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"USA calls on the TDF, the Amhara regional forces, & ENDF to move towards a NEGOTIATED ceasefire" U.S. Embassy Asmara

Post by sarcasm » 15 Jul 2021, 21:04

"[The United States] again calls on the Tigrayan Defense Forces, the Amhara regional forces, and Ethiopian National Defense Forces to move towards a negotiated ceasefire in the interests of civilians in the region and to preserve the unity of the Ethiopian state. We strongly condemn any retaliatory attacks that have been or may be directed against civilians in the Tigray region, whether by organized military or security forces or by rogue elements. The United States further calls on all armed actors to comply with their international humanitarian legal obligations, including regarding the protection of civilians. All those who are responsible for violations of international humanitarian law and human rights abuses must be held accountable."

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Re: "USA calls on the Tigrayan Defense Forces, the Amhara regional forces, & ENDF to move towards a negotiated ceasefire

Post by TGAA » 15 Jul 2021, 21:11

This stupid state department statements calls tigrian defense forces not tigrian regional forces and Ethiopan defense forces ... are they talking about different country Tigry ? only Amahras are regional-- not a 3rd grade student make such stupid statement .... what a bunch of morons.

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Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 15 Jul 2021, 21:21

That is not going to happen. Here is why. TDF — I like TGAA’s observation about — is an insurgent group that takes its order from TPLF. Not quite long ago TPLF was designated a terrorist organization by Ethiopian parliament. Not US , even the Almighty cannot make those three to negotiate.

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Post by sarcasm » 15 Jul 2021, 21:36

Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 21:21
That is not going to happen. Here is why. TDF — I like TGAA’s observation about — is an insurgent group that takes its order from TPLF. Not quite long ago TPLF was designated a terrorist organization by Ethiopian parliament. Not US , even the Almighty cannot make those three to negotiate.
I think Abiy and TDF will eventually sit down and talk as they are not capable of annihilating the other one. But Amhara regional force may not have a chair in the table as Abiy would not allow that.

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Post by Abere » 15 Jul 2021, 21:48

Did I read a tweeted post of Herman Cohen now regretting that Amhara Force has stopped Tigray from declaring its independence? We have to watch out the trick. This talk is about country that has many matured minds or adults not kids who can be easily manipulated. Ethiopia is not going to give an inch from Amhara territory to Tigre so that it will be recognized by America as an independent country using this loot. Ethiopians have to ignore this kind of political hacking. Thanks to the Amhara warriors they knew the phishing messages or tweets by disregarding it to preserve their ancestral land and the land of all Ethiopians.

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Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 15 Jul 2021, 21:52

Eden, take my word that is not going to happen. Believe me I am a causal observer. I have no any affiliation with Ethiopian political party, group, or person. But at the risk of sounding arrogant, I could say my understanding of Ethiopian politics is not bad. Here is my take : Abiy believes as long as TPLF remains alive Ethiopia will not be a peaceful country. I share Abiy’s belief.

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Post by Zmeselo » 15 Jul 2021, 22:02

Do you guys know why the stupid yanks choose to come out with stupid statements like this from US Emb- Asmara, instead of AA?

To avoid being summoned, by the Ethio. Foreign Ministry.

At least that's my guess, in trying to explain this bizarre behaviour.

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Re: "USA calls on the TDF, the Amhara regional forces, & ENDF to move towards a NEGOTIATED ceasefire" U.S. Embassy Asmar

Post by Sabur » 15 Jul 2021, 22:07


We need to read between the lines:

Aby called TPLF, not TDF, a Terrorist Organization.

Now that TPLF changed its name to TDF and the US is telling Aby's Administration to Negotiate with TDF, not the TPLF.

Will Aby stand his ground that TDF is the same organization as TPLF that he called a Terrorist Organization, or will he take it as a face saving since he could not handle the pressure cooker of the US State Dept. ?

We shall see ....

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Post by Aba » 15 Jul 2021, 22:08

Zmeselo wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 22:02
Bozzo,
They are pushing your Tembienai savage into the spotlight for his savage interference in Ethiopia’s internal affairs and putting pressure on his asz to play a constructive role.
:mrgreen: :lol:

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Post by Abe Abraham » 15 Jul 2021, 22:16

TDF or TPLF leadership ? It is a stupid question. If you are running after a thief and the thief on the way changes his clothes ....the thief remains the same thief that you want to arrest.


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Re: "USA calls on the Tigrayan Defense Forces, the Amhara regional forces, & ENDF to move towards a negotiated ceasefire

Post by Abe Abraham » 15 Jul 2021, 22:31

TGAA wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 21:11
This stupid state department statements calls tigrian defense forces not tigrian regional forces and Ethiopan defense forces ... are they talking about different country Tigry ? only Amahras are regional-- not a 3rd grade student make such stupid statement .... what a bunch of morons.
You are right. They are a bunch of morons. Look at his extract :
We strongly condemn any retaliatory attacks that have been or may be directed against civilians in the Tigray region, whether by organized military or security forces or by rogue elements.
Does it make any sense ? What are they trying to hide ?

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Post by Sabur » 15 Jul 2021, 22:38


One ought to know how the US State Dept can spin the names TDF and TPLF for face saving while covertly pressuring Aby.

In layman's words the State Dept can say:

"Well initially the Ethiopia force destroyed the TPLF group that wanted to destabilize Ethiopia. But after they destroyed the TPLF group, the people of Tigray felt that their region has been unfairly attacked and got destroyed by the Ethiopian National Defense Forces (ENDF) and Amhara Special forces (ASF). And the people of Tigray, rightly so,formed Tigray Defense Forces- TDF- to save their region from getting destroyed".

The US State Dept will try to justify the formation of TDF even though TDF is TPLF for all that we know.
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Post by Zmeselo » 15 Jul 2021, 22:42

"Spotlight", says my attention seeking q'mal on 2 legs.

Is that why Eritrea, let alone PIA, is not mentioned in the statement at all?

A genius explanation, from an iodine deficient brain!
:lol:

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The terror junta organized its offensive, in three lines. The front row, children age between 8 and 15 armed with hand bombs. The second row, children 16 to 20 age group who share 1 hand gun for 3. The last line, with Militia and Special force. TPLF is a terrorist group!

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Re: "USA calls on the Tigrayan Defense Forces, the Amhara regional forces, & ENDF to move towards a negotiated ceasefire

Post by TGAA » 15 Jul 2021, 22:51

Abe Abraham wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 22:31
TGAA wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 21:11
This stupid state department statements calls tigrian defense forces not tigrian regional forces and Ethiopan defense forces ... are they talking about different country Tigry ? only Amahras are regional-- not a 3rd grade student make such stupid statement .... what a bunch of morons.
You are right. They are a bunch of morons. Look at his extract :
We strongly condemn any retaliatory attacks that have been or may be directed against civilians in the Tigray region, whether by organized military or security forces or by rogue elements.
Does it make any sense ? What are they trying to hide ?
When Weyanes march to makele and south and retaliate against civilians state department doesn't say a hoot, but when weyane invaders are routed out retaliation against civilians becomes an issue -- purposely to protect weyanes from complete doom. Having said that the Abiy government and the Amharas special forces should not get into a trap that weyanes and CIA is preparing them to get in . Blow weyanes into pieces when they come to attack, but need not to pursue them to their center, cause they have no power to change the course of the event -- give them a month or so they will start to cannibalize themselves. Make sure their western don't get them a weapon or any other means for them to resuscitate but leave the Tigrian people to figure out what they want to do with them.

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Post by Aba » 15 Jul 2021, 23:41

U.S. Embassy in Asmara (with only a Charge d'Affaires) is used to indicate how little respect the U.S. gives the Axis of Evil who conducted 8 months of genocidal war before they were defeated out of Tigray. :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

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Post by Zmeselo » 16 Jul 2021, 00:09

As far as we're concerned, they can even pack up & leave! The only downside is our diaspora in the US, might need visa services & such.

Otherwise there's zero bilateral relationship with the yanks, thanx be to God!

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Post by sarcasm » 22 Aug 2023, 19:59

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
22 Aug 2023, 16:39
You seem to have skipped the very core of why we all are in current mess we are in.
I think you have make up your mind whether the conflict was a Tigray Government vs the Federal Government or a Tigray Government vs Amhara Government. If it was between Tigray Government and the Federal Government, then Amhara Government had no no business getting involved. If it was between Tigray Government and Amhara Government, then the Federal Government would . . . . .
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
22 Aug 2023, 16:39
I remember once you said " there was going to be discussion between OPDO and TPLF and, even ADP the servant wouldn't be invited to the table ". Perhaps you spoke out of arrogance and the ill attitude that you are made to develop because of the last 50+ years of identity politics.
See below what I said. We were just sharing our reading of the conflict and our predictions. My prediction two years ago was spot on!

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15 Jul 2021, 21:36
Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 21:21
That is not going to happen. Here is why. TDF — I like TGAA’s observation about — is an insurgent group that takes its order from TPLF. Not quite long ago TPLF was designated a terrorist organization by Ethiopian parliament. Not US , even the Almighty cannot make those three to negotiate.
I think Abiy and TDF will eventually sit down and talk as they are not capable of annihilating the other one. But Amhara regional force may not have a chair in the table as Abiy would not allow that.

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Post by Hazega/Tsazega. » 22 Aug 2023, 20:23

sarcasm wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 21:04
Out-of-context news/post/thread from July 2021...courtesy of sarcasm/eden the TPLF-agame concubine...


sarcasm (eden) the Ashenda Tigray "certified professional"...always trying to mislead and gaslight people by reusing out-of-context news-stories/posts from years ago.

We need Abusalama protection (condoms?) for the lies of TPLF-agames too :mrgreen:

eden,
Like some women of faith, i heard you too have a tattoo on your five-finger TPLF-agame forehead??
However, instead of a cross ✝️ , its a tramp stamp :mrgreen:




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Post by sarcasm » 23 Aug 2023, 19:44

sarcasm wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 21:36
Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 21:21
That is not going to happen. Here is why. TDF — I like TGAA’s observation about — is an insurgent group that takes its order from TPLF. Not quite long ago TPLF was designated a terrorist organization by Ethiopian parliament. Not US , even the Almighty cannot make those three to negotiate.
I think Abiy and TDF will eventually sit down and talk as they are not capable of annihilating the other one. But Amhara regional force may not have a chair in the table as Abiy would not allow that.
Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 21:52
Eden, take my word that is not going to happen. Believe me I am a causal observer. I have no any affiliation with Ethiopian political party, group, or person. But at the risk of sounding arrogant, I could say my understanding of Ethiopian politics is not bad. Here is my take : Abiy believes as long as TPLF remains alive Ethiopia will not be a peaceful country. I share Abiy’s belief.
You owe me

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Post by Hazega/Tsazega. » 23 Aug 2023, 21:40


Really eden/sarcasm...i don't think you made a profound conclusion...people go to war and they also talk in the end but that is if both parties agree & have trust -or- as a matter of temporary convenience.

Its funny how you tried to gaslight/misdirect the exclusion of others as if Abiy didn't allow it...when in fact we saw you TPLF-agame repeatedly begging your Uncle Sam 🇺🇲 to exclude & punish Amhara/Afar for the repeated attacks you TPLF launched.

What's your prediction of these two flip-floppers that sat down to talk??...do they have the just moral cause/principles to convince the rest of the nation/regions & political groupings??...or is their nature for flip-flopping just buying them time until opportunity arises to backstab or throw each other under the bus?? 🚎 🚌
(Despite trying to also throw others they both fear, in the meantime) :roll:

Why couldn't you also predict that your TPLF-agame leaders would end up marching 1million TPLF infant-ry combatants to their death in two years time??...or did you already calculate those figures/costs and went ahead with your plan anyway so that you could talk in the end to say you were right??

...but then again TPLF-agame leaders were saying no matter what the cost (spoke recklessly like thieves that had billions of stolen money to burn 💶 💵 💰 🔥🔥 🚬).

Well cheers to your wager of 1million+ lives, for the sake of a beer/drinks 🍻 🥂





sarcasm wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 19:44
sarcasm wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 21:36
Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
15 Jul 2021, 21:21
...relevant assessment based on situation/context at the time...
I think Abiy and TDF will eventually sit down and talk as they are not capable of annihilating the other one. But Amhara regional force may not have a chair in the table as Abiy would not allow that.
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