What does that mean in practical terms ? Does Tigray have the capacity to face the Ethiopian army from various directions including the north ?René Lefort,
"TPLF's leaders told me than any attempt to strangle Tigray would be a declaration of war to which Tigray could respond military. More information in a forthcomming article."
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Really?Abdelaziz wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 16:51Maxi the midget Amharay menati zer, Tigray can recapture the Army it handed to the Kahadi traitor wetazzed Meshrefet the notorious Ho'mo, No one can take away Tigrean heroism and bravery, and if and when push comes to shove,Tigreans will turn the country to a fireball and Meshrefet will be captured and decapitated. Mark my word.


What will be your final fate then if your plans and expressed prescriptions can be noted and then turned around and directly applied to you at a time when you are trying to implement your expressed vulgar evil plans?
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Re: [BREAKING] Tigray to go to war with Abiy's government
Attention PFDJites:Weyane.is.dead wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 17:06Tell that to your superiors hiding in Axum hotel in mekele sewer rat weyanay. And stop creating different aliases, we can tell its you donkoro.Eripoblikan wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 17:04Waging war is not like having a walk in the park, sir. That's my advice to every one here on this forum. Besides the Greater Horn of Africa has already witnessed too much war.sun wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 16:55
Hmm...![]()
"It takes two to dance tango" as the wise saying states. Do you think that Dr.Abiy will make tplf not to want war if the tplf decides to want and by all means make war and forget love? The only thing that Dr. Abiy can do is develop government capacity and effectively as well as sufficiently prepare for war so that when war breaks out against his government of healing and love he may deliver instant crushing defeats within the blinking of an eye. Such theory is called the theory of building for strong war in order to upkeep strong peace. Yes, sovereign is important but some times sovereignty within the current international systems is also relative since governments need scratching each others backs when only one hand may not reach all the areas on the back in order to remove all the bugs.![]()
That is also why I (Sun) have a diamond Sword which is able to cut through any living shields available together with a diamond Shield through which no existing Swords can never cut or pierce. Both of these unique armaments are at home ion case of rainy days. Preparation and readiness is the way to the democratic high way and bright day happiness.
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Re: [BREAKING] Tigray to go to war with Abiy's government
God! How did you chimps manage to stay in power for that long?Abdelaziz wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 16:51Maxi the midget Amharay menati zer, Tigray can recapture the Army it handed to the Kahadi traitor wetazzed Meshrefet the notorious Ho'mo, No one can take away Tigrean heroism and bravery, and if and when push comes to shove,Tigreans will turn the country to a fireball and Meshrefet will be captured and decapitated. Mark my word.
Let's leave aside the bravado that comes out your coward leaders who have been running their mouth hiding in that shi@t hole kilil. For the sake of argument though, let's assume your people mean what they say.........
Just recently your so-called 'intellectuals' have been heard threatening to declare a 'default state' (whatever that means) if Abiy doesn't kow-tow to their definition of Federalism. Now, if you have that option, why the need to go to war while you can simply declare with much less cost your independence?
Can you guys at least have some respect to the intelligence of your own people. The level of contempt the Ethiopian elites in general and you Agames in particular display towards your own people's intelligence is really horrifying.
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Remote control ! Can Woyane wage war against the remote control that it has lost forever ?
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Eripoblikan wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 17:04Waging war is not like having a walk in the park, sir. That's my advice to every one here on this forum. Besides the Greater Horn of Africa has already witnessed too much war.sun wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 16:55
Hmm...![]()
"It takes two to dance tango" as the wise saying states. Do you think that Dr.Abiy will make tplf not to want war if the tplf decides to want and by all means make war and forget love? The only thing that Dr. Abiy can do is develop government capacity and effectively as well as sufficiently prepare for war so that when war breaks out against his government of healing and love he may deliver instant crushing defeats within the blinking of an eye. Such theory is called the theory of building for strong war in order to upkeep strong peace. Yes, sovereign is important but some times sovereignty within the current international systems is also relative since governments need scratching each others backs when only one hand may not reach all the areas on the back in order to remove all the bugs.![]()
That is also why I (Sun) have a diamond Sword which is able to cut through any living shields available together with a diamond Shield through which no existing Swords can never cut or pierce. Both of these unique armaments are at home ion case of rainy days. Preparation and readiness is the way to the democratic high way and bright day happiness.
Eripoblikan,
You are more than right and that is why I HATE WAR more than anything in the world and even keep my Sword and Shield at home, cleaned, oiled and shining like the stars in the sky just for deterrence purposes so that I may withstand vulgar burglars. As you may have noticed the war drama and the war drumming came here through this midget calling himself Revelation since he can never exist without some funny artificial daily doses of fantasies.

Re: [BREAKING] Tigray to go to war with Abiy's government
Abiy’s biggest error So far is not addressing the two states situation in Ethiopia. Tigray is either part of Ethiopia or not (in or out), this in between status is dangerous and can lead to confusion.
Divorce or live together, but in between state is not only hurting Ethiopia, it’s impacting the neighboring countries especially Eritrea. We want to move on past the evil TPlf era, but our dictator is using TPlf as a threat and not wanting to bring change to the Eritrean people.
It’s advised to resolve the issue peaceful, but sometimes force and economic embargoes, sanctions could do the job of taming the unreasonable side.
The sooner this’s resolved either way the better for everyone involved.
Wedehankum
Divorce or live together, but in between state is not only hurting Ethiopia, it’s impacting the neighboring countries especially Eritrea. We want to move on past the evil TPlf era, but our dictator is using TPlf as a threat and not wanting to bring change to the Eritrean people.
It’s advised to resolve the issue peaceful, but sometimes force and economic embargoes, sanctions could do the job of taming the unreasonable side.
The sooner this’s resolved either way the better for everyone involved.
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How about having a parallel government, is that sustainable? Biggest errors are in the eye of the beholder. The parallel government leader, Jawar Mohammed, sends ambassadors and coordinates "activities" with TPLF which Abiy in return only pampesr and protects him. To be sure, the error list is long which ate through the biggest popular support seen in decades.Afdeyu wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:00Abiy’s biggest error So far is not addressing the two states situation in Ethiopia. Tigray is either part of Ethiopia or not (in or out), this in between status is dangerous and can lead to confusion.
Divorce or live together, but in between state is not only hurting Ethiopia, it’s impacting the neighboring countries especially Eritrea. We want to move on past the evil TPlf era, but our dictator is using TPlf as a threat and not wanting to bring change to the Eritrean people.
It’s advised to resolve the issue peaceful, but sometimes force and economic embargoes, sanctions could do the job of taming the unreasonable side.
The sooner this’s resolved either way the better for everyone involved.
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Youre acting like a child throwing tantrums in the hope that youd get what you want. When Jawar says that he can back it up too. Due to your continuous mistreatment of Oromos you've turned most of your population against you. Instead of compromising you want to claim Ethiopia as only your own. You keep alienating them and now its payback time. You can summon all your dc holdings and they wont amount to a stockpile of feathers. Unlike you jawar has a force that can reckon with the federal government and send Ethiopia into abyss. You should be grateful Abiy is working on to keep your emiye Ethiopia intact and not working hand in hand with the likes of tplf to turn into another Rwanda.
Revelations wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:37How about having a parallel government, is that sustainable? Biggest errors are in the eye of the beholder. The parallel government leader, Jawar Mohammed, sends ambassadors and coordinates "activities" with TPLF which Abiy in return only pampesr and protects him. To be sure, the error list is long which ate through the biggest popular support seen in decades.Afdeyu wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:00Abiy’s biggest error So far is not addressing the two states situation in Ethiopia. Tigray is either part of Ethiopia or not (in or out), this in between status is dangerous and can lead to confusion.
Divorce or live together, but in between state is not only hurting Ethiopia, it’s impacting the neighboring countries especially Eritrea. We want to move on past the evil TPlf era, but our dictator is using TPlf as a threat and not wanting to bring change to the Eritrean people.
It’s advised to resolve the issue peaceful, but sometimes force and economic embargoes, sanctions could do the job of taming the unreasonable side.
The sooner this’s resolved either way the better for everyone involved.
Wedehankum
Re: [BREAKING] Tigray to go to war with Abiy's government
He wasted his political capital and good will he had from his people, even though to his credit he has done a lot too.
The TPlf threat is lethal that could cripple or destroy him, the other issue like Jawar seem manageable to me in comparison to the TPlf threat... the sooner he address it, the safer his reign is...just my ten cents
Sesenayu
The TPlf threat is lethal that could cripple or destroy him, the other issue like Jawar seem manageable to me in comparison to the TPlf threat... the sooner he address it, the safer his reign is...just my ten cents
Sesenayu
Revelations wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:37How about having a parallel government, is that sustainable? Biggest errors are in the eye of the beholder. The parallel government leader, Jawar Mohammed, sends ambassadors and coordinates "activities" with TPLF which Abiy in return only pampesr and protects him. To be sure, the error list is long which ate through the biggest popular support seen in decades.Afdeyu wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:00Abiy’s biggest error So far is not addressing the two states situation in Ethiopia. Tigray is either part of Ethiopia or not (in or out), this in between status is dangerous and can lead to confusion.
Divorce or live together, but in between state is not only hurting Ethiopia, it’s impacting the neighboring countries especially Eritrea. We want to move on past the evil TPlf era, but our dictator is using TPlf as a threat and not wanting to bring change to the Eritrean people.
It’s advised to resolve the issue peaceful, but sometimes force and economic embargoes, sanctions could do the job of taming the unreasonable side.
The sooner this’s resolved either way the better for everyone involved.
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Re: [BREAKING] Tigray to go to war with Abiy's government
You only hope of that!
Sadly for you, Abiy may be floating on air not even supported by Jawar, Lemma, OLF etc ... But you have his back.
And let's not forget OroMara drama is over and dead too! He needs to treat all Ethiopians the same. No "two of the largest ethnic group" deciding the fate of everyone else while in reality it only served one group. The people have said no to tyranny by the minority or the majority or an individual! May be this is way over your head.









Weyane.is.dead wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:45Youre acting like a child throwing tantrums in the hope that youd get what you want. When Jawar says that he can back it up too. Due to your continuous mistreatment of Oromos you've turned most of your population against you. Instead of compromising you want to claim Ethiopia as only your own. You keep alienating them and now its payback time. You can summon all your dc holdings and they wont amount to a stockpile of feathers. Unlike you jawar has a force that can reckon with the federal government and send Ethiopia into abyss. You should be grateful Abiy is working on to keep your emiye Ethiopia intact and not working hand in hand with the likes of tplf to turn into another Rwanda.Revelations wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:37How about having a parallel government, is that sustainable? Biggest errors are in the eye of the beholder. The parallel government leader, Jawar Mohammed, sends ambassadors and coordinates "activities" with TPLF which Abiy in return only pampesr and protects him. To be sure, the error list is long which ate through the biggest popular support seen in decades.Afdeyu wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:00Abiy’s biggest error So far is not addressing the two states situation in Ethiopia. Tigray is either part of Ethiopia or not (in or out), this in between status is dangerous and can lead to confusion.
Divorce or live together, but in between state is not only hurting Ethiopia, it’s impacting the neighboring countries especially Eritrea. We want to move on past the evil TPlf era, but our dictator is using TPlf as a threat and not wanting to bring change to the Eritrean people.
It’s advised to resolve the issue peaceful, but sometimes force and economic embargoes, sanctions could do the job of taming the unreasonable side.
The sooner this’s resolved either way the better for everyone involved.
Wedehankum
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Re: [BREAKING] Tigray to go to war with Abiy's government
Says the phantom baladera mengist qiqiqiqi qiqiqiqi qiqiqiqi

Revelations wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:54You only hope of that!![]()
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Sadly for you, Abiy may be floating on air not even supported by Jawar, Lemma, OLF etc ... But you have his back.
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Weyane.is.dead wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:45Youre acting like a child throwing tantrums in the hope that youd get what you want. When Jawar says that he can back it up too. Due to your continuous mistreatment of Oromos you've turned most of your population against you. Instead of compromising you want to claim Ethiopia as only your own. You keep alienating them and now its payback time. You can summon all your dc holdings and they wont amount to a stockpile of feathers. Unlike you jawar has a force that can reckon with the federal government and send Ethiopia into abyss. You should be grateful Abiy is working on to keep your emiye Ethiopia intact and not working hand in hand with the likes of tplf to turn into another Rwanda.Revelations wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:37How about having a parallel government, is that sustainable? Biggest errors are in the eye of the beholder. The parallel government leader, Jawar Mohammed, sends ambassadors and coordinates "activities" with TPLF which Abiy in return only pampesr and protects him. To be sure, the error list is long which ate through the biggest popular support seen in decades.Afdeyu wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:00Abiy’s biggest error So far is not addressing the two states situation in Ethiopia. Tigray is either part of Ethiopia or not (in or out), this in between status is dangerous and can lead to confusion.
Divorce or live together, but in between state is not only hurting Ethiopia, it’s impacting the neighboring countries especially Eritrea. We want to move on past the evil TPlf era, but our dictator is using TPlf as a threat and not wanting to bring change to the Eritrean people.
It’s advised to resolve the issue peaceful, but sometimes force and economic embargoes, sanctions could do the job of taming the unreasonable side.
The sooner this’s resolved either way the better for everyone involved.
Wedehankum
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Re: [BREAKING] Tigray to go to war with Abiy's government
Don't believe that line even for a second. Abiy is scared shitless of Jawar Mohammed!
Afdeyu wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:48He wasted his political capital and good will he had from his people, even though to his credit he has done a lot too.
The TPlf threat is lethal that could cripple or destroy him, the other issue like Jawar seem manageable to me in comparison to the TPlf threat... the sooner he address it, the safer his reign is...just my ten cents
Sesenayu
Revelations wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:37How about having a parallel government, is that sustainable? Biggest errors are in the eye of the beholder. The parallel government leader, Jawar Mohammed, sends ambassadors and coordinates "activities" with TPLF which Abiy in return only pampesr and protects him. To be sure, the error list is long which ate through the biggest popular support seen in decades.Afdeyu wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:00Abiy’s biggest error So far is not addressing the two states situation in Ethiopia. Tigray is either part of Ethiopia or not (in or out), this in between status is dangerous and can lead to confusion.
Divorce or live together, but in between state is not only hurting Ethiopia, it’s impacting the neighboring countries especially Eritrea. We want to move on past the evil TPlf era, but our dictator is using TPlf as a threat and not wanting to bring change to the Eritrean people.
It’s advised to resolve the issue peaceful, but sometimes force and economic embargoes, sanctions could do the job of taming the unreasonable side.
The sooner this’s resolved either way the better for everyone involved.
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You indeed are right..Jawar can backup his bluff with actions by sending his Qerro to decapitate 80 year old bedridden man and stoning to death a mother who just gave birth to a child in her bed. I totally agree with your assessment that Jawar is the leader of the shadow government for now with probability more power than the Abiy administration. I thought you both are arguing the same point from different angles.Weyane.is.dead wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:45Youre acting like a child throwing tantrums in the hope that youd get what you want. When Jawar says that he can back it up too. Due to your continuous mistreatment of Oromos you've turned most of your population against you. Instead of compromising you want to claim Ethiopia as only your own. You keep alienating them and now its payback time. You can summon all your dc holdings and they wont amount to a stockpile of feathers. Unlike you jawar has a force that can reckon with the federal government and send Ethiopia into abyss. You should be grateful Abiy is working on to keep your emiye Ethiopia intact and not working hand in hand with the likes of tplf to turn into another Rwanda.

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No, the TPLF politicians are not willing to commit suicide. There will be no war. They might have told Rene that they will go to war. That bravado might be their way of sending message to Abiy. But it will not work.
If the TPLF politicians do not accept the federal government’s legitimacy — that it seems they do not — their bargaining power to the federal government is diminishing. They seem running wild. They seemed to have formed a foreign ministry of their own. They invited foreigners to Mekele without consulting the federal government. They have acted as if they had formed a state within a state.
But their assumption that every Tigrean should follow their order is a misguided concept.
Yes, they had raised kids who been taught that they gave birth to a country called Ethiopia. But if they believe those kids will take their Oder to fight with their Ethiopian brothers and sisters, I say they are grossly misunderstood the political situation in Ethiopia.
If the TPLF politicians do not accept the federal government’s legitimacy — that it seems they do not — their bargaining power to the federal government is diminishing. They seem running wild. They seemed to have formed a foreign ministry of their own. They invited foreigners to Mekele without consulting the federal government. They have acted as if they had formed a state within a state.
But their assumption that every Tigrean should follow their order is a misguided concept.
Yes, they had raised kids who been taught that they gave birth to a country called Ethiopia. But if they believe those kids will take their Oder to fight with their Ethiopian brothers and sisters, I say they are grossly misunderstood the political situation in Ethiopia.
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Look at this Agame pretending to be an Oromo! LOL
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Obbo tolcha,
I assure you that the people and government of Eritrea have always minded our businesses. One of our main businesses is to deal with the coward TPLF goons to get our lands back which are recognized by international boundary commission. We will never invade the least important killil Tigray and we don't have any reason to do so.
By the way, what do you mean by "This is sovereign country" ??? It looks like you are shy to call Ethiopia . How can you stand for "This is soverign country" when the fact you don't have the courage to call the name of your country...
Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF
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Revelations keeps pecking Abiy for everything. It's as if he wants him to fail. I was just trying to enlighten him on how Jawar has more leverage on Abiy than say the phantom bale adera mengist with the likes of ethio 360 in DC.
Za-Ilmaknun wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 19:10You indeed are right..Jawar can backup his bluff with actions by sending his Qerro to decapitate 80 year old bedridden man and stoning to death a mother who just gave birth to a child in her bed. I totally agree with your assessment that Jawar is the leader of the shadow government for now with probability more power than the Abiy administration. I thought you both are arguing the same point from different angles.Weyane.is.dead wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:45Youre acting like a child throwing tantrums in the hope that youd get what you want. When Jawar says that he can back it up too. Due to your continuous mistreatment of Oromos you've turned most of your population against you. Instead of compromising you want to claim Ethiopia as only your own. You keep alienating them and now its payback time. You can summon all your dc holdings and they wont amount to a stockpile of feathers. Unlike you jawar has a force that can reckon with the federal government and send Ethiopia into abyss. You should be grateful Abiy is working on to keep your emiye Ethiopia intact and not working hand in hand with the likes of tplf to turn into another Rwanda.My only concern is if taking Ethiopia to the abyss is the objective, what would Jawar end up being a leader for..?
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Rene Lefort says anything that helps him stay relevant in the heated up Ethiopian politics. All his writings so far have been geared towards painting the Abiy administration with dark brush and trying desperately to sell his imagined untouchable strength of the TPLF mafia machine. So far none of his predictions have come to pass while the new administration is slowly growing balls to confront the evil head on. The truth is TPLF won't start a direct war. If it does, it will definitely lose everything. The time ain't 1991 now and, there is no Dergu to blame all the ills of the country on. TPLF is the new dergu now.
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Re: [BREAKING] Tigray to go to war with Abiy's government
Revelations wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 19:03Don't believe that line even for a second. Abiy is scared shitless of Jawar Mohammed!
Afdeyu wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:48He wasted his political capital and good will he had from his people, even though to his credit he has done a lot too.
The TPlf threat is lethal that could cripple or destroy him, the other issue like Jawar seem manageable to me in comparison to the TPlf threat... the sooner he address it, the safer his reign is...just my ten cents
Sesenayu
Revelations wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:37How about having a parallel government, is that sustainable? Biggest errors are in the eye of the beholder. The parallel government leader, Jawar Mohammed, sends ambassadors and coordinates "activities" with TPLF which Abiy in return only pampesr and protects him. To be sure, the error list is long which ate through the biggest popular support seen in decades.Afdeyu wrote: ↑19 Dec 2019, 18:00Abiy’s biggest error So far is not addressing the two states situation in Ethiopia. Tigray is either part of Ethiopia or not (in or out), this in between status is dangerous and can lead to confusion.
Divorce or live together, but in between state is not only hurting Ethiopia, it’s impacting the neighboring countries especially Eritrea. We want to move on past the evil TPlf era, but our dictator is using TPlf as a threat and not wanting to bring change to the Eritrean people.
It’s advised to resolve the issue peaceful, but sometimes force and economic embargoes, sanctions could do the job of taming the unreasonable side.
The sooner this’s resolved either way the better for everyone involved.
Wedehankum
Dr Abyot is careful and respectful of the people who support Mr Jawar Mohammed. He doesn't want to antagonize the not insignificant section of the Oromo nation.