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ግራ የገባው የኦሮሞ ፖለቲካ

Post by DefendTheTruth » 30 Dec 2019, 15:31

ራሳቸው ጀመሩት፣ ራሳቸው መማረር ጀመሩ።

አሁን ኦሮሞን ኦሮሞ ለይ ማነሳሰት

የአመራውም እንደዝሁ ልሆን ይችላል። የሳዚናል።


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Re: ግራ የገባው የኦሮሞ ፖለቲካ

Post by Ethoash » 30 Dec 2019, 15:52

DefendTheTruth wrote:
30 Dec 2019, 15:31
ራሳቸው ጀመሩት፣ ራሳቸው መማረር ጀመሩ።

አሁን ኦሮሞን ኦሮሞ ለይ ማነሳሰት

የአመራውም እንደዝሁ ልሆን ይችላል። የሳዚናል።

i dont understand them all i hear is no body giving us kaht from morning to evening so they say they r mad as hell..

but i hear them speak Afan oromo i say thanks to oromo founding father king Meles thanks for your service your children speak their mother language ... oromo and proud ..

one time under Amhara speak afan oromia was ፋርነት ነበር today they speak it so proud i see meles in their speech thanks God for showing me this ... let my people go .. give them their kaht give the freedom give them hope give them employment give them future if we all of us want to live peacefully this youth must be taken care of try to make fun of them to try to make their demand childish demand u r asking for trouble .. i am sorry for kaht comment put that is what i heard ..

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Re: ግራ የገባው የኦሮሞ ፖለቲካ

Post by DefendTheTruth » 30 Dec 2019, 16:05

Ethoash wrote:
30 Dec 2019, 15:52
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one time under Amhara speak afan oromia was ፋርነት ነበር today they speak it so proud i see meles in their speech thanks God for showing me this ... let my people go .. give them their kaht give the freedom give them hope give them employment give them future if we all of us want to live peacefully this youth must be taken care of try to make fun of them to try to make their demand childish demand u r asking for trouble .. i am sorry for kaht comment put that is what i heard ..
give them hope is in order, I agree.

but everything has got a precondition that needs to be met for the thing to happen.

I can't sit around and demand give me job, which is a market issue. I make myself demandable on the market. If you are not in demand then no one is going to afford to give you a welfare.

you can make yourself demandable by trying to learn and get some qualification. Everybody is these days a politician, the suppy for good studnet is dwindling.

How can you give them job? From whose pocket? We are in a market economy. A considerable resource has been spent to build the university and equip it with the needed facilities, there are thousands of workers who are robbing the Coffers the state for every passing day, for these students who are not yet ready to learn something. It is a waste of resources, unfortunately.


You are given a chance to go to university and gain the needed qualification so that you can be needed on the market, now it is upto the students to do their part of the task.

Isn't it ato Trademark?

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Re: ግራ የገባው የኦሮሞ ፖለቲካ

Post by Ethoash » 30 Dec 2019, 16:39

DDT,

U R THE economy expert .. all u need something to trigger economy boom .. they have their university they have 10,000 students

that means 10,000 students must eat 3 time .. so u will need food that means u have to produce the food the student eat...

the university it self start out their own modern mix agriculture and this model would be a teaching tools for near by farmers all the students will be expert for one farmer they will advice the farmer how to farm under mix farming .. for this the farmer will pay the student if ten farmer pay them 100 brir per month the student will be getting paid ...while studying at unvieristy ..

the university also need making injara . to do that they need ምጣድ all this can be done under university and this ምጣድ can be electric ምጣድ .. the university also generate their own electricity from bio gas by keeping milk cow .. not only that if there is river near by the university also can build small hydro dam that cover the need of the village

why i am saying university university because the university have one billion birr budget they can do more .. they dont need yearly budget they could be self supporting if they start their own business .

i know u r buda u dont support the university becoming self supporting because u dont like them making money or becoming business minded ... u will say the teacher will be more in to business then teaching that is the point what the fk u r teaching them u teaching them how to make money how is that wrong teaching them by doing it.. if they r accounting they should do real accounting for small business in the village computer net work they have to provided computer net work for the village for fee.. that will teach the student how to run the business out of university if they learn hand on..

i can go and go on .. but what the point we r surrounded by buda people .. if u want our university to run as business then u need top level CEO to do that u must pay them million birr per year even more as their performance ...but buda people doesnt want to pay the CEO OF the university or head of university or dean of the university why because they will tell us Ethiopia is poor.. that is why u should pay the dean of the university million birr so that he will not loot us per year billion of birr

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Re: ግራ የገባው የኦሮሞ ፖለቲካ

Post by DefendTheTruth » 30 Dec 2019, 17:03

Ethoash wrote:
30 Dec 2019, 16:39
DDT,

i can go and go on .. but what the point we r surrounded by buda people .. if u want our university to run as business then u need top level CEO to do that u must pay them million birr per year even more as their performance ...but buda people doesnt want to pay the CEO OF the university or head of university or dean of the university why because they will tell us Ethiopia is poor.. that is why u should pay the dean of the university million birr so that he will not loot us per year billion of birr
DeDebiT,

you can go and go on but you still didn't answer the simple question I put to you: to have a working hand, you need to understand how that hand should work. Which tool do you need, which method should you use to do the job you described in your essay. In the absece of these everything is theory.

Simply because you have spent sometimes in the university doesn't mean that you have enabled yourself to qualify yourself for the task at hand, you need to attain the needed skill and skill is not only technical but also social, and psychological wezeterfa.

That is what we call qualify yourself, "cabero seyayut yemeral, siyizut yedenageral" goes the saying.

The students are not ready to qualify themselves, don't you think that should be the starting point for a reasonable discussion here?

If they are not ready to qualify themselves, then they will never get qualified at any time in the future. Aleqe deqeqe. As simple as such.

They are good at protesting as if they were there primarily to protest. Gaaffii keenya gaafachuu baane, Gaaffii keenya gaafachuu baane, Gaaffii keenya gaafachuu baane,.. without an end.

In my guess they are there primarily to get qualified and the other issues are secondary.

"Negade cimaan kan waannaan gale" (a good trader is the one which managed to save his own input /capital).

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Re: ግራ የገባው የኦሮሞ ፖለቲካ

Post by Ethoash » 30 Dec 2019, 17:21

DDT,

u r an idiot .. your starting point is not the student the student start from zero what you do is u create the best university on earth .. that mold the student .. the first thing u should do is self interest u need ceo or dean how have self interest.. today the dean doesnt care if the students protest or not protest because he make his 3000 birr per month if the student learn or not learn.. but if u make it his self interest is depend on the student learning then the dean will try hard to make the students learn... how u do that by drafting good policy..

the students must have self interest to learn if u give them free education they will abuse it but if u make it cost them to learn trust me their attitude will change / if their father and mother pay for their education by collateral their house and if u give them truth cost of the university say 50,000 birr student loan payable by working for next 2 years in Ethiopia and never to be forgiven ... then the student will have something to lose if they keep on protesting ...

another thing is the university must hear what they protesting about ? it is about politics somebody must tell them do it in your time..

i am tried of telling u the basic of self supporting university .. if the student learning about technology u make him make small technology that solve the village farmer problem and sale that project to the farmer nothing should be free...

i also told u the university can have their own milk cow , and their own poultry modern poultry where the student work and get experience ...

look this smart farmer he have poultry farming and fish farming the hen waste would be the fish food the fish waste would be fertilizer for the grass that he feed the cow.. the cow dung also can be feed for his biogas and he doesnt need cutting wood



ሚኒስተሩን ተመልከተው ሲንተባተብ ገበሬው ቀደመው በንቃትና በስራ

read what i wrote for u million time to understand it ...


for example if u teach one student about biogas he can go and build biogas for each farmer and make money ..and save the farmer from cutting wood he can teach the student how to generate small hydro power using running water there are million thing u can teach the students by making them doing it themselves and make them expert at it and make money at the same time ......

had this oromo youth have job to do after class and think what they do make them money in future do u think they will protest and wasting their time..

what i am saying look like rocket science but if one dean do it the rest will follow .. i still want the dean must get million to implement change

here is what i am talking
Injera making at Bahir Dar University





compere the above video this with Wolkite university dont think it is five star hotel



this is hand of training and small technology for the farmer

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Re: ግራ የገባው የኦሮሞ ፖለቲካ

Post by DefendTheTruth » 30 Dec 2019, 17:45

Ethoash wrote:
30 Dec 2019, 17:21
DDT,

u r an idiot .. your starting point is not the student the student start from zero what you do is u create the best university on earth .. that mold the student .. the first thing u should do is self interest u need ceo or dean how have self interest.. today the dean doesnt care if the students protest or not protest because he make his 3000 birr per month if the student learn or not learn.. but if u make it his self interest is depend on the student learning then the dean will try hard to make the students learn... how u do that by drafting good policy..

the students must have self interest to learn if u give them free education they will abuse it but if u make it cost them to learn trust me their attitude will change / if their father and mother pay for their education by collateral their house and if u give them truth cost of the university say 50,000 birr student loan payable by working for next 2 years in Ethiopia and never to be forgiven ... then the student will have something to lose if they keep on protesting ...

another thing is the university must hear what they protesting about ? it is about politics somebody must tell them do it in your time..

i am tried of telling u the basic of self supporting university .. if the student learning about technology u make him make small technology that solve the village farmer problem and sale that project to the farmer nothing should be free...

i also told u the university can have their own milk cow , and their own poultry modern poultry where the student work and get experience ...

look this smart farmer he have poultry farming and fish farming the hen waste would be the fish food the fish waste would be fertilizer for the grass that he feed the cow.. the cow dung also can be feed for his biogas and he doesnt need cutting wood

ሚኒስተሩን ተመልከተው ሲንተባተብ ገበሬው ቀደመው በንቃትና በስራ

read what i wrote for u million time to understand it ...


for example if u teach one student about biogas he can go and build biogas for each farmer and make money ..and save the farmer from cutting wood he can teach the student how to generate small hydro power using running water there are million thing u can teach the students by making them doing it themselves and make them expert at it and make money at the same time ......

had this oromo youth have job to do after class and think what they do make them money in future do u think they will protest and wasting their time..

what i am saying look like rocket science but if one dean do it the rest will follow .. i still want the dean must get million to implement change

Do you understand what you are scribbling here?

It is not about biogas, not about new technology, not about which money they should get or not get. It is all about being qualified: ask yourself what that means?

Some of them are already in job but still opted to forget their primary responsibility as an employee of the university that gave them the chance.

They are given the chance but can't make use of it. Ask yourself what these ill-guideded young men and women are lacking?

I didn't oppose their engagement in politics; my point is that they are primarily students and not politicians. In that case they have lost because the couldn't save their own input as businessman/a trader.



Can you understand what someone as a businessman who has lost his/her input is expected to do? Apply for bankruptcy. Go figure out!

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Re: ግራ የገባው የኦሮሞ ፖለቲካ

Post by Ethoash » 31 Dec 2019, 08:20

አንተ ገገማ ሰው።

ግዜህንና እወቀት ህን እኔ የምለውን ለማብጠልጠል ከምታጠፋው ለምን በኔ ላይ አትጨምርም ። እሺ እነዚህ ሰዎች ተመረው ስራ አጡ በአንተ ቤት ስራ እርሳቸው መፍጠር ነበርባቸው ። ስራ የመፍጠር ትምህርት ተምረዋል ወይ ። ወይስ የመንግስት ስራተኛ እንዲሆኑ ነው የተማሩት ።።

አንት ራሰህ ከአሜሪካ ኮለጅ ጨረሰህ ስትወጣ መጀመሪያ የሆነ ድርጅት ተቀጥረህ ነው ችሎታና ገንዘብ የምታዳብረው። ዝም ብለህ የራሰህን ሱቅ አትከፍትም ማንስ አምኖህ የአንተን አገልግሎት ይገዛል። ስለዚህ ምን እንደምትቀባጥር እወቅ።

እኔ ኦሮምኛውም ባይገባኝ ተምረው ስራ ያጡ የመስሉኛል በትርጉም እስካልረዳኸኝ እንደዚህ አርጌ ነው የምወስደው።

ታድያ ምን መልስ ስጠሁህ ዩኒቨሪስቲው በጣም ታላቅ የኢኮኖሚ እንቅሳቃሴ የሚያረግ ስለሆነ። ከተማሪዎቹ ላይ የእርሻ ውጤቶች መግዛት ይቻላል ። ድንች ሽንኩርት ተማሪዎቹ ቢያመርቱ ።። ዩኒቨሪስቲው አስር ሺህ ተማሪዎችን ስለሚመግብ የእርሻ ውጤቶችን ይፈልጋል ። በዚህ ተማሪዎቹ ከተደራጁ ከዚያም እራሳቸውን ችለው መንቀሳቀስ ይችላሉ።

ይህ ብቻ አይደለም ብዙ የስራ አይነቶች ዩኒቨሪስቲው መፍጠር እንደሚችል አሳይቸሀለሁ። ለምሳሌ ትናንሽ የግብርና ማሽኖችን ማምረት ። ዩኒቨርስቲው ትልቅ ቦታ ቢኖረው እነዚህ ማሽኖች የሚያመርትበትና ተማሪዎችንም በጥምር የሚያስለጥነበት ቦታ ቢኖረው ዩኒቨሪስቲውም ገቢ ያገኛል ማስኖቹን በመሽጥ ተማሪዎችም ገቢ ያገኛሉ ። ይህ ማሽን መሽጥ ደግሞ በዱቤ ይሆናል ባንክ ዩኒቨሪስቲው ከፍቶ ገበሬዎቹ ብደር ከባንክ መውስድ እንደቺሉ ማረግ ይችላል ። ከሉት ባንኮች ጋራ በመተባበር ለምሳሌ ኦሮሚያ ባንክ ከዩኒቨሪስቲው ጋራ በመተባበር በተማሪዎች የተሞላ ባንክ መክፈት ይችላል። በባንኩም ዙርያ ብዙ የኮምፒተር እወቀት ያላቸው መስራት ይችላሉ ማለት ነው። አረ ስንቱ

የውልቅጤን ዩኒቨሪስቲ ቪዲዬ ተመልከት ብየሀለው እንዴት ሞደርን ዩኒቨሪስቲ እንዳደረጉት ለምን ብትል ጥራት ያለው አስተዳደር ስላለው። አሁን ደግሞ የወተት ላሞችን ቢያረባ ለተማሪዎች ወተት ማቅረብም ለኖዋሪዎችም ወተት ምርት የዶሮ ምርት ሌሎችም ነገሮች ማቅረብ ይችላል። ቀላሉ ነገር የዶቦ መጋገርያ ቦት ማረግና ለከተማውም ሰዎች ለተማሪዎችም ዶቦ ማቅረብ ይቻላል። አረ ስንቱ ።

እንደነገርኩህ ቡድ አማራ እንዳንተ አይነቱ አይቻልም አይደረግም ብሎ እንዳይደረግ እንዳይስራ ጉልበቱንና ገንዘቡን ስዓቱን አሞጦ ይስራል ። አሁን አንተን ተመልከት ይህንን ሁሉ ጉልብት ህንና ግዜህን በኔ ላይ ከምታባክን የእኔን ሰህተት ለመፈለግ ለምን እኔ ባልኩት ላይ ጨምረህ ለማደግ አትጥርም ። ይቅርታ አርግልኝና ቡዳ ስለሆንክ ቀለመህን መቀየር አትችልም።

እንዳሉኩህና መረሳት የሌለበት ጉዳይ ደግሞ የደሞዝ ጉዳይ ነው አንድ % የአመት ገቢው የዩኒቨርስቲው ለደሞዝ ለአተዳደሩ መዋል አለበት ። ይህ የሚሆነው ደግሞ እራሳቸውን የሚችሉ ከሆነ ። አንድ ቢልዬን የሚያተርፉ ከሆን የዛን ፩% አስር ሚልዬን ለአስተዳደር ደሞዝ ይሆናል። ይህ ማለት አስተዳደር በርትቶ እንዲስራ ያረገዋል ። ብዙ የምለው ነበር ግን ምን ያረጋል

DefendTheTruth
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Re: ግራ የገባው የኦሮሞ ፖለቲካ

Post by DefendTheTruth » 02 Jan 2020, 14:54

There is no better proof than watching the following video:

training Oromo to defend Oromo against Oromo. Is there anything that is more weird than such a situation.


While these young Oromo men and women are being trained, some other parties (ethnic groups) in the country are already making a big alarm that they are being overtaken.

Everything is weird these days in our part of the world.


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Re: ግራ የገባው የኦሮሞ ፖለቲካ

Post by Abere » 02 Jan 2020, 16:29

ከዚህ ሁሉ ጣጣ ውስጥ አገሪቱን የዘፈቃት ቡዳ ወያኔ አብሮ መቀሌ እያከከ ነው። ከወያኔ ውርደት ያልተማረው ኦነግ ደግሞ የመጨረሻ መያዣ መጨበጫውን የበጠሰ እንሰሳ። የማያልፍ የለም ይሄም ያልፋል - ክልልም ይፈራርሳል የጎሣው ስካርም ይጠፋል። ትዕግስት ብቻ።

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