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Re: Ethiopian Telecom implementing an ERP at the Cost of 59 Million $

Post by Ethoash » 06 Feb 2020, 14:39

DefendTheTruth wrote:
05 Feb 2020, 18:53
Ethoash wrote:
05 Feb 2020, 06:22



look at this school computer deployment they loaded the school image and software and they deliver it to their school end of story ..
When small babies start to dangle they too feel that they are just walking like the adults do.

This is not politics where many ethiopian review forumers feel comfortable and roll-out of a computer software with or without associated hardware is not the same as an implementing proje project of an enterprise software.

You are very simplistic and through that also funny, though! Keep it up!
በመጀመሪያ እንቁላል ቀስ በቀስ በእግሩ ይሄዳል ከሚለው ፈሊት ተማር ። የታባህ ገንዘብ አለህና ነው ስለ ጉጉል ስርፈር የምታወረው። መጀመሪያ ትንንሽ ሱቆችን፣ ፎቶ ቤቶችን እና የመሳስሉትን ንግዶች ኮምፒተራቸውን ከስተማይዝ በማረግ ትነሳና ስምና ዝና ስታገኝ ወድ ትልቅ ፕሮጀክት ትሄዳለህ። ለምሳሌ ብዙ በወረቀት የሚስሩ ድርጅቶች አሉ እነሱን በሙሉ ። ወደ ዲጅታል አለም ታስገባና ወረቀትን ታስቀርላቸዋለህ ይህ የሚሆነው ታድያ ከትንሽ ስትነሳ ነው።

በዚህ ላይ የኢትዬዽያም ባንክ ፣ ኤልፓም ቢሆን ምንም እናንተ በምትሉት የተወሳሰበ ፕሮጀክት አይደለም የሚያረጉት እንዳልኩት በመጋዘን ውስጥ አንድ ስርቨር አርጎ በኔት ወርክ ምስሉን እና ሶፍትዌሩን መጫን ብቻ ነው። እደግመዋለሁ አታካብዱት ።።። እንኳን ኤልፓ የአሜሪካን ታላላቅ ባንኮችም በመጋዘን ውስጥ ነው ኮምፒተራቸው ኮንፊገር ሆኖ ዲፕሎይድ የሚሆነው ምንም ልዩነት የለውም ክትንሹ ትምህርት ቤት ብለህ ያናናቅኸው ፎቶ ባላይ ኖሮ ይቆጨኝ ነበር ። እናንተ ስታወሩ ፤እኮ ለመስራት የፈለገ ሰው ተመልሷ ይተኛል ። ለሶስተኛ ግዜ አታካብዱት ።።

ዲዲቲ ስምተሀል እንዴ ተስላ የኤሌትሪክ ካፓኒው ትምህርት ቤት ያልጨረሱ የወደቁ የተንገላቱ የደከሚ በትምህርታቸው ፈ ያመጡ ግን ኮዲንግ የሚችሉ አወዳድሮ እንደሚቀጥር ። ፒችዲ ብትይዝ ባትይዝ ደንታም የላቸው ። አማራ ብቻ ነው ሁሉንም ዶክተር እያለ አዛ የሚያረገን

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Re: Ethiopian Telecom implementing an ERP at the Cost of 59 Million $

Post by DefendTheTruth » 08 Feb 2020, 10:40

opmerc,

you are welcome to tell me anything that I "didn't use many terms correctly", I think of myself as someone who is ready to learn and improve myself instead of get stubborn in the shackles of my own ignorance.

Ethoash,

please be informed the topic I am trying to discuss here is not about how computer system (collections of hardwares and softwares) is supposed to work. It is about how you can map a business process (if you understand what that means) to technical (virtual) process in the computer system itself and threeby automate the business process.

Come back and tell me if you understood what that means.

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Re: Ethiopian Telecom implementing an ERP at the Cost of 59 Million $

Post by opmerc » 09 Feb 2020, 14:47

DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Feb 2020, 10:40
opmerc,

you are welcome to tell me anything that I "didn't use many terms correctly", I think of myself as someone who is ready to learn and improve myself instead of get stubborn in the shackles of my own ignorance.
Very well. Your mention of data centers and "the cloud" for starters. Cloud computing is not some separate entity from a data center. It is an array of servers housed in a single or multiple data centers. You also referred to decentralizing when referring to a client-server based software. Decentralization is the opposite concept where servers are removed from the equation and data processing and storage is done either wholly or in fragments by the client only.

The way you referred to a thin-client setup as applicable for this situation is also wrong because it requires creating a system purpose built to run a particular function. An example would be like a point-of-sale or information-directory machine. That is unlike this situation where, as far as I'm aware, the software needs to be deployed on existing systems within multiple levels that are managing many other operations.

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Re: Ethiopian Telecom implementing an ERP at the Cost of 59 Million $

Post by DefendTheTruth » 09 Feb 2020, 15:14

opmerc wrote:
09 Feb 2020, 14:47
DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Feb 2020, 10:40
opmerc,

you are welcome to tell me anything that I "didn't use many terms correctly", I think of myself as someone who is ready to learn and improve myself instead of get stubborn in the shackles of my own ignorance.
Very well. Your mention of data centers and "the cloud" for starters. Cloud computing is not some separate entity from a data center. It is an array of servers housed in a single or multiple data centers. You also referred to decentralizing when referring to a client-server based software. Decentralization is the opposite concept where servers are removed from the equation and data processing and storage is done either wholly or in fragments by the client only.

The way you referred to a thin-client setup as applicable for this situation is also wrong because it requires creating a system purpose built to run a particular function. An example would be like a point-of-sale or information-directory machine. That is unlike this situation where, as far as I'm aware, the software needs to be deployed on existing systems within multiple levels that are managing many other operations.
Well, you claimed before I googled and came back. But I think it is better to first google and inform oneself before trying to teach others what one didn't understand well in the first place.

Now I went to google and provide you a third party view of the topic here:

Data Center:



Cloud Computing:



Pay attention specially to the set-up here and the idea behind it.

I don't remember where I used the term decentralization in the sense you described here, could you mind pointing out please?

With regard to the concept of thin-client, I am sure you don't understnad what it means. You can prove me wrong. It seems to me you tried to google but I am aware that google can't do everything for you, you have to have the basics first and after that it can assist you to settle something which is not sufficently clear to you. Specially, don't rush to google where you know you are a starter for the subject matter under consideration, just small tips from me.

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Re: Ethiopian Telecom implementing an ERP at the Cost of 59 Million $

Post by opmerc » 09 Feb 2020, 15:57

DefendTheTruth wrote:
09 Feb 2020, 15:14
opmerc wrote:
09 Feb 2020, 14:47
DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Feb 2020, 10:40
opmerc,

you are welcome to tell me anything that I "didn't use many terms correctly", I think of myself as someone who is ready to learn and improve myself instead of get stubborn in the shackles of my own ignorance.
Very well. Your mention of data centers and "the cloud" for starters. Cloud computing is not some separate entity from a data center. It is an array of servers housed in a single or multiple data centers. You also referred to decentralizing when referring to a client-server based software. Decentralization is the opposite concept where servers are removed from the equation and data processing and storage is done either wholly or in fragments by the client only.

The way you referred to a thin-client setup as applicable for this situation is also wrong because it requires creating a system purpose built to run a particular function. An example would be like a point-of-sale or information-directory machine. That is unlike this situation where, as far as I'm aware, the software needs to be deployed on existing systems within multiple levels that are managing many other operations.
Well, you claimed before I googled and came back. But I think it is better to first google and inform oneself before trying to teach others what one didn't understand well in the first place.

Now I went to google and provide you a third party view of the topic here:

Data Center:



Cloud Computing:



Pay attention specially to the set-up here and the idea behind it.

I don't remember where I used the term decentralization in the sense you described here, could you mind pointing out please?

With regard to the concept of thin-client, I am sure you don't understnad what it means. You can prove me wrong. It seems to me you tried to google but I am aware that google can't do everything for you, you have to have the basics first and after that it can assist you to settle something which is not sufficently clear to you. Specially, don't rush to google where you know you are a starter for the subject matter under consideration, just small tips from me.


I don't know what you think those pictures are supposed to illustrate but if you think a data center is a guy staring at a bunch of screens or cloud computing is a bunch of IOT connections then we can't really take this conversation very far. As far you not remembering where you used decentralized:
I hope that you were talking about an implementation that you envisaged as a deployment on a separate and different machines (decentralized), otherwise your saying about, for example, across all machines wouldn’t make any sense. Does it?
If you are convinced I don't know what I'm talking about anything else, fine. I'm not going to jump through hoops to prove otherwise to you. But there is no reason to be offended that I corrected you right after you asked to be corrected.

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Re: Ethiopian Telecom implementing an ERP at the Cost of 59 Million $

Post by DefendTheTruth » 09 Feb 2020, 16:10

opmerc wrote:
09 Feb 2020, 15:57

I don't know what you think those pictures are supposed to illustrate but if you think a data center is a guy staring at a bunch of screens or cloud computing is a bunch of IOT connections then we can't really take this conversation very far. As far you not remembering where you used decentralized:
I hope that you were talking about an implementation that you envisaged as a deployment on a separate and different machines (decentralized), otherwise your saying about, for example, across all machines wouldn’t make any sense. Does it?
If you are convinced I don't know what I'm talking about anything else, fine. I'm not going to jump through hoops to prove otherwise to you. But there is no reason to be offended that I corrected you right after you asked to be corrected.
I took those pictures from Wikipedia's entry about the two concepts (terms).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center

And

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing

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Re: Ethiopian Telecom implementing an ERP at the Cost of 59 Million $

Post by opmerc » 09 Feb 2020, 16:29

DefendTheTruth wrote:
09 Feb 2020, 16:10
opmerc wrote:
09 Feb 2020, 15:57

I don't know what you think those pictures are supposed to illustrate but if you think a data center is a guy staring at a bunch of screens or cloud computing is a bunch of IOT connections then we can't really take this conversation very far. As far you not remembering where you used decentralized:
I hope that you were talking about an implementation that you envisaged as a deployment on a separate and different machines (decentralized), otherwise your saying about, for example, across all machines wouldn’t make any sense. Does it?
If you are convinced I don't know what I'm talking about anything else, fine. I'm not going to jump through hoops to prove otherwise to you. But there is no reason to be offended that I corrected you right after you asked to be corrected.
I took those pictures from Wikipedia's entry about the two concepts (terms).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center

And

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing
Congratulations in being adept at googling your way to Wikipedia. But the fact that you went on to use those pictures as some sort of evidence tells me you have no idea what either thing is or what it would look like. So before you council people about basic level of understanding, apply it to yourself.

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Re: Ethiopian Telecom implementing an ERP at the Cost of 59 Million $

Post by DefendTheTruth » 09 Feb 2020, 16:55

opmerc wrote:
09 Feb 2020, 16:29
DefendTheTruth wrote:
09 Feb 2020, 16:10
opmerc wrote:
09 Feb 2020, 15:57

I don't know what you think those pictures are supposed to illustrate but if you think a data center is a guy staring at a bunch of screens or cloud computing is a bunch of IOT connections then we can't really take this conversation very far. As far you not remembering where you used decentralized:
I hope that you were talking about an implementation that you envisaged as a deployment on a separate and different machines (decentralized), otherwise your saying about, for example, across all machines wouldn’t make any sense. Does it?
If you are convinced I don't know what I'm talking about anything else, fine. I'm not going to jump through hoops to prove otherwise to you. But there is no reason to be offended that I corrected you right after you asked to be corrected.
I took those pictures from Wikipedia's entry about the two concepts (terms).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center

And

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing
Congratulations in being adept at googling your way to Wikipedia. But the fact that you went on to use those pictures as some sort of evidence tells me you have no idea what either thing is or what it would look like. So before you council people about basic level of understanding, apply it to yourself.
I thought you could be someone who is not so stubborn in his/her own ignorance. To tell you the truth you are far from what you wish to apear here infront of the forumers.

And I tried to treat you with some degree of consideration, hoping you could understand what some level of humility means.

A sign of humility comes from admitting that someone didn't understand well, after making a factual error or trying to appear knowledgeable what someone isn't.

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Re: Ethiopian Telecom implementing an ERP at the Cost of 59 Million $

Post by opmerc » 09 Feb 2020, 17:02

DefendTheTruth wrote:
09 Feb 2020, 16:55

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Re: Ethiopian Electric Power (EEP) Introduced an ERP at the Cost of 59 Million $

Post by DefendTheTruth » 06 Mar 2020, 14:35

If you can offer that much, 59 Million $ to be exact, then let me have my share of the slice, says SAP. We are coming, they say and Ethiopia is finally able to attract some of the giants from around the world. SAP, a German Multi-National, can't just stand and look from a side-line anymore while there is a big Cake to be shared in the room.

SAP Targets IT Contracts in Ethiopia to Drive Africa Revenue.


EEP seems to be welcoming more and more global players.

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