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Ethiopian

I hope you are not calling Somalis " camel azzS sniffer and herd people" That animal (zack) is not Somali, if you are really Oromo, respond to Misraq and Abere!

I will stay corrected ! of course am not referring for the brotherly people of Somali

[Hawzen]

when you lack self confidence you satisfy this void by siting colonial time " writers " whom nobody heard of. The time is now bro - We the Oromos are in charge of our destiny including leaving the union at will if we need to. Can you stop this train ??? I dare you . For now we gave you a home work of fighting the other animals ( the aga,ames ) and deal with the other loser Isayas !

the other loser Isayas ! ???? Please explain if you don't mind..

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

His rigid stance hurt Eritrea ! Poor diplomacy and stubbornness… that is what I was trying to refer.

For you and some other people like you, it might have felt that way in the last 20 years when TPLF was the maker and breaker of our region with the help of its white masters and I don't blame anybody who had that feeling.. But not today... PIA led Eritrea stood its ground and fought so hard with resilience and persistence and guess who is the winner today? PIA led Eritrea....Where is TPLF today which was known for its "Flexibility, great democracy and bows for its white masters" ?

I, as an Eritrean, support persistence over flexibility and resilience over bowing for white masters if the truth is on yourside. Because we are not the type of people who are ok with twisting our arms by white masters just for the sake of handouts ..You have also every right to support the other way around.. Remember white masters might feed you day to day but they will never make you strong enough to save your lives. Example:. TPLF

Having said that you are absolutely wrong. PIA aka the Lion of Nakfa aka the nightmare agames is clearly a winner whereas TPLF terrorist group is a loser....

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

[ethiopian]

when you lack self confidence you satisfy this void by siting colonial time " writers " whom nobody heard of. The time is now bro - We the Oromos are in charge of our destiny including leaving the union at will if we need to. Can you stop this train ??? I dare you . For now we gave you a home work of fighting the other animals ( the aga,ames ) and deal with the other loser Isayas !

the other loser Isayas ! ???? Please explain if you don't mind..

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

His rigid stance hurt Eritrea ! Poor diplomacy and stubbornness… that is what I was trying to refer.

For you and some other people like you, it might have felt that way in the last 20 years when TPLF was the maker and breaker of our region with the help of its white masters and I don't blame anybody who had that feeling.. But not today... PIA led Eritrea stood its ground and fought so hard with resilience and persistence and guess who is the winner today? PIA led Eritrea....Where is TPLF today which was known for its "Flexibility, great democracy and bows for its white masters" ?

I, as an Eritrean, support persistence over flexibility and resilience over bowing for white masters if the truth is on yourside. Because we are not the type of people who are ok with twisting our arms by white masters just for the sake of handouts ..You have also every right to support the other way around.. Remember white masters might feed you day to day but they will never make you strong enough to save your lives. Example:. TPLF

Having said that you are absolutely wrong. PIA aka the Lion of Nakfa aka the nightmare agames is clearly a winner whereas TPLF terrorist group is a loser....

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

Brother Hawzen probably may be I worded it wrongly and I apologize if i offend you in any form, that wasn't my intention. But we can agree to disagree respectfully. I wasn't saying that Esayas should be a total slave like the aga.ames, but he stood his ground and payed the price. In any case his contribution to the downfall of TPLF is definitley palpable and I applaud him for that.
Now let us finish these animals ( TPLF ) the cancer of our region for once and for all, after that the sky is the limit for these two brotherly people!

[Zack]

Abere again is lying and bringing fairytales and kitchen story’s The imam was born not in afar land but was born the heart land of the Somalis he was born in zeila the land where my clan hails from in the north of the Somali penunsula

Second the wife of the imam was when the imam died married his nephew emir nur another Somalis the life of the imam was well written by an Egyptian Arab scholar called shibab addin in the famous chronicle of the fatuh al habasha which means in English the conquest of the Abyssinian. Your right on one thing though the war between Adal and Abyssinia led to the invasion of gallas into adal and Abyssinia respectfully.

Forced unity we Somalis were always Muslims since the times of the prophet of Islam Muhammed saw seventh century we had no other religion but Islam so we didn’t change our religion

Dr Zackovich

this calmel azzS sniffer shouldn't have a say in our internal differences, help your herd people who doesn't know much but follow camel's anuzzS and go where ever this tall animal lead them

and what are u a pagan galla ethiopia doesnt belong to u its a multi ethnic state and somalis own the biggest land u inferiority ridden galla pagan blood socker

Dr Zackovich

[ethiopian]

Abere again is lying and bringing fairytales and kitchen story’s The imam was born not in afar land but was born the heart land of the Somalis he was born in zeila the land where my clan hails from in the north of the Somali penunsula

Second the wife of the imam was when the imam died married his nephew emir nur another Somalis the life of the imam was well written by an Egyptian Arab scholar called shibab addin in the famous chronicle of the fatuh al habasha which means in English the conquest of the Abyssinian. Your right on one thing though the war between Adal and Abyssinia led to the invasion of gallas into adal and Abyssinia respectfully.

Forced unity we Somalis were always Muslims since the times of the prophet of Islam Muhammed saw seventh century we had no other religion but Islam so we didn’t change our religion

Dr Zackovich

this calmel azzS sniffer shouldn't have a say in our internal differences, help your herd people who doesn't know much but follow camel's anuzzS and go where ever this tall animal lead them

and what are u a pagan galla ethiopia doesnt belong to u its a multi ethnic state and somalis own the biggest land u inferiority ridden galla pagan blood socker

Dr Zackovich

We the Pagan Gallas are in charge of our destiny !!! are you ? or you are still letting the day goes by while smelling that camel anu.zz ?

[Zack]

you are not a free man u are a slave a galla is a slave and have been a slaves either to amahra or to somalis
There is no free wil for you to do as u wish ur a pagan had no relgion of monothosm u believed in a sky god or what ever or trees or what ever u had neveer any political freedom and u have been ina position of power even during this time when there is a hybrad galla in menelik palace ur gallas abiye ahmed ali ur fighting him because by nature u can neveer be an in a position of power in t he 40 and fiftys u were slave of sellasie before that u were cocubines of menelik before that u were lorded over by somalis do u know what we did to the gallas in kenyas north eastern province how the somalis made them into subhumans gallas are the lowest of the lowest of what god have created,

Dr Zackovich

[kerenite]

Abyssinians,

You are good at re-writing history based on debtera lala history.

Gragn was a pure somali from Zeila. Not son of priest bla bla... That's ridicules.

Why am I concerned on gragn history? Well my country eritrea was not spared from his campaign. I tell you how..........

Once gragn won against the abyssinian king libnedingil and was chasing him all over abyssinia, he was told that the negus was hiding in a place called zban dammo in an impregnable hill located between mekelle and adigrat in present day tigray. To make the story short while I am interested on the eritrea issue,
The imam or gragn gave up on negus libnedingil and after few days march, he reached DEBARWA, located in present day eritrea and it was the main seat of the bahri negashi then.

Here the imam was welcomed with open arms, women ululating and men beating drums and blowing flutes.

Now to the main issue,

Upon his departure fom debarwa, many of his troops left behind and mingled with the inhabitants.

As we speak, in highland eritrea specifically in seraye, you find extended families such as INDA UWALE or INDA BELE or INDA HIRSI or INDA FARAH or INDA ABDI.

They all trace their ancestry to ahmed gragn soldiers. BTW those are typical somali names.

The top ethio historian ato tekletsadiq mekuria annotates similar historical events in his book titled "ye ahmed gragn werera" citing the handwritten book titled "futuhat alhabesha" and which was authored by shahabeddin, the war chronicler of gragn.

Selam

[Sadacha Macca]

you are not a free man u are a slave a galla is a slave and have been a slaves either to amahra or to somalis
There is no free wil for you to do as u wish ur a pagan had no relgion of monothosm u believed in a sky god or what ever or trees or what ever u had neveer any political freedom and u have been ina position of power even during this time when there is a hybrad galla in menelik palace ur gallas abiye ahmed ali ur fighting him because by nature u can neveer be an in a position of power in t he 40 and fiftys u were slave of sellasie before that u were cocubines of menelik before that u were lorded over by somalis do u know what we did to the gallas in kenyas north eastern province how the somalis made them into subhumans gallas are the lowest of the lowest of what god have created,

Dr Zackovich

Agame boy Zack aka fake somali, of course, you talk tough online but in real life, I guarantee you would not dare test us Oromo's, whether it be hand to hand, or even an intellectual discourse; you'd get utterly annihilated in both.
Agame's today have no right to diss others when your own people are surrounded on all sides by enemies and rolling on the ground screaming ''uuuuuu joe biydeeennn'', go feed your people who are selling their little sisters for bread, as opposed to talking tough online.

and you say 'we'', when in reality, YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO OROMO'S, and if you tried, you know the consequences very well, so stick to being a keyboard tough guy.

[Zack]

Sadacha sad creature maybe u should preach to ur own Ethiopian Galla countrymen who insulted Somalis first I just told him his history I did not insult him at all he insults Somalis on their nomadic culture as if the gallas don’t have nomads. Madness. To say the least so preach ur Galla kin first



Kerenite. Is right shire also have allot of Somalis to offsprings shire is a Somali name also


Dr Zackovich

[Sadacha Macca]

Zack the Fake Somali, who is really an Agame, even if he insulted someone, you should insult him back, instead of insulting an entire nation, especially when we do not know if he is an Oromo or not.
And I bet, for sure, you would not say these words in real life, I promise you wouldn't, because you know the consequences. That's what I am saying, Mr. keyboard jegna. An Oromo would not insult a Somali, who is our kin and neighbors, with whom we've competed with and intermarried with.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Abyssinians,

You are good at re-writing history based on debtera lala history.

Gragn was a pure somali from Zeila. Not son of priest bla bla... That's ridicules.

Why am I concerned on gragn history? Well my country eritrea was not spared from his campaign. I tell you how..........

Once gragn won against the abyssinian king libnedingil and was chasing him all over abyssinia, he was told that the negus was hiding in a place called zban dammo in an impregnable hill located between mekelle and adigrat in present day tigray. To make the story short while I am interested on the eritrea issue,
The imam or gragn gave up on negus libnedingil and after few days march, he reached DEBARWA, located in present day eritrea and it was the main seat of the bahri negashi then.

Here the imam was welcomed with open arms, women ululating and men beating drums and blowing flutes.

Now to the main issue,

Upon his departure fom debarwa, many of his troops left behind and mingled with the inhabitants.
As we speak, in highland eritrea specifically in seraye, you find extended families such as INDA UWALE or INDA BELE or INDA HIRSI or INDA FARAH or INDA ABDI.


They all trace their ancestry to ahmed gragn soldiers. BTW those are typical somali names.

The top ethio historian ato tekletsadiq mekuria annotates similar historical events in his book titled "ye ahmed gragn werera" citing the handwritten book titled "futuhat alhabesha" and which was authored by shahabeddin, the war chronicler of gragn.

Selam

Your history is totally wrong, The only people who embraced Ahmed Gragn with open arms were the jebertis while the highlanders revolted against his rule, the fact of the matter is, the assistance of Bahri Negas Yeshaq to the Portuguese army was crucial to defeat Ahmed Gragn.

His armies defeated those of shown emperor in the 1520 and pushed into Tigray in 1530, razing Axum 1533, this brought his army into conflict with the Eritrean christians led by Bahri Negasi YesHaq who resisted Ahmed attempted invasion of Seraye in 1533-1534.


His

[kerenite]

Abyssinians,

You are good at re-writing history based on debtera lala history.

Gragn was a pure somali from Zeila. Not son of priest bla bla... That's ridicules.

Why am I concerned on gragn history? Well my country eritrea was not spared from his campaign. I tell you how..........

Once gragn won against the abyssinian king libnedingil and was chasing him all over abyssinia, he was told that the negus was hiding in a place called zban dammo in an impregnable hill located between mekelle and adigrat in present day tigray. To make the story short while I am interested on the eritrea issue,
The imam or gragn gave up on negus libnedingil and after few days march, he reached DEBARWA, located in present day eritrea and it was the main seat of the bahri negashi then.

Here the imam was welcomed with open arms, women ululating and men beating drums and blowing flutes.

Now to the main issue,

Upon his departure fom debarwa, many of his troops left behind and mingled with the inhabitants.
As we speak, in highland eritrea specifically in seraye, you find extended families such as INDA UWALE or INDA BELE or INDA HIRSI or INDA FARAH or INDA ABDI.


They all trace their ancestry to ahmed gragn soldiers. BTW those are typical somali names.

The top ethio historian ato tekletsadiq mekuria annotates similar historical events in his book titled "ye ahmed gragn werera" citing the handwritten book titled "futuhat alhabesha" and which was authored by shahabeddin, the war chronicler of gragn.

Selam

Your history is totally wrong, The only people who embraced Ahmed Gragn with open arms were the jebertis while the highlanders revolted against his rule, the fact of the matter is, the assistance of Bahri Negas Yeshaq to the Portuguese army was crucial to defeat Ahmed Gragn.

His armies defeated those of shown emperor in the 1520 and pushed into Tigray in 1530, razing Axum 1533, this brought his army into conflict with the Eritrean christians led by Bahri Negasi YesHaq who resisted Ahmed attempted invasion of Seraye in 1533-1534.


His

On the contrary yours is wrong. It is based on debtera history. Gragn did not loot or burn even one church in eritrea according to his war chronicler. He returned as he came. His main enemies were the abyssinians and he was avenging the death of thousands of somalis and the burning of their mosques by the consecutive abyssinain kings.

I am surprised when you claimed the jeberti are the ones who welcomed him with open arms at Debarwa in present day eritrea.

I am dumbfounded here, the lizard looking dude chief of agazians aka tesfatsion and whom you adore claims every now and then that the jebertis are recent settlers or new-comers to eritrea.

According to you, the jebertis were in eritrea during ahmed gragn campaign and that's over half a millennium ago.

Aren't you contradicting the boss? He won't appreciate it.

[Abere]

Yes, Gragn Ahmed was the b@stard child of an infidel priest and Muslim maid to a local Sheik in Afar or Adal neighboring to Amhara Awuraja. He is often regarded as a weird giant monster person for he was sent by God to punish the people out of God's wrath. Believe me, on my own eyes in one of churches of spared from Gragn Ahmed , I observed dozens foot prints of his horse on flat natural rock surface the are covered being as wide as big living room (resulting from a fight)- very actual horse foot prints dozens, may hundreds or more. According to the people, the church being high perched on the mountain that has only one entrance, Gragn attempted to burn the church's in a rainy day ;however the Angel of God fought him back, his horse unable to move beyond the flat rocky surface area left its foot print all over the place. It is unbelievable and you will not believe me, I know. While taking both at high School and later Ethiopian history as a common course I was wondering about the mismatch of written history and what people have in their oral history. Note: oral history is the basis of actual history. Anyway, Grang was not Somali, stop lying! First, he was even better than TPLF when it comes to Ethiopiawinet; Gragn was about Ethiopian sovereignty his only issue was replacing Christianity with Islam.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Abyssinians,

You are good at re-writing history based on debtera lala history.

Gragn was a pure somali from Zeila. Not son of priest bla bla... That's ridicules.

Why am I concerned on gragn history? Well my country eritrea was not spared from his campaign. I tell you how..........

Once gragn won against the abyssinian king libnedingil and was chasing him all over abyssinia, he was told that the negus was hiding in a place called zban dammo in an impregnable hill located between mekelle and adigrat in present day tigray. To make the story short while I am interested on the eritrea issue,
The imam or gragn gave up on negus libnedingil and after few days march, he reached DEBARWA, located in present day eritrea and it was the main seat of the bahri negashi then.

Here the imam was welcomed with open arms, women ululating and men beating drums and blowing flutes.

Now to the main issue,

Upon his departure fom debarwa, many of his troops left behind and mingled with the inhabitants.
As we speak, in highland eritrea specifically in seraye, you find extended families such as INDA UWALE or INDA BELE or INDA HIRSI or INDA FARAH or INDA ABDI.


They all trace their ancestry to ahmed gragn soldiers. BTW those are typical somali names.

The top ethio historian ato tekletsadiq mekuria annotates similar historical events in his book titled "ye ahmed gragn werera" citing the handwritten book titled "futuhat alhabesha" and which was authored by shahabeddin, the war chronicler of gragn.

Selam

Your history is totally wrong, The only people who embraced Ahmed Gragn with open arms were the jebertis while the highlanders revolted against his rule, the fact of the matter is, the assistance of Bahri Negas Yeshaq to the Portuguese army was crucial to defeat Ahmed Gragn.

His armies defeated those of shown emperor in the 1520 and pushed into Tigray in 1530, razing Axum 1533, this brought his army into conflict with the Eritrean christians led by Bahri Negasi YesHaq who resisted Ahmed attempted invasion of Seraye in 1533-1534.


His

On the contrary yours is wrong. It is based on debtera history. Gragn did not loot or burn even one church in eritrea according to his war chronicler. He returned as he came. His main enemies were the abyssinians and he was avenging the death of thousands of somalis and the burning of their mosques by the consecutive abyssinain kings.

I am surprised when you claimed the jeberti are the ones who welcomed him with open arms at Debarwa in present day eritrea.

I am dumbfounded here, the lizard looking dude chief of agazians aka tesfatsion and whom you adore claims every now and then that the jebertis are recent settlers or new-comers to eritrea.

According to you, the jebertis were in eritrea during ahmed gragn campaign and that's over half a millennium ago.

Aren't you contradicting the boss? He won't appreciate it.

The lord and boss of his eminence is his conscience and nothing.

In regard to jeberti, the jeberti could have owned land because land in these area is not "Teesa" on which the land belong to the masses, land in seraye is owned by individuals feudal lords on which they could sell and exchange it as their will. In hamasien, the land belong to the masses and individuals have no right to sell or exchange the land. Foreigners are allowed to become owners of the land after they have been in the territory 40 years hence Deqi-40. Jeberti arrived in hamasien after the Italian occupantion hence recent immigrants. That is also why we say. Jeberti Adi Yebelu, Awdi.

Furthermore, you can't dismiss history which doesn't suit your narrative as Debtera history. Even the Portuguese expedition witnessed the participation of Bahri Negasi Yessaq in defeating Ahmed Garang the left handed.

[Zack]

Yes, Gragn Ahmed was the b@stard child of an infidel priest and Muslim maid to a local Sheik in Afar or Adal neighboring to Amhara Awuraja. He is often regarded as a weird giant monster person for he was sent by God to punish the people out of God's wrath. Believe me, on my own eyes in one of churches of spared from Gragn Ahmed , I observed dozens foot prints of his horse on flat natural rock surface the are covered being as wide as big living room (resulting from a fight)- very actual horse foot prints dozens, may hundreds or more. According to the people, the church being high perched on the mountain that has only one entrance, Gragn attempted to burn the church's in a rainy day ;however the Angel of God fought him back, his horse unable to move beyond the flat rocky surface area left its foot print all over the place. It is unbelievable and you will not believe me, I know. While taking both at high School and later Ethiopian history as a common course I was wondering about the mismatch of written history and what people have in their oral history. Note: oral history is the basis of actual history. Anyway, Grang was not Somali, stop lying! First, he was even better than TPLF when it comes to Ethiopiawinet; Gragn was about Ethiopian sovereignty his only issue was replacing Christianity with Islam.

there was no such thing as ethiopia sovreignty in the 16 century the imams cared littel for amhara fiefdoms in the north western part of that region
abyssinia was his arch enemies and that he showed for sure

the mam was a full blooded somali born and bred inside somalia not even in ethiopia he was born in north western somalia

in a place called zeila there are no affars in that region affars dont live in somalia

sure they were part of the adal empire but so where the hararis and others smaller ethnic groups.


Dr Zackovich

[ethiopianunity]

I think Shewa and Ambo Oromo must take power instead of those Oromos who became radical: Wellega, Bale, Arusi and probably jimma.

The Ambo and Shewa are the wisest in Ethiopia. All those now Oromiya kilil have been reduced to nothing tiday. Before they were Ethiopia's heroes, who fought along side our kings. Weyane took yye Ethiooianess out of them and reduced them village ethnics.

[ethiopianunity]

Abere again is lying and bringing fairytales and kitchen story’s The imam was born not in afar land but was born the heart land of the Somalis he was born in zeila the land where my clan hails from in the north of the Somali penunsula

Second the wife of the imam was when the imam died married his nephew emir nur another Somalis the life of the imam was well written by an Egyptian Arab scholar called shibab addin in the famous chronicle of the fatuh al habasha which means in English the conquest of the Abyssinian. Your right on one thing though the war between Adal and Abyssinia led to the invasion of gallas into adal and Abyssinia respectfully.

Forced unity we Somalis were always Muslims since the times of the prophet of Islam Muhammed saw seventh century we had no other religion but Islam so we didn’t change our religion

Dr Zackovich

this calmel azzS sniffer shouldn't have a say in our internal differences, help your herd people who doesn't know much but follow camel's anuzzS and go where ever this tall animal lead them

I think Zack is Egyptian and he is trolling in here and he is getting too many good ideas how to fight Ethiopia.

[Selam/]

Agreed as long as they aren’t radicalized by KIFFU Oromo extremists.

I think Shewa and Ambo Oromo must take power instead of those Oromos who became radical: Wellega, Bale, Arusi and probably jimma.

The Ambo and Shewa are the wisest in Ethiopia. All those now Oromiya kilil have been reduced to nothing tiday. Before they were Ethiopia's heroes, who fought along side our kings. Weyane took yye Ethiooianess out of them and reduced them village ethnics.

[ethiopianunity]

This is how the Oromos, Tigrayans, Eritreans were too weak and got brainwashed by Egyptian troll Zack, look how he insults us, this time Oromos he insults. Instead of fighting off tge Egyptian trolls deliberately dividing us, tge Eritreans, Oromos, Tigrayans rose against their own brothers and sisters, Ethiopians. Wake up, Zack the troll is prime example how Egypt controls you the Liberation Fronts. Egypt has cleansed its Christian and the country is now full of devil worshipping illuminati ISIS.

Shame on Oromo, Eritrea, Tigray for worshipping Egypt Illuminati.

[Zack]

This is how the Oromos, Tigrayans, Eritreans were too weak and got brainwashed by Egyptian troll Zack, look how he insults us, this time Oromos he insults. Instead of fighting off tge Egyptian trolls deliberately dividing us, tge Eritreans, Oromos, Tigrayans rose against their own brothers and sisters, Ethiopians. Wake up, Zack the troll is prime example how Egypt controls you the Liberation Fronts. Egypt has cleansed its Christian and the country is now full of devil worshipping illuminati ISIS.

Shame on Oromo, Eritrea, Tigray for worshipping Egypt Illuminati.

what does eritrea have to do with anything eritrea is a seperate country it has nothing to do with ethiopia
it was illegally federated with ethiopia by the un and the midget haile sellasie
you can speak for the tigrayans and the gallas and ur chauvanistic amharas


Dr Zackovich