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Re: ETHIOPIA HAS PUT THE REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND ON THE WORLD MAP!

Post by Horus » 11 Jan 2024, 15:01

የተለያየ ህልም የሚያዩ ባንድ አልጋ ላይ ይተኛሉ ይባላል ። ኦሮሙማ አማራ ውስጥ ቅርቃር ግብቶ ጦሩ እየፈረሰ ካልጋው ሊወድቅ አንድ ሃሙስ ሲቀረው ብሄራዊ ጥቅም የሚባለው ነጠላ ዜማ ይዞ ብቅ ማለቱ ቢያንስ ሶስት ቁልፍ ነገሮችን ከስቷል ።

(1) ኦሮሙማ እራሱን ካማራ አውጥቶ የተረፈውን ሰራዊት ሰባስቦ ለማትረፍ ማለትም ከተጋረጠበት ሙሉ በሙሉ የመከላከያ መፍረስ ዘዴ ብሎ ያመጣው ስሌት መሆኑ ... ይህ ማለት ደሞ ለፋኖ እሰዬ እንጂ ምን ሊሆን ይችላል!

(2) ሱማሌላንዶች ለ30 አመት የጸኑበትን አገር መሆን ጉዳይ ባለም ላይ አውጥቶ ያሰጣው መሆኑና

(3) ማንም አነሳው ማን ኢትዮጵያ ወደብ አልባ ' ላንድሎከድ ' አገር ሆና እንደ ማትቀጥል እንዲሁ አለም ላይ አውጥቶ ያሰጣ ክስተት ነው ።

በተረፈ ኦሮሙማ 'ከአማራ ሕግ ማስከበር ' ተረት ወደ 'ብሄራዊ ጥቅም ' ትርክት ማፈግፈጓ በፋኖ ግስጋሴ ላይ የሚያመጣው ቅንጣት ለውጥ አይኖርም ። የኢትዮጵያ ወደብ ፍላጎት ከፋኖ ትግል ጋር የተቃረነ ጉዳይ አይደለምና !




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Re: ETHIOPIA HAS PUT THE REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND ON THE WORLD MAP!

Post by Horus » 18 Jan 2024, 16:12

LIKE A FAST BILLIARD GAME MEETINGS AND STATEMENTS OF ALL KINDS OF SELF-CLAIMED STAKEHOLDERS HAVE COME AND GONE. WHAT HAS NOT GONE ANYWHERE IS THE MOU!!! THAT IS CALLED THE BOTTOM LINE. በቃ የቀው ጫጫታ ነው!!
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Re: ETHIOPIA HAS PUT THE REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND ON THE WORLD MAP!

Post by Right » 18 Jan 2024, 17:17

WHAT HAS NOT GONE ANYWHERE IS THE MOU!!!
Exactly. And one other key point here is that only Somali Landers can decide on what is best for Somali Land. Egypt and Eritrea has no business of being a self appointed lawyers of Somali Landers. Embarrassing.
It is all noise. Right now I want this issue to be parked for the time being and let us focus in getting rid of the clown.

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Re: ETHIOPIA HAS PUT THE REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND ON THE WORLD MAP!

Post by Horus » 18 Jan 2024, 17:25

Right wrote:
18 Jan 2024, 17:17
WHAT HAS NOT GONE ANYWHERE IS THE MOU!!!
Exactly. And one other key point here is that only Somali Landers can decide on what is best for Somali Land. Egypt and Eritrea has no business of being a self appointed lawyers of Somali Landers. Embarrassing.
It is all noise. Right now I want this issue to be parked for the time being and let us focus in getting rid of the clown.
ለዚህ ነው በዚህ የወደብ ጉዳይ ላይ የፋኖ ዝምታ በጣም የሚመቸኝ! ፒፒ አወቁም አላወቁም ለፋኖ ግሩም ሁኔታ ፈጥረውለታል :idea:

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Re: ETHIOPIA HAS PUT THE REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND ON THE WORLD MAP!

Post by Abere » 19 Jan 2024, 10:46

Abiy Ahmed deliberately invoked an intersecting issue fundamentally just for his own sake. But Fano has to handle this issue cautiously, not damage its reputation. This is a target to entrap Fano. Thanks, so far Fano did not make any announcement on this. It is keep doing its task.

Horus wrote:
18 Jan 2024, 17:25
Right wrote:
18 Jan 2024, 17:17
WHAT HAS NOT GONE ANYWHERE IS THE MOU!!!
Exactly. And one other key point here is that only Somali Landers can decide on what is best for Somali Land. Egypt and Eritrea has no business of being a self appointed lawyers of Somali Landers. Embarrassing.
It is all noise. Right now I want this issue to be parked for the time being and let us focus in getting rid of the clown.
ለዚህ ነው በዚህ የወደብ ጉዳይ ላይ የፋኖ ዝምታ በጣም የሚመቸኝ! ፒፒ አወቁም አላወቁም ለፋኖ ግሩም ሁኔታ ፈጥረውለታል :idea:

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Re: ETHIOPIA HAS PUT THE REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND ON THE WORLD MAP!

Post by Digital Weyane » 19 Jan 2024, 11:09

የትግራይ ህዝባችን በረሃብ እያለቀ አንድ ቃል የማትተነፍሱ ሌቦች የዓለም ህዝብ ቢንቃችሁ ለምን ይገርማችኋል? :roll: :roll:

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Re: ETHIOPIA HAS PUT THE REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND ON THE WORLD MAP!

Post by Selam/ » 19 Jan 2024, 11:31

I hope they will continue their silence because PP is a wacko entity & no sane Fano should stick their nose into this madness. Their short-term agenda is primarily liberating Amhara. Once this is accomplished, the rest of the agenda will naturally follow suit.

Horus wrote:
18 Jan 2024, 17:25
Right wrote:
18 Jan 2024, 17:17
WHAT HAS NOT GONE ANYWHERE IS THE MOU!!!
Exactly. And one other key point here is that only Somali Landers can decide on what is best for Somali Land. Egypt and Eritrea has no business of being a self appointed lawyers of Somali Landers. Embarrassing.
It is all noise. Right now I want this issue to be parked for the time being and let us focus in getting rid of the clown.
ለዚህ ነው በዚህ የወደብ ጉዳይ ላይ የፋኖ ዝምታ በጣም የሚመቸኝ! ፒፒ አወቁም አላወቁም ለፋኖ ግሩም ሁኔታ ፈጥረውለታል :idea:

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Re: ETHIOPIA HAS PUT THE REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND ON THE WORLD MAP!

Post by Horus » 24 Jan 2024, 15:26

WE CAN NOT ALWAYS PREDICT THE FUTURE BUT WE CAN ALWAYS CHOOSE THE FUTURE! THE SOMALILAND REPUBLIC CAN HELP ETHIOPIA HAVE A PORT AND BUILD A NAVY AND ETHIOPIAN CAN HELP SOMALILAND BECOME A SHINING STATE ON THE GULF OF ADEN!

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Post by Horus » 29 Jan 2024, 14:48

አበረ፣
እኔና አንተ ይህን ጉዳይ ከጨረስነውኮ ቆይቷል!
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Re: ETHIOPIA HAS PUT THE REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND ON THE WORLD MAP!

Post by Jikaar » 29 Jan 2024, 14:58

We are the solution for for all the problems In the horn . Abiy should stick with us. Because that's his only hope . There won't be any more wars after this.

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Post by Horus » 29 Jan 2024, 15:13

Jikaar wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 14:58
We are the solution for for all the problems In the horn . Abiy should stick with us. Because that's his only hope . There won't be any more wars after this.
Jikaar,
Abiy may not have a choice but to stick with the MoU. But here is Djibouti getting really frantic because IMF told them that if Ethiopia shift to Somaliland their economy will shrink by half. So they are doing all they can to sabotage the deal.


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Re: ETHIOPIA HAS PUT THE REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND ON THE WORLD MAP!

Post by Jikaar » 29 Jan 2024, 15:34

Horus wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 15:13
Jikaar wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 14:58
We are the solution for for all the problems In the horn . Abiy should stick with us. Because that's his only hope . There won't be any more wars after this.
Jikaar,
Abiy may not have a choice but to stick with the MoU. But here is Djibouti getting really frantic because IMF told them that if Ethiopia shift to Somaliland their economy will shrink by half. So they are doing all they can to sabotage the deal.

The difference is we control 800 thousand KM of coastal land. Ethiopia doesn't lack financial/economical access to the sea. It Lacks Naval access to the sea. How come Egypt can threaten our GERD. Some of ye Ethiopians thinks you are getting free ports. You are not Getting free ports where the natives are not getting any benefits. UAE wouldn't be involved here if there is no profit to make . Business is business. What we are giving Ethiopia is an unrestricted access to our oceans. We are not stupid. We too can benefit from the GERD . We are against Egypt as much as you are against them.
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Post by Jikaar » 29 Jan 2024, 15:47

Djibouti will always remain very important port for Ethiopia. It will take decades before somaliland fills the gab. The only reason Ethiopia needs somaliland is because we offer larger territory to exercise it's naval forces . Djibouti is too small for that , and Eritrea is too hostile.

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Post by Horus » 29 Jan 2024, 15:59

Jikaar wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 15:34
Horus wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 15:13
Jikaar wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 14:58
We are the solution for for all the problems In the horn . Abiy should stick with us. Because that's his only hope . There won't be any more wars after this.
Jikaar,
Abiy may not have a choice but to stick with the MoU. But here is Djibouti getting really frantic because IMF told them that if Ethiopia shift to Somaliland their economy will shrink by half. So they are doing all they can to sabotage the deal.

The difference is we control 800 thousand KM of coastal land. Ethiopia doesn't lack financial access to the sea. It Lacks Naval access to the sea. How come Egypt can threaten our GERD. Some of ye Ethiopians thinks you are getting free ports. You are not Getting free ports where the natives are not getting any benefits. UAE wouldn't be involved here if there is no profit to make . Business is business. What we are giving Ethiopia is an unrestricted access to our oceans. We are not stupid. We too can benefit from the GERD . We are against Egypt as much as you are against them.
I agree. That is why I clearly separate our opposition Abiy regime from this deal between Somaliland and Ethiopia. It is business deal based on mutual interests of the two nations. Also, younger Ethiopians will find out to their surprise the centuries of contacts and ties between Ethiopians and Somalilanders. Also this - the long term thinking among forward thinking Ethiopians is to move away from beef to fish (for ecological reasons) and the massive Ethiopian population will become a huge demand for Somaliland's fishing industry. So the opportunities are limitless except that the politics of the Horn is backward.

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Re: ETHIOPIA HAS PUT THE REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND ON THE WORLD MAP!

Post by Abere » 29 Jan 2024, 16:04

ሆረስ፤

ትክክል! ሶማሊላንድ እንደማንኛውም አገር ነኝ እንደሚል አገር- አገር መሆኗን መቀበል ሁኖ ይታያል ይህ የተባበሩት መንግስታት ፀጥታ ምክር ቤት ስብሰባ። አጀንዳ ሁኖ መቅበር የመኖር ኦፊሴላዊነት መግለጫ ነው። በእርግጥም ኢትዮጵያ ሶማሊላንድን በካርታ ላይ ተገቢ ቦታ እንድኖራት ከፍተኛ ተጽኖ ፈጥራለች።

As well know the UN is such a hypocrite institution of the very few, its attempts to re-create Somalia from the ashes after 33 years is laughable. :mrgreen: It is like to trying to wake up a dead person from a grave yard. Interestingly, Somaliland has given a lesson to the world. That is, any candidate for independent statehood should pre-qualify (by at least 10 years) of being able to function as a country, politically and economically. Those new independent countries such as South Sudan etc. instantly promoted to qualify as sovereign states now become failures of Africa because they did not undergo through rigorous criteria of pre-qualification.




Horus wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 14:48
አበረ፣
እኔና አንተ ይህን ጉዳይ ከጨረስነውኮ ቆይቷል!
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Re: ETHIOPIA HAS PUT THE REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND ON THE WORLD MAP!

Post by Jikaar » 29 Jan 2024, 16:21

Horus wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 15:59
Jikaar wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 15:34
Horus wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 15:13
Jikaar wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 14:58
We are the solution for for all the problems In the horn . Abiy should stick with us. Because that's his only hope . There won't be any more wars after this.
Jikaar,
Abiy may not have a choice but to stick with the MoU. But here is Djibouti getting really frantic because IMF told them that if Ethiopia shift to Somaliland their economy will shrink by half. So they are doing all they can to sabotage the deal.

The difference is we control 800 thousand KM of coastal land. Ethiopia doesn't lack financial access to the sea. It Lacks Naval access to the sea. How come Egypt can threaten our GERD. Some of ye Ethiopians thinks you are getting free ports. You are not Getting free ports where the natives are not getting any benefits. UAE wouldn't be involved here if there is no profit to make . Business is business. What we are giving Ethiopia is an unrestricted access to our oceans. We are not stupid. We too can benefit from the GERD . We are against Egypt as much as you are against them.
I agree. That is why I clearly separate our opposition Abiy regime from this deal between Somaliland and Ethiopia. It is business deal based on mutual interests of the two nations. Also, younger Ethiopians will find out to their surprise the centuries of contacts and ties between Ethiopians and Somalilanders. Also this - the long term thinking among forward thinking Ethiopians is to move away from beef to fish (for ecological reasons) and the massive Ethiopian population will become a huge demand for Somaliland's fishing industry. So the opportunities are limitless except that the politics of the Horn is backward.
In terms of business the average Ethiopian do not understand about this MoU. But we do , there is no free lunch. This is how it works , I own the land , some other guy builds the infrastructure , and you bring the customer. All 3 of us owns the business . Ethiopia can have this kind of relationship with any country including Somalia or Eritrea it's business. What Somaliland is offering you to you is completely different. A landlocked country can have super power naval forces in the ocean. That's what we are offering you for the next 50 years.

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Post by Jikaar » 29 Jan 2024, 16:35

In addition to that you PAY me a reasonable rent for your naval base which is 20 KM area. In exchange of a fair share of your airline. Feel free to fight any one in my Ocean. And give me my fair share of the Gerd supply line (I mean give me a cheap electricity) . Plus a diplomatic recognition . If you accept this we have a deal . If you don't no problem.

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Post by Selam/ » 29 Jan 2024, 20:28

A 50 year lease is nothing to be excited about. That’s only as long as the life span of two African governments. A land lease in Ethiopia is at least 99 years long. Recognize the independence of a neighboring country while denying the self governance of your own people is the worst crime & hypocrisy of all. I don’t give a sh!t about this deal.

Horus wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 15:59
Jikaar wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 15:34
Horus wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 15:13
Jikaar wrote:
29 Jan 2024, 14:58
We are the solution for for all the problems In the horn . Abiy should stick with us. Because that's his only hope . There won't be any more wars after this.
Jikaar,
Abiy may not have a choice but to stick with the MoU. But here is Djibouti getting really frantic because IMF told them that if Ethiopia shift to Somaliland their economy will shrink by half. So they are doing all they can to sabotage the deal.

The difference is we control 800 thousand KM of coastal land. Ethiopia doesn't lack financial access to the sea. It Lacks Naval access to the sea. How come Egypt can threaten our GERD. Some of ye Ethiopians thinks you are getting free ports. You are not Getting free ports where the natives are not getting any benefits. UAE wouldn't be involved here if there is no profit to make . Business is business. What we are giving Ethiopia is an unrestricted access to our oceans. We are not stupid. We too can benefit from the GERD . We are against Egypt as much as you are against them.
I agree. That is why I clearly separate our opposition Abiy regime from this deal between Somaliland and Ethiopia. It is business deal based on mutual interests of the two nations. Also, younger Ethiopians will find out to their surprise the centuries of contacts and ties between Ethiopians and Somalilanders. Also this - the long term thinking among forward thinking Ethiopians is to move away from beef to fish (for ecological reasons) and the massive Ethiopian population will become a huge demand for Somaliland's fishing industry. So the opportunities are limitless except that the politics of the Horn is backward.

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