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Post by DefendTheTruth » 20 Jun 2020, 06:19

Merja.TV,

this is a very interesting and brilliant observation by General Kasaye Chemeda, who by all standard of an imagination deserved more but not less to have a say on issues of common interest of the people of our country compared to the likes of Jannjoo Mohammed, Tsegaye Ararsa, Henok Gabissa and Izikel Gabisa and their likes, who can show off a zero contribution to the efforts of keeping the country well and safe.

But one major question remains, it seems to me, to answer before we can talk about Oromo and Amhara divide (this applies to the other ethnic groups in the country as well, I think at least).

Who are the Amharas before trying to sort them out?
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Someone needs to disprove Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedehin's claim saying the following before trying to draw the divide:

"ኦሮሞ ነኝ ማለትህ አማራ አይደለውም ማለት አይደለም" "አማራ ነኝ ማለትህ ትግሬ አይደለውም ማለት አይደለም"

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Post by banebris2013 » 20 Jun 2020, 10:18

DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 06:19
Merja.TV,

this is a very interesting and brilliant observation by General Kasaye Chemeda, who by all standard of an imagination deserved more but not less to have a say on issues of common interest of the people of our country compared to the likes of Jannjoo Mohammed, Tsegaye Ararsa, Henok Gabissa and Izikel Gabisa and their likes, who can show off a zero contribution to the efforts of keeping the country well and safe.

But one major question remains, it seems to me, to answer before we can talk about Oromo and Amhara divide (this applies to the other ethnic groups in the country as well, I think at least).

Who are the Amharas before trying to sort them out?
Please wait, video is loading...
Someone needs to disprove Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedehin's claim saying the following before trying to draw the divide:

"ኦሮሞ ነኝ ማለትህ አማራ አይደለውም ማለት አይደለም" "አማራ ነኝ ማለትህ ትግሬ አይደለውም ማለት አይደለም"
Here you go again. Just like habasha media, you can not make your point with out mentioning (Jawar and the likes). Insulting Jawar and the likes tells what type of person you are. You are a pretender. Never a truth defender. I think you are extremely jealous of people like Jawar. There is something that eats you from inside. Otherwise you could have made all your points without insulting this people. Do you feel guilty of something? Can you tell as what makes insult these people?

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Post by sun » 20 Jun 2020, 17:45

Mereja.TV wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 05:49
Wrong and less than half truth at best! :P

This general lacks vision and nominally elementary broader views because he thinks that every Oromo must feel good and be grateful only because he is an Oromo high ranking general who feels good and grateful, rather than being regretful. He better tell that fiction to general Taddasa Birru, Mammo Mezemmir and or even Mengistu & Garmame Neway.

It is not the number of generals alone that matters most but the number of political all round policy initiators and policy implementer because generals take orders from the political leaderships. Oromos are/were known dedicated fighters but not policy framers and political decision makers as they were kept out of the benefits of having to exercise equal participation in the country's political and governance activities.
8)

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Post by Cheap Eritrean » 20 Jun 2020, 17:58

That explains the reason why Ethiopian army was defeated by us(EPLF), by the agames,by Somlia nomads etc. I think for Ethiopia to win any war there shouldn't be more than 1 or 2 Oromo Generals in the army.

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Post by sun » 20 Jun 2020, 18:11

Cheap Eritrean wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 17:58
That explains the reason why Ethiopian army was defeated by us(EPLF), by the agames,by Somlia nomads etc. I think for Ethiopia to win any war there shouldn't be more than 1 or 2 Oromo Generals in the army.
"If wishes were horses even limp beggars could ride high" ~adage applies :mrgreen:

I am not a politician but yet if Oromos had lots of top generals even under the various bygone governments and kept Mamma Ethiopia independent, intact and free like the birds in the sky what the fck in your hind hole sack makes you think now, when when Oromos have political, etc. powers loony bums like may assign only 1 or 2 Generals in a country where the great and the egalitarian democratic Oromos number some 55 million out of some 100 million good Ethiopians? 8)

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Post by banebris2013 » 20 Jun 2020, 20:09

banebris2013 wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 10:18
DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 06:19
Merja.TV,

this is a very interesting and brilliant observation by General Kasaye Chemeda, who by all standard of an imagination deserved more but not less to have a say on issues of common interest of the people of our country compared to the likes of Jannjoo Mohammed, Tsegaye Ararsa, Henok Gabissa and Izikel Gabisa and their likes, who can show off a zero contribution to the efforts of keeping the country well and safe.

But one major question remains, it seems to me, to answer before we can talk about Oromo and Amhara divide (this applies to the other ethnic groups in the country as well, I think at least).

Who are the Amharas before trying to sort them out?
Please wait, video is loading...
Someone needs to disprove Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedehin's claim saying the following before trying to draw the divide:

"ኦሮሞ ነኝ ማለትህ አማራ አይደለውም ማለት አይደለም" "አማራ ነኝ ማለትህ ትግሬ አይደለውም ማለት አይደለም"
Here you go again. Just like habasha media, you can not make your point with out mentioning (Jawar and the likes). Insulting Jawar and the likes tells what type of person you are. You are a pretender. Never a truth defender. I think you are extremely jealous of people like Jawar. There is something that eats you from inside. Otherwise you could have made all your points without insulting this people. Do you feel guilty of something? Can you tell us what makes you insult these people?

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Post by banebris2013 » 20 Jun 2020, 20:19

sun wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 17:45
Mereja.TV wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 05:49
Wrong and less than half truth at best! :P

This general lacks vision and nominally elementary broader views because he thinks that every Oromo must feel good and be grateful only because he is an Oromo high ranking general who feels good and grateful, rather than being regretful. He better tell that fiction to general Taddasa Birru, Mammo Mezemmir and or even Mengistu & Garmame Neway.

It is not the number of generals alone that matters most but the number of political all round policy initiators and policy implementer because generals take orders from the political leaderships. Oromos are/were known dedicated fighters but not policy framers and political decision makers as they were kept out of the benefits of having to exercise equal participation in the country's political and governance activities.
8)
Sun,
You Nailed it. In addition to the army, there were many oromos in the top government positions, with out having significant infuelnce in the political decision making. Most of them were loyal servants of the system. You can just call them "talaalakies".

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 22 Jun 2020, 17:18

banebris2013 wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 10:18
DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 06:19
Merja.TV,

this is a very interesting and brilliant observation by General Kasaye Chemeda, who by all standard of an imagination deserved more but not less to have a say on issues of common interest of the people of our country compared to the likes of Jannjoo Mohammed, Tsegaye Ararsa, Henok Gabissa and Izikel Gabisa and their likes, who can show off a zero contribution to the efforts of keeping the country well and safe.

But one major question remains, it seems to me, to answer before we can talk about Oromo and Amhara divide (this applies to the other ethnic groups in the country as well, I think at least).

Who are the Amharas before trying to sort them out?
Please wait, video is loading...
Someone needs to disprove Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedehin's claim saying the following before trying to draw the divide:

"ኦሮሞ ነኝ ማለትህ አማራ አይደለውም ማለት አይደለም" "አማራ ነኝ ማለትህ ትግሬ አይደለውም ማለት አይደለም"
Here you go again. Just like habasha media, you can not make your point with out mentioning (Jawar and the likes). Insulting Jawar and the likes tells what type of person you are. You are a pretender. Never a truth defender. I think you are extremely jealous of people like Jawar. There is something that eats you from inside. Otherwise you could have made all your points without insulting this people. Do you feel guilty of something? Can you tell as what makes insult these people?
Didn't you run away from answering the simple question I put to you?

Dedeb!

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 22 Jun 2020, 17:22

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 22 Jun 2020, 17:31

sun wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 17:45
Mereja.TV wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 05:49
Wrong and less than half truth at best! :P

This general lacks vision and nominally elementary broader views because he thinks that every Oromo must feel good and be grateful only because he is an Oromo high ranking general who feels good and grateful, rather than being regretful. He better tell that fiction to general Taddasa Birru, Mammo Mezemmir and or even Mengistu & Garmame Neway.

It is not the number of generals alone that matters most but the number of political all round policy initiators and policy implementer because generals take orders from the political leaderships. Oromos are/were known dedicated fighters but not policy framers and political decision makers as they were kept out of the benefits of having to exercise equal participation in the country's political and governance activities.
8)
The General said that "Ethiopia was built and sustained with an iron hard sacrifices and can't be simply undone like something which was cemented like from a sand" and you can't understand about it when you have little to none of that to show off from your side. So, should I wounder about your calling it a half truth?

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 22 Jun 2020, 17:34

Cheap Eritrean wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 17:58
That explains the reason why Ethiopian army was defeated by us(EPLF), by the agames,by Somlia nomads etc. I think for Ethiopia to win any war there shouldn't be more than 1 or 2 Oromo Generals in the army.
That was why your chear-leader was readily claiming something about "those who tried to attack Ethiopia never had the opportunity and time to tell about the story of their engagement with us" or something similar.

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Post by banebris2013 » 22 Jun 2020, 17:47

DefendTheTruth wrote:
22 Jun 2020, 17:18
banebris2013 wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 10:18
DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 06:19
Merja.TV,

this is a very interesting and brilliant observation by General Kasaye Chemeda, who by all standard of an imagination deserved more but not less to have a say on issues of common interest of the people of our country compared to the likes of Jannjoo Mohammed, Tsegaye Ararsa, Henok Gabissa and Izikel Gabisa and their likes, who can show off a zero contribution to the efforts of keeping the country well and safe.

But one major question remains, it seems to me, to answer before we can talk about Oromo and Amhara divide (this applies to the other ethnic groups in the country as well, I think at least).

Who are the Amharas before trying to sort them out?
Please wait, video is loading...
Someone needs to disprove Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedehin's claim saying the following before trying to draw the divide:

"ኦሮሞ ነኝ ማለትህ አማራ አይደለውም ማለት አይደለም" "አማራ ነኝ ማለትህ ትግሬ አይደለውም ማለት አይደለም"
Here you go again. Just like habasha media, you can not make your point with out mentioning (Jawar and the likes). Insulting Jawar and the likes tells what type of person you are. You are a pretender. Never a truth defender. I think you are extremely jealous of people like Jawar. There is something that eats you from inside. Otherwise you could have made all your points without insulting this people. Do you feel guilty of something? Can you tell as what makes insult these people?
Didn't you run away from answering the simple question I put to you?

Dedeb!
I might be DEDEB, but i do not go after people out of plane jealousy. As i said there is something that eats you from inside, possibly a guilt. If i feel you are one of those who deserves answer or explanation, i could have done it. Sadly you do not qualify that. Insulting is the sign of weakness and lack of confidence. You are simply a pretender to be.

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Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 22 Jun 2020, 20:19

For some Abiy Ahmed isn't Oromo, Mengistu Hailemariam Ayana isn't Oromo, the Mayor of addis isn't Oromo, Teferi Mekonnen Woldemikael Gudissa isn't Oromo. Anybody who speaks of Ethiopia in a positive tone can't be Ethiopian. Jawarisim is anchored on a narration that asserts the existence of no common history among the people who live now in geographic Ethiopia. One wonders what reality could his followers would agree on except a reality fabricated for them in the Dedebit mountains. Now come back and tell me Lemma Megerssa is also half Oromo..:)

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Post by Abdisa » 22 Jun 2020, 22:09

"Institutional racism is distinguished from racial bigotry by the existence of institutional systemic policies, practices and economic and political structures which place ethnic groups at a disadvantage in relation to an institution's ruling ethnic class."

The highly decorated General Tadesse Biru, the man who trained President Nelson Mandela in Ethiopia, was the founder of the Oromo Liberation Front. Find out why.....


The Derg regime assassinated General Tadesse Biru
Media march 18-19 reported the execution of Hailu Regassa, Tadesse Biru, Alula Bekelle, Rezene Kidane, Meless Tekle and Giday Gebre-Wahid late march 18 in addis ababa. (Wikileaks)



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Post by DefendTheTruth » 23 Jun 2020, 16:52

Abdisa wrote:
22 Jun 2020, 22:09
"Institutional racism is distinguished from racial bigotry by the existence of institutional systemic policies, practices and economic and political structures which place ethnic groups at a disadvantage in relation to an institution's ruling ethnic class."

Look at this another member of the Menga, who is labouring him/herself to tell us that there was an institutionalized "racism" in Ethiopia, ostensibly against the Oromo people, simply because, according to his distorted view, General Tadesse Birru was ill-treated by the system.

And to prove this, he shows a clipping from a text written somewhere and suggests an individual in the government was sharing his view with the victim, but nowhere indicates that this was a government policy to be called an institutionalized act.

According to my reading and many others of the members of the Ethiopian people there is no doubt that General Tadesse Birru was ill-treated and victimized by the system, only because he tried to rectify some of the injustices in the system. But trying to extrapolate that and say that it was an institutionalized policy just defies the common sense of the lay man, simply because those in power were also partly Oromos themselves. An Oromo ill-treated another Oromo or was part of the perpetrators.

Go and prove me wrong that part of the perpetrators were never been the Oromos themselves.


የመንጋ አስተሰሰብ አንድ የማይረደው ቁም ነገር አለ። ይሄውም የሰርዐት ጨቀይ እንጅ የዘር ጨቀኝ ኢትዮጵያ ውስጥ አልነበረም። ዘሬም የለም።

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 23 Jun 2020, 17:02

banebris2013 wrote:
22 Jun 2020, 17:47

I might be DEDEB, but i do not go after people out of plane jealousy. As i said there is something that eats you from inside, possibly a guilt. If i feel you are one of those who deserves answer or explanation, i could have done it. Sadly you do not qualify that. Insulting is the sign of weakness and lack of confidence. You are simply a pretender to be.
ጭቃ!

go and try to compare what you have been blabbering here and in the other thread, where you didn't want to reply and try to take cover under the claim that i don't deserve explanation. If i don't deserve explanation, then why do you keep trying to reply to someone, who doesn't deserve an explanation?

Whom do you think you can impress?

Go and keep collecting your petitions, to demand revoking of PM Abey's Nobel Peace Prize, removal of King Menelik's statue in Addis (Finfinne), and now distributions of Condominiums in the Capital among the Amhara and Oromo (whatever that may mean).

Mefariyawoch!

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Post by AbebeB » 23 Jun 2020, 17:08

Mereja.TV wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 05:49
ይህ ወዶ ገባ (ካሣዬ ጨመዳ) ምን እያለ ነው? ኦሮሞ እኮ ፀረ-ኦሮሞ የሆነውን የአማራ ሥርዓት እንጂ የሚጋው ከዲቃላ ጀነራሎች ወይም የጋብቻ ገልቱዎች አጃ የለንም፡፡ ከሰሞነኞቹም ጠ/ሚ ኮ/ል አብዮት ካሣዬም አለላችሁ እኮ፡፡ በኦሮሚያ ስለተወለደ በኦሮሞነት ሊቆጠር ነው?

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Re: በጄነራሎች ቁጥር በሶስቱም መንግስት ኦሮሞዎች የበላይ ናቸው - ጄነራል ካሳዬ ጨመዳ

Post by banebris2013 » 23 Jun 2020, 20:14

DefendTheTruth wrote:
23 Jun 2020, 17:02
banebris2013 wrote:
22 Jun 2020, 17:47

I might be DEDEB, but i do not go after people out of plane jealousy. As i said there is something that eats you from inside, possibly a guilt. If i feel you are one of those who deserves answer or explanation, i could have done it. Sadly you do not qualify that. Insulting is the sign of weakness and lack of confidence. You are simply a pretender to be.
ጭቃ!

go and try to compare what you have been blabbering here and in the other thread, where you didn't want to reply and try to take cover under the claim that i don't deserve explanation. If i don't deserve explanation, then why do you keep trying to reply to someone, who doesn't deserve an explanation?

Whom do you think you can impress?

Go and keep collecting your petitions, to demand revoking of PM Abey's Nobel Peace Prize, removal of King Menelik's statue in Addis (Finfinne), and now distributions of Condominiums in the Capital among the Amhara and Oromo (whatever that may mean).

Mefariyawoch!
Can spare your garbage? Sorry you don't need to spare as you are full of it. Keep Abiy out of your garbage thinking. I told you before that all your argument is based on what you get from garbage collectors like you. Most of the things you use to support your argument is from "yemender waree". Again you are pretender to be. There is nothing worse than being rejected. I am pretty sure oromos rejected you in the past and you are trying to get back at them. Nice try. Dr Abiy is not as silly as you are.

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Re: በጄነራሎች ቁጥር በሶስቱም መንግስት ኦሮሞዎች የበላይ ናቸው - ጄነራል ካሳዬ ጨመዳ

Post by AbebeB » 23 Jun 2020, 20:25

AbebeB wrote:
23 Jun 2020, 17:08
Mereja.TV wrote:
20 Jun 2020, 05:49
ይህ ወዶ ገባ (ካሣዬ ጨመዳ) ምን እያለ ነው? ኦሮሞ እኮ ፀረ-ኦሮሞ የሆነውን የአማራ ሥርዓት እንጂ የሚጋው ከዲቃላ ጀነራሎች ወይም የጋብቻ ገልቱዎች አጃ የለንም፡፡ ከሰሞነኞቹም ጠ/ሚ ኮ/ል አብዮት ካሣዬም አለላችሁ እኮ፡፡ በኦሮሚያ ስለተወለደ በኦሮሞነት ሊቆጠር ነው?
What is this willfully ignorant and retired Amhara slave officer saying about Oromo nation?

ይህ ወዶ ገባ (ካሣዬ ጨመዳ) ምን እያለ ነው? ኦሮሞ እኮ ፀረ-ኦሮሞ የሆነውን የአማራ ሥርዓት እንጂ የሚጋው ከዲቃላ ጀነራሎች ወይም የጋብቻ ገልቱዎች አጃ የለንም፡፡ ከሰሞነኞቹም ጠ/ሚ ኮ/ል አብዮት ካሣዬም አለላችሁ እኮ፡፡ በኦሮሚያ ስለተወለደ በኦሮሞነት ሊቆጠር ነው?

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