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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by Union » 13 Oct 2022, 22:12

Well said! I was going to respond to Horus but you nailed it.

Good job, brother!
Educator wrote:
13 Oct 2022, 01:02
This examination thing is untimely and like putting the cart before the horse. Before testing any students, you have to teach them. Testing is a measurement of how well students are taught ( not know). Which realy means the testing is done on the teachers, how well they teach kids.

What has Birr Amtu Sainega done to the teaching process? Has he even opened libraries especially in rular areas? Has he trained teachers on how to effectively and efficiently help kids learn? has he tested teachers first? Or his job is only to administer the matriculation exam?

Just celebrating the failure of students will not guarantee quality. The priority should be how to help students pass not fail. The 800,000 students who will not make it to the universties after this exam should be given alternatives, has he suggested any yet?
If Birr amtu Sainega was smart as some wutaf nekais claim here, he should have convinced Mamo Killo to divert the budget that is wasted on the new science museum to establishing micro libraries in every school and kebele especially in rural places so kids can get access to books. The libraries would benefit the teachers as well.
If Birr Amtu Sainega asks for book donation from the diaspora, I am sure he would get a million books in a week.
Anyways, testing the kids at this time is only setting them up for failure.

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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by sun » 13 Oct 2022, 22:44

Educator wrote:
13 Oct 2022, 13:54
Abere,
You're putting some substance to the front of this issue. The point you raised has significant consequence if too many people are out of school and unemployed. Those with lack of insight for the future and wellbeing of the country and its population are celebrating the exclusion of the 800,000 students from the education system after this exam. Removing 800,000 students is their greatest achievement they expect from Birr Amitu Sainega.

It is obvious that not everyone is a university material. But there is no way to judge ethiopian students in the absence of proper and effective education system. As usual the students from private schools of the richest will pass this exam with flying colors and occupy the scarce spots in the universities while the poor and the not privilged will continue to be hopeless and desperate and eventually join the resistance to either unseat this government or breakup the country. The easiest way to self enrichment is not through education but armed violence in that part of the continent anyways.

Speaking of the 12k students who were barred from the exams would definitely be in the 800,000 group to be removed anyways, so nothing to loose for them. They couldn't compete with those from Addis Ababa private school students. Whether in the Amhara region or Oromia, schools were almost nonexistent for the last two years due to the ongoing civil war and violence in every corner of the country. Students are not made ready for yhis exam.

In any case though, this exam is rigged already. What happens if 500,000 students score 90% on the exam, the government already said there is only space for 200,000? So the 300k of them will be dropped.

The government should prepare students to pass exam not fail and hide its own failure of providing education to all.

And the wutaf nekais should stop cheerleading officials just because he/she is one of your ethnic person.

Abere wrote:
13 Oct 2022, 12:56
_____Why the students excused themselves from the examination halls? Was it premediated? What do independent media covered about this incidence? What effect will this have on others who remain seated to take the exam? Was the government expecting this before hand? If so, would not be better mechanism in place to thwart this?

____Overall, education being in the line of the crossfire is very unacceptable. These thousands of teenagers, if remained out of school for the next year(s) will certainly create more problem and headache to the country and the stability of the government. In my opinion they are an assignment to the country as they to themselves. Twelve thousand students means student population of many high schools, not a small matter. Imagine a single Woreda with a single high school - that Woreda got a good dose of headache for the year ahead. I do not have more idea about the exam process put in place now, I wish it were politics neutral. But it smells like that now.
You seem to be recommending the 50 years old tplf only one method mind set, which is still ongoing with no success whatsoever other than repeatedly using under aged poor ordinary citizens' children as cannon fodders. Hopefully ato Kassie may not be contemplating to apply the tplf criminal tricks/magics of forcefully recruiting very young people and sending them to whatever front line as cannon fodders while he himself is sitting in a clean town and clean house drinking Prime Quality Johnny walker whisky, black label. 8)

Additionally, these young people who willingly and of their own free initiation refused taking exams unless Zemen kassies is placed above the law and walk free with out any court decisions despite the constant appeals of the school authorities, teachers and community leaders asking them to take the exams, they refused and willingly chose to exclude themselves so as to harm the government and their communities by choosing ignorance and darkness instead of choosing education and bright lights both for their benefits and the benefits of all. In some countries education is compulsory up to a certain level, in which case the students may not have the choice to refuse to go to school or take exams.
:mrgreen:

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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by Right » 13 Oct 2022, 23:44

Identification syndrome.

All this dance by the tribalist is nothing but to cover up the naked opportunist and con man Dr Birr Sinega.

Birr spent a decade and half of his life at the Niyala Hotel in Asmara claiming to commander an Army against the system he now serves happily.

No. No. We will not be distracted from fighting ethnic cleansing and Amahara genocide. We will fight for the freedom of innocent journalists and Zemene Kase.

We will fight for the removal of Abiye Ahmed & Birr Sinega.

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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by Right » 13 Oct 2022, 23:53

The constitution under the Weyannies and the constitution under the PP regime is one and the same.
So is the educational system and corruption in Ethiopia.

What was bad under the Weyannies and can’t be good under PP.

MOLACHA LEBA.

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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by Selam/ » 13 Oct 2022, 23:57

How else do you call it? Making a “students refused to take exam” headline is the sole purpose of the coordinators of this protest. And who is now mainly enduring the pain? The kids and their family!

Why don’t you jump off the highest bridge in the town you live in to draw attention? Why isn’t the crappy Zemedikun himself do it rather than applauding the kids behind monitor? Don’t encourage others to do things that you yourself wouldn’t do.
TGAA wrote:
13 Oct 2022, 20:56
Selam/ wrote:
13 Oct 2022, 12:21
እንደነ ዘመድኩን በቀለ ያሉ ቅራቅንቦዎች ናቸው ልጆቹን አሳስተው እንጀራቸውን የዘጉት፣ አንደበታቸው ይዘጋና! የአማራኮ ጠላቱ እራሱ አማራ ነው።
Finally, you have joined the "Amharas commit suicide for political reasons " crowd. What a leap! I'm not a fan of Zemedkun but do you have a scintilla of evidence to support your statement" or are you assuming mentioning those individuals' names in a hyperbolic smear will devaluate the truth of the fact about a coordinated attack that is being waged against Amharas from within and without the government? Don't forget how many times have we heard 9000 OPDM members, who were working in tandem with sheenne criminals, have been purged. Did it decrease the number of civilian Amharas being killed in their villages in Oromia? People are so desensitized about these reoccurring ethnic cleansing, the death number has to be more than 300 now to be even newsworthy. Had you spelled a little bit of your ink arguing against the ethnic cleansing of Amhara children and women, your concern about the education of the Amhara students could have been valid; instead, you're proclaiming Amharas by being Amharas have become their own enemies; that must be your eureka moment. On the other hand, who can blame you when the country's prime minister equates planting a tree on the grave of the massacred to saving a life? Moral decadence of gargantuan proportion.


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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by Horus » 14 Oct 2022, 00:14

የወያኔ ዘመነ ጭለማ ተዘግቷል! የደደቢት ደደብ ጸሃይ ጠልቃለች! ይህ የብርሃን ዘመን ነውና በብርሃን ተመላለሱ! ብርሃኑን ተከተሉ !! ኬር ዬሁን !!!

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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by Right » 14 Oct 2022, 00:55

Weyannie + PP + Birr
Rest assured - they will be decimated by the Ethiopian people. Period. No conning game will stop that.

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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by TGAA » 14 Oct 2022, 01:34

Selam/ wrote:
13 Oct 2022, 23:57
How else do you call it? Making a “students refused to take exam” headline is the sole purpose of the coordinators of this protest. And who is now mainly enduring the pain? The kids and their family!

Why don’t you jump off the highest bridge in the town you live in to draw attention? Why isn’t the crappy Zemedikun himself do it rather than applauding the kids behind monitor? Don’t encourage others to do things that you yourself wouldn’t do.
TGAA wrote:
13 Oct 2022, 20:56
Selam/ wrote:
13 Oct 2022, 12:21
እንደነ ዘመድኩን በቀለ ያሉ ቅራቅንቦዎች ናቸው ልጆቹን አሳስተው እንጀራቸውን የዘጉት፣ አንደበታቸው ይዘጋና! የአማራኮ ጠላቱ እራሱ አማራ ነው።
Finally, you have joined the "Amharas commit suicide for political reasons " crowd. What a leap! I'm not a fan of Zemedkun but do you have a scintilla of evidence to support your statement" or are you assuming mentioning those individuals' names in a hyperbolic smear will devaluate the truth of the fact about a coordinated attack that is being waged against Amharas from within and without the government? Don't forget how many times have we heard 9000 OPDM members, who were working in tandem with sheenne criminals, have been purged. Did it decrease the number of civilian Amharas being killed in their villages in Oromia? People are so desensitized about these reoccurring ethnic cleansing, the death number has to be more than 300 now to be even newsworthy. Had you spelled a little bit of your ink arguing against the ethnic cleansing of Amhara children and women, your concern about the education of the Amhara students could have been valid; instead, you're proclaiming Amharas by being Amharas have become their own enemies; that must be your eureka moment. On the other hand, who can blame you when the country's prime minister equates planting a tree on the grave of the massacred to saving a life? Moral decadence of gargantuan proportion.
when you hold back yourself from unrestrained political orgy- harlotry, I might consider jumping off the bridge. In your inanity you think you are a better humanbeing than those who happen to fall under meachate in their sleep for you to gave a gurgle of laughter on thier demise . Hollow .

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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by Tiago » 14 Oct 2022, 03:04


የትኛው ትምርት እና ስራ ነው የሚቀርባቸው ????
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



ያልሰራ አይበላም how about the disabled and assorted thieves?
ያልተማረ አይፈተንም/ አይፈትንም are the teachers genuine??

"There is no rule without exceptions."

Every rule has its exception.
Every rule has an exception.
Every rule has exceptions.
There is no rule without an exception.
There is no rule without some exception.
There is no rule without some exceptions.

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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by Selam/ » 14 Oct 2022, 06:00

Bla bla bla…, all hallow wailing noise!

Again, rather than using others as cannon fodder, come down off your high horse & do it yourself whether it’s hunger strike or physical strike. I don’t preach what I don’t practice. Dense!
TGAA wrote:
14 Oct 2022, 01:34
Selam/ wrote:
13 Oct 2022, 23:57
How else do you call it? Making a “students refused to take exam” headline is the sole purpose of the coordinators of this protest. And who is now mainly enduring the pain? The kids and their family!

Why don’t you jump off the highest bridge in the town you live in to draw attention? Why isn’t the crappy Zemedikun himself do it rather than applauding the kids behind monitor? Don’t encourage others to do things that you yourself wouldn’t do.
TGAA wrote:
13 Oct 2022, 20:56
Selam/ wrote:
13 Oct 2022, 12:21
እንደነ ዘመድኩን በቀለ ያሉ ቅራቅንቦዎች ናቸው ልጆቹን አሳስተው እንጀራቸውን የዘጉት፣ አንደበታቸው ይዘጋና! የአማራኮ ጠላቱ እራሱ አማራ ነው።
Finally, you have joined the "Amharas commit suicide for political reasons " crowd. What a leap! I'm not a fan of Zemedkun but do you have a scintilla of evidence to support your statement" or are you assuming mentioning those individuals' names in a hyperbolic smear will devaluate the truth of the fact about a coordinated attack that is being waged against Amharas from within and without the government? Don't forget how many times have we heard 9000 OPDM members, who were working in tandem with sheenne criminals, have been purged. Did it decrease the number of civilian Amharas being killed in their villages in Oromia? People are so desensitized about these reoccurring ethnic cleansing, the death number has to be more than 300 now to be even newsworthy. Had you spelled a little bit of your ink arguing against the ethnic cleansing of Amhara children and women, your concern about the education of the Amhara students could have been valid; instead, you're proclaiming Amharas by being Amharas have become their own enemies; that must be your eureka moment. On the other hand, who can blame you when the country's prime minister equates planting a tree on the grave of the massacred to saving a life? Moral decadence of gargantuan proportion.
when you hold back yourself from unrestrained political orgy- harlotry, I might consider jumping off the bridge. In your inanity you think you are a better humanbeing than those who happen to fall under meachate in their sleep for you to gave a gurgle of laughter on thier demise . Hollow .


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Post by Educator » 14 Oct 2022, 10:12

"ትምህርት አሰጣጥ ላይ በርተው ሳያስተምሩ የምን ፈተና ላይ መበርታት ነው: ተማሪ በደንብ ከተማረ መኮረጅ ምን ማለት እንደሆነ አይገባውም:"

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Post by Right » 14 Oct 2022, 12:33

It is all a con game to sell Abiye as some one who cares for Ethiopia and education.
If you love Ethiopia, then change the constitution, dismantle Killil and in the process put a new educational system that benefit society. That should have been the priority.

Speaking of Education, the elites in Addis send their children to private school. Preparing the next generation for a labour market in the West. That is how Ethiopia systematically will be brain drained in the future.

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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by Tiago » 14 Oct 2022, 13:29

It is all a con game to sell Abiye as some one who cares for Ethiopia and education.
If you love Ethiopia, then change the constitution, dismantle Killil and in the process put a new educational system that benefit society. That should have been the priority.

Speaking of Education, the elites in Addis send their children to private school. Preparing the next generation for a labour market in the West. That is how Ethiopia systematically will be brain drained in the future.


Yes ,the whole system is in desperate need of revamp.
Are the supposedly educated fellows at the helm willing to do that?

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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by Selam/ » 14 Oct 2022, 16:44

ሳያስተምሩ
ሳይሰሩ
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Why don’t you then get your hands dirty and help them revamp the education system in a way that you think is better than the existing system?
Educator wrote:
14 Oct 2022, 10:12
"ትምህርት አሰጣጥ ላይ በርተው ሳያስተምሩ የምን ፈተና ላይ መበርታት ነው: ተማሪ በደንብ ከተማረ መኮረጅ ምን ማለት እንደሆነ አይገባውም:"

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Selam/
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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by Selam/ » 14 Oct 2022, 16:48

Preparing the next generation for a labour market in the West.
Hmm…! Are you not also living in the West? Live by example and return to Ethiopia tomorrow.
Right wrote:
14 Oct 2022, 12:33
It is all a con game to sell Abiye as some one who cares for Ethiopia and education.
If you love Ethiopia, then change the constitution, dismantle Killil and in the process put a new educational system that benefit society. That should have been the priority.

Speaking of Education, the elites in Addis send their children to private school. Preparing the next generation for a labour market in the West. That is how Ethiopia systematically will be brain drained in the future.

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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by Selam/ » 14 Oct 2022, 18:07

ሽፈራው ሽጉጤ የሚባል እንሽላሊት፤ በምን ምክንያት ነው ወደትምህርት ሚኒስቴር ተመልሶ የመጣው? የሆነ ተንኮል እየተሸረበ ነው።

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Re: አዋጅ አዋጅ! ያልተፈተነ አያልፍም! ያላለፈ ኮሌጅ አይገባም! የማይሰራ አይበላም! በቃ!!! 12,700 ሁለተኛ መፈተን እንደማይችሉ ተወሰነ !!!!

Post by TGAA » 14 Oct 2022, 20:21

Selam/ wrote:
14 Oct 2022, 18:07
ሽፈራው ሽጉጤ የሚባል እንሽላሊት፤ በምን ምክንያት ነው ወደትምህርት ሚኒስቴር ተመልሶ የመጣው? የሆነ ተንኮል እየተሸረበ ነው።

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