastor Daniel Makonen as he preaches the right gospel much experience and revelation. I have a reason to believe he was a good pastor. I don’t know much of the young and new ones in detail.
There is nothing I am hiding. I would comment on evangelicals or protestants about wrong things as I do to EoC. In all christian congregations there are strengths and weaknesses. I like the EoC contribution to national unity and their yaredic ሽብሽባ ከበሮ and ወረብ. But I focus on Jesus, his preaching, his teaching how to be saved, reading and living the bible which are the 66 canonical books but I don’t mind reading for knowledge the rest of the canonical books of other churches, EoC included. I believe the 66 books are thought to be strictly most inspired than the ones left out by evangelicals/protestans. Again, the number of books is not a point to fight on as far as some one believes in Jesus and lives the inspired bible.
The problem with you guys is not being open minded and መፅሃፍትና ራእይን ያለመመርመር ጉዳይ ነው:: EoC is intertwined with most Ethiopian lives in culture, heroism, Nationalist view, ownership, so called originality and orthodoxy etc instead of being a way of salvation and path to truth alone. Who ever commented or criticized on EoC is looked as የማርያም ጠላት and demon possessed, hater etc which is wrong. Because of foreign invasion, past colonization attacks and hate toward Africans has rendered us to stick to what we had and without being open to the outside world. Ethiopians should examine ideas, acquire knowledge and have to be willing to change if necessary. My point of discussion is not to propagate hate or anything against orthodox but this is my thought. In a politically polarized country discussing this subject could be polarizing in itself and stop it here. If EoC no more emphasizes on angel worship and brings Jesus to the forefront, that is an excellent disposition. But I liked the EoC in Tigray emphasize on Jesus and willing to call cults in their names if there is no political motivation to it!

በጉራግኛ ተናጋሪ የኢትዮጵያ ማህበረሰብ እንደ ወላይታ ማህበረሰብ ጦሳ፣ ስሙን ካልዘነጋሁ፣ የሚባል ኣለ? ካለ ምን ይባላል?

This is not a subject of discussion in this thread!

Ok. I will start a new thread to ask the same question.

[Misraq]

ከሕንድ ያመጣኽው ቁንዳላኒ አጋንንታዊ መንፈስን ይዘህማ መንፈስ ቅዱስ ነው አትለንም። የመንፈስ ቅዱስ ወጤቶችን ሐዋርያው ቅዱስ ጳውሎስ ነግሮናል። እናንተ ጋር ያለው የሁከት፡ የጫጫታ ፡ የመንፈራገጥ ፡ የሳቅና የፈስ መንፈስ የቁንዱናሊ መንፈስ ነው።

ገላትያ 5:22-23

የመንፈስ ፍሬ ግን ፍቅር፣ ደስታ፣ ሰላም፣ ትዕግሥት፣ ቸርነት፣ በጎነት፣ ታማኝነት፣ ገርነት፣ ራስን መግዛት ነው። እንደነዚህ ያሉትንም የሚከለክል ሕግ የለም።

[Odie]

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[color=#0000FF]ከሕንድ ያመጣኽው ቁንዳላኒ አጋንንታዊ መንፈስን ይዘህማ መንፈስ ቅዱስ ነው አትለንም። የመንፈስ ቅዱስ ወጤቶችን ሐዋርያው ቅዱስ ጳውሎስ ነግሮናል። እናንተ ጋር ያለው የሁከት፡ የጫጫታ ፡ የመንፈራገጥ ፡ የሳቅና የፈስ መንፈስ የቁንዱናሊ መንፈስ ነው።
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ገላትያ 5:22-23

የመንፈስ ፍሬ ግን ፍቅር፣ ደስታ፣ ሰላም፣ ትዕግሥት፣ ቸርነት፣ በጎነት፣ ታማኝነት፣ ገርነት፣ ራስን መግዛት ነው። እንደነዚህ ያሉትንም የሚከለክል ሕግ የለም።
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ይሄ ጥቅስ ጠንቅቄ አውቀዋለሁ:: ላብራራልሽ እችላለሁ ግን አይጠቅምም:: I am not interested in the Ethiopian tradition of ብሽሽቅ ፉክክር or አፈታሪክ እና ፈጠራ!
Good for you !
አንድ ሺህ ነገር አምጥተሽ ብትለጥፊ ምንም ለውጥ አታመጭም አለማወቅ ወይም ግትርነት ከማሳየት በስተቀር::
የአግዚአብሄር መንፈስ በፍጥረቱና በሚያምኑት ውስጥ ስላለ ነው ህይወት በምድር ያለው:: እርሱ ወደእምነት ወደክርስቶስ ይመራል:: ስዎችን ስለ ሃጢያት ለንስሃ ይወቅሳል:: It is real. There is no way to mix it with eastern demonic rituals or other believed. As Jesus said my sheep know me and I know them by their names. We are not either scared or lost!
ስው ሶሰት አይነት ነው:: ተፈጥሮአዊ ወይም carnal man who does everything the way he/she feels it fit. Spiritual man who knows spiritual things and lives in spirit and ስጋዊ ክርስቲያን that lives in flesh but with christian knowledge only but lives a secular life. Find yourself among the three. ብዙው መንፈሳዊዉ ነገር ከዚህ በላይ ሊገባሽ ስለማይችል ከዚህ በላይ ውይይት አስፈላጊ አይመስለኝም:: የተወያየናቸው ቁም ነገሮች ለሚያስተውል በቂ ነው:: ታቦት ለዛውም 44 ስራ ፈትነትና መፅሃፍ ቅዱሳዊ አይደለም:: የስኔ ጎልጎታ ፍካሬ እየሱሰ ደግሞ መዝሙረ ዳዊትን ብቻ ደግሞ ወንጌል ሳይጨመር ክርስቲያን መሆን አይቻልም:: በተዝካር ስው ነብሱ አይፈታም::ሳይሞት መንገድ ከእየሱሰ ጋር ካላስተካከሉ:: ስው ወንብዶ ከሞተ በሁዋላ ቢቀደስለት አይድንም:: መላእክት ቅዱሳንን የሚጠብቁ በእግዚአብሄር የሚላኩ አገልጋይ እንጂ ቤተክርስቲያን የሚስራላቸው አይደሉም:: ስለማርያምም ብዙ ማለት ይቻላል:: የተከበረች የጌታችን እናት እንጂ እንደ ካቶሊክና ኦርቶዶክስ የሚጨመር አያሻትም:: መዳን በሌላ በማንም የለም እንድንድንበት የተገባ ለስው ልጆች የተስጠ ስም ከስማይ በታች ሌላ ስም የለምና::ሐዋርያት 4:12
There is no orthodox or muslim or pagan or protestant ethiopia. Separate religion from gov and politics and coexist untill christ returns is the best motto to live together!

[Misraq]

Pastor

You said a lot of crappy things, as expected from a low life Lazy and Theif Pente. I have asked you on whether Jesus saved lives for 1959 years or not and you escape all three time.

I showed you that your cult organization was established on 1959. According to you, all people before 1959 are doomed. How moron are you? I showed you the foreign demonic spirits the Pente church uses to waw its followers and this spirit is Kundalini.

Do you speaker in tongue....shandalalababababanaba?

Or do you use the spirit of f@rt. Or do you use the spirit of laughter. የዞረብህ ጅል።

This is what you practice.....

[Axumezana]

Setan is a master of imitation & deception , the Spirit of God and the spirit of setan are real but not the same. The Bible says you shall know them by their fruit!

[Misraq]

የፈስ መንፈስ በጳንጤ እና በeastern Hindu ባዕድ አልኮ።

[Naga Tuma]

ገላትያ 5:22-23

የመንፈስ ፍሬ ግን ፍቅር፣ ደስታ፣ ሰላም፣ ትዕግሥት፣ ቸርነት፣ በጎነት፣ ታማኝነት፣ ገርነት፣ ራስን መግዛት ነው። እንደነዚህ ያሉትንም የሚከለክል ሕግ የለም።

ይሄ ጥቅስ ጠንቅቄ አውቀዋለሁ:: ላብራራልሽ እችላለሁ ግን አይጠቅምም:: I am not interested in the Ethiopian tradition of ብሽሽቅ ፉክክር or አፈታሪክ እና ፈጠራ!
Good for you !
አንድ ሺህ ነገር አምጥተሽ ብትለጥፊ ምንም ለውጥ አታመጭም አለማወቅ ወይም ግትርነት ከማሳየት በስተቀር::
የአግዚአብሄር መንፈስ በፍጥረቱና በሚያምኑት ውስጥ ስላለ ነው ህይወት በምድር ያለው:: እርሱ ወደእምነት ወደክርስቶስ ይመራል:: ስዎችን ስለ ሃጢያት ለንስሃ ይወቅሳል:: It is real. There is no way to mix it with eastern demonic rituals or other believed. As Jesus said my sheep know me and I know them by their names. We are not either scared or lost!
ስው ሶሰት አይነት ነው:: ተፈጥሮአዊ ወይም carnal man who does everything the way he/she feels it fit. Spiritual man who knows spiritual things and lives in spirit and ስጋዊ ክርስቲያን that lives in flesh but with christian knowledge only but lives a secular life. Find yourself among the three. ብዙው መንፈሳዊዉ ነገር ከዚህ በላይ ሊገባሽ ስለማይችል ከዚህ በላይ ውይይት አስፈላጊ አይመስለኝም:: የተወያየናቸው ቁም ነገሮች ለሚያስተውል በቂ ነው:: ታቦት ለዛውም 44 ስራ ፈትነትና መፅሃፍ ቅዱሳዊ አይደለም:: የስኔ ጎልጎታ ፍካሬ እየሱሰ ደግሞ መዝሙረ ዳዊትን ብቻ ደግሞ ወንጌል ሳይጨመር ክርስቲያን መሆን አይቻልም:: በተዝካር ስው ነብሱ አይፈታም::ሳይሞት መንገድ ከእየሱሰ ጋር ካላስተካከሉ:: ስው ወንብዶ ከሞተ በሁዋላ ቢቀደስለት አይድንም:: መላእክት ቅዱሳንን የሚጠብቁ በእግዚአብሄር የሚላኩ አገልጋይ እንጂ ቤተክርስቲያን የሚስራላቸው አይደሉም:: ስለማርያምም ብዙ ማለት ይቻላል:: የተከበረች የጌታችን እናት እንጂ እንደ ካቶሊክና ኦርቶዶክስ የሚጨመር አያሻትም:: መዳን በሌላ በማንም የለም እንድንድንበት የተገባ ለስው ልጆች የተስጠ ስም ከስማይ በታች ሌላ ስም የለምና::ሐዋርያት 4:12
There is no orthodox or muslim or pagan or protestant ethiopia. Separate religion from gov and politics and coexist untill christ returns is the best motto to live together!

ኣንተ የዚህ ዘመን ኣንዱ ሃሰተኛ ሰባኪ መሆን በመለኮታዊ አሰራር የተገለጠዉ ነሓሴ 28፣ 2017፣ ዓም ከሆነ የተገለጠዉን ኣንብበህ የማወቅ ችሎቻ ዬለህም ወይስ ጣዖት የተባለዉ ታቦት ማንቁርትህን ይዞህ መለኮታዊ ቅጣት እየቀጣህ ነዉ? ስለካድከዉ። ታቦትን የነካ ኢትዮጵያን የነካ ማለት ይሆን?

ኣዋቂ ነኝ ብለህ ስንቱን እያወራህ ስንቴ ከምትዋረድ አምላክ ምን እንደሆነ እና አሰራሩ እንዴት እንደሆነ እንዲገባህ ማጥናት ትችላለህ?

አምላክ ማለት ብቻ ሳይሆን መኖሩ የተገለጠልህ እና የምታምን ከሆነ ነዉ።

የኣምላክ ተዓምራዊ አሰራር እዚህ ዉስጥም ኣለ። እግዝኣብሔር ያልረሳዉን እግዝኣብሔር ኣስባለዉ።

መለኮታዊ አሰራር በየዘመኑ የሚገለጥበት መንገድ ኣለዉ እና ኣዲሱ አሮጌዉን ያድስ ማለት ኣንድ ነገር ነዉ።

የጥንት ነብይ ቃላት ተሸካሚ እና ጠባቂ ታቦት ጣዖት ነዉ ማለት ሃጥዓት መፈጸም ኣይዴለም፧

[Odie]

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በእኔ እምነት ይሄ የለጠፍከው/የለጠፍሽው የሚኖረው ያው የ እግዚአብሄር መንፈስ የሌለበት እየሱሰ የተገፋበት የተጨቆነበት 44 ታቦት ያለበት የጠረፏ ንግስት የምትመለክበት ስው ቤተክህነት ወይም ቤተክርስቲያን የሚቀበርበት ፍታት የሚስጥበት ይሆኖል እንጂ እኔ ጋ እንደዚህ ነገር ተቀባይነት የለውም :lol:
ስው አርባ ቀን ስለጦመ እሮብ አርብ አሳ እየበላ ሌላ ስጋ ስላልበላ መንግስተ ስማይ አይገባም:: መዳን በእምነት መንገድና ህይወት በሆነው እየሱሰ ብቻ ነው:: ኢየሱሰ ደግሞ ፍፁም ስው ሆኖ የተወለደ ለሃጢአጣችን የስቀለ የተስቃየ የሞተ ወደ መቃብር የወረደ ወንጌልን ለሙታን ሁሉ የስበከ አለቅነትና ስልጣንን ሽሮ በአብ ቀኝ የተቀመጠ ስማያዊ ስጋ የለበስ ስለኛ ብቻውን የሚያማልድ ተመልሶ የሚመጣ ንጉሳችንና ተስፋችን የሁሉ ስራ በፊቱ ያለ ተመልሶ የሚመጣ የሚያምኑበት የሚስበስብ ፍፁም አምላክ ነው:: እዚህ ላይም አንዳንዶች ችግር አለባቸው:: በእየሱሰ ፍፁም ስጋ ለብሶ መወለድ:: ይህ ቤተክርስቲያናትን ገምሶ የሚከፍል እምነት ነው:: ስይጣን ይህን የእምነት ቃል ሊል አይችል ደህንነት የተስጠው የእግዚአብሄር መንፈስ ያለበት እንጂ:: አባ አባት የሚል የልጁ መንፈስ ስጠን በዚህም የእግዚአብሄር ልጆች እንደሆንን እናውቃለን መንፈስም ከመንፈሳችን ጋር ይመስክራል:: እነዚ በእግዚአብሄር መንፈስ የሚመሩት የእግዚአብሄር ልጆች ናቸው::

ወደ ሮሜ 8:27
በእግዚአብሔር መንፈስ የሚመሩ ሁሉ እነዚህ የእግዚአብሔር ልጆች ናቸውና። አባ አባት ብለን የምንጮኽበትን የልጅነት መንፈስ ተቀበላችሁ እንጂ እንደገና ለፍርሃት የባርነትን መንፈስ አልተቀበላችሁምና:: የእግዚአብሔር ልጆች መሆናችንን ያ መንፈስ ራሱ ከመንፈሳችን ጋር ይመሰክራል። ልጆች ከሆንን ወራሾች ደግሞ ነን፤ ማለት የእግዚአብሔር ወራሾች ነን፥ አብረንም ደግሞ እንድንከበር አብረን መከራ ብንቀበል ከክርስቶስ ጋር አብረን ወራሾች ነን።

The new modern generation all over the world practices devil attracting practices including yoga, eastern culture in the name of wellness and touches and practices occult things and many rituals even in bigger christian churches may practice these; you may go to irecha and other pagan gathering as a christian and may get filled with contrary spirit to Jesus. However real christians know where the devil is worshipped and practiced and they don’t do or go where these are practiced including what you posted in malice. Good try but wrong!
የሚያስለፈልፍ በውስጥህ ላይጠፋ ስለሚችል ብዙ ነገር ጋር ስትጋጭና ስትቀምስ የገባ ጥሩ መንፈሳዊ ቤተክርስቲያን ጋ ሄደህ እራስህን አስመርምር:: እናንተም ጋ በየሱስ ስም ቄስ ግርማ አጋንንት ሲያስለፈልፉ ስላየሁ ወይም እዚያ ሂድ!!
በተረፈ በእውነት የትግራይ EoC ወደ ኢየሱሰ ዘወር ካለች እንደገና አስከነዷችሁ ማለት ነው ሳናደንቅ አናልፍም:: እንዲዚያ ደህንነት የገባቸው ቄሶችን ነው ኢሳያስ በኮንቴይነር አሽጎ የሚያበስብሳቸው:: ፍርዱን ያገኛል አምላክ ፍርድ ይኖረዋል የዘገየ ቢመስልም:: መሄጃው ደርሶ መሄጃውን ማስተካከል ያልፈለገ ግትር ስው!

[ethiopianunity]

Pastor Odie,

Don't hide yourself in the general protestant religious cult. We know there are over 47,000 different protestant denominations each of you have your own dogma. You have the audacity to speak about Orthodox dogma while you Protestants don't share one dogma

To start with, tell us which dinomination you are in. I know you won't tell me that because I can grab your balls in a painful way. So be brave and state which one you follow. For instance, I can easily tell that you are not Lutheran, the first church Luther and his followers established in the 16th century reforming movement and I know Lutheran's respect both traditions of Orthodox and Catholics

The religion you follow is the charismatic branch which is invented less than 100 years. You are telling us Jesus hasn't saved for a good 1900 years?. Now be brave and come out from your shell by telling us your dinomination. Only then, we can take you seriously.

I am not a protestant. I am a christian and believe in Jesus. I don’t represent any sect so don’t expect anything beyond that. Yes, EoC has dogma and won’t escape scrutiny. Like the political tide, EoC is passing through that. No word mincing is required. The EoC during dark ages and internal conflicts, muslim and Oromo war was disconnected from the outside world. That is why we have ገዳም on cliff etc for the church to survive. One of the criticism on the EoC has been it merged local african traditions into christian practice including conversion to ደብተራ and worship of angels, dead holly people etc which may exist in catholic and other eastern orthodox but not biblical. EoC was influenced too much by kings and governments and got power through that. It ended up to mostly focus on dogma of Old testament and jewish traditions because of the theoretical oral tradition connection to Solomonic dynasty which diluted the EoC christian belief system. It has now bent for the OPDO/PP system and not even advocating for its priests being killed to keep its power and influences. Yes, EoC has influenced all spheres of the countries culture in clouding work ethics in bad and good ways and there is a space for EoC to change although not the way the Oromo imbeciles want to change it and it may be happening. Large groups drop out and form their own congregation called AMANUEL fellowship and this trend will follow in the generation to come. This is not hate and it is truth the EoC need to look at otherwise will have internal division etc.
You may not want to talk about it but it is the truth.

LASTLY TO BE FAIR, it does not mean all protestants are doing it right. All protestants are correct! I don’t obviously sign into many of the fake prophetic and prosperity gospel ventures which are not in themselves important for salvation. You are right there are innumerable varieties of protestants. Earthly type of church is not important for salvation. It is b believing in jesus, following his teachings and following Gods word living in it are the most important whatever christianity sect someone belongs to. Fellowship with other christians and church is generally good for spiritual and secular life. I don’t see why an evangelical of sound mind won’t have a good relation and even fellowship with orthodox or catholics if they both believe in bible, live it and believe in Jesus. It is personal life and practice which is most important. It should be as simple as that but we polarize it!

Typical hiding place, l am not this religion but l am Christian. You have posted in the past pro Protestant information.

Good one Misraq, you know your shtick, አፋጠጥሽው He is back tracking what religion he is in just to be safe.

I have noticed Shabia, Tplfites usually never defend Orthodox. This proves how Eritreans and Tigrayans are affected by this proof enough, these population only make money and fame in Orthodox and are no longer faithful. I guarantee Tabote Zion is no longer in Axum as well that is why Tigray is no longer important and being destroyed.

[ethiopianunity]

I really can't picture you helling from Tigray as Tigray has been devout Orthodox. Who knows fame and fortune can make them change.

If you are against Tabot, it means you have no understanding of

You are lost. The whole Israels' and Ethiopians talks about the people that lived there including Armenians, Assyrians, maybe Greeks. That is it, not West or Europe who are currently colonizing Israel, has to be proven. However Islam via Turkey did huge disadvantage in the regions. I doubt Ethiopia's artifacts and even the covenant still exists since Derg/ Tplf. Millions of artifacts have been stolen and are found online for sale!

Man,
Tabot has no value because the tabot, the sacrifice, the priest Jesus replaced them. Orthodox does not necessarly mean Tabot. Nobody knows where the Tabot is. I personally don’t believe neither in tabot nor its presence in Ethiopia. But I respect your belief if you believe in Tabot which was an old testament thing only venerated in few churches in the world. I doubt even the egyptian coptic church where HoA orthodox church initially rooted has Tabot. They worship openly like evangelicals. The move by Tigray orthodox to Jesus and change in dogma is interesting and a surprising move and awakening which the EoC should follow. EoC has to clean up a lot of dogma and local philosophy to focus everything on Jesus and follow spirituality abandoning carnality like bringing out Tabot to worldly people like tiktokers and the likes of rappers and public dancing at church ground or after etc. Their current youth qouire is superb. Amharic preaching has to focus on human sin, salvation by jesus, repentance etc. Preaching in local language is verygood for ethnics to understand salvation. If EoC does not clean itself up from dogma and less canonical books it will face earthquake within itself in the internet generation that has everything on its fingertip to study and know the truth!

Although l respect your faith, most of you are arrogant and ignorant teaching the Orthodox faith that teaches Christ the original Christians, saying we are better in. Christianity? Where did you get your Christianity first from colonizers, who do violence around the world, you teaching the Orthodox faith about peace and Christianity? I understand you became traitor for you to survive because that is where the money is. Even you are not moved by the Westerners honestly admitting their faith in Christ was hijacked and their Calendar was wrong. More and more they are looking towards truth, they are finding it in the Ethiopian faith. Who originated the salvation and fasting now being adapted by all religions? There is nothing you originated but stealing Orthodox tradition clothes, mashebsheb, fasting, chimes, you name it.

Plus, the Old Testament is the origin of Christ that continued with New Testament. Without origins of Christ and Mary, you can't know Christ.

ያላልኩትን ከራስህ ሃሳብ ደባልቀህ አመጣኸው!
ችግሩ ክክርስትና ጋር አይደለም ያለው:: ከስዎች ጋር ነው:: ስዎች ክርስትናን እንደእቃ ተጠቅመው colonization oppression and stealing አስፋፉ:: በተለይም አፍሪካ ውስጥ which is wrong. ኢየሱሰ በአልም ዙርያ ሂዱና ወንጌልን አስተምሩ አህዛብን ደቀመዝሙር አርጉ አለ እንጂ ህዝብን ባርያ አድርጉ ቅኝ ግዙና ዝረፉ አላለም.Even today politicians and nations abuse christianity to their own political end. In ethiopia the kings and other past governments abused EoC to their political need. Abiy is doing that. In fact he is abusing both EoC and protestants for maintaining his power.
We are talking about unadulterated christianity as preached by Jesus. The rest has been doctored by humans to their need and that is why we need to look at the original christianity and practice that.
I did not mean we throw out old testament but we don’t have to do those Jewish practices which were practiced as a sign of Jesus before his arrival now as he is already revealed. Tabot was a covenant between the hebrew people and God but now even Jews don’t do it. ብዙዎቹ ተመሳሳይ የ hebrew ስርአቶች አሁን እውነትኛ አማላጅና ካህን እየሱሰ ስለተገለጠ እርሱ ሽሯቸዋል:: ህጉና ልህይወት የሚስጠው ትምህርት እንዳለ ሆኖ:: ብሉይ ኪዳን የመፅሃፍ ቅዱስ አካል ነው:: በውስጡ ያሉ ስርእቶች በአዲስ ኪዳን አስተምህሮት ተልውጠዋል ወይም ተካተዋል ነው!! አይሁድ እንኳ የተወውን ስርአት ሽክም ይሚሆንብኝ ምክንያት የልም!!

Odie,

You are being more exposed even in your understanding and feelings of not just Ethiopia's original faith EOTC but also you are defaming Ethiopia's history in relation of its faith. You should listen to Dr. Meskerem Lechisa on Preston's John's visit what Ethiopia was in aroundc1400-1600. At that time nations were lead by queens and kings as well as the politics was the faith. Ethiopian men were not only Christians but Kahens, farmers, soldiers, so on. Women also had their own roles. Preston John was mesmerized by Ethiopians and lived among them. Fast forward, the abuse of the Orthodox by leaders started by Derg. Prior to that, the Orthodox faith was above the Kings and queens, it was not abusing anybody. The abuse of the EOTC started by Derg, killing the Papas and is continuing till today by corrupting it, fake one with no EOTC practice are inside to embezzle the money. Hence, unless EOTC clean out the fake ones, we will not have the true faith. Tigray and Eritrea have said goodbye per Axumezana and Odie indeed, the unprecedented sin coming from Tigray and Eritrea regions in the past 60 years is true indication they have said goodbye to the Orthodox faith.

[Odie]

Pastor

You said a lot of crappy things, as expected from a low life Lazy and Theif Pente. I have asked you on whether Jesus saved lives for 1959 years or not and you escape all three time.

I showed you that your cult organization was established on 1959. According to you, all people before 1959 are doomed. How moron are you? I showed you the foreign demonic spirits the Pente church uses to waw its followers and this spirit is Kundalini.

Do you speaker in tongue....shandalalababababanaba?

Or do you use the spirit of f@rt. Or do you use the spirit of laughter. የዞረብህ ጅል።

This is what you practice.....

ፓስተር አይደለሁም!! ምላስና ስምበር ጉራና ስድብ ዘረፍ አንደኛ አይደላችሁ?
የደብተራ ትርክት ሁሉም እየጣለው ነው!
ፍሬ ቢስ!
አንብብ ዛሬ እውቀት በየቦታው ፈሷል! ተቸክለህ ዘመን ጥሎህ ሄዷል ብቻህን አትቅር!
I posted another thread for you to check out differences of christian church
ምርጥ ምርጡን ለህፃን ቀርቷል! ሁሉ ነገር ኢንተርኔት ውስጥ አለ! No body is going to follow nothing blindly! No hide and seek. Face it
You can not win with insult which is your culture ዘመኑን የሚዋጅ ትውልድ የሚያካት አስተሳሰብ ካላመጣችሁ እንደተቸከላችሁ ትቀራላችሁ:: TPLF has torn the veil and it looks other rough people are continuing to undo it. Be smart and salvage the time!

[ethiopianunity]

Pastor

You said a lot of crappy things, as expected from a low life Lazy and Theif Pente. I have asked you on whether Jesus saved lives for 1959 years or not and you escape all three time.

I showed you that your cult organization was established on 1959. According to you, all people before 1959 are doomed. How moron are you? I showed you the foreign demonic spirits the Pente church uses to waw its followers and this spirit is Kundalini.

Do you speaker in tongue....shandalalababababanaba?

Or do you use the spirit of f@rt. Or do you use the spirit of laughter. የዞረብህ ጅል።

This is what you practice.....

ፓስተር አይደለሁም!! ምላስና ስምበር ጉራና ስድብ ዘረፍ አንደኛ አይደላችሁ?
የደብተራ ትርክት ሁሉም እየጣለው ነው!
ፍሬ ቢስ!
አንብብ ዛሬ እውቀት በየቦታው ፈሷል! ተቸክለህ ዘመን ጥሎህ ሄዷል ብቻህን አትቅር!
I posted another thread for you to check out differences of christian church
ምርጥ ምርጡን ለህፃን ቀርቷል! ሁሉ ነገር ኢንተርኔት ውስጥ አለ! No body is going to follow nothing blindly! No hide and seek. Face it
You can not win with insult which is your culture ዘመኑን የሚዋጅ ትውልድ የሚያካት አስተሳሰብ ካላመጣችሁ እንደተቸከላችሁ ትቀራላችሁ:: TPLF has torn the veil and it looks other rough people are continuing to undo it. Be smart and salvage the time!

Who would have thought you have removed your vail, welcome to Tplf and Odie!

[Misraq]

Pastor Odie,

You tried hard to be illusive. When you disrespect me, I drag you to the mud and show you in the language you understand. If you insult me. Expect more insults. This is called self defence. As I do that. You switched gear and went into politics attacking my people and origin. You see, you lose in all thing you try to outsmart. Yemerkato chullo is good one one thing and only one thing. You know it. I.E Theft. That is what your people teach you and raise you.

Now let's go back to the subject by asking you for the 5th time on whether Jesus saved life till the year 1959. That year is the year your cult Full Gospel is established. Now, don't evade and answer it. People are noticing you.

The other questions you evaded was 1) do you speak in tongues? Shandalababababababa.....?
2) are you gifted with the spirit of f@rt? 3) are you gifted with the spirit of loughter?

I showed you a proof that the Kundalini hindu Spirit does all this and other miracles. You know you have demonic spirit within you. Tell the truth.