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How can Ethiopian orthodox church be modernized as part of modernization of Ethiopia?

Post by Odie » 26 Feb 2026, 13:36

ONLY IDIOTS DON’T UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE MODERNIZATION OF EoC :lol:


Modernizing the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church (EOTC) as part of Ethiopia's broader modernization involves balancing its deep-rooted, 1,600-year-old traditions with contemporary, efficient, and inclusive practices. Key strategies for this modernization include digitalizing administration, reforming traditional education, adopting vernacular languages in teaching, engaging with environmental and social issues, and enhancing its role in national reconciliation.

Here is a breakdown of how the church can be modernized:

1. Institutional and Administrative Reform
Centralized & Digital Administration: Modernizing the church involves adopting modern management techniques to improve efficiency and reduce corruption. This includes digitizing records, implementing modern financial systems, and improving the organizational structure to manage its vast assets better.

Capacity Building for Clergy: Modernizing the training of priests and bishops, including studies in management, psychology, and modern theology, helps them address the needs of a 21st-century congregation.

Promoting Inclusivity: The church can update its governance to be more representative of its diverse followers, including women and youth, in decision-making processes.

2. Modernizing Education (Abənnat Təmhərt)

Integrating Modern Subjects: The traditional Church schools (Abənnat Təmhərt) should merge theological education with modern education, such as science, technology, and humanities, ensuring church education is not seen as "backward".

Documenting Indigenous Knowledge: A critical step is documenting oral traditions, liturgical music, and literature into modern formats to preserve them for future generations.

Improving Socio-Economic Status: Providing better salaries and incentives for teachers in traditional church schools to prevent "brain drain" and encourage young people to pursue church education.

3. Liturgical and Linguistic Updates
Vernacular Language Use: While Ge'ez is essential for tradition, increasing the use of Amharic and local languages (e.g., Afan Oromo, Tigrigna) in sermons and services makes the liturgy accessible to the younger generation and ethnically diverse members.

Enhancing Youth Engagement: Using Sunday schools and, particularly, digital technology (social media, apps) to make religious education interactive and relevant to young people.

4. Community and Development Focus
Environmental Protection: Leveraging the church’s role in preserving church forests and biodiversity, the EOTC can lead green initiatives in environmental sustainability.
Development and Social Aid: Expanding the work of the EOTC Development and Inter-Church Aid Commission (DICAC) to include more poverty reduction, healthcare, and educational programs.

Peacebuilding and Conflict Resolution: Leveraging the church's influence as a pillar of national identity to play a proactive role in reconciliation and conflict resolution, particularly in fragmented communities.

5. Embracing "Spiritual Modernity"
Reimagining Tradition: The church can adapt to modernity without losing its spiritual identity, creating a "spiritual modernity" where faith, reason, and social ethics are in harmony.

Digital Presence: The EOTC can utilize modern media to promote its unique, centuries-old art, music, and history to the world, turning it into a, as one source says, "museum of the country".

Key Challenges to Address
Resistance to Change: Traditional, conservative elements within the church may resist changes to old practices.
Financial Limitations: Limited funding for schools and infrastructure in rural areas.
Ethno-politics: The need to navigate internal divisions based on ethnicity and politics

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Re: How can Ethiopian orthodox church be modernized as part of modernization of Ethiopia?

Post by Misraq » 26 Feb 2026, 14:31

ፋክ ዩ ጴንጤቆስጤ። you are not a member of Orthodox. Go and reform your ጌ infested cult system. Leba Gurage.

የጴንጤቆስጤ የሳቅ መንፈስ :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: How can Ethiopian orthodox church be modernized as part of modernization of Ethiopia?

Post by Naga Tuma » 26 Feb 2026, 16:04

Odie wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 13:36
ONLY IDIOTS DON’T UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE MODERNIZATION OF EoC :lol:


Modernizing the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church (EOTC) as part of Ethiopia's broader modernization involves balancing its deep-rooted, 1,600-year-old traditions with contemporary, efficient, and inclusive practices. Key strategies for this modernization include digitalizing administration, reforming traditional education, adopting vernacular languages in teaching, engaging with environmental and social issues, and enhancing its role in national reconciliation.

Here is a breakdown of how the church can be modernized:

1. Institutional and Administrative Reform
Centralized & Digital Administration: Modernizing the church involves adopting modern management techniques to improve efficiency and reduce corruption. This includes digitizing records, implementing modern financial systems, and improving the organizational structure to manage its vast assets better.

Capacity Building for Clergy: Modernizing the training of priests and bishops, including studies in management, psychology, and modern theology, helps them address the needs of a 21st-century congregation.

Promoting Inclusivity: The church can update its governance to be more representative of its diverse followers, including women and youth, in decision-making processes.

2. Modernizing Education (Abənnat Təmhərt)

Integrating Modern Subjects: The traditional Church schools (Abənnat Təmhərt) should merge theological education with modern education, such as science, technology, and humanities, ensuring church education is not seen as "backward".

Documenting Indigenous Knowledge: A critical step is documenting oral traditions, liturgical music, and literature into modern formats to preserve them for future generations.

Improving Socio-Economic Status: Providing better salaries and incentives for teachers in traditional church schools to prevent "brain drain" and encourage young people to pursue church education.

3. Liturgical and Linguistic Updates
Vernacular Language Use: While Ge'ez is essential for tradition, increasing the use of Amharic and local languages (e.g., Afan Oromo, Tigrigna) in sermons and services makes the liturgy accessible to the younger generation and ethnically diverse members.

Enhancing Youth Engagement: Using Sunday schools and, particularly, digital technology (social media, apps) to make religious education interactive and relevant to young people.

4. Community and Development Focus
Environmental Protection: Leveraging the church’s role in preserving church forests and biodiversity, the EOTC can lead green initiatives in environmental sustainability.
Development and Social Aid: Expanding the work of the EOTC Development and Inter-Church Aid Commission (DICAC) to include more poverty reduction, healthcare, and educational programs.

Peacebuilding and Conflict Resolution: Leveraging the church's influence as a pillar of national identity to play a proactive role in reconciliation and conflict resolution, particularly in fragmented communities.

5. Embracing "Spiritual Modernity"
Reimagining Tradition: The church can adapt to modernity without losing its spiritual identity, creating a "spiritual modernity" where faith, reason, and social ethics are in harmony.

Digital Presence: The EOTC can utilize modern media to promote its unique, centuries-old art, music, and history to the world, turning it into a, as one source says, "museum of the country".

Key Challenges to Address
Resistance to Change: Traditional, conservative elements within the church may resist changes to old practices.
Financial Limitations: Limited funding for schools and infrastructure in rural areas.
Ethno-politics: The need to navigate internal divisions based on ethnicity and politics
Can you not separate your politics from spiritual matters?

እግዝኣብሔር ዬለም ብላችሁ እግዝኣብሔር የምያዉቃቸዉ ቤቶች ገባችሁ።

ሰዉ የበደለዉን ሰዉ ለካ እግዝኣብሔር ነዉ የሚክሰዉ ያለ ኣህዛብ ወደ ኣህዛብነቱ ሲመለስ ኣብረህ መታጠን ጀመርክ።
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Re: How can Ethiopian orthodox church be modernized as part of modernization of Ethiopia?

Post by Naga Tuma » 26 Feb 2026, 16:12

Selam/ wrote:
22 Feb 2026, 22:37
ከቫቲካን ሳንወጣ ስለሙሴ እናውራ።

በሲስታይን ቻፕል ውስጥ ሙሉ ታሪኩ በሚደንቅ ሁኔታ በስዕል ተከትቧል። በተለይ ደግሞ በሴንትራል ሮም በቅዱስ ጴጥሮስ ቤተ ክርስቲያን ውስጥ በሚካኤል አንጀሎ የተቀረፀው የሙሴ ግዙፍ ሃውልት ልቤን መስጦታል።
Source: ስዕል ይናገራል። የቫቲከን ስዕሎች የሚናገሩት ስለምንድነዉ?

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Re: How can Ethiopian orthodox church be modernized as part of modernization of Ethiopia?

Post by Dama » 26 Feb 2026, 16:20

The Ortho can not be modernized due to stiff resistance from Amara who benefitted from the way it was crafted to benefit them. In order to modernize it, you have to take Amara control of the EOC or decentralize it creating a fedeeation of Ethiopian Orthodox entities with their own independent powers and serving their congregation in the languages of the faithful. Meaning, Amharic's omnipotent status has to be degraded.
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Re: How can Ethiopian orthodox church be modernized as part of modernization of Ethiopia?

Post by Naga Tuma » 26 Feb 2026, 16:29

የመጀመርያዉ ሬይነሳንስ ዘመን የሙሴ ታሪክ እና የሙሴ ግዙፍ ሃዉልት ቫቲካን ዉስጥ የሚደንቁ ሆኑ ማለት በሁለተኛዉ ሬይነሳንስ ዘመን የሙሴ እዉነተኛ ታሪክ፣ የታላቁ ፈረዖ አክናተን ታሪክ፣ ኢትዮጵያ ዉስጥ የሚደንቁ እና የሚደነቁ ይሆናሉ ማለት ነዉ።

ሃዉልቱ አዲስ አበባ ሆነ፣ አክሱም ሆነ፣ ወይም ለካ ኣንተ ነህ ያለዉ ሎሬት ሰፈር ሆነ ለካ ኣንተ ነህ የተባለዉ ዕዉነተኛ ታሪክ ወጣ ማለት በዘበቶች ስትዘወር እና ስትናወጥ የኖረች ዐለም ከተናጋችበት በዕዉነት ስነስርዓት ተመልሳ በስርዓት መዞር ትቀጥላላች ማለት ይሆናል።

ቀርፋፋዎች ሁሉ ስንቶች ዘመናትን ይንቀረፈፋሉ?

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Re: How can Ethiopian orthodox church be modernized as part of modernization of Ethiopia?

Post by Naga Tuma » 26 Feb 2026, 16:35

Dama wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 16:20
The Ortho can nit be modernized due to stiff resistance from Amara who benefitted from the way it was crafted to benefit them. In order to modernize it, you have to take Amara control of the EOC or decentralize it creating a fedeeation of Ethiopian Orthodox entities with their own independent powers and serving their congregation in the languages of the faithful. Meaning, Amharic's omnipotent status has to be degraded.
Is Amharic preventing you from teaching ነምን ህን ሶበ፣ ኡርጂን ህን ሶቡ in Borana or Hailemariam Desalegn from teaching የዕዉነት ኣንድነት in Welayita or you choose to remain faithful to Butler while he chooses to remain faithful to Bruce?

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Re: How can Ethiopian orthodox church be modernized as part of modernization of Ethiopia?

Post by Right » 26 Feb 2026, 17:01

Two Guraghies, one a self claimed PENTE the other a radical Muslim discussing about the EoC.
The root cause of their problem is inferiority complex and comparing to others.

Be proud of who you are and move on. I am a Geist and live in a Christian dominated society. I never cared for others religion and they don’t care about my beliefs.
Your faith is your individual beliefs.

A religion war starts when you start competing and try to impose yours onto others
The Orthodox faith is for the Orthodox believers, if you don’t like it then don’t practice it.

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Re: How can Ethiopian orthodox church be modernized as part of modernization of Ethiopia?

Post by Naga Tuma » 26 Feb 2026, 17:09

Right wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 17:01
Two Guraghies, one a self claimed PENTE the other a radical Muslim discussing about the EoC.
The root cause of their problem is inferiority complex and comparing to others.

Be proud of who you are and move on. I am a Geist and live in a Christian dominated society. I never cared for others religion and they don’t care about my beliefs.
Your faith is your individual beliefs.

A religion war starts when you start competing and try to impose yours onto others
The Orthodox faith is for the Orthodox believers, if you don’t like it then don’t practice it.
Which Christian dominated society teaches you to lie like you did here saying a participant who is not a Muslim is a radical Muslim?

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Re: How can Ethiopian orthodox church be modernized as part of modernization of Ethiopia?

Post by Misraq » 26 Feb 2026, 17:45

Right wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 17:01
Two Guraghies, one a self claimed PENTE the other a radical Muslim discussing about the EoC.
The root cause of their problem is inferiority complex and comparing to others.

Be proud of who you are and move on. I am a Geist and live in a Christian dominated society. I never cared for others religion and they don’t care about my beliefs.
Your faith is your individual beliefs.

A religion war starts when you start competing and try to impose yours onto others
The Orthodox faith is for the Orthodox believers, if you don’t like it then don’t practice it.
Welcome to the Listro nationalism where shoeshining Amhara is highly regretted and insult anything Amhara is seen as a remedy to past career

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Re: How can Ethiopian orthodox church be modernized as part of modernization of Ethiopia?

Post by Dama » 26 Feb 2026, 17:46

Right wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 17:01
Two Guraghies, one a self claimed PENTE the other a radical Muslim discussing about the EoC.
The root cause of their problem is inferiority complex and comparing to others.

Be proud of who you are and move on. I am a Geist and live in a Christian dominated society. I never cared for others religion and they don’t care about my beliefs.
Your faith is your individual beliefs.

A religion war starts when you start competing and try to impose yours onto others
The Orthodox faith is for the Orthodox believers, if you don’t like it then don’t practice it.
Ortho has been a malaise, a cancer on Ethiopia. It's a forced religion by state and by conquest. Until the late 1940s, when after Americans and British liberated Ethiopia from Italy, Ortho opposed not only reforming itself, it denied Ethiopians the choice of Catholicism and protestantism because it's inferior to them. Kept itself for inferior Amara that profuced them.
It has aggressed on Muslim kingdoms, genocided them, enslaved them, made the rest landless peasants who were forced to pay for the land that used to be theirs and and theirs ancestors from time immorial.
Ortho is a religion of genocides and crimes against humanity. It should not have existed Ethiopua under my watch or any reasonable Ethiopian.
Q*mataw Gudella, do not insult the Gurage people. Your arse will be safe from me.

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Re: How can Ethiopian orthodox church be modernized as part of modernization of Ethiopia?

Post by Odie » 26 Feb 2026, 18:49

Dama wrote:
26 Feb 2026, 16:20
The Ortho can not be modernized due to stiff resistance from Amara who benefitted from the way it was crafted to benefit them. In order to modernize it, you have to take Amara control of the EOC or decentralize it creating a fedeeation of Ethiopian Orthodox entities with their own independent powers and serving their congregation in the languages of the faithful. Meaning, Amharic's omnipotent status has to be degraded.
I strongly agree with ya. አገሪቱን እንደቋንጣ ላሊበላ ውስጥ እንዳደረቁት ሬሳና እንደ ገዳማቸው አርገው ነው ለ 100 አመት ያቆይዋት:: ውድቀታቸው ድህነታቸው በፈረንጅ እያመካኙ:: ቆምጬ is change resistant and has no hope. That is its IQ level.
UNESCO ወስዶ ቆምጬን ማስመዝገብና ለቱሪስት ማስቀመጥ ነው::
ቆምጬ should not get a free pass in the Ethnic regions and should modernize or risk being expelled. That is easy to do. Many in EoC know the time has arrived for a change and there is a big divide or fracture line. ቆምጬ 44 ታቦትማ እያስወጣ ስው ስራ እያስፈታ ህፃናት ቆሎ ትምህርት ቤት ውስጥ እያደነቆረ የሌለ ትንግርት እያወራ ህዝብ እያሳተ መቀጠል መቻል የለበትም::

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Re: How can Ethiopian orthodox church be modernized as part of modernization of Ethiopia?

Post by Right » 26 Feb 2026, 19:34

The two midget Guraghies,
I have done my job. You are damaged goods. I exposed and broke your back.
As I said, you are not going to impress me until you start respecting yourself. For now I will restrain myself and pray for you to overcome hatred.

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