የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
አላማና እስትራተጂ አልባውን የትግሬ ዉጊያ እርሱት ። በዛሬይቱ ኢትዮጵያ ፖለቲካ የጨዋታውን ጸባይና ሚዛን እስትራተጂክ በሆነ መንገድ የሚለውጠው የትግሬና ኦሮሞ ድርድር (ድልድል) አይደለም፤ የአማራና ኤርትራ ጥምረት ነው ! ሆረስ ነኝ! ሃተታ ቢበዛ ባህያ አይጫንም!!
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
Horus hates and fears Oromos more than anything on the planet ! He would rather align with the Eris who are NOT Ethiopians than the Oromos. But I say this - hate will finally destroy this idiot !!! Oromo - Amhara will lead Ethiopia for the better
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
Several months before the war, when the Eritrean security agents announced tplf is preparing 1 million more child soldiers to attack Amara and Afar, weapons were transported from mitsiwa to all over Gonder and Wello. As a result, and with all other preparations, of cource, tplf could NOT move an inch into Gonder and into most of north Wello. The only area tplf were able to advance into Amara land is at qobo where olf led ENDF soldiers run away from qobo all the way down to Weldia 
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Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
Yesterday you were crying so loud defending Eritrea
Today you want to pretend to be oromo
make up your fckkn mind up you low IQ
Today you want to pretend to be oromo
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Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
I think, Horus is highlighting the strategic importance of Eritrea & Amhara to defeat Woyanes given their geographic location & direct exposure to TPLF ‘s threats. That doesn’t undermine the current military coalition between ENDF & Eritrean army.
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
ethiopian with small 'e' - classic weyane !
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
Selam/Selam/ wrote: ↑18 Sep 2022, 23:03I think, Horus is highlighting the strategic importance of Eritrea & Amhara to defeat Woyanes given their geographic location & direct exposure to TPLF ‘s threats. That doesn’t undermine the current military coalition between ENDF & Eritrean army.
Your reading of my statement is partly right. Militarily and geo-strategically, Amara and Eritrea will forever be borders with Tigray, I means forever. Moreover, even in the age of cyber-wars, land will remain to be the decisive element of fighting wars. አበው እንደሚሉት ሰው የሚደባደበው አጠገቡ ካለው ሰው ጋር ነው ! But this is only half of the meaning of my statement.
The critical political significance of Amara-Eritrea alliance is that the survival of Ethiopia is singularly dependent upon a strong Amara. From here on until the end of time, the Ethiopian political dynamics will be driven not by the good will of this or that ethnic group in power, but by the balance of power between and among the various ethnic groups. It is simply a given and elementary truism that an orderly, organized and strong Amara is a necessity for an Ethiopian order as air is a necessity for life.
ሆረስ አይነ ብርሃን
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
Precisely!
Horus wrote: ↑19 Sep 2022, 00:33Selam/Selam/ wrote: ↑18 Sep 2022, 23:03I think, Horus is highlighting the strategic importance of Eritrea & Amhara to defeat Woyanes given their geographic location & direct exposure to TPLF ‘s threats. That doesn’t undermine the current military coalition between ENDF & Eritrean army.
Your reading of my statement is partly right. Militarily and geo-strategically, Amara and Eritrea will forever be borders with Tigray, I means forever. Moreover, even in the age of cyber-wars, land will remain to be the decisive element of fighting wars. አበው እንደሚሉት ሰው የሚደባደበው አጠገቡ ካለው ሰው ጋር ነው ! But this is only half of the meaning of my statement.
The critical political significance of Amara-Eritrea alliance is that the survival of Ethiopia is singularly dependent upon a strong Amara. From here on until the end of time, the Ethiopian political dynamics will be driven not by the good will of this or that ethnic group in power, but by the balance of power between and among the various ethnic groups. It is simply a given and elementary truism that an orderly, organized and strong Amara is a necessity for an Ethiopian order as air is a necessity for life.
ሆረስ አይነ ብርሃን
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
እኔም ይህን የሆረስ ግንዛቤ ሙሉ በሙሉ አምንበታለሁ። የአማራ እና የኤርትራ ጥምረት ብቸኛው የሰላም እና የመረጋጋት ቁልፍ ነው። በርካታ ምክንያቶች መጥቀስ ይቻላል። ከጥቂቶቹ ግን:-
--- አማራ በየትኛውም ስፍራ ከየትኛውም ህዝብ ጋር ተቻችሎ የመኖር፤ የእምነት፤ የሰላም፤ የአገር እና የህዝብ ፍቅር ዐርበኛ ነው። በኢትዮጵያ ቀጣይነት 100% ቁርጠኛ ሲሆን በቀል እና ውሸት ይጸየፋል። በቁጥር ሲሰላም ከኢትዮጵያን ህዝብ ከፍተኛ ድርሻ ያለው ነው።
--- ኤርትራ ለረጅም አስርት አመታት በግጭት እና በማዕቀብ የተሰቃየች በመሆኗ፤የሰላም እና የብልጽግና አየር እጅግ ያስፈልጋታል። ከዚህም ባሻገር ልማት እንጅ ሁከት የሚፈልግ ህዝብ አይደለም። ከአማራ ህዝብ ጋር መሰረታዊ አብሮ የሚሄድ ባህርይ አላቸው። አብሮ የሚሄድ እንጅ የሚቃረን ግብ የላቸውም። ሁለቱም ህዝቦች መኖር ይፈልጋሉ። የኢትዮጵያ መቀጠል እጅግ እጅግ አስፈላጊ የአፍሪካ ቀንድ የህልውና ጉዳይ ነው። ኢትዮጵያ የአፍሪክ ቀንድ ልብ ነች። የእርሷ የልብ ምት ቆመ ማለት ሁሉ ጠፋ ማለት ነው። ወያኔዎች እና ሸሪኮቻቸው የሚያወሩ በተቃርኖ ነው።
--- ሌላው የአማራ እና የኤርትራ ጥምረት ለማንም ስጋት አይደለም። የሰላም ምድር መፍጠር ለሁሉም ህዝብ ጥቅም ነው። የሁከት ምድር ጥፋት ነው። ወያኔ በሁከት ሲኖር ለትግራይ ህዝብ ያፈራው በመጨረሻ ጥፋት ሆነ፥ ኦነግም ቢሆን ለኦሮሞ ህዝብ ያተረፈው ነገር የለም - ብጥብጥ፤ ግድያ፤ ከሌሎች ህዝብ እንድነጠል ማድረግ ነው።
--- ዳሩ ግን ኦነግ እና ወያኔ በኦሮሞ እና ትግራይ ህዝብ ውስጥ ስለተደበቁ የአማራ ኤርትራ ህብረት የእነርሱ የህልውና ስጋት ይመስላቸዋል። 40 አመታት አዩት- ሞከሩት ምንም ጠብ ያለ ነገር የለም።
--- አማራ በየትኛውም ስፍራ ከየትኛውም ህዝብ ጋር ተቻችሎ የመኖር፤ የእምነት፤ የሰላም፤ የአገር እና የህዝብ ፍቅር ዐርበኛ ነው። በኢትዮጵያ ቀጣይነት 100% ቁርጠኛ ሲሆን በቀል እና ውሸት ይጸየፋል። በቁጥር ሲሰላም ከኢትዮጵያን ህዝብ ከፍተኛ ድርሻ ያለው ነው።
--- ኤርትራ ለረጅም አስርት አመታት በግጭት እና በማዕቀብ የተሰቃየች በመሆኗ፤የሰላም እና የብልጽግና አየር እጅግ ያስፈልጋታል። ከዚህም ባሻገር ልማት እንጅ ሁከት የሚፈልግ ህዝብ አይደለም። ከአማራ ህዝብ ጋር መሰረታዊ አብሮ የሚሄድ ባህርይ አላቸው። አብሮ የሚሄድ እንጅ የሚቃረን ግብ የላቸውም። ሁለቱም ህዝቦች መኖር ይፈልጋሉ። የኢትዮጵያ መቀጠል እጅግ እጅግ አስፈላጊ የአፍሪካ ቀንድ የህልውና ጉዳይ ነው። ኢትዮጵያ የአፍሪክ ቀንድ ልብ ነች። የእርሷ የልብ ምት ቆመ ማለት ሁሉ ጠፋ ማለት ነው። ወያኔዎች እና ሸሪኮቻቸው የሚያወሩ በተቃርኖ ነው።
--- ሌላው የአማራ እና የኤርትራ ጥምረት ለማንም ስጋት አይደለም። የሰላም ምድር መፍጠር ለሁሉም ህዝብ ጥቅም ነው። የሁከት ምድር ጥፋት ነው። ወያኔ በሁከት ሲኖር ለትግራይ ህዝብ ያፈራው በመጨረሻ ጥፋት ሆነ፥ ኦነግም ቢሆን ለኦሮሞ ህዝብ ያተረፈው ነገር የለም - ብጥብጥ፤ ግድያ፤ ከሌሎች ህዝብ እንድነጠል ማድረግ ነው።
--- ዳሩ ግን ኦነግ እና ወያኔ በኦሮሞ እና ትግራይ ህዝብ ውስጥ ስለተደበቁ የአማራ ኤርትራ ህብረት የእነርሱ የህልውና ስጋት ይመስላቸዋል። 40 አመታት አዩት- ሞከሩት ምንም ጠብ ያለ ነገር የለም።
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
የአማራ እና ኤርትራ ጥምረት ባይኖር ዛሬ ወያኔ መቀሌ ዙርያ ተወስና ባላየናት ነበር። ለወያኔ ውርደት እና ውድቀት ምክንያት የእነዚህ ህዝቦች ጥምረት የአንበሳውን ድርሻ ይይዛል። ሆኖም ግን ወያኔ ለአስርት አመታት ከፍተኛ ስር የሰደደ የምዕራባዊያን ትሥስር ያላት በመሆኗ እና ለከፉ ቀን ይሆናት ዘንድ የጎሳ ፓለቲከኞች በአገሪቱ በመቀፍቀፏ እና በመንግስት መዋቅር በማስረጿ አሁን ከመቃብር በላይ እየተነፈሰች ነው። የወያኔ ወዳጆች ይህን ሀቅ ስለተረዱ ነበር የአማራ ፋኖ፤ሚሊሻ፤ልዩ ሃይል እና የኤርትራ ሰራዊት ይውጣ እያሉ ነጋጠባ የጮኹት። ይህን ጩኸት ተከትሎ እነኝህ ሃይሎች ሲወጡ ወያኔ ጉልበት አገኘሁ ብላ ወረረች - ዳግመኛ ታሽታ ተመለሰች። ወያኔን ሊያጠፋት የሚችለው የአማራ እና ኤርትራ ጥምረት ነው።
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
We Eritreans are a nation, therefore we don't form alliances with ethnic groups or regions, but countries. The statement that reads "የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት" is not only a logical fallacy, but flawed and dishonest. Such statements are often made by the people who introduced the ethnic apartheid system, otherwise known as "Ethnic federalism", or "ethnic balkanization", in Ethiopia. Thank God they are NoMore!
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
I, Horus, don't mince words. I go straight to the essence. Alliance, cooperation, collaboration, etc ... no difference!Fiyameta wrote: ↑19 Sep 2022, 12:03We Eritreans are a nation, therefore we don't form alliances with ethnic groups or regions, but countries. The statement that reads "የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት" is not only a logical fallacy, but flawed and dishonest. Such statements are often made by the people who introduced the ethnic apartheid system, otherwise known as "Ethnic federalism", or "ethnic balkanization", in Ethiopia. Thank God they are NoMore!
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
This is called political correctness. The truth on the ground and what the objective reality manifesting itself is different than political correctness. TPLF, for instance, is not a government but it is operating with much bigger alliances and neither of these alliances are professing they working hand in hand. It is not even a choice for Eritrea it is a MUST to work with Amhara.
Fiyameta wrote: ↑19 Sep 2022, 12:03We Eritreans are a nation, therefore we don't form alliances with ethnic groups or regions, but countries. The statement that reads "የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት" is not only a logical fallacy, but flawed and dishonest. Such statements are often made by the people who introduced the ethnic apartheid system, otherwise known as "Ethnic federalism", or "ethnic balkanization", in Ethiopia. Thank God they are NoMore!
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
What I said was, we Eritreans see Ethiopia as one indivisible whole country, not just individual ethnic groups or regions, because we believe "the whole is greater than the sum of the parts."Horus wrote: ↑19 Sep 2022, 14:22I, Horus, don't mince words. I go straight to the essence. Alliance, cooperation, collaboration, etc ... no difference!Fiyameta wrote: ↑19 Sep 2022, 12:03We Eritreans are a nation, therefore we don't form alliances with ethnic groups or regions, but countries. The statement that reads "የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት" is not only a logical fallacy, but flawed and dishonest. Such statements are often made by the people who introduced the ethnic apartheid system, otherwise known as "Ethnic federalism", or "ethnic balkanization", in Ethiopia. Thank God they are NoMore!
Countries make alliances with other countries, and the Amhara are part of the country we have made an alliance with.
For example, when we Eritreans signed a peace agreement on July 9, 2018 with Ethiopia, formally ending the so-called border conflict between both countries, and restoring full diplomatic relations, we signed the agreement with a full knowledge that we were making peace with ALL Ethiopian citizens from every ethnic group and region, including the people and region of Tigray.
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
Fiyameta,
The diplomatic language aside, I stated that "From here on until the end of time, the Ethiopian political dynamics will be driven not by the good will of this or that ethnic group in power, but by the balance of power between and among the various ethnic groups. It is simply a given and elementary truism that an orderly, organized and strong Amara is a necessity for an Ethiopian order as air is a necessity for life." Do you agree or disagree with my assertion?
You should listen the very influential Eritrean official stating that Eritrea is willing to train assist Amara forces! Listen to the video at the start of the thread!
The diplomatic language aside, I stated that "From here on until the end of time, the Ethiopian political dynamics will be driven not by the good will of this or that ethnic group in power, but by the balance of power between and among the various ethnic groups. It is simply a given and elementary truism that an orderly, organized and strong Amara is a necessity for an Ethiopian order as air is a necessity for life." Do you agree or disagree with my assertion?
You should listen the very influential Eritrean official stating that Eritrea is willing to train assist Amara forces! Listen to the video at the start of the thread!
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
First of all, our Eritrean general Sebhat Efrem has not given any recent interview, let alone say "Eritrean schools are providing Amharic language courses," which sounds like a silly TPLF propaganda bereft of basic logic.Horus wrote: ↑19 Sep 2022, 15:13Fiyameta,
The diplomatic language aside, I stated that "From here on until the end of time, the Ethiopian political dynamics will be driven not by the good will of this or that ethnic group in power, but by the balance of power between and among the various ethnic groups. It is simply a given and elementary truism that an orderly, organized and strong Amara is a necessity for an Ethiopian order as air is a necessity for life." Do you agree or disagree with my assertion?
You should listen the very influential Eritrean official stating that Eritrea is willing to train assist Amara forces! Listen to the video at the start of the thread!
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
ባንዳው ወያኔ
You are either Eritrean nor Amara so what the F* are you doing discussing other people’s issue? ውርጋጥ የማስፈራሪያ ፊት።
You are either Eritrean nor Amara so what the F* are you doing discussing other people’s issue? ውርጋጥ የማስፈራሪያ ፊት።
Selam/ wrote: ↑18 Sep 2022, 23:03I think, Horus is highlighting the strategic importance of Eritrea & Amhara to defeat Woyanes given their geographic location & direct exposure to TPLF ‘s threats. That doesn’t undermine the current military coalition between ENDF & Eritrean army.
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
ወጨፎ ወያኔ - Can you write it again in Amharic? I don’t understand gibberish.
euroland wrote: ↑19 Sep 2022, 18:05ባንዳው ወያኔ
You are either Eritrean nor Amara so what the F* are you doing discussing other people’s issue? ውርጋጥ የማስፈራሪያ ፊት።
Selam/ wrote: ↑18 Sep 2022, 23:03I think, Horus is highlighting the strategic importance of Eritrea & Amhara to defeat Woyanes given their geographic location & direct exposure to TPLF ‘s threats. That doesn’t undermine the current military coalition between ENDF & Eritrean army.
Re: የኤርትራና አማራ ጥምረት!
Horus - Why would you expect an Eritrean to endorse your opinion on Ethiopia’s internal matters? It’s like asking me how the balance of power among Afar, Blien, Hidareb, Kunama, Nara, Rashaida, Saho, Tigre and Tigrinya should be maintained for a long term stability of Eritrea. It’s none of my business.
Horus wrote: ↑19 Sep 2022, 15:13Fiyameta,
The diplomatic language aside, I stated that "From here on until the end of time, the Ethiopian political dynamics will be driven not by the good will of this or that ethnic group in power, but by the balance of power between and among the various ethnic groups. It is simply a given and elementary truism that an orderly, organized and strong Amara is a necessity for an Ethiopian order as air is a necessity for life." Do you agree or disagree with my assertion?
You should listen the very influential Eritrean official stating that Eritrea is willing to train assist Amara forces! Listen to the video at the start of the thread!