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Oromuma በጣም አሩን አራ - ለአማራ የተመኙትን እሳት የሚጎርሱበት ወቅት እሩቅ አይሆንም

Post by Misraq » 11 Apr 2022, 21:26

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Agamumu once again got a jackpot thanks to the shear stupidity of Oromuma. it looks like agamuma will be off-hook from fano cross-hair when fano focuses on the stupid oromuma. But, agamuma will not escape either. in the end, fano will bring down both oromuma and agamuma


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Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 11 Apr 2022, 21:53

የመጨረሻው መጨረሻ! ሃገር ምራ ቢባል ሁሉም የዛለ ትከሻችን ላይ ፊጥ ማለት አማረው። ብሄረተኝነት አያዛልቀንም ሲባል ብሄር የለንም፥ ለመጣው ሁሉ መረማመጃ እንሆናለን የተባለ የመሰለው ደናቁርት ሁሉ ልኩን ያገኛል!!

ከዛኛው ፍጅት ያልተማረው ኦህዴድ በኦነግ ስም ንጹህ ገበሬን ይገድላል ፥ የገበሬ ማሳ ጾም ያድራል ፥ሃገር ይራባል፥ በባልዲ ሰላጣ ስለመትከል ያስተምራል። በለኮሰው እሳት ሲለበለብ ፥ ሊገድል አስቦ ሄዶ ቀንዱን ሲመታ፣ ከሳሽ ሆኖ ብቅ ይላል፣፥

ዛሬ ከሶማሌው፥ ከ ኣፋሩ፣ ከሲዳማው፣ ከጌዲዮው ፣ ከቤንሻንጉል ፥ ከኣማራው፣ ከሁሉም ብሄሮች ላይ መሬታቸውን ብቻ ሳይሆን ማንነታቸውን ለመንጠቅ የሚክለፈለፈው ሃይል፥ ሃገር ላይ ለሚመጣው አልቂት ሁሉ ተጠያቂ ነው።

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Post by Union » 12 Apr 2022, 01:43

ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ ለዘመናት በአመድ ተሸፍፍነው የተቀመጡ ሴጣኖች ናቸው። እራሳቸው ካልተቀጠቀጠ አይጠፍም። አንድኛው ተቀጥቅጧል። ሌላኛው ጅሉ ይቀራል። የሱም አናቱ በቅርቡ እንደ ጉድ ይቀጠቀጣል። ሰባት ግዜ ጮሆ ይወጣል። እነ እምነተቢስ ሆረስም ጭራቸውን ያማስላሉ እንደለመድት

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Post by Wedi » 12 Apr 2022, 05:08

Once frog Meles Zenawi famously said "Giving power for Oromo to lead a BIG country like Ethiopia is like giving glass for a child to play with it"
The end result is breaking the glass.

This is exactly what is happening in Ethiopia right now under the Galla Leaders!!

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Post by Right » 12 Apr 2022, 10:04

Yes, ultimately they will be destroyed by the system they are cheering now.

By the way, I am totally shocked by Merara Gudina’s OFC press release yesterday. The guy has been in politics for a long time, he is a PHD holder and University professor - but look how low he can go to promote ethnic conflict in Ethiopia. Jawar too is a university graduate in political science and they are working hard to harm the people they claimed to represent. So far, Jawar is lucky to be alive.
Ethnic or group politics will spare no one. It will swallow them one by one. Merara should have known better. Just like that bullet that found a way to land at Seyoum Mesfin’s forehead, other bullets will find these monsters one by one. That is the nature of ethnic politics.

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Post by Ethoash » 12 Apr 2022, 10:19

Right wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 10:04
Yes, ultimately they will be destroyed by the system they are cheering now.

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Ethnic or group politics will spare no one. It will swallow them one by one. Merara should have known better. Just like that bullet that found a way to land at Seyoum Mesfin’s forehead, other bullets will find these monsters one by one. That is the nature of ethnic politics.
አንድ ጥሬ አንድ ብስል አንተ ነህ። ምነው ትናንትና አንዱን ስትመክረው አነበረም አንት እናቴን ስት ስደብ እኔ ደግሞ ያንተን እናት ለመስደብ ፍቃድ ስጥተህኛል ስትለው አነበረም ወይ።

አንተ እነጁሀርን እነመራራን ስትገድል ኦሮሞ እጁን አጣምሮ ይቀመጣል ወይ። እንደውም ኦሮሞ ታጋሽ መሆኑን አመስግን አጫሉን አማሮች ሲገድሉ የዛን ግዜ አገር ይረበሽ ነበር እድሜ ለኦሮሞ ትግስት።

አሁንም ኦሮሞ አማራ ድንበር ጋ አልመጣም አትድረሱባቸው አይደርሱባቹሁም። እናንተ አማሮች አወቅን የምትሉ እውነት ቢኖራቹሁ የአማራ አጥባቂንም እኩል ተወነጀሉ ነበር ። ግን አንዱን ብቻ ለይቶ ወሬ ማወራት የትም አያደርስንም

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Post by Right » 12 Apr 2022, 11:02

Re read it again.
Ask Merara Gudina …he will tell you how he lost his comrades in the past to the kind of politics he is promoting today.
My message is consistent to the advise I gave to someone yesterday who was calling somebody’s mother.

Again: Ethnic politics or Group politics will spare no one. Seyoum Mesfin & Abay Tse are a testament to that. The same fate will await for Abiye, Merara, Jawar etc.
Wake up and work hard to promote individual right and freedom for each and every citizen of Ethiopia without label.

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Post by Ethoash » 12 Apr 2022, 11:11

Right wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 11:02
Wake up and work hard to promote individual right and freedom for each and every citizen of Ethiopia without label.

okay what language does this individual speak. can u tell me, or what language does every citizen of Ethiopia .. can u tell me.. if someone goes to oromia and live for 150 years what language should he speak . imagine we r talking about 81 language....

why not u keep to your region and oromo will keep to their region and we keep peace.. if u go to oromia and tell them what language your so call individual speak then you are asking for trouble

in USA if u go to NY WHAT language should u speak ... should u speak Amharic because u have individual right pls explain to me how language right work in your so call individual system

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Post by Right » 12 Apr 2022, 12:08

OK, it seems you recognized that no spinning around the message I am trying to send.

Unless you attached it to an egoic mind as a label to identify with a certain group language should not be a source of problem.
There is a UN declaration or charter of human right on language that addresses the issue.
Believe me unless a certain group intend to use it for evil purposes (like the colonizers) language is a non issue.
Language has one and only one purpose, it is a means to communicate and survive, it shouldn’t be taken as a tool to score a political point.

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Post by Ethoash » 12 Apr 2022, 12:11

Right wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 12:08
OK, it seems you recognized that no spinning around the message I am trying to send.

Unless you attached it to an egoic mind as a label to identify with a certain group language should not be a source of problem.
There is a UN declaration or charter of human right on language that addresses the issue.
Believe me unless a certain group intend to use it for evil purposes (like the colonizers) language is a non issue.
Language has one and only one purpose, it is a means to communicate and survive, it shouldn’t be taken as a tool to score a political point.
መቶ በመቶ እደግፍሀለሁ እንግዲያውስ ቋንቋ ለመግባቢያ ብቻ ከሆነ ታድያ ምን ችግር አለብን አፋን ኦሮምና የናሽናል ቋንቋ ቢሆን አይከፋህም ማለት ነው።


የቋንቋውን ችግር መፍቴ ሳታደርግ ምንም መንቀሳቍስ አይቻልም። እንደኔ ሁሉም ኢትዬዽያ ሁለት ቋንቋ ቢችል ጥሩ ነው። ለምሳሌ አማራ ኦሮምኛ ቢለምዱ ። የተቀሩት ደግሞ ከአማርኛ ጋራ የራሳቸውን ቋንቋ ቢችሉ ጥሩ ነው። ለምሳሌ ትግሬዎች ትግሪኛ ና አማርኛ ፣ ሱማሌና አማርኛ። ወዘተ።
አማሮች ተማሪዎች ዩኒቨሪስቲ ጋምቤላ ከሄዱ የጋምቤላ ቋንቋ ለምደው ቢመጡ ለዚህም በፈተና ተፈትነው ማርክ ያለው ትምህርት ቢስጥ ሁላችንንም ያግባባናል እንጂ ዝም ብሎ ብቻ አንድ እንሆን ማለት አበቃም ። እስቲ ምን ትላለህ።

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Post by Misraq » 12 Apr 2022, 13:55

One thing for sure is that both the stupid Oromuma and the greedy Agamuma have created and are in the process of converting a once peacefully society into a monstrous one.

With the provocativion, eviction and persecution we witness now, I can not rule out the fact that next year these time FANO will swell to a 2 million strong. And the coward ENDF will have no place to hide together with the selfie loving TDF and dreadlocked prostitutes that goes by the name of ONeg Shene a.k.a OLF.

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Post by Sadacha Macca » 12 Apr 2022, 14:59

Miss Rock, who is targeting Amhara's? Oromo's, who are far too busy fighting for their own survival against the Abiy regime?
By the way, at least be clear, your war is with Oromo's as a nation, not ''Oromummaa,'' which means the Oromo identity, culture, language, etc.
At least, be a man and say it with your chest, do not be a coward and try to hide it. Or, you can hide it, and people can easily still read between the lines and see what you're saying.
By the way, trust me when I say this, no amount of threats will stop Oromo's from marching towards their goal of self rule, only fools think that our goal was to put one of our traitorous sons in power, to enrichen and benefit himself. No, the goal is to enable the Oromo to rule their lands, elect their leaders and yes, have our own army as we had before Ethiopia existed and was formed as a result of Europeans arming one group of Africans against the other groups of Africans!
Oromo's do not seek others property, but we won't compromise on ours. We either compromise on having autonomous states within a loosely federated Ethiopia, or go our separate ways-the old emiye Ethiopia is gone bro, you gotta get over it.

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Post by Right » 12 Apr 2022, 16:14

Ethioash,
You asked a question about those who lived in area labeled Oromo not speaking the local language. And now you spin it around and talk about the whole nation.
You are swimming in a vicious circle. I know your problem is with Amharic. Because you mistakenly identify the group labeled Amahara with the Amharic language. And speaking Amharic will make you less a person than the identified group. The Amharic language doesn’t belong to the Amaharas but it belongs to the Horn of Africa. It is a blend of Geez, Tigrigna, Guraginga, oromogna etc. Prof Haile Larebo has written extensively on the subject. He is a distinguished scholar.
Back to my point, as I said, language’s main purpose is communication and survival. It depends on how it has evolved and how rich in its grammatical font is. You can’t borrow it but it has to develop on its own with the help of society.
Jawar suggested English to be an official language of Ethiopia. Because him too has the problem like many for the same reason that I specified above.
Again language should not be a concern. It will be resolved under the individual right context by true experts.
I know I am wasting my time to convince you about the value of human rights.

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Post by Union » 12 Apr 2022, 16:43

Sad,
All ethincs live on the land you call yours so you don't own it for yourself, rather all Ethiopians own it. It is impossible for you to create the muslim oromo country you are wishing. No ethincs will give you it for free because the land is their too. They sacrificed a lot before oromo showed up as well. So either you live peacefully with all Ethiopians accepting Ethiopians own the land together or be ready to lose it all. Every ethinc is ready for that
Sadacha Macca wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 14:59
Miss Rock, who is targeting Amhara's? Oromo's, who are far too busy fighting for their own survival against the Abiy regime?
By the way, at least be clear, your war is with Oromo's as a nation, not ''Oromummaa,'' which means the Oromo identity, culture, language, etc.
At least, be a man and say it with your chest, do not be a coward and try to hide it. Or, you can hide it, and people can easily still read between the lines and see what you're saying.
By the way, trust me when I say this, no amount of threats will stop Oromo's from marching towards their goal of self rule, only fools think that our goal was to put one of our traitorous sons in power, to enrichen and benefit himself. No, the goal is to enable the Oromo to rule their lands, elect their leaders and yes, have our own army as we had before Ethiopia existed and was formed as a result of Europeans arming one group of Africans against the other groups of Africans!
Oromo's do not seek others property, but we won't compromise on ours. We either compromise on having autonomous states within a loosely federated Ethiopia, or go our separate ways-the old emiye Ethiopia is gone bro, you gotta get over it.

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Re: Oromuma በጣም አሩን አራ - ለአማራ የተመኙትን እሳት የሚጎርሱበት ወቅት እሩቅ አይሆንም

Post by Sadacha Macca » 12 Apr 2022, 17:05

union wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 16:43
Sad,
All ethincs live on the land you call yours so you don't own it for yourself, rather all Ethiopians own it. It is impossible for you to create the muslim oromo country you are wishing. No ethincs will give you it for free because the land is their too. They sacrificed a lot before oromo showed up as well. So either you live peacefully with all Ethiopians accepting Ethiopians own the land together or be ready to lose it all. Every ethinc is ready for that
Sadacha Macca wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 14:59
Miss Rock, who is targeting Amhara's? Oromo's, who are far too busy fighting for their own survival against the Abiy regime?
By the way, at least be clear, your war is with Oromo's as a nation, not ''Oromummaa,'' which means the Oromo identity, culture, language, etc.
At least, be a man and say it with your chest, do not be a coward and try to hide it. Or, you can hide it, and people can easily still read between the lines and see what you're saying.
By the way, trust me when I say this, no amount of threats will stop Oromo's from marching towards their goal of self rule, only fools think that our goal was to put one of our traitorous sons in power, to enrichen and benefit himself. No, the goal is to enable the Oromo to rule their lands, elect their leaders and yes, have our own army as we had before Ethiopia existed and was formed as a result of Europeans arming one group of Africans against the other groups of Africans!
Oromo's do not seek others property, but we won't compromise on ours. We either compromise on having autonomous states within a loosely federated Ethiopia, or go our separate ways-the old emiye Ethiopia is gone bro, you gotta get over it.
Try another original lie, the ''Muslim Oromo'' state you guys lie of, is, and has never been a goal of ours. Hence the reason why OLF/OLA is secular and has Oromo's from all religions side by side as brothers and sisters.
Oromia's primary owners, are the ones whom make up the majority and whom the land is named after: Oromo's, after that, everyone else is more than welcome, the same for amhara, the majority are amhara, hence the reason why it's named after them, and they are the primary owners of their land.
To deny these facts, is like saying 2 plus 2 is 5. It's silly to argue otherwise.

You speak for yourself, not for ''other ethnics,'' so say that, you would fight us [and lose, terribly], if we wanted to exercise our rights to self determination, which includes, complete independence if we wish for that.

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Re: Oromuma በጣም አሩን አራ - ለአማራ የተመኙትን እሳት የሚጎርሱበት ወቅት እሩቅ አይሆንም

Post by Abere » 12 Apr 2022, 17:12

Come on man, cut this c@p out

Sadacha Macca wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 17:05
if we wanted to exercise our rights to self determination, which includes, complete independence if we wish for that.

Union

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Post by Union » 12 Apr 2022, 17:13

You don't have a land of your own to be asking for independent Muslim oromo country. The land belongs to all of us and we live on it. No ethinc owns any land in Ethiopia. The moment one wants to create there will be flood of armies flying to killel oromo from all directions

Wise oromos know the land belongs to all Ethiopians and seek for peaceful alternative
Sadacha Macca wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 17:05
union wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 16:43
Sad,
All ethincs live on the land you call yours so you don't own it for yourself, rather all Ethiopians own it. It is impossible for you to create the muslim oromo country you are wishing. No ethincs will give you it for free because the land is their too. They sacrificed a lot before oromo showed up as well. So either you live peacefully with all Ethiopians accepting Ethiopians own the land together or be ready to lose it all. Every ethinc is ready for that
Sadacha Macca wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 14:59
Miss Rock, who is targeting Amhara's? Oromo's, who are far too busy fighting for their own survival against the Abiy regime?
By the way, at least be clear, your war is with Oromo's as a nation, not ''Oromummaa,'' which means the Oromo identity, culture, language, etc.
At least, be a man and say it with your chest, do not be a coward and try to hide it. Or, you can hide it, and people can easily still read between the lines and see what you're saying.
By the way, trust me when I say this, no amount of threats will stop Oromo's from marching towards their goal of self rule, only fools think that our goal was to put one of our traitorous sons in power, to enrichen and benefit himself. No, the goal is to enable the Oromo to rule their lands, elect their leaders and yes, have our own army as we had before Ethiopia existed and was formed as a result of Europeans arming one group of Africans against the other groups of Africans!
Oromo's do not seek others property, but we won't compromise on ours. We either compromise on having autonomous states within a loosely federated Ethiopia, or go our separate ways-the old emiye Ethiopia is gone bro, you gotta get over it.
Try another original lie, the ''Muslim Oromo'' state you guys lie of, is, and has never been a goal of ours. Hence the reason why OLF/OLA is secular and has Oromo's from all religions side by side as brothers and sisters.
Oromia's primary owners, are the ones whom make up the majority and whom the land is named after: Oromo's, after that, everyone else is more than welcome, the same for amhara, the majority are amhara, hence the reason why it's named after them, and they are the primary owners of their land.
To deny these facts, is like saying 2 plus 2 is 5. It's silly to argue otherwise.

You speak for yourself, not for ''other ethnics,'' so say that, you would fight us [and lose, terribly], if we wanted to exercise our rights to self determination, which includes, complete independence if we wish for that.

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Post by Sadacha Macca » 12 Apr 2022, 17:54

union wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 17:13
You don't have a land of your own to be asking for independent Muslim oromo country. The land belongs to all of us and we live on it. No ethinc owns any land in Ethiopia. The moment one wants to create there will be flood of armies flying to killel oromo from all directions

Wise oromos know the land belongs to all Ethiopians and seek for peaceful alternative
Sadacha Macca wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 17:05
union wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 16:43
Sad,
All ethincs live on the land you call yours so you don't own it for yourself, rather all Ethiopians own it. It is impossible for you to create the muslim oromo country you are wishing. No ethincs will give you it for free because the land is their too. They sacrificed a lot before oromo showed up as well. So either you live peacefully with all Ethiopians accepting Ethiopians own the land together or be ready to lose it all. Every ethinc is ready for that
Sadacha Macca wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 14:59
Miss Rock, who is targeting Amhara's? Oromo's, who are far too busy fighting for their own survival against the Abiy regime?
By the way, at least be clear, your war is with Oromo's as a nation, not ''Oromummaa,'' which means the Oromo identity, culture, language, etc.
At least, be a man and say it with your chest, do not be a coward and try to hide it. Or, you can hide it, and people can easily still read between the lines and see what you're saying.
By the way, trust me when I say this, no amount of threats will stop Oromo's from marching towards their goal of self rule, only fools think that our goal was to put one of our traitorous sons in power, to enrichen and benefit himself. No, the goal is to enable the Oromo to rule their lands, elect their leaders and yes, have our own army as we had before Ethiopia existed and was formed as a result of Europeans arming one group of Africans against the other groups of Africans!
Oromo's do not seek others property, but we won't compromise on ours. We either compromise on having autonomous states within a loosely federated Ethiopia, or go our separate ways-the old emiye Ethiopia is gone bro, you gotta get over it.
Try another original lie, the ''Muslim Oromo'' state you guys lie of, is, and has never been a goal of ours. Hence the reason why OLF/OLA is secular and has Oromo's from all religions side by side as brothers and sisters.
Oromia's primary owners, are the ones whom make up the majority and whom the land is named after: Oromo's, after that, everyone else is more than welcome, the same for amhara, the majority are amhara, hence the reason why it's named after them, and they are the primary owners of their land.
To deny these facts, is like saying 2 plus 2 is 5. It's silly to argue otherwise.

You speak for yourself, not for ''other ethnics,'' so say that, you would fight us [and lose, terribly], if we wanted to exercise our rights to self determination, which includes, complete independence if we wish for that.


Abere,
I didn't say that, I want independence for Oromo's, but I am saying, that's out right collectively if we give up on Ethiopia ever becoming a decent place for Oromo's. Some Oromo have given up, and they have the right to, and have a reason to. Others, choose, perhaps foolishly, or naively, not to. Both could be right, but both sides have the right to have their own opinion. I am even seeing a lot of Amhara's calling for independence too, while many others would not call for that, as of yet-they too, have their rights to their opinions. Ethiopians here need to learn how to agree or disagree respectfully, without resorting to insults and curse words just because someone else has a different opinion or point of view- eshi?


Union,
Oromia primarily belongs to Oromo's, just like Amhara state primarily belongs to Amhara, Tigray to Tigrayans and etc. This is the plain truth, whether you can admit it or not. You try to go to Gondar and tell them this land isn't Amhara land, and see what they tell you, or to Mekelle and say this ain't Tigrayan, or to Semera/Samara and say this ain't Afar and so on.

Union

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Post by Union » 12 Apr 2022, 20:07

That is where you go wrong. Tplf tried to go on thier own but they could not. And they will not be able to. They will have to defeat all Ethiopians of today, every ethinc, and all together. And note this is not the era of derg. The Amara and all other ethincs including the common tigreans actually know and believe every piece of land in Ethiopia belongs to them. Actually even Shabia apears to believe in that as well knowing the bads that will follow if anything historically unfair occurance were to happen in Ethiopia, it will surely repeat itself in Eritrea. Smart. Ethiopians know their history well. Anyone or new comer who wants to take their ancesstral lands maybe able to do so but over their dead body!!! They know their ancesters died to preserve it. Only tplf told you the land is only yours and the others don't have equal share, only in tplfs and shene world. And I don't advice you to do it the hard way, again, this is not the time of derg.

Sadacha Macca wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 17:54
union wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 17:13
You don't have a land of your own to be asking for independent Muslim oromo country. The land belongs to all of us and we live on it. No ethinc owns any land in Ethiopia. The moment one wants to create there will be flood of armies flying to killel oromo from all directions

Wise oromos know the land belongs to all Ethiopians and seek for peaceful alternative
Sadacha Macca wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 17:05
union wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 16:43
Sad,
All ethincs live on the land you call yours so you don't own it for yourself, rather all Ethiopians own it. It is impossible for you to create the muslim oromo country you are wishing. No ethincs will give you it for free because the land is their too. They sacrificed a lot before oromo showed up as well. So either you live peacefully with all Ethiopians accepting Ethiopians own the land together or be ready to lose it all. Every ethinc is ready for that
Sadacha Macca wrote:
12 Apr 2022, 14:59
Miss Rock, who is targeting Amhara's? Oromo's, who are far too busy fighting for their own survival against the Abiy regime?
By the way, at least be clear, your war is with Oromo's as a nation, not ''Oromummaa,'' which means the Oromo identity, culture, language, etc.
At least, be a man and say it with your chest, do not be a coward and try to hide it. Or, you can hide it, and people can easily still read between the lines and see what you're saying.
By the way, trust me when I say this, no amount of threats will stop Oromo's from marching towards their goal of self rule, only fools think that our goal was to put one of our traitorous sons in power, to enrichen and benefit himself. No, the goal is to enable the Oromo to rule their lands, elect their leaders and yes, have our own army as we had before Ethiopia existed and was formed as a result of Europeans arming one group of Africans against the other groups of Africans!
Oromo's do not seek others property, but we won't compromise on ours. We either compromise on having autonomous states within a loosely federated Ethiopia, or go our separate ways-the old emiye Ethiopia is gone bro, you gotta get over it.
Try another original lie, the ''Muslim Oromo'' state you guys lie of, is, and has never been a goal of ours. Hence the reason why OLF/OLA is secular and has Oromo's from all religions side by side as brothers and sisters.
Oromia's primary owners, are the ones whom make up the majority and whom the land is named after: Oromo's, after that, everyone else is more than welcome, the same for amhara, the majority are amhara, hence the reason why it's named after them, and they are the primary owners of their land.
To deny these facts, is like saying 2 plus 2 is 5. It's silly to argue otherwise.

You speak for yourself, not for ''other ethnics,'' so say that, you would fight us [and lose, terribly], if we wanted to exercise our rights to self determination, which includes, complete independence if we wish for that.


Abere,
I didn't say that, I want independence for Oromo's, but I am saying, that's out right collectively if we give up on Ethiopia ever becoming a decent place for Oromo's. Some Oromo have given up, and they have the right to, and have a reason to. Others, choose, perhaps foolishly, or naively, not to. Both could be right, but both sides have the right to have their own opinion. I am even seeing a lot of Amhara's calling for independence too, while many others would not call for that, as of yet-they too, have their rights to their opinions. Ethiopians here need to learn how to agree or disagree respectfully, without resorting to insults and curse words just because someone else has a different opinion or point of view- eshi?


Union,
Oromia primarily belongs to Oromo's, just like Amhara state primarily belongs to Amhara, Tigray to Tigrayans and etc. This is the plain truth, whether you can admit it or not. You try to go to Gondar and tell them this land isn't Amhara land, and see what they tell you, or to Mekelle and say this ain't Tigrayan, or to Semera/Samara and say this ain't Afar and so on.
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