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Re: What is the story of the Gurage People and How did they fare from the King to the incumbent? What AI says in milder

Post by Odie » 29 Dec 2025, 15:16

Dama wrote:
29 Dec 2025, 13:57
Useless Odius farting stink from his mouth.

You left for a higher moral war, for a higher purpose of humanity. To liberate Amara. A Gurage Fano for Amara. To serve as a slave in the kitchens of Amara. To feed Fano fighters. To cook and wash for Zemene Kasse. Sorry, is this ethnic bigotry? You know best!!

Stay there. You have no place in Gurage.
Yamara baria!!!
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Re: What is the story of the Gurage People and How did they fare from the King to the incumbent? What AI says in milder

Post by Abere » 30 Dec 2025, 11:02

Thanks for the explanation. The tenant–landlord landholding relationship appears to have been almost universal in medieval Ethiopia.

The number one curse the socialist Derg brought to Ethiopia was land confiscation and the fragmentation of landholdings -damage that is now largely irreversible. The Derg effectively socialized poverty. Had there been a smooth, natural transformation of the governance system—similar to how many agrarian feudal systems evolved in the West—large landholdings could have enabled large-scale farming and higher productivity. Instead, groups like the TPLF and OLF capitalized on the situation, distributing land like candy to their cadres.

Ethiopia is totally messed up by Derg, Woyane, OLF. On top of this # 1 problem, now, fertile agricultural lands are eaten up by expansion of dusty village like towns. Where do you think PP cadres get money? Selling agricultural lands for useless so-called urban houses.


Odie wrote:
29 Dec 2025, 13:41
Abere wrote:
29 Dec 2025, 11:06
In my opinion, Gurage people uniquely suffered under TPLF-Woyane and now, OLF-Orommuma.

*** TPLF literally cleared out Gurages from Addis Ababa business centers - systematically take over and gave away to Tigres

**** OLF-PPP is getting worse. Demanded Gurages to surrender their identity and strictly observe Aba-Geda tradition - to decorate their forehead with ወሸላ.


******* What is very interesting: During Tigre-woyane, Dr. Fekadu Gedamu for instance was the pioneer
; and now under Orommuma, Biranu Nega and his followers like Huresa and Dama are active.

I am wondering if the AI even got this right:
As we know, the Gurage region has one of the highest population densities
No, AI did not get it wrong. People who grew up in the region can tell you the truth. Up until land was taken by the Socialist regime, the land was variously owned by the Nobility. Mostly Gurage themselves but aligned with the system and paying taxes from their spoil. The poor peasant was a victim of serfdom. Tax was exorbitant. The landless farmer had to till a land owned by a nobility for a small return. Don't be deceived by the density of the region which I believe was created by past wars, Oromo migration etc. Neftegna from other ethnics usually resided in bigger cities and reinforced their rules through local nobility. However, everybody at least had a country and peace which is lost now. There is a general grievance that Gurage could not achieve self-administration of their region. Culturally suppressed including its language in self-motivated way to accept the ruling class culture. Of course, good cultures of other ethnics always made it to the acceptance of the ruling class. Some Gurage dialects such as MESMES died out. Politically Gurage got alienated (by the systems as well as self-motivated redirection to business as Jews did in Europe). Why do I raise these? Because I believe Gurage has to be self-conscious about politics, the right to self-administration and preservation of useful culture (not damaging ones) and be active in the countries major issues outside of business too (I am not talking about Sodo Gurage that always favor piggy backing ruling systems to get benefit than raise major Gurage issues). I am not suggesting Gurage should dwell on what happened in the past like the Oromos and Tigrayans are doing. Gurage has to work to redeem its current and future status including the right to defend itself in all peaceful ways possible and defend itself in all ways possible when its existence is threatened. The elites come and go with their evil rules and ideology, but the poor people are the ones who carry the brunt of their evil experiment in all regions of Ethiopia. By the way, believe me, Gurage never had a right politician representing the broad interest of the grassroot people. Biramtu Nega is a person who grew up in Nazareth, basically he is just one of the Oromumas and he told Gurage he is not a Gurage. Those who tried to echo back the cry of the poor people were abused, imprisoned and killed by Abiy regime and their parties were disbanded, hunted. Huresa of course is old fa@rt EPRP, mad socialist propaganda slogan writer with flights of ideas; just forget it. He is not a Gurage too. The person called Dama is a useless good for nothing idiot Muslim mixing bigotry and toxic Islam false activism. There sure are people who deliberate on all the issues raised but as it is often Ethiopian culture, many prefer to stay silent or hate to be ethnic oriented (in favor of Ethiopian ideal for a country) as it is often a problem in Amhara society too. That position is dangerous as there is no problem in advocating for the people you came from specially for the equitable representation in the country's affairs.

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Re: What is the story of the Gurage People and How did they fare from the King to the incumbent? What AI says in milder

Post by Misraq » 24 Mar 2026, 12:57

Odie wrote:
29 Dec 2025, 00:13
Horus wrote:
28 Dec 2025, 23:33
የቀን ሰው የማታ ጅቡና ጩሎው ስለ ማያውቁት ጉራጌ ሲለጠነቁሉ :lol: :lol:
እበት ሶዶ :lol:
ኩሊና ቆርቆሮ ለቃሚ :lol:

ሂድ ኦሮሞ ኩሊ እያለ እየጠራህ ነው :lol:
ዲቃላ ሶዶ ጉራጌነት ሊስብከን ነው :lol:

ሶዶ ጉራጌ የሚባለው ጉራጌ ባይሆን መሆን አለበት:: Because it required adjective to emphasize additional behavior.
Parasite to Oromuma now and to Menelik in the past.
If you think you are a Gurage, stop swindling; stop lying; stop your garbage post and think critically when you post.
Sodo has done enough damage in the name if Gurage because you are close to Addis. Now many will hate Sodo because of your stupid posts on this forum!
:roll:

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Re: What is the story of the Gurage People and How did they fare from the King to the incumbent? What AI says in milder

Post by Odie » 24 Mar 2026, 13:30

Misraq wrote:
24 Mar 2026, 12:57
Odie wrote:
29 Dec 2025, 00:13
Horus wrote:
28 Dec 2025, 23:33
የቀን ሰው የማታ ጅቡና ጩሎው ስለ ማያውቁት ጉራጌ ሲለጠነቁሉ :lol: :lol:
እበት ሶዶ :lol:
ኩሊና ቆርቆሮ ለቃሚ :lol:

ሂድ ኦሮሞ ኩሊ እያለ እየጠራህ ነው :lol:
ዲቃላ ሶዶ ጉራጌነት ሊስብከን ነው :lol:

ሶዶ ጉራጌ የሚባለው ጉራጌ ባይሆን መሆን አለበት:: Because it required adjective to emphasize additional behavior.
Parasite to Oromuma now and to Menelik in the past.
If you think you are a Gurage, stop swindling; stop lying; stop your garbage post and think critically when you post.
Sodo has done enough damage in the name if Gurage because you are close to Addis. Now many will hate Sodo because of your stupid posts on this forum!
:roll:
ቆሞ ቀር አማራ መስልኩሽ?
An educated person makes risk benefit analysis all the time and can change own mind anytime down the road🤣

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Re: What is the story of the Gurage People and How did they fare from the King to the incumbent? What AI says in milder

Post by ethiopianunity » 24 Mar 2026, 13:46

Right wrote:
29 Dec 2025, 10:41
At the end when everything said and done, there is a big potential for two things to happen:

But first this: If Abiye was serious about Ethiopia he would have changed the ethnic constitution and abolish the Liyu Force of Killil 7 years ago. Abiye likes to copy the TPLF because deep down he believes in them. He will rule with the current Oromo domination until it is over and switch to independence when it is over, just like the TPLF.

1) PP will fall with a combination of mass revolt and FANO campaign. It will move to its base with the Oromo Liyu and either it will fight for a come back or independence. Just like the TPLF, it has its flag and its own army.

2) FANO is Ethiopia. With its brand, the 3 colours Ethiopian flag. FANO is well organized to inherit ENDF and it will do just that. Ethnic constitution will be dismantled and Liyu force will be abolished. Ethnic politics, ethnic slurs and ethnic discrimination will be outlawed. A new constitution will be drafted and we will move on.

Obviously, Oromo and Tigray will not accept the change. The prudent thing is to accommodate their request for independence and work for loose federation. Just like what Russia did. The Ethiopian federation: Oromo, Tigray and Ethiopia. In Ethiopian terms with clear boundaries in economy and politics.

Gurage should never have behaved crazy like this. They can simply stay neutral and lie low instead of burning all the bridges as if there is no tomorrow. They are now vulnerable for Oromo takeover. Shimelese is working hard to make it happen. Remember, the Oromos worked 500 years for this opportunity. Now, the Guraghies seem to accept that even they don’t nobody is gone give a f about it. Just watch. Unlike Derg and the TPLF, this administration will be the most negative consequential government.
Right,

That will be ideal to create federation above you mentioned. Giving people choice to be Ethiopian or in your ethnic barrel. However, these evil opportunists liberation fronts they get attention in the world because the world knows only a nation called Ethiopia and no one. So the ethnic organized groups domestically they work to dismantle and persecute Ethiopia, their Foreign policy they use the Ethiopia name to get economic and military and diplomacy benefit that in return use this incentives to oppress Ethiopians. They also will not allow Ethiopia region in the federation because they want to destroy it. They are following their foreign advice.

Regarding Gurage you said, l agree with you, take a look at Horus, he is getting Gurage targeted because of his senile thinking.. that is what l say, currently in fact since the down fall of tge king, Ethiopia has been targeted got worse under Tplf and now. However, Ethiopia sayers have been systematically attacked, not Horus types opportunist but others must protect themselves. Neutrality will continue to embolden anti Ethiopians Libberation Fronts. What Ethiopians can do is start from within, family, community, region in networking doing good deeds and services , that is the start.

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Re: What is the story of the Gurage People and How did they fare from the King to the incumbent? What AI says in milder

Post by Dama » 24 Mar 2026, 13:53

Misraq wrote:
28 Dec 2025, 23:28
Social: The Derg’s villagization and resettlement programs disrupted traditional rural Gurage life and community structures
ጩኽቴን አትቀሙኝ አለ ምስኪን አማራ።

We all lived in Derg era. Did Gurage went through this?. The drought affected Amhara (wello) and Tigray only. How is Gurage went through resentment program?
Fistula Misraq
Gurage experienced some drought but asat saved it from starvation. Tigrey adopted cactus which helped fare better than Amara that stuck with only teff and wheat.
Grain farming q*mata Amara and Agames were settled in Abeshge northwest region of Gurage near the Gibe River, very close to Welkite. Now it has become the breeding ground of std infector Fanos called Gurage Fanos. They strongly oppose Gurage from using and developing its language. They hate Gurage so much that they do not intermarry with Gurage.

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