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[C beyond]

[sebdoyeley]

we are Eritrean people with dignity and integrity if they were Amhara in agame land they would been sodomized by likes Aziza by now.
we just let the go where they come from this is the difference between clean Eritrean and agame sahsah

[justo]

WTF is this niftam idiot habtamu ayalew saying, what delegation is he talking about, the guy, so called papas, representing vatican is not welcome in Eritrea, so what is the problem? He should go to Rome instead with his delegation

[C beyond]

DIA supporters are starting to make excuses for him

WTF is this niftam idiot habtamu ayalew saying, what delegation is he talking about, the guy, so called papas, representing vatican is not welcome in Eritrea, so what is the problem? He should go to Rome instead with his delegation

[Ethoash]

there is no የኤርትራ መንግስት በኢትዮጵያ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን ... speak for yourself say የኤርትራ መንግስት በአማራ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን

ኦሮሞችማ የራሳቸውን ካቶሊክ ቤተክርስታን መስረተዋል ። በየገደሉ እየሄዱ አይቀድሱም ። አሁን እነዚህ የአማራ ካቶሊኮች ኢሱ ሃይማኖት እንደማይወድ እያወቁ ለምንደነው ኤርትራ የሚሄዱት ነገር ለመፈለግ ነው ወይ። ኦሮሞን በነገር ጠብሰው በሉት አሁን ደግሞ የኤርትራን ክርስታኖች በኢሱ ላይ ሊያስነሱበት ነው ወይ የሚሄዱት ነፃነት የላቹሁም ለማለት ።

ወንድሜ ኤርትራኖች ቀልድ አያውቁም በዚህ ላይ ደግሞ መብታችው ነው ቪዛ የመከልከል ኤርትራኖች ሱዳን ወይም ግብፅ እንደማለት ነው የቪዛ የመከልከል መብታቸው በደንብ የተጠበቀ ነው። እኔን ትንሽ ቅር ያለኝ ቪዛ ከስጡ በኋወላ መልሷ መከልከሉ አንዴ ኤርትራ ከደረሱ በኋላ ግን ትልቅ ድፍረት ነው። ግንኙነትችንንም የሚያበላሽ ነው። ኤርትራኖች ዲፕሎማቲክ አለመሆናቸው በጣም ነው የጎዳቸው። ፈጣጤ ናቸው ለማንኛውም ይህ ጉዳይ በጣም አስቆኛል ሙሉ ቪዲዬን ተመልክቼ አስተያየት እስጣለሁ። ይህን ያልኩት ግን አማራን ቡዳዎችን ስለማወቃቸው በኤርትራ ሃይማኖት ጣልቃ ሊገቡ ሲሉ እጀከፍንጅ ስለትያዙ ነው የሚያለቃቅሱት ። ለምን የኤርትራ እስላሞች መጥተው እስላሙን አያነቃቁትም የዛን ግዜ ያዙን ልቀቁኝ ትላላቹሁ። ለምን ይህ ብቻ የግብፅና የሳውዲም እስላሞች መጥተው አላሞችን ያነጋግሩ።

[justo]

there is no የኤርትራ መንግስት በኢትዮጵያ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን ... speak for yourself say የኤርትራ መንግስት በአማራ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን

ኦሮሞችማ የራሳቸውን ካቶሊክ ቤተክርስታን መስረተዋል ። በየገደሉ እየሄዱ አይቀድሱም ። አሁን እነዚህ የአማራ ካቶሊኮች ኢሱ ሃይማኖት እንደማይወድ እያወቁ ለምንደነው ኤርትራ የሚሄዱት ነገር ለመፈለግ ነው ወይ። ኦሮሞን በነገር ጠብሰው በሉት አሁን ደግሞ የኤርትራን ክርስታኖች በኢሱ ላይ ሊያስነሱበት ነው ወይ የሚሄዱት ነፃነት የላቹሁም ለማለት ።

ወንድሜ ኤርትራኖች ቀልድ አያውቁም በዚህ ላይ ደግሞ መብታችው ነው ቪዛ የመከልከል ኤርትራኖች ሱዳን ወይም ግብፅ እንደማለት ነው የቪዛ የመከልከል መብታቸው በደንብ የተጠበቀ ነው። እኔን ትንሽ ቅር ያለኝ ቪዛ ከስጡ በኋወላ መልሷ መከልከሉ አንዴ ኤርትራ ከደረሱ በኋላ ግን ትልቅ ድፍረት ነው። ግንኙነትችንንም የሚያበላሽ ነው። ኤርትራኖች ዲፕሎማቲክ አለመሆናቸው በጣም ነው የጎዳቸው። ፈጣጤ ናቸው ለማንኛውም ይህ ጉዳይ በጣም አስቆኛል ሙሉ ቪዲዬን ተመልክቼ አስተያየት እስጣለሁ። ይህን ያልኩት ግን አማራን ቡዳዎችን ስለማወቃቸው በኤርትራ ሃይማኖት ጣልቃ ሊገቡ ሲሉ እጀከፍንጅ ስለትያዙ ነው የሚያለቃቅሱት ። ለምን የኤርትራ እስላሞች መጥተው እስላሙን አያነቃቁትም የዛን ግዜ ያዙን ልቀቁኝ ትላላቹሁ። ለምን ይህ ብቻ የግብፅና የሳውዲም እስላሞች መጥተው አላሞችን ያነጋግሩ።

shushshshsh ... redat professor ... shushshsh yibelu

[Masud]

Enezih Qiletamoch, min abatachew liyadergu yale fiqad Eritrea hedu? Do the foolish Ethiopian Catholic priests think that Eritrea is one province of Ethiopia? It is a sovereign country and have the authority to kick them out. They rather must be grateful to Eritrean government for not thrwing then into jail.

[QB]

Egzio meharene kirstos Egzio meharene kirstos Egzio meharene kirstos Egzio meharene kirstos Egzio meharene kirstos

[Ethoash]

correction

there is no የኤርትራ መንግስት በኢትዮጵያ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን ... speak for yourself say የኤርትራ መንግስት በአማራ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን

should read

there is no የኢትዮጵያ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን ... speak for yourself say የአማራ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን... የአማራ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን.doesnt represent the oromo ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን. if የአማራ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን.looking for trouble they should stand on their own..

trust me the Amhara Eritrea love will be short lived thanks for this idiot የአማራ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን.

if they were የኢትዮጵያ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን they should have send Golden speaker የኢትዮጵያ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን .. so that they speak in the same language to pass the message why would Eritrea forced to hear Amharic when their is Golden speaker in Ethiopia .. this is simple diplomatic move ....ጠቅላይ ሚኒስተር መለስ ይግደለኝ። የሱማሌ አምባሳደር አርጎ የላከው ሱማሌ ነበር ። ሳዊዲ የላከው አረብኛ ተናጋሪ ኢትዬዽያዊ እስላም ነበር። እስራሄል እንባሲ እብራይስጥ የሚናገር አምባሳደር ነበር። አረ የዛ ንጉስ መለስ ብልጥት ወደር የለውም ። መለስ ይህንን ካደረገ ከብዙ እመታት በዋላ አሜሪካኖችና ካናዳዎች የመለስን ፈለግ ተከትለው አምባሳደራቸውን ማስተካከል ጀመሪ። ይህ ነው ዲፕሎማ ማለት ። ነገር መፈለግ አይደለም

አንድ የእማራ አባበል አለ ነገር የሚፈልግ ቄስ በየገድሉ እየሄደ ይቀድሳል ነው። ሴጣን በየአመዱና በየገደሉ ይኖራል ተብሎ ስለሚገመት ምን አስኬደው። እዛ ነገር ካልፈለግ ብስተቀር ። አሁንም ምን አባታቸው ፍለጋ ነው ኤርትራ የሚሄዱት ምና አባታቸው ሊያረጉ ነገር ከመፈለግ በስተቀር።

[Ethoash]

Enezih Qiletamoch, min abatachew liyadergu yale fiqad Eritrea hedu? Do the foolish Ethiopian Catholic priests think that Eritrea is one province of Ethiopia? It is a sovereign country and have the authority to kick them out. They rather must be grateful to Eritrean government for not thrwing then into jail.

i told u million years ago this buda people are something else ... if they go to USA without visa they would be arrested and black listed never to come back.. and deported after they finished jail time.. the crime already committed when they landed in Eritrea it is trespassing their sovereignty i thought they have visa and they were given visa..

i have hard time downloading this video but it look very juicy news. i wish it is truth they went without visa and this idiot old Esat supporting those Amhara priest

[sebdoyeley]

there is no የኤርትራ መንግስት በኢትዮጵያ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን ... speak for yourself say የኤርትራ መንግስት በአማራ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስቲያን

ኦሮሞችማ የራሳቸውን ካቶሊክ ቤተክርስታን መስረተዋል ። በየገደሉ እየሄዱ አይቀድሱም ። አሁን እነዚህ የአማራ ካቶሊኮች ኢሱ ሃይማኖት እንደማይወድ እያወቁ ለምንደነው ኤርትራ የሚሄዱት ነገር ለመፈለግ ነው ወይ። ኦሮሞን በነገር ጠብሰው በሉት አሁን ደግሞ የኤርትራን ክርስታኖች በኢሱ ላይ ሊያስነሱበት ነው ወይ የሚሄዱት ነፃነት የላቹሁም ለማለት ።

ወንድሜ ኤርትራኖች ቀልድ አያውቁም በዚህ ላይ ደግሞ መብታችው ነው ቪዛ የመከልከል ኤርትራኖች ሱዳን ወይም ግብፅ እንደማለት ነው የቪዛ የመከልከል መብታቸው በደንብ የተጠበቀ ነው። እኔን ትንሽ ቅር ያለኝ ቪዛ ከስጡ በኋወላ መልሷ መከልከሉ አንዴ ኤርትራ ከደረሱ በኋላ ግን ትልቅ ድፍረት ነው። ግንኙነትችንንም የሚያበላሽ ነው። ኤርትራኖች ዲፕሎማቲክ አለመሆናቸው በጣም ነው የጎዳቸው። ፈጣጤ ናቸው ለማንኛውም ይህ ጉዳይ በጣም አስቆኛል ሙሉ ቪዲዬን ተመልክቼ አስተያየት እስጣለሁ። ይህን ያልኩት ግን አማራን ቡዳዎችን ስለማወቃቸው በኤርትራ ሃይማኖት ጣልቃ ሊገቡ ሲሉ እጀከፍንጅ ስለትያዙ ነው የሚያለቃቅሱት ። ለምን የኤርትራ እስላሞች መጥተው እስላሙን አያነቃቁትም የዛን ግዜ ያዙን ልቀቁኝ ትላላቹሁ። ለምን ይህ ብቻ የግብፅና የሳውዲም እስላሞች መጥተው አላሞችን ያነጋግሩ።

EthioAsh you crack me up man" Eritreans are not diplomatic on their way dealing with things" hahhahahahahah
EthioAsh it may have some truth on that Amara ahiya will learn slowly or forcesfully.
ethioAsh you see how i backe you up when you are surczimly insult us and at the same time been truthfull. we were bodies before you showed us ur rears. like when we were in strugle . what the [deleted] happen in 1998 man. why you so fucked up and broke your own backbone tell me

[Ethoash]

EthioAsh you crack me up man" Eritreans are not diplomatic on their way dealing with things" hahhahahahahah
EthioAsh it may have some truth on that Amara ahiya will learn slowly or forcesfully.
ethioAsh you see how i backe you up when you are surczimly insult us and at the same time been truthfull.

forget about what happened in 1998... i still have strong love for Eritrea... i love them more then i love the Amhara .. not because based on ehtnic but i know the Eritrea will make it if they have good leader because the people are driven people..

in Amhara case they r just buda people .. they try to stop you from progress they r poverty keeper .. they will do 100 mile to keep someone in poverty then walking one mile to make themselves rich ...they dont want to see other progresses this is not only Amhaara character but all black character ...the call it the ‘crabs-in-a-barrel’ syndrome... on crab allowed other crab to escape from the barrel they pull each other down ... i am sorry to tell the truth about Amhar but this doesnt mean they dont have advantage.. they have good advantage when they were not in power .. if they r not in power they will be very productive community .. for example they excl in art and music they make Art work ..they r very gifted let alone Amharic when they sing Arabic Somalia and any other language they will show how gifted they r ... they also negging machine they will negging out of your mind .. them make u change your way u like it or not so if they r right it is for good .. sometime the government need some one to neg them that is why TPLF meles used the Amhara negging to his advantage .. and developed Addis Ababa beyond recognition...

when they told him privatized land he said no so the start negging him so he introduce leasing and start selling mega land for farm then they start saying land grab. what the fk .. TPLF WAS SLEEPING ON JOB FOR the frist ten years then the Amhara negging him to walk up and the tplf never rest thanks for Amhara we have new flower .. in Issu case no body neg him so he can sleep another 30 years. all development industrial park and zone and public housing come after 2005 election lose meles walk up.. so we need the Amhar with limited power and u have prefect dose of negging

[Meleket]

ሓቅን ፈልፍለው በማስተጋባት፣ ዜጎች እውነታን በቅጡ ይረዱ ዘንድ፡ የእዉነት መንግሥት ይንሰራፋ ዘንድ ሳያሰልሱ የሚተጉትን ጋዜጠኞችና ፖለቲከኞች ሁሉ ፈጣሪ ኣብዝቶ ይባርካቸው!!!

ለርካሽ ፖለቲካዊ ጥቅም ሓቅን ለማድበስበስ የሚቅለሰለሱትን ‘ጋዜጠኞችና ፖለቲከኞች እንዲሁም የፖለቲካ ተንታኝ ነን ባዮችን’ ፈጣሪ ልቦና ይስጣቸው!!!

ምርቃቱን ችለንበታል ኣይደል Ethio 360 እንዲሁም ኢሳቶች ወይም ወዘተዎች?

[Zmeselo]

[Meleket]

ሰይብል ብከረባብስ ይሉ ነበር ልጆች ብዪ ሲጫወቱ፣ እኔም ሰይብል ብከረባብስ - ባንድ መልስ አራቱን ወዳጆቼ Kuasmeda, Zmeseloና Azeb Gideን እንዲሁም የመረጃ ታዳሚዎችን፡ ሓቅን በመግለጥ ኅሊናቸውን ለመኮርኮር! ከዚህ በፊት ተዚህ በፊት ለKuasmeda የመለስነውን መልስ እንደየ ግዜውና አግባቡ ዳግም እዚሁ እየዶልን!

ወዳጄ Kuasmeda ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉ እኮ በዜግነት ኢትዮጵያዊ መሆናቸውን አትርሳ። “አገራችንን ከውስጥ ሆነ ከውጭ ጠላት እንከላከል” ብለው ከነበር እንኳ ታድያ ምኑ ላይ ነው ስህተታቸው? በዚያ ቀውጢ ሰዓት ኤርትራውያን የሃይማኖት ኣባቶችም ከዚህ ጋር የሚመሳሰል ቃላት ቢናገሩ ምኑ ላይ ነው ስህተታቸው። የሃይማኖት አባቶች እንደ ሃይማኖት ኣባትነታቸው ያኔ በዚያ ቀውጢ ወቅት ሰላምና ዕርቅ ይሰፍን ዘንድ ተግተው እንደነበረ፡ ነገር ግን የነበረው አስቸጋሪ ሁኔታ እንዳልፈቀደላቸው ዓለሙ ሁሉ ያውቀዋል። ይህንን ሓቅም ጠንቅቀው ስለሚያውቁ ነው ያሁኑ ወጣት ጠቅላዪ ኣብዪ ኣሕመድ፡ ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉን የብሔራዊ የዕርቀሰላም ኮሚሽን ሰብሳቢ ያደረጓቸው።

ወዳጄ፡ ኣባ ገብረማርያም አመንቲ ሆኑ ሌሎች ካቶሊካውያን ኣባቶች ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉም ጭምር ኤርትራዉያን ከኢትዮጵያ በመባረራቸው ብቻ ሳይሆን ትርጉም በሌለው ጦርነት ምክንያት እንዳዘኑ የምናውቅ እናውቀዋለን።

ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉን እንዲህ ብለው ነበር ምናምን እያልን ለመኮነን ኣፋችንን የምናሞጠሙጥ ሰዎች በዚያ በጦርነቱ ወቅት የአሁኑ ወዳጃችን ኣብዪ ኣሕመድ ክላሽ ይዞ የጦር መገናኛ ሬዲዮኑን አንግቦ ይወጋን እንደነበረ የረሳን እንመስላለን። አሁን እኮ እየተባለ ያለው ያለፈው አልፏል፡ ዘመኑ ዘመነ መደመር ነው ወዳጄ!


ንሓቂ ምስ ገለጽና ንሓሶት ነሸቝርራ፣
ፍለጡና በሉ ንሕና ኢና ኤርትራ።

Let this be a reminder for the good Cardinal who said in his sermon in the Ethiopian Cathedral that Ethiopia needs to defend itself from internal enemies" during Eritrean expulsion from Addis. We forgive but never forget. It was Abba Gebremariam (RIP) who lamented the loss.

[Zmeselo]

The mistake is seeing civilians (Ethiopians of Eritrean descent), who contributed to Ethiopia greatly as an enemy. These were not soldiers. Are 80 year olds and small children enemies of Ethiopia, too? And, what's that judgement based upon? What have they done, to be called an enemy?

What about stealing their property, that took years of hard work for them to achieve? Is that, a Christian thing to do?

Comparing this to the Abyi Ahmed situation, is crazy. Abyi was a soldier, obeying orders. This man, is a man of authority. A Church authoritarian, should show empathy with the sufferers. Abyi recognized the unlawful behaviour of the weyane, & he promptly accepted the border ruling & its implementation with no ifs or buts. This priest supported ethnic cleansing, & he should officially apologize.

ወዳጄ፡ ኣባ ገብረማርያም አመንቲ ሆኑ ሌሎች ካቶሊካውያን ኣባቶች ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉም ጭምር ኤርትራዉያን ከኢትዮጵያ በመባረራቸው ብቻ ሳይሆን ትርጉም በሌለው ጦርነት ምክንያት እንዳዘኑ የምናውቅ እናውቀዋለን።

You say this, but you provide no evidence; like a statement or something.

ሰይብል ብከረባብስ ይሉ ነበር ልጆች ብዪ ሲጫወቱ፣ እኔም ሰይብል ብከረባብስ - ባንድ መልስ አራቱን ወዳጆቼ Kuasmeda, Zmeseloና Azeb Gideን እንዲሁም የመረጃ ታዳሚዎችን፡ ሓቅን በመግለጥ ኅሊናቸውን ለመኮርኮር! ከዚህ በፊት ተዚህ በፊት ለKuasmeda የመለስነውን መልስ እንደየ ግዜውና አግባቡ ዳግም እዚሁ እየዶልን!

ወዳጄ Kuasmeda ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉ እኮ በዜግነት ኢትዮጵያዊ መሆናቸውን አትርሳ። “አገራችንን ከውስጥ ሆነ ከውጭ ጠላት እንከላከል” ብለው ከነበር እንኳ ታድያ ምኑ ላይ ነው ስህተታቸው? በዚያ ቀውጢ ሰዓት ኤርትራውያን የሃይማኖት ኣባቶችም ከዚህ ጋር የሚመሳሰል ቃላት ቢናገሩ ምኑ ላይ ነው ስህተታቸው። የሃይማኖት አባቶች እንደ ሃይማኖት ኣባትነታቸው ያኔ በዚያ ቀውጢ ወቅት ሰላምና ዕርቅ ይሰፍን ዘንድ ተግተው እንደነበረ፡ ነገር ግን የነበረው አስቸጋሪ ሁኔታ እንዳልፈቀደላቸው ዓለሙ ሁሉ ያውቀዋል። ይህንን ሓቅም ጠንቅቀው ስለሚያውቁ ነው ያሁኑ ወጣት ጠቅላዪ ኣብዪ ኣሕመድ፡ ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉን የብሔራዊ የዕርቀሰላም ኮሚሽን ሰብሳቢ ያደረጓቸው።

ወዳጄ፡ ኣባ ገብረማርያም አመንቲ ሆኑ ሌሎች ካቶሊካውያን ኣባቶች ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉም ጭምር ኤርትራዉያን ከኢትዮጵያ በመባረራቸው ብቻ ሳይሆን ትርጉም በሌለው ጦርነት ምክንያት እንዳዘኑ የምናውቅ እናውቀዋለን።

ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉን እንዲህ ብለው ነበር ምናምን እያልን ለመኮነን ኣፋችንን የምናሞጠሙጥ ሰዎች በዚያ በጦርነቱ ወቅት የአሁኑ ወዳጃችን ኣብዪ ኣሕመድ ክላሽ ይዞ የጦር መገናኛ ሬዲዮኑን አንግቦ ይወጋን እንደነበረ የረሳን እንመስላለን። አሁን እኮ እየተባለ ያለው ያለፈው አልፏል፡ ዘመኑ ዘመነ መደመር ነው ወዳጄ!


ንሓቂ ምስ ገለጽና ንሓሶት ነሸቝርራ፣
ፍለጡና በሉ ንሕና ኢና ኤርትራ።

Let this be a reminder for the good Cardinal who said in his sermon in the Ethiopian Cathedral that Ethiopia needs to defend itself from internal enemies" during Eritrean expulsion from Addis. We forgive but never forget. It was Abba Gebremariam (RIP) who lamented the loss.

[pushkin]

We won't forget! Who are these idiots to vomit in the media about the denial of the Cardinal to Eritrea. Did they forget their barbaric acts against our society. Ermias Legesse was the main acter during the deportation of 100,000 Eritreans. Similar to that of Habtamu moron who has deep rooted hatred on Eritreans. We didn't forget all the crimes commited by the barbaric people. It is me who can feel deportation more than any other person Why are they politicizing things just because they have certain things not worked out for them to enter to Eritrea. The same as in USA or Germany or UK or what have you, Eritrea also has its own requirements and criteria’s one should meet to be able to enter Eritrea. The hardest fact that needs to be accepted is, Eritrea is a sovereign nation that protects its interest.

ሰይብል ብከረባብስ ይሉ ነበር ልጆች ብዪ ሲጫወቱ፣ እኔም ሰይብል ብከረባብስ - ባንድ መልስ አራቱን ወዳጆቼ Kuasmeda, Zmeseloና Azeb Gideን እንዲሁም የመረጃ ታዳሚዎችን፡ ሓቅን በመግለጥ ኅሊናቸውን ለመኮርኮር! ከዚህ በፊት ተዚህ በፊት ለKuasmeda የመለስነውን መልስ እንደየ ግዜውና አግባቡ ዳግም እዚሁ እየዶልን!

ወዳጄ Kuasmeda ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉ እኮ በዜግነት ኢትዮጵያዊ መሆናቸውን አትርሳ። “አገራችንን ከውስጥ ሆነ ከውጭ ጠላት እንከላከል” ብለው ከነበር እንኳ ታድያ ምኑ ላይ ነው ስህተታቸው? በዚያ ቀውጢ ሰዓት ኤርትራውያን የሃይማኖት ኣባቶችም ከዚህ ጋር የሚመሳሰል ቃላት ቢናገሩ ምኑ ላይ ነው ስህተታቸው። የሃይማኖት አባቶች እንደ ሃይማኖት ኣባትነታቸው ያኔ በዚያ ቀውጢ ወቅት ሰላምና ዕርቅ ይሰፍን ዘንድ ተግተው እንደነበረ፡ ነገር ግን የነበረው አስቸጋሪ ሁኔታ እንዳልፈቀደላቸው ዓለሙ ሁሉ ያውቀዋል። ይህንን ሓቅም ጠንቅቀው ስለሚያውቁ ነው ያሁኑ ወጣት ጠቅላዪ ኣብዪ ኣሕመድ፡ ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉን የብሔራዊ የዕርቀሰላም ኮሚሽን ሰብሳቢ ያደረጓቸው።

ወዳጄ፡ ኣባ ገብረማርያም አመንቲ ሆኑ ሌሎች ካቶሊካውያን ኣባቶች ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉም ጭምር ኤርትራዉያን ከኢትዮጵያ በመባረራቸው ብቻ ሳይሆን ትርጉም በሌለው ጦርነት ምክንያት እንዳዘኑ የምናውቅ እናውቀዋለን።

ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉን እንዲህ ብለው ነበር ምናምን እያልን ለመኮነን ኣፋችንን የምናሞጠሙጥ ሰዎች በዚያ በጦርነቱ ወቅት የአሁኑ ወዳጃችን ኣብዪ ኣሕመድ ክላሽ ይዞ የጦር መገናኛ ሬዲዮኑን አንግቦ ይወጋን እንደነበረ የረሳን እንመስላለን። አሁን እኮ እየተባለ ያለው ያለፈው አልፏል፡ ዘመኑ ዘመነ መደመር ነው ወዳጄ!


ንሓቂ ምስ ገለጽና ንሓሶት ነሸቝርራ፣
ፍለጡና በሉ ንሕና ኢና ኤርትራ።

Let this be a reminder for the good Cardinal who said in his sermon in the Ethiopian Cathedral that Ethiopia needs to defend itself from internal enemies" during Eritrean expulsion from Addis. We forgive but never forget. It was Abba Gebremariam (RIP) who lamented the loss.

[Meleket]

ወዳጃችን Zmeselo ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉም ሆኑ ዶክተር አብይ ኢትዮጵያዉያን ናቸው፣ አንተ ያገር ፍቅር እንዳለህ ሁሉ ያገር ፍቅር አላቸው። ከዚያ በተረፈ ካርዲናሉ ጦርነቱ እንዲቆም ጥረት አድርገዋል፣ ሁለቱ ተፋላሚ መንግሥታት ግን መስማማት አልቻሉም፣ እሳቸው ደግሞ መንግስትን ማስገደድ አይችሉም። ካቅማቸው በላይ ለሆነ ነገር ተጠያቂ ሊሆኑ አይችሉም። አይደለም እሳቸው ከሳቸው በላይ የነበሩት ጳጳስ ዩሃንስ ጳውሎስም ሰላም አድርጉ ብለው መክረዋል፣ ሰሚ አልተገኘም። ስለዚህ አባ ገብረማርያም አመንቴ ያዘኑትን ያህል ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉም በሁኔታው አዝነዋል፣ ይህንን የምንመሰክርላቸው ደግሞ ካቶሊካዉያኖች ነን ስለሆነም በአሥመራው የኪዳነምህረት ርእሰ አድባራት ቤተክርስትያን ኢዩቤልዩ እንዲካፈሉ ጋብዘናቸዋል፣ ነገር ግን በዘመነ መደመር ባጋጠመው ኢመደመራዊ ተግባር ምክንያት ሊሳተፉ አልቻሉም፣ ለዚህ ምስክሮች ደግሞ የዓለም ህዝብ ባጠቃላይ በተለይም የሰላም ኖቤል ተሸላሚው ወጣቱ ኢትዮጵያዊ ጠቅላዪ አብዪ ኣህመድ ናቸው። (አራት ነጥብ)

The mistake is seeing civilians (Ethiopians of Eritrean descent), who contributed to Ethiopia greatly as an enemy. These were not soldiers. Are 80 year olds and small children enemies of Ethiopia, too? And, what's that judgement based upon? What have they done, to be called an enemy?

Comparing this to the Abyi Ahmed situation, is crazy. Abyi was a soldier, obeying orders. This man, is a man of authority. A Church authoritarian, should show empathy with the sufferers.

ወዳጄ፡ ኣባ ገብረማርያም አመንቲ ሆኑ ሌሎች ካቶሊካውያን ኣባቶች ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉም ጭምር ኤርትራዉያን ከኢትዮጵያ በመባረራቸው ብቻ ሳይሆን ትርጉም በሌለው ጦርነት ምክንያት እንዳዘኑ የምናውቅ እናውቀዋለን።

You say this, but you provide no evidence; like a statement or something.

ሰይብል ብከረባብስ ይሉ ነበር ልጆች ብዪ ሲጫወቱ፣ እኔም ሰይብል ብከረባብስ - ባንድ መልስ አራቱን ወዳጆቼ Kuasmeda, Zmeseloና Azeb Gideን እንዲሁም የመረጃ ታዳሚዎችን፡ ሓቅን በመግለጥ ኅሊናቸውን ለመኮርኮር! ከዚህ በፊት ተዚህ በፊት ለKuasmeda የመለስነውን መልስ እንደየ ግዜውና አግባቡ ዳግም እዚሁ እየዶልን!

ወዳጄ Kuasmeda ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉ እኮ በዜግነት ኢትዮጵያዊ መሆናቸውን አትርሳ። “አገራችንን ከውስጥ ሆነ ከውጭ ጠላት እንከላከል” ብለው ከነበር እንኳ ታድያ ምኑ ላይ ነው ስህተታቸው? በዚያ ቀውጢ ሰዓት ኤርትራውያን የሃይማኖት ኣባቶችም ከዚህ ጋር የሚመሳሰል ቃላት ቢናገሩ ምኑ ላይ ነው ስህተታቸው። የሃይማኖት አባቶች እንደ ሃይማኖት ኣባትነታቸው ያኔ በዚያ ቀውጢ ወቅት ሰላምና ዕርቅ ይሰፍን ዘንድ ተግተው እንደነበረ፡ ነገር ግን የነበረው አስቸጋሪ ሁኔታ እንዳልፈቀደላቸው ዓለሙ ሁሉ ያውቀዋል። ይህንን ሓቅም ጠንቅቀው ስለሚያውቁ ነው ያሁኑ ወጣት ጠቅላዪ ኣብዪ ኣሕመድ፡ ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉን የብሔራዊ የዕርቀሰላም ኮሚሽን ሰብሳቢ ያደረጓቸው።

ወዳጄ፡ ኣባ ገብረማርያም አመንቲ ሆኑ ሌሎች ካቶሊካውያን ኣባቶች ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉም ጭምር ኤርትራዉያን ከኢትዮጵያ በመባረራቸው ብቻ ሳይሆን ትርጉም በሌለው ጦርነት ምክንያት እንዳዘኑ የምናውቅ እናውቀዋለን።

ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉን እንዲህ ብለው ነበር ምናምን እያልን ለመኮነን ኣፋችንን የምናሞጠሙጥ ሰዎች በዚያ በጦርነቱ ወቅት የአሁኑ ወዳጃችን ኣብዪ ኣሕመድ ክላሽ ይዞ የጦር መገናኛ ሬዲዮኑን አንግቦ ይወጋን እንደነበረ የረሳን እንመስላለን። አሁን እኮ እየተባለ ያለው ያለፈው አልፏል፡ ዘመኑ ዘመነ መደመር ነው ወዳጄ!


ንሓቂ ምስ ገለጽና ንሓሶት ነሸቝርራ፣
ፍለጡና በሉ ንሕና ኢና ኤርትራ።

Let this be a reminder for the good Cardinal who said in his sermon in the Ethiopian Cathedral that Ethiopia needs to defend itself from internal enemies" during Eritrean expulsion from Addis. We forgive but never forget. It was Abba Gebremariam (RIP) who lamented the loss.

[Zmeselo]

I know they're Ethiopians. No debate, about that. You didn't answer my question about supporting deportations, & calling the innocent: enemies of Ethiopia.

What effort specifically has he put, in order to help stop the war? Can you give a documented example, like a speech or a letter he wrote?

The war, was not about the govts. It was about, Eritrean soveriegnty & national integrity.

ወዳጃችን Zmeselo ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉም ሆኑ ዶክተር አብይ ኢትዮጵያዉያን ናቸው፣ አንተ ያገር ፍቅር እንዳለህ ሁሉ ያገር ፍቅር አላቸው። ከዚያ በተረፈ ካርዲናሉ ጦርነቱ እንዲቆም ጥረት አድርገዋል፣ ሁለቱ ተፋላሚ መንግሥታት ግን መስማማት አልቻሉም፣ እሳቸው ደግሞ መንግስትን ማስገደድ አይችሉም። ካቅማቸው በላይ ለሆነ ነገር ተጠያቂ ሊሆኑ አይችሉም። አይደለም እሳቸው ከሳቸው በላይ የነበሩት ጳጳስ ዩሃንስ ጳውሎስም ሰላም አድርጉ ብለው መክረዋል፣ ሰሚ አልተገኘም። ስለዚህ አባ ገብረማርያም አመንቴ ያዘኑትን ያህል ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉም በሁኔታው አዝነዋል፣ ይህንን የምንመሰክርላቸው ደግሞ ካቶሊካዉያኖች ነን ስለሆነም በአሥመራው የኪዳነምህረት ርእሰ አድባራት ቤተክርስትያን ኢዩቤልዩ እንዲካፈሉ ጋብዘናቸዋል፣ ነገር ግን በዘመነ መደመር ባጋጠመው ኢመደመራዊ ተግባር ምክንያት ሊሳተፉ አልቻሉም፣ ለዚህ ምስክሮች ደግሞ የዓለም ህዝብ ባጠቃላይ በተለይም የሰላም ኖቤል ተሸላሚው ወጣቱ ኢትዮጵያዊ ጠቅላዪ አብዪ ኣህመድ ናቸው። (አራት ነጥብ)

The mistake is seeing civilians (Ethiopians of Eritrean descent), who contributed to Ethiopia greatly as an enemy. These were not soldiers. Are 80 year olds and small children enemies of Ethiopia, too? And, what's that judgement based upon? What have they done, to be called an enemy?

Comparing this to the Abyi Ahmed situation, is crazy. Abyi was a soldier, obeying orders. This man, is a man of authority. A Church authoritarian, should show empathy with the sufferers.

ወዳጄ፡ ኣባ ገብረማርያም አመንቲ ሆኑ ሌሎች ካቶሊካውያን ኣባቶች ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉም ጭምር ኤርትራዉያን ከኢትዮጵያ በመባረራቸው ብቻ ሳይሆን ትርጉም በሌለው ጦርነት ምክንያት እንዳዘኑ የምናውቅ እናውቀዋለን።

You say this, but you provide no evidence; like a statement or something.

ሰይብል ብከረባብስ ይሉ ነበር ልጆች ብዪ ሲጫወቱ፣ እኔም ሰይብል ብከረባብስ - ባንድ መልስ አራቱን ወዳጆቼ Kuasmeda, Zmeseloና Azeb Gideን እንዲሁም የመረጃ ታዳሚዎችን፡ ሓቅን በመግለጥ ኅሊናቸውን ለመኮርኮር! ከዚህ በፊት ተዚህ በፊት ለKuasmeda የመለስነውን መልስ እንደየ ግዜውና አግባቡ ዳግም እዚሁ እየዶልን!

ወዳጄ Kuasmeda ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉ እኮ በዜግነት ኢትዮጵያዊ መሆናቸውን አትርሳ። “አገራችንን ከውስጥ ሆነ ከውጭ ጠላት እንከላከል” ብለው ከነበር እንኳ ታድያ ምኑ ላይ ነው ስህተታቸው? በዚያ ቀውጢ ሰዓት ኤርትራውያን የሃይማኖት ኣባቶችም ከዚህ ጋር የሚመሳሰል ቃላት ቢናገሩ ምኑ ላይ ነው ስህተታቸው። የሃይማኖት አባቶች እንደ ሃይማኖት ኣባትነታቸው ያኔ በዚያ ቀውጢ ወቅት ሰላምና ዕርቅ ይሰፍን ዘንድ ተግተው እንደነበረ፡ ነገር ግን የነበረው አስቸጋሪ ሁኔታ እንዳልፈቀደላቸው ዓለሙ ሁሉ ያውቀዋል። ይህንን ሓቅም ጠንቅቀው ስለሚያውቁ ነው ያሁኑ ወጣት ጠቅላዪ ኣብዪ ኣሕመድ፡ ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉን የብሔራዊ የዕርቀሰላም ኮሚሽን ሰብሳቢ ያደረጓቸው።

ወዳጄ፡ ኣባ ገብረማርያም አመንቲ ሆኑ ሌሎች ካቶሊካውያን ኣባቶች ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉም ጭምር ኤርትራዉያን ከኢትዮጵያ በመባረራቸው ብቻ ሳይሆን ትርጉም በሌለው ጦርነት ምክንያት እንዳዘኑ የምናውቅ እናውቀዋለን።

ብጹዕ ካርዲናሉን እንዲህ ብለው ነበር ምናምን እያልን ለመኮነን ኣፋችንን የምናሞጠሙጥ ሰዎች በዚያ በጦርነቱ ወቅት የአሁኑ ወዳጃችን ኣብዪ ኣሕመድ ክላሽ ይዞ የጦር መገናኛ ሬዲዮኑን አንግቦ ይወጋን እንደነበረ የረሳን እንመስላለን። አሁን እኮ እየተባለ ያለው ያለፈው አልፏል፡ ዘመኑ ዘመነ መደመር ነው ወዳጄ!


ንሓቂ ምስ ገለጽና ንሓሶት ነሸቝርራ፣
ፍለጡና በሉ ንሕና ኢና ኤርትራ።

Let this be a reminder for the good Cardinal who said in his sermon in the Ethiopian Cathedral that Ethiopia needs to defend itself from internal enemies" during Eritrean expulsion from Addis. We forgive but never forget. It was Abba Gebremariam (RIP) who lamented the loss.

[YAY]

Dear Meleket: Do you know the truth why the Etiyopiyan Catholic Church Official was denied to enter Asmara?

I don't know (the exact reason) why he was not allowed to go to the city of Asmara. What I know, generally, is the fact that the Government could stop him for a legitimate reason. You seem to have some knowledge about the case. You divided people discussing the issue into
(1) those who are exposing the truth: ሓቅን ፈልፍለው በማስተጋባት፣ ዜጎች እውነታን በቅጡ ይረዱ ዘንድ፡ የእዉነት መንግሥት ይንሰራፋ ዘንድ ሳያሰልሱ የሚተጉትን ጋዜጠኞችና ፖለቲከኞች;
(2) those who attempted covering up the truth: ለርካሽ ፖለቲካዊ ጥቅም ሓቅን ለማድበስበስ የሚቅለሰለሱትን ‘ጋዜጠኞችና ፖለቲከኞች

I assume you are equipped to determine which one is which. We, Eritreans, are not afraid of the truth. Please tell us what you know. If you didn't know, how would you classify people the way you did?

I am also aware that you are opposed to the Government of Eritrea's action of transferring 30 clinics that were operated by the Eritrean Catholic Church to be run by the Ministry of Health based on the defense of the Church's rights of private property. I searched the law (Proclamation 73/1995) on which the Government's action was based. I share it with you to hear your opinion further.

Eritrea: Proclamation No. 73/1995 of 1995, Proclamation to legally standardize and articulate religious institutions and activities
Publisher National Legislative Bodies / National Authorities
Publication Date 15 July 1995
Cite as Eritrea: Proclamation No. 73/1995 of 1995, Proclamation to legally standardize and articulate religious institutions and activities [], 15 July 1995, available at: https://www.refworld.org/docid/48aec42b2.html [accessed 28 February 2020]
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A Proclamation to legally standardize and articulate religious institutions and activities

- Understanding that every Eritrean national's right of freedom of thought, conscience and belief is guaranteed and respected by the law;
- Understanding that Government as a political entity, and religion as spiritual entity are separate entities;
- Believing that religious activities are carried out in accordance with and respects the law of the nation and particularly preserves the peace, stability, and unity of the people and the country;
- Believing that religious activities are not spread with seduction but with understanding and belief;
- Understanding the Government's will in regulating the relation among government and religion and religious institutions, and policies that deals with religious institutions should be formulated in accordance with the law;

Thus this Proclamation is issued to legally standardize and articulate religious institutions and activities:
Art. 1. Short title
This proclamation can be quoted as "Proclamation No 73/1995 to legally standardize and articulate religious institutions and activities"

Art. 2. Government and religion are two different entities
1. In Eritrea, government as a political party and religions and religious institutions as spiritual entities, are separate entities and government should not interfere with religious activities and religion, and religious institutions should not intervene in politics.
2. Religions and religious institutions must not undertake any political activities with or against the government by launching political campaign, preaches against government politics, or issue publications and broadcast on any political issue.
3. Religions and religious institutions shall not represent or advocate for any foreign government or political party.

Art. 3. Freedom of religion and religious entities
1. Religions and religious entities have the right to undertake spiritual teachings, preaching and launch campaigns without interfering in politics.
2. Publications issued by religious entities and religious broadcasting campaign are not regulated by the law of press.
3. Religions and religious institutions, which do not comply with the law, and interferes directly or indirectly with government politic through campaigns and mobilizations and creates public unrest or cause hostility or offence among different religions or nationals, are legally liable.

Art. 4. Foreign relations made by religion and religious institutions
1. Any relations that religions and religious institutions make with the outside world shall only be spiritual and should be free from political and narrow material gain and should not affect directly or indirectly the peace, stability, security and unity of the nation and its citizens.
2. Religions and religious activities shall only hire foreign employees, in dealing with non-spiritual activities, upon a prior notice and consent of the government.

Art. 5. Cooperation and collaboration among Government, and religion and religious activities
1. Government and religions and religious institutions can collaborate on launching campaigns on moral and ethics.
2. Government can provide supports to religions and religious activities provided that their request is justified.

Art. 6. Developmental Programs, Social Services and Aid Activities
1. Except few, all social and developmental plans and social services are the tasks of the government and the people, and if religions and religious institutions are willing and able to support developmental plans and social services, they can do so with out involving in the planning and implementation of the programs.
2. Religions and religious institutions shall not act as agents of foreign governments and government institutions in providing aids and social services.

Art. 7. Sources of religions and religious institutions income and its administration
1. All religions and religious institutions shall only have the following sources income:
a) Contribution made by the believers/followers
b) Governmental support
2. Foreign sources of income of religions and religious institutions shall be subject to scrutiny before approval by the government.
3. If the foreign income is in terms of currency, a bank account shall be opened supported by all necessary documentation and will be subjected to government audit and shall be reported to the government at the end of every fiscal year. If the foreign source is in kind there shall be a similar documentation and bank account and its use shall properly be audited and reported to the government.

Art. 8. Religion and Religious Institutions Activities
1) With out the prejudice to the provision of this Proclamation, religions and religious institutions shall only undertake legal action corresponding to their spiritual nature.
2) Religions and religious institutions shall only undertake their spiritual activities on existing local sources, offering from their congregation or followers, and shall not be dependent on external aid.
3) Religions and religious institutions shall only support and assist the poor, hand caped, orphans, needy and the vulnerable and other disadvantaged from the congregation or members of the church's offering. Other wise their assistance and support should be known to the government and if allowed shall be done/administered in accordance with the government's directives and procedures.
4) All activities of religions and religious institutions shall have transparency and accountability.

Art. 9. Establishment of a Department that regulates the activities of religions and religious institutions
1. Pursuant to this Proclamation a Department of Religious Affairs, within the Ministry of Internal Affairs, shall be established to regulate religious activities and institutions.
2. Any interaction of religions and religious institutions, with regards to the rules and regulations of this proclamation, request for support and documentation, with the government shall be made through the department cited in article 9.1 hereof.
3. The department under article 9.1, pursuant to this proclamation, regulates the implementation of this proclamation by the religions and religious institutions and report to Ministry of Internal Affairs and has the responsibility of implementing directives issued by the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
4. The department under article 9.1. has the power to issue directives and regulations for the implementation of the Proclamation.

Art. 10. Registration
In accordance with the Department of Religious Affairs directives, religions and religious institution's movable and immovable property, bank account and other documentation certifying their deposit, shall register with in two month starting from the entry in to force of this proclamation. Registration shall also be made at the beginning of the first month of each year.

Art. 11. Penalty
1. A religious institution which violates the rules and regulations of this proclamation shall be penalized by Provisional Penal Code up on confirmation of the violation.
2. If the violation committed is not other than, by means of publications and broadcasting through the media, the author of the publication or the director of the broadcast, shall pay fine of not exceeding ten thousand Nakfa (10,000.00) or will be imprisoned for two year or will be penalized by both.
3. In case of theft or breach of trust or misuse of property etc., the offender will be penalized by the provisional penal code of the government of Eritrea.

Art 12. Entry into Force
This Proclamation shall enter into force on the date of its publication in the Gazette of Eritrean Laws.
Asmara, 15 July 1995

ሓቅን ፈልፍለው በማስተጋባት፣ ዜጎች እውነታን በቅጡ ይረዱ ዘንድ፡ የእዉነት መንግሥት ይንሰራፋ ዘንድ ሳያሰልሱ የሚተጉትን ጋዜጠኞችና ፖለቲከኞች ሁሉ ፈጣሪ ኣብዝቶ ይባርካቸው!!!

ለርካሽ ፖለቲካዊ ጥቅም ሓቅን ለማድበስበስ የሚቅለሰለሱትን ‘ጋዜጠኞችና ፖለቲከኞች እንዲሁም የፖለቲካ ተንታኝ ነን ባዮችን’ ፈጣሪ ልቦና ይስጣቸው!!!

ምርቃቱን ችለንበታል ኣይደል Ethio 360 እንዲሁም ኢሳቶች ወይም ወዘተዎች?