union wrote: ↑12 Apr 2022, 20:07
That is where you go wrong. Tplf tried to go on thier own but they could not. And they will not be able to. They will have to defeat all Ethiopians of today, every ethinc, and all together. And note this is not the era of derg. The Amara and all other ethincs including the common tigreans actually know and believe every piece of land in Ethiopia belongs to them. Actually even Shabia apears to believe in that as well knowing the bads that will follow if anything historically unfair occurance were to happen in Ethiopia, it will surely repeat itself in Eritrea. Smart. Ethiopians know their history well. Anyone or new comer who wants to take their ancesstral lands maybe able to do so but over their dead body!!! They know their ancesters died to preserve it. Only tplf told you the land is only yours and the others don't have equal share, only in tplfs and shene world. And I don't advice you to do it the hard way, again, this is not the time of derg.
Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑12 Apr 2022, 17:54
union wrote: ↑12 Apr 2022, 17:13
You don't have a land of your own to be asking for independent Muslim oromo country. The land belongs to all of us and we live on it. No ethinc owns any land in Ethiopia. The moment one wants to create there will be flood of armies flying to killel oromo from all directions
Wise oromos know the land belongs to all Ethiopians and seek for peaceful alternative
Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑12 Apr 2022, 17:05
union wrote: ↑12 Apr 2022, 16:43
Sad,
All ethincs live on the land you call yours so you don't own it for yourself, rather all Ethiopians own it. It is impossible for you to create the muslim oromo country you are wishing. No ethincs will give you it for free because the land is their too. They sacrificed a lot before oromo showed up as well. So either you live peacefully with all Ethiopians accepting Ethiopians own the land together or be ready to lose it all. Every ethinc is ready for that
Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑12 Apr 2022, 14:59
Miss Rock, who is targeting Amhara's? Oromo's, who are far too busy fighting for their own survival against the Abiy regime?
By the way, at least be clear, your war is with Oromo's as a nation, not ''Oromummaa,'' which means the Oromo identity, culture, language, etc.
At least, be a man and say it with your chest, do not be a coward and try to hide it. Or, you can hide it, and people can easily still read between the lines and see what you're saying.
By the way, trust me when I say this, no amount of threats will stop Oromo's from marching towards their goal of self rule, only fools think that our goal was to put one of our traitorous sons in power, to enrichen and benefit himself. No, the goal is to enable the Oromo to rule their lands, elect their leaders and yes, have our own army as we had before Ethiopia existed and was formed as a result of Europeans arming one group of Africans against the other groups of Africans!
Oromo's do not seek others property, but we won't compromise on ours. We either compromise on having autonomous states within a loosely federated Ethiopia, or go our separate ways-the old emiye Ethiopia is gone bro, you gotta get over it.
Try another original lie, the ''Muslim Oromo'' state you guys lie of, is, and has never been a goal of ours. Hence the reason why OLF/OLA is secular and has Oromo's from all religions side by side as brothers and sisters.
Oromia's primary owners, are the ones whom make up the majority and whom the land is named after: Oromo's, after that, everyone else is more than welcome, the same for amhara, the majority are amhara, hence the reason why it's named after them, and they are the primary owners of their land.
To deny these facts, is like saying 2 plus 2 is 5. It's silly to argue otherwise.
You speak for yourself, not for ''other ethnics,'' so say that, you would fight us [and lose, terribly], if we wanted to exercise our rights to self determination, which includes, complete independence if we wish for that.
Abere,
I didn't say that, I want independence for Oromo's, but I am saying, that's out right collectively if we give up on Ethiopia ever becoming a decent place for Oromo's. Some Oromo have given up, and they have the right to, and have a reason to. Others, choose, perhaps foolishly, or naively, not to. Both could be right, but both sides have the right to have their own opinion. I am even seeing a lot of Amhara's calling for independence too, while many others would not call for that, as of yet-they too, have their rights to their opinions. Ethiopians here need to learn how to agree or disagree respectfully, without resorting to insults and curse words just because someone else has a different opinion or point of view- eshi?
Union,
Oromia primarily belongs to Oromo's, just like Amhara state primarily belongs to Amhara, Tigray to Tigrayans and etc. This is the plain truth, whether you can admit it or not. You try to go to Gondar and tell them this land isn't Amhara land, and see what they tell you, or to Mekelle and say this ain't Tigrayan, or to Semera/Samara and say this ain't Afar and so on.
Nonsense. TPLF, as short sighted and stupid as they were/are, never deceived themselves to the point that they'd consider Tigrayan independence as being viable. The only time they did consider it, is if they were able to overthrow their former teachers, shabia, and to install a puppet regime in Asmara who would then give their ''abay tigray'' sea access, but of course, this led to their downfall, or was a big reason for it along with all the enemies they made within Ethiopia.
If Tigray were Oromia, then maybe they'd have consider it, but it's not. We're two different cases, entirely. Oromia can stand on its own, even IF that maybe not what we're calling for-yet. If things get worse, our people may decide to go that route, and if they do, nothing can stop them. Your threats definitely won't deter the Oromo nation, that's for sure- and if you have to fight us, because we want to go our own way, that just proves our point that this is forced unity, an evil kind of unity; not a voluntary union-and that would just make Oromo more determined, more bold, and more willing to fight; so either way, our enemies lose.
The Amhara know that their land belongs to them, gondar, gojjam and Amhara state; anywhere else, and they're welcomed, guests, the same for us when or if, we go to their lands. Do not sit here and lie, it's pointless. I know that as an Oromo, if I go to Gojjam or Gondar or Mekelle, they may treat me well, but they will make it clear that it's their land FIRST and FOREMOST.
Simple as that.
