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OLA & TPLF

Post by Zmeselo » 05 Nov 2021, 18:31

:lol:








Both orgs, are like dumb & dumber. :lol:


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Re: OLA & TPLF

Post by Zmeselo » 05 Nov 2021, 20:14


Fake news, keeps on faking.

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Re: OLA & TPLF

Post by Zmeselo » 05 Nov 2021, 20:24

"Ethio govt in exile." :lol:












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Re: OLA & TPLF

Post by Sadacha Macca » 05 Nov 2021, 20:27

As the objective Oromo here, I'd like to comment, kind sir;

While I am wary and very suspicious, to say the least, about allying with the TPLF/Tigrayans, let's be honest, alliances change in politics based on interests. Abiy and his party once upon a time, were armed, trained, and guided by the TPLF, to keep OLF and Oromo's marginalized and subjugated. They were the TPLF's traitors in Oromia, and as soon as Qeerroo and the Oromo nation rose in unison, the OPDO exploited that movement to put themselves where TPLF was/is. Both looted the country blind together and kept its people, the Oromo in particular, subjugated, with the tigrayan elites being at the top of the hierarchy, of course. Both are criminals, Abiy's OPDO, the TPLF, ANDM, all of the EPRDF=have blood on their hands and loot in their accounts, none are innocent. So, yes, TPLF deserves what they got, and even more perhaps, but the OPDO ain't any better.
Yet, this is who the EPLF allied with, recently, to counter a common foe: the tplf. adelem ende? Once again, I ain't mad at that, it's the nature of the game, it is what it is. Shrewd politics, betrayals, war, etc, this is what our region is known as, it is what it is!


Yesterday's allies can easily be tomorrow's foes. For example, the Eritrean armed forces are allies with Amhara's today, but if Amhara elites were to get power and decide to ''reclaim their lost sea ports,'' you'd see Eritreans allying with Oromo's and others.
Or, how TPLF and EPLF were allies, despite their disagreements and ideological differences, because they had a foe in common: the Derg.
Then, the EPLF helped the TPLF solidify its position as rulers of Ethiopia, by keeping the Oromo's and others, subjugated and marginalized. It wasn't personal, I am sure, the EPLF/Eritreans didn't have a grudge or hatred for us Oromo's, but it was in their best interests that their allies, the TPLF, gained power, and managed the transition.
Do I completely blame the EPLF? Of course not! They did what was best for them and Eritrea, even if it were to the detriment of others, and I blame mostly the OLF's leadership for not living up to its potential and making a strong 100,000 or more, Oromo Military force. Had the OLF been as strong as it could have been, no one in the Horn would've been able to mess around with the Oromo's, this is a fact. Oromo's are among the toughest fighters in the Horn, no doubting that.

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Re: OLA & TPLF

Post by eritrea » 05 Nov 2021, 20:44

Sadacha Macca wrote:
05 Nov 2021, 20:27
As the objective Oromo here, I'd like to comment, kind sir;

While I am wary and very suspicious, to say the least, about allying with the TPLF/Tigrayans, let's be honest, alliances change in politics based on interests. Abiy and his party once upon a time, were armed, trained, and guided by the TPLF, to keep OLF and Oromo's marginalized and subjugated. They were the TPLF's traitors in Oromia, and as soon as Qeerroo and the Oromo nation rose in unison, the OPDO exploited that movement to put themselves where TPLF was/is. Both looted the country blind together and kept its people, the Oromo in particular, subjugated, with the tigrayan elites being at the top of the hierarchy, of course. Both are criminals, Abiy's OPDO, the TPLF, ANDM, all of the EPRDF=have blood on their hands and loot in their accounts, none are innocent. So, yes, TPLF deserves what they got, and even more perhaps, but the OPDO ain't any better.
Yet, this is who the EPLF allied with, recently, to counter a common foe: the tplf. adelem ende? Once again, I ain't mad at that, it's the nature of the game, it is what it is. Shrewd politics, betrayals, war, etc, this is what our region is known as, it is what it is!


Yesterday's allies can easily be tomorrow's foes. For example, the Eritrean armed forces are allies with Amhara's today, but if Amhara elites were to get power and decide to ''reclaim their lost sea ports,'' you'd see Eritreans allying with Oromo's and others.
Or, how TPLF and EPLF were allies, despite their disagreements and ideological differences, because they had a foe in common: the Derg.
Then, the EPLF helped the TPLF solidify its position as rulers of Ethiopia, by keeping the Oromo's and others, subjugated and marginalized. It wasn't personal, I am sure, the EPLF/Eritreans didn't have a grudge or hatred for us Oromo's, but it was in their best interests that their allies, the TPLF, gained power, and managed the transition.
Do I completely blame the EPLF? Of course not! They did what was best for them and Eritrea, even if it were to the detriment of others, and I blame mostly the OLF's leadership for not living up to its potential and making a strong 100,000 or more, Oromo Military force. Had the OLF been as strong as it could have been, no one in the Horn would've been able to mess around with the Oromo's, this is a fact. Oromo's are among the toughest fighters in the Horn, no doubting that.
What are you trying to say?

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Re: OLA & TPLF

Post by Sadacha Macca » 05 Nov 2021, 21:09

eritrea wrote:
05 Nov 2021, 20:44
Sadacha Macca wrote:
05 Nov 2021, 20:27
As the objective Oromo here, I'd like to comment, kind sir;

While I am wary and very suspicious, to say the least, about allying with the TPLF/Tigrayans, let's be honest, alliances change in politics based on interests. Abiy and his party once upon a time, were armed, trained, and guided by the TPLF, to keep OLF and Oromo's marginalized and subjugated. They were the TPLF's traitors in Oromia, and as soon as Qeerroo and the Oromo nation rose in unison, the OPDO exploited that movement to put themselves where TPLF was/is. Both looted the country blind together and kept its people, the Oromo in particular, subjugated, with the tigrayan elites being at the top of the hierarchy, of course. Both are criminals, Abiy's OPDO, the TPLF, ANDM, all of the EPRDF=have blood on their hands and loot in their accounts, none are innocent. So, yes, TPLF deserves what they got, and even more perhaps, but the OPDO ain't any better.
Yet, this is who the EPLF allied with, recently, to counter a common foe: the tplf. adelem ende? Once again, I ain't mad at that, it's the nature of the game, it is what it is. Shrewd politics, betrayals, war, etc, this is what our region is known as, it is what it is!


Yesterday's allies can easily be tomorrow's foes. For example, the Eritrean armed forces are allies with Amhara's today, but if Amhara elites were to get power and decide to ''reclaim their lost sea ports,'' you'd see Eritreans allying with Oromo's and others.
Or, how TPLF and EPLF were allies, despite their disagreements and ideological differences, because they had a foe in common: the Derg.
Then, the EPLF helped the TPLF solidify its position as rulers of Ethiopia, by keeping the Oromo's and others, subjugated and marginalized. It wasn't personal, I am sure, the EPLF/Eritreans didn't have a grudge or hatred for us Oromo's, but it was in their best interests that their allies, the TPLF, gained power, and managed the transition.
Do I completely blame the EPLF? Of course not! They did what was best for them and Eritrea, even if it were to the detriment of others, and I blame mostly the OLF's leadership for not living up to its potential and making a strong 100,000 or more, Oromo Military force. Had the OLF been as strong as it could have been, no one in the Horn would've been able to mess around with the Oromo's, this is a fact. Oromo's are among the toughest fighters in the Horn, no doubting that.
What are you trying to say?
That such an alliance, if the objectives are clear, and are genuinely about fighting a common foe, is as justified as the eplf-tplf alliance was, or the current abiy/amhara elitist supremacist/eplf alliance is now. all are based on common interests, goals, objectives, and a common foe they wish to subjugate or defeat altogether.

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Re: OLA & TPLF

Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 05 Nov 2021, 21:26

Saddacha when you try to assume an identity that is not yours, your writing most of the time, if not all the time , betrays you.

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Re: OLA & TPLF

Post by sun » 05 Nov 2021, 21:34

Desperate qiraqimbo small time petty shamelessly labeling and bad mouthing the good Ethiopian PM who was elected by the clear majority of Ethiopians in a shining fair & free elections, never seen never heard in Ethiopia for the last some 3000 long years.

Besides, the PM is a certified and proven man of peace an healing who went a long way and granted amnesty for all the domestic and foreign based opposition groups whether armed or not. The PM also granted these now liberated groups and individuals to pursue their political dreams peacefully through elections and popular mandates.

Many of these liberated groups and individuals accepted the great offer though couldn't believe their ears thinking that it is too good to be true being even more surprised when the promises became true. Few rebels including the tplf rejected all offers of peace and peaceful activities hoping to take power by violence, nothing but violent take over like always. Old habits die hard! Even tplf's grand role model comrade POLPOT went nuts and run deep in to jungle and died there for nothing before facing justice and answering for his colossal crimes against humanity. That is also why the tplf is busy collecting all the desperado qiraqimbos so that they may form as insulators between the tplf and the ICC (International Criminal Court). History repeats itself! :lol: :lol:

That is why tplf is collecting all of those inept greedy power hungry splinters so that they may carry the tplf on their back and place it in Menelik's palace for the purpose of shooting and looting just like before. But the current conflict is between the Ethiopian people and the tplf in which case the PM is only a coordinator and mission manager for the Ethiopian people.

The PM also visited many neighboring and distant foreign countries collecting Ethiopian refugees and non refugees residing there and who were in great trouble for various reasons offered them his own official plane and brought them home,sweet home free of charge. This is also something new, never seen, never heard in Ethiopian history for the last some 3000 years.

As a man of peace the PM also negotiated and achieved peace deals with Eritrea after decades of violent and belligerent relationships mainly because tplf's love of war as a means of political, economic and business profitably and wealth accumulation for the tplf oligarchs. So objectively speaking we wish all the best for Ethiopia, the Ethiopian people and the government.

We have only one country and it must exist forever. Differences of interests can be negotiated and agreements reached as time and tide keeps passing. THUMBS UP for the government and the people!


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Re: OLA & TPLF

Post by AbebeB » 05 Nov 2021, 21:36

Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
05 Nov 2021, 21:26
Saddacha when you try to assume an identity that is not yours, your writing most of the time, if not all the time , betrays you.
reduce your envy. eat locust instead.

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Re: OLA & TPLF

Post by sun » 05 Nov 2021, 21:59

AbebeB wrote:
05 Nov 2021, 21:36
Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
05 Nov 2021, 21:26
Saddacha when you try to assume an identity that is not yours, your writing most of the time, if not all the time , betrays you.
reduce your envy. eat locust instead.

Who eats locust to star with? Is it enough to bad mouth passerby when ABUT overruns Oromo territories and force them to be Tigrians.? Kun raajjiidha!

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