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[Misraq]

ከጴንጤ ጀርባ የኦሮሞ ብልፅግና እና የደቡብ ብሔርተኞችም እንዳሉበት ግልፅ ነው። አላማቸው ወንጌል መስበክን ሳይሆን predominantly Orthodox የሆነውን ሰሜኑን እምነትና identity ማዛባትም ነው ሲል ደባውን በሌላ አንግል ፓስተር ዬናስ አስቀምጦታል

https://www.youtube.com/live/lRbEUqhQug ... 1lZkVO19p9

[Odie]

I don’t even think this dumb coin harvesting foul mouth YouTuber knows what is a doctrine :lol:
Most christian groups except Jehova witness and only Jesus have on average almost similar doctrine except the view the persona of Jesus. They all believe on trinity. The remaining difference is in traditions added like tabot, praying for the dead etc, interpretation of the bible and numbers of bible books they hold. Those that believe in the book of maccabean such as EOC and others pray for the dead and other things. The more bible books you have, which is about 88, the largest collection, the more likely to introduce artifact in christian practice.
Of course the protestant sect is now plagued by the prosperity gospel, selling oils and water which all are wrong :lol:
Unfortunately christianity which was supposed to be politics free is used and abused twisted by politicians to sustain their power!

[Misraq]

.....praying for the dead etc, interpretation of the bible and numbers of bible books they hold. Those that believe in the book of maccabean such as EOC and others pray for the dead and other things.

That is why we say Pentecostals are shallow and don't even know the bible. By the way, the Lutheran church is with us on this subject

How did Abraham listened to this man?

As to the way you called the saintly "dead". They are not dead according to the bible.

[Odie]

Owening 25 something extrabooks which others concluded unspiritual does not make you more knowledgeable but obviously led you to a lot of unbiblical rituals and traditions. That is the source of ደብተራ too!
Also, ordinary EoC member does not read a bible. All you have to do is comit all sins and crimes and go to your ነብስ አባት which could be a ስካራም priest not necessarly always a good one :lol:
Also the books are read in Geez as combobulator to the ordinary soul which is what the rulers wanted.
EoC has to preach salvation by Jesus, in all languages for ordinary people to understand it and have them the bible to read and understand for themselves and cut the non-spiritual traditions! They struggle with that because knowing people ask questions!
The book of henock is a book demons and fallen angels which is not considered non canonical and opens people’s eye to angelic and demonic world. Referenced only in only few places in the bible it is not accepted in all christianity as cannon except EoC! The priests have to read all that book!

[Misraq]

I grabbed your peanut sized two balls when I posted about the living and how they listen, by the grace of God. . ግልብ ጴንጤ Reply to that if you have perspective than the usual political toned propoganda.

You have nowhere to escape. I dare you respond to that subject

[Odie]

Nope
I don’t have that enabled pride of you inside me to cry when touched. Because I know christianity is a humbler!
I watched none of your videos for a reason! Remember I am not defending any sect. Neither am hating an orthodox. It may hurt but what I said is the truth.
Since EoC is affecting al most everybody in the country family and society it has to teach the people the right thing. People should be able to read the bible written in simple language. They have to hear the gospel right not mixed with junk we had for centuries! Even catholic has changed its stand making jesus the only interceded. EoC has to convene a meeting of its ሊቃውንትand change things.
It has to soul search and cut down non-biblical practices and teachings. Christianity should not be the property of any ethnic and some one should not cry whenever one spoke about EoC which is not a property to be defended by a northerner alone or Amhara or Tigre alone for that matter. It is a religion from Axumite empire time and practiced by~ 45% of ethiopians although the northerners are largely of EoC group for various reasons I don’t want to raise here.

[Misraq]

I grabbed your peanut sized two balls & you have nowhere to escape. You are such an embarrassment for your cult system.Don't repeat your tantrum. Respond to the biblical verses I posted that shows

1) Abraham in heaven listened to the voice of the man living on earth. (Luke 16:23-28)

2) Abraham spoke of Moses And Prophets who came 500+ years after him showing clear knowledge of people who came & left after him. (Luke 16:23-28)

3) a verse that says the saints are living. Not dead (Romans 6:10-11)

Again, people are watching you and they are learning how shallow & satanic Pentecostals are. Defend your faith

And below, the bible clearly shows that the saintlyhood and the martyrs such as Saint George do pray in the heavens and their prayers is heard (Revelations 6:9-14). Everything EOC teaches is biblical..

And of course as a satanic Pentecostal, you will have no answer to this hard fact.

[Odie]

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WOGEGNA and FROZEN IN TIME AND HISTORY
Can you keep that in your region? TERET-TERET YELAM-BERET

You forgot a Hebrew verse that talks about we have clouding witnesses in heaven, meaning they all can intercede for ya . They also mention that verse for the intercession by martyrs or angels You forgot the discussion by Jesus. Your spiritual father has lied to you again! The situations you mentioned are special and cannot be generalized to suit others. It is like corrupting the incorruptible God. You kill, adulterate, commit a crime, die and you still believe can go to heaven with the help of angels and martyrs, or priests praying for you on your body with incense? Once you are dead, you are dead. No one can save you from the after-death judgment unless you have been saved before death. Here is the truth: Luke 16:19-31, which tells the story of the rich man and Lazarus, highlights the finality of one's state after death, indicating that the dead cannot change their location (paradise or torment). The passage describes a great gulf that separates them, suggesting that prayer for the dead cannot alter their eternal fate.
Key insights from Luke 16:19-31:
Finality of State: The passage illustrates that once a person dies, their destiny is fixed. The rich man in torment could not move to comfort.
Immediate Afterlife: The story offers a glimpse into the immediate state of the soul after death, where the righteous are comforted and the unrighteous are in torment.
No Post-Death Change: The request of the rich man for Lazarus to help him was denied, demonstrating that prayers or actions after death cannot change a person's condition, say GotQuestions.org.
Warning for the Living: The narrative serves as a warning to the living to accept God's message during their lifetime, as those who reject it will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dea

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HERE THE VERSE FOR ANY INTERESTED TO READ: Luke 16:19-31
19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

WARNING: YOU NEED TO BELIVE IN JESUS AND READ, LIVE YOUR BIBLE BEFORE YOU DIE. THE REST IS A LIE

LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCES OF EACH SECT OF CHRISTIANITY BY NUMBER OF BIBLE BOOKS, PRAYER FOR DEAD ETC FOR REFERENCE. EoC carries unnecessary garbage that requires a lot of shading that unnecessarily misleads its followers

Orthodox and Christian denominations differ significantly in canon size and traditions. The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church has the largest Bible (81 books), while Greek/Russian Orthodox typically use ~75-76, Catholics 73, and Protestants 66. Prayer for the dead is practiced by Orthodox/Catholics, while 40-day fasting is central to Orthodox/Coptic tradition.

Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church (Oriental Orthodox)

Bible Books: 81 (broadest canon).
40-Day Fasting: Yes, observes Tsome Nebiyat (Prophets' Fast) and others, often totaling over 40 days.
Prayer for Dead: Yes, practiced.
Angel Worship: Veneration of angels is central; they do not worship them as gods, but honor them.
Carries Talbot: The Tewahedo tradition uses a "Tabot" (replica of the Ark of the Covenant) in its altars, which is fundamental to their, not just the Ethiopian, worship.

Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria (Oriental Orthodox)

Bible Books: 75.
40-Day Fasting: Yes, the Holy Fast (Lent) is over 40 days, plus others.
Prayer for Dead: Yes, practiced.
Angel Worship: Veneration of angels (e.g., St. Michael) is high.
Carries Talbot: Yes, the Tabot is used in liturgical practice.

Russian & Greek Orthodox (Eastern Orthodox)

Bible Books: Typically 75-76 (includes Deuterocanonical books and often 3 Maccabees/Psalm 151).
40-Day Fasting: Yes, Great Lent is 40 days.
Prayer for Dead: Yes, extensively practiced.
Angel Worship: High veneration of angels.
Carries Talbot: Generally, they use an Antimension on the altar, rather than the Ethiopian/Coptic Tabot.

Roman Catholic Church

Bible Books: 73 (contains 7 Deuterocanonical books in the Old Testament).
40-Day Fasting: Yes, Lent is observed for 40 days.
Prayer for Dead: Yes, for souls in Purgatory.
Angel Worship: Veneration (dulia) of angels is allowed, not worship (latria).
Carries Talbot: No.

Protestant Churches

Bible Books: 66.
40-Day Fasting: Often no formal 40-day liturgical fast, though voluntary fasting occurs.
Prayer for Dead: Generally not practiced; rejected by most denominations.
Angel Worship: Not practiced; regarded as idolatry.
Carries Talbot: No.

Other Eastern/Oriental Churches (Syriac, Armenian)

Bible Books: Ranges around 61-75.
40-Day Fasting: Commonly observed.
Prayer for Dead: Yes.
Angel Worship: Veneration is common.
Carries Talbot: Similar to Coptic/Ethiopian traditions, they use liturgical items on altars.

[Misraq]

Aye Pente, you tried to run away by changing the subject and writing 10 thousand words, typical of a shallow political Pentecoste

The subject matter is whether the saintly can listen or not, pray or not. You called them they are "dead". Didn't you? Abrahams response to the rich man that he can't send lazarus is simple. He said, "if they don't believe the scriptures, messages and God's prophets. They won't believe if Lazarus is sent" you don't seem to understand this.

ሃይማኖት ሱቅ በደረቴ መስሎህ ልትሸቅልበት መሞከርህ ያው ሸቃይ አጭቤ መሆንህን እንጂ ሌላ ምንም አያሳይም።

If you don't believe that, there is more that will blow your head.

In Zechariah 1:12, the Angel of the Lord intercedes on behalf of Jerusalem, asking "O Lord of hosts, how long will You not have mercy on Jerusalem and on the cities of Judah, against which You were angry these seventy years?". .

This verse depicts a plea for an end to the 70-year Babylonian captivity, prompting God to promise restoration and comfort to zion.

Your peanut sized tiny Pente balls are still in a hard grab squeezing it hard for you to write another 10,000 words more.

[Misraq]

Pastor chullo ሱቅ በደረቴ come again. Are you afraid of facts? Come on Gurage Boy

[Odie]

ምላስና ስንበር ደብተራ

ጉራ ብቻ!


ስራ ስትፈቱ!

ለወንጌል ስብከት ተስብስቡ ብትባሉ ግን አታረጉትም!
ይሄ ከአክሱም ከፈሲል አደስ ጊዜ ምንም የተልወጠ ነገር የልም:: ተቸክሎ መቅረት ማለት ይሄ አይደል?

ግን እሺ ይህ ይሁን ስልጣኔውና ሳይንሱ ቤት ጥሏችሁ አለፈ?
እኩል ተጀመረ ይሄኛው በዚሁ ተቸከለ ሌላው በቴክኖሎጂና ስይንስ በስራ በመቶ አመት ትቶ ሄደ

ስታፈዙን ስታደነዙን በድግምት/chanting

ስራ ፈት የቱሪስት መስህብ ይሆናል!

[Odie]

This is one of the tales I hate

አቡነ አረጋዊና የዘንዶ ታሪክ!

ዘንዶ መፅሃፍ ቅዱስ ውስጥ የዲየቢሎስ ምሳሌ ነው::
ሄዋንን ሲያስት ክርስቶስን ሲፈትን....

ንስር እያለ መልአክ እያለ ተራራ ላይ ለመውጣት ዘንዶ ምን አባቱ ሊያረግ መጣ?
ይህቼ የራሱ የስይጣን ስራ ነው!

[Misraq]

Let's take a look at a typical Pente satanic congregation dancing worldly

Pastor Chullo Guragew,

Well, you suddenly stopped debating on biblical verses as I was firmly squeezing your tiny peanut sized balls right? . It must have been very painful.

You posted the EOC's Yaredawi Zema and Wereb which we are so much proud of and our style of praising the Almighty and his children including his saintly servants and martyrs. Thank you for posting it and I will repost it again.

Our religious procession compared to Pentecostal disco and worldly dances was visible for the world to see in the A'elafat Zimare. One can see how coordinated, angelic and amazing our praises are conducted. Since your tone is changed more into political and ethnic conversations which I know it will end with, I have to mirror you as such and switch gears to further squeeze that thing.

As I said, Pentecostals are politically and ethnically charged. Anything we own is under attack be it our national heroes, our religion, our people...etc. all this comes from inferior complex, period. Outsider Protestants respect our own way of life and worship. But BeherBehereseb Pente hates us, including what is considered ours

Now let's repost our angelic procession that we love dearly. Pentes tried hard to emulate but failed miserably

Orthodox

[Tiago]

All Abrahamic religions are ways of life for Sematic people.
ጋላና የደቡብ ብሔረተኞች should learn to adopt what's originally their own.
Whatever sematic people believe in should not be other people business, unless there's something bugging them.

[Misraq]

All Abrahamic religions are ways of life for Sematic people.
ጋላና የደቡብ ብሔረተኞች should learn to adopt what's originally their own.
Whatever sematic people believe in should not be other people business, unless there's something bugging them.

Brother Tiago, as you can see, the chullo gilurage.listro thought he was versed on bible. When I tested him, it is the usual mambo jambo. Ultimately, these individuals are hell bent on destroying us, our identity and way of life. That is why you see them working with PP. My job is to expose them and advise our movement of these people for some corrective measures in the future policy and current diplomacy

[Odie]

All Abrahamic religions are ways of life for Sematic people.
ጋላና የደቡብ ብሔረተኞች should learn to adopt what's originally their own.
Whatever sematic people believe in should not be other people business, unless there's something bugging them.

who said you are semitic?. 60% አገውነትህን አትርሳ! There is no pure semitic in Africa but chushitic and some inflow semitic? gene.
ክርስትናው ወደአገሪቱ የገባው ያው በሲሪያዊ በግብፃዊ ምናምን ተደማምሮ Axum empire በስሜን በኩል ለውጪ ቅርብ ስለነበረ እንጂ ለሴም ለኩሽ ምናምን ተብሎ አይደለም ሃይማኖቱ ወዳገሪቱ የገባው:: የገባው ሃይማኖት ትዊፊት ሲጨመርበት ወደዛሬው ደረስ:: ደቡቡ የአገሪቱ ክፍል ያው ያለው የክርስትና ትምህርት ተከታይ ሆኖ ሳለ ሚሽነሪዎች ሲገቡ ወደ ደቡብ ሂዱ ስለተባለ አንዳንዱ ሌላ የክርስትና አይነት እንዲከተል ሆነ:: ክርስትና ደግሞ ክርስትና ነው:: አናሳና የሚበልጠው ፈራጅ ስው አይደለም:: ወጣም ወረደ የአክሱም ግዛት የነበረው ክርስትና የሁሉ እንጂ የሴም የኩሽ የሚባል አንዱ ብቻ የራሱ ንብረት አርጎ የሚዘው ወይም የሚከራከርለት አይደለም:;
ማንኛውም ኢትዮዽያዊ የፈለገውን ማመን ይችላል:: መ.ቅዱሳዊ ያልሆን ትዉፊቶች ከኦርቶዶክስ ይነሳልኝ ብሎ የመጠየቅ መብት ነው:: በቋንቋው የመስማት ጥያቄ መብቱ ነው::

….. ….

ይሄ ሁሉ እንካ ስላንቲያ ያመጣው is the person who started multiple insultive threads on the subject. That person has to learn the lesson that there are deeper problems in his own jurisdiction and be polite!

[Odie]

All Abrahamic religions are ways of life for Sematic people.
ጋላና የደቡብ ብሔረተኞች should learn to adopt what's originally their own.
Whatever sematic people believe in should not be other people business, unless there's something bugging them.

Brother Tiago, as you can see, the chullo gilurage.listro thought he was versed on bible. When I tested him, it is the usual mambo jambo. Ultimately, these individuals are hell bent on destroying us, our identity and way of life. That is why you see them working with PP. My job is to expose them and advise our movement of these people for some corrective measures in the future policy and current diplomacy

ድድብናና መቸከል ምላስ ስድብ የተስጠ ቀን አንደኛ ተስልፋችሁ ነበር አይደል?
That is the culture you are reflecting!
These tools have no value in this age
Left alone
ጩኸትና ጉራ ብቻ!

[Misraq]

Shoe Shinner listro, just watch as I demolish you
Aye Pente

[Odie]

Shoe Shinner listro, just watch as I demolish you
Aye Pente

አራም ኮማሪት
I am not a defender of protestants here. You started insulting as if you are better as it is your culture to do so and you did not grow up in decency!
በአፋችሁም በቂጣችሁም እኩል ነው የምትፀዳዱት!
No shame!
You used to poo at roadside and pee the same! Hope you improved on this but not on bad mouthing!
Begging is more humiliating than Listro
Beggar

[Tiago]

[/b ]semitic is not a racial classification ,it is a member of any people who speak one of the Semitic languages.

Judaism was established in Ethiopia centuries before Christianity became the state religion in the 4th century CE.