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[gearhead]

እንኳን ሴት፣ ግንብ ሲያረሰርስ ታይቶም ተሰምቶም አያውቅም!!

በዚህ ምክንያት ብልት ኔፓ ብለው የሚወራረዱም አይጠፉም!!

ያም ሆነ ይህ አለአረሰረሴ population መጥፋቱ አይቀሬ ነው!!

እከካም ጉራጌ የራሱን የብልት ችግር መፍታት ትቶ አማራ ላይ ተንጠልጥሎ ኦሮሞን ለማጥፋት የሚያረገው contra-natural selection ትግል በብዙ መንገድ እንደብልቱ የተሽመጀመደ ነው እንላለን!!

[Horus]

እንኳን ሴት፣ ግንብ ሲያረሰርስ ታይቶም ተሰምቶም አያውቅም!!

በዚህ ምክንያት ብልት ኔፓ ብለው የሚወራረዱም አይጠፉም!!

ያም ሆነ ይህ አለአረሰረሴ population መጥፋቱ አይቀሬ ነው!!

እከካም ጉራጌ የራሱን የብልት ችግር መፍታት ትቶ አማራ ላይ ተንጠልጥሎ ኦሮሞን ለማጥፋት የሚያረገው contra-natural selection ትግል በብዙ መንገድ እንደብልቱ የተሽመጀመደ ነው እንላለን!!

አው አስረግዞ ሲያስወልድህ እንጂ ሲደክልህማ አታየውም ጥበበኛ ስለሆነ

[Right]

Brickhead,
Koshash Weyannie. Human garbage.

[Misraq]

Brickhead,
Koshash Weyannie. Human garbage.

Brother Right, I see you here defending the Listros from the Galla onslought. But the lisros are ungrateful, they run back to the Galla. Not worth it to save the listros. let them be swallowed by the Galla.

[Dama]

እንኳን ሴት፣ ግንብ ሲያረሰርስ ታይቶም ተሰምቶም አያውቅም!!

በዚህ ምክንያት ብልት ኔፓ ብለው የሚወራረዱም አይጠፉም!!

ያም ሆነ ይህ አለአረሰረሴ population መጥፋቱ አይቀሬ ነው!!

እከካም ጉራጌ የራሱን የብልት ችግር መፍታት ትቶ አማራ ላይ ተንጠልጥሎ ኦሮሞን ለማጥፋት የሚያረገው contra-natural selection ትግል በብዙ መንገድ እንደብልቱ የተሽመጀመደ ነው እንላለን!!

Where did you pull this out from? Stinks baseless such that it couldn't be from your mouth neighbored by brain. It should be from your back far from your head at the displacement camp on the other side of Tekeze.
Dedebit!!

[Right]

Brother Right, I see you here defending the Listros from the Galla onslought. But the lisros are ungrateful, they run back to the Galla. Not worth it to save the listros. let them be swallowed by the Galla.

Brother Misraq,

Thx for bringing up the thread from 2023. Gearhead and others were right in saying the truth about the Guraghies.
I have never thought the Guraghies will misbehave the way they did towards the Amharas. No other ethnic groups is so hostile as they do.
I was then wrong.

But at least give them credit for coming out of the closet and exposing themselves. They can stay neutral like so many groups do but it turned out bad character can’t resist the opportunity. WW2 exposed a lot of bad nations and characters.

Stay tuned. In Ethiopia and the HOA politics change fast. When ethnic ideology is a core of your constitution and governed by crazy people who called themselves a Dr when they are not a lot of bad things will happen..
The saying: what goes around will come around.

[Odie]

Brother Right, I see you here defending the Listros from the Galla onslought. But the lisros are ungrateful, they run back to the Galla. Not worth it to save the listros. let them be swallowed by the Galla.

Brother Misraq,

Thx for bringing up the thread from 2023. Gearhead and others were right in saying the truth about the Guraghies.
I have never thought the Guraghies will misbehave the way they did towards the Amharas. No other ethnic groups is so hostile as they do.
I was then wrong.

But at least give them credit for coming out of the closet and exposing themselves. They can stay neutral like so many groups do but it turned out bad character can’t resist the opportunity. WW2 exposed a lot of bad nations and characters.

Stay tuned. In Ethiopia and the HOA politics change fast. When ethnic ideology is a core of your constitution and governed by crazy people who called themselves a Dr when they are not a lot of bad things will happen..
The saying: what goes around will come around.

You idiot shanko! where is Gurage in this forum? It is you who is dragging Gurage into this forum without its desire. Horus, I and dama are not reps of Gurage. Everyone has a motive of its own. We have our own differences and rifts but you are so idiot you can not see the difference and you prefer to insult all Gurage instead of addressing a subject or an issue. You try to update your feudal leftover lexicon of insult when dealing with other ethnics. You the idiots expect everybody to work for ya and treat ya with red carpet. You are very disrespectful idiot leftover from the past. When you disrespect others and insult all of us for sure you will get a response. If you are brave, forget insulting other ethnics and first work on your own minions who are serving PP/Oromuma instead of the needs of their people. Gurage has its own huge problem to solve and focusing on your issues is not its priority except few deranged people working for the system and particular bigots. If you continue to abuse a particular ethnics, you will get an equivalent response as no body tolerates abuse. The past should have been enough but in that cursed land it ain’t dissipate anywhere soon!

[Odie]

Brickhead,
Koshash Weyannie. Human garbage.

Brother Right, I see you here defending the Listros from the Galla onslought. But the lisros are ungrateful, they run back to the Galla. Not worth it to save the listros. let them be swallowed by the Galla.

Gurage is pretty much an independent minded ethnic! The problem is the so called leftover Amhara elites that love to insult everybody else on the planet owning a dictionary of insults and stuck in the past.

Gurage has no issue with Amhara and Oromo or even with Tigre or others. It will work to coexist with others if the country continues or does not. It will have its own survival means as it had for millennia before the establishment of cursed land Ethiopia!

በተረፈ መስዳደቡ ምንም ጥቅም የለውም:: ስድቡን ትታችሁ ጊዜው ይሚጠይቀው ትግላችሁ ላይ ብትስሩ አይሻላችሁም?
You guys are misfiring as usual
Gurage is politically marginalized group for centuries and has its own problem to deal with. I have no idea why you prefer to attack Gurage because of few people with personal motivation when your own people, neighbors and Oromuma are the one working against you. In fact you have a lot of support among gurage who have been part of the traditional ethiopia like the Amhara region. I think you guys have to understand the language and strategy of fano and work by their principle to win more hearts and soul from all sides of the aisle including from Oromo. The Fano fan base is so unhinged I don’t think it is working not even in the discipline of TPLF or PP!
Good luck but don’t insult us! We are humans and when you do people respond

[Dama]

Odius, bulldozes everyone. Everyone is wrong but him about the big issues of Ethiopia. Total gimgema. Critical thinker. Fruit of reading the Pente Bible.

What especially impressed me as a Gueage is his learnt conclusion that Gurage has been a province of Abyssinia governed by Axum since time immemorial. He could not be more fake a Gurage than his brother Erstu Yirdaw.

[Abere]

I think Gurages are often mistakenly portrayed as opportunists, particularly due to the actions of individuals from the Sodo/Kistane area. A rough look shows that while Gurage people have long been denied regional (kilil) status, despite even Adere and Gambella having such recognition, many of the loudest voices among southern groups supporting the TPLF and OLF have come specifically from Sodo/Kistane. Sadly, this kind of opportunism has not benefited ordinary Gurage people at all.

For example, Fekadu Gedamu (from Sodo), from the outset, allowed Gurage identity to be freely exploited by Woyane. Kassu Ilala (also from Sodo) acted similarly. The list continues. Berhanu Nega (Sodo), after usurping G-7, aligned with Abiy and OLF, during which time Gurage communities were massacred, villages burned and civilians killed. Abiy even mocked Gurages by saying they did not need a kilil, that they were not worthy of a region, and by making demeaning analogies - as if Gurage rooms like a Toyota and lives everywhere. And yet taking Gurage land - a community known to have faced land scarcity the most, due to high population density. At the same time, Gurages were forced to adopt Aba Geda symbols, speak Afaan Oromo, and conform culturally under pressure.

Another opportunist who displayed similar behavior is Girma Seifu. The real issue, then, is why this pattern of opportunism and political restlessness exists. However, the actions of a few opportunistic individuals—whether they are from Sodo, Kistane, or any other subgroup—should not be used to insult or blame the entire Gurage people.

Unfortunately, this is a common problem in online discourse. Because participants are often anonymous or barely known, blame is easily shifted from individuals to entire ethnic groups. In reality, responsibility should rest fully on the individuals involved, not on the community they come from.

To be honest, reckless individuals like Huresa are doing great harm to the Gurage. Anyone who reads Huresa tends to associate his views instinctively with the Gurage as a whole, which is deeply unfortunate.

Beyond that, I see no real reason for disagreement between the Gurage and the Amhara. There is no land dispute between them, unlike the conflicts between Amhara and Tigray or Amhara and Oromo. Moreover, the geographic distance between Amhara and Addis Ababa is minimal.

It is good for all oppressed ethnic groups to engage in the struggle for democratic change, but it is not a necessity for Fano to have them act together or under the same framework to oppose Oromummaa ideology. Trading insults and degrading entire communities harms the social fabric far more than it helps any political struggle.

[Odie]

I think Gurages are often mistakenly portrayed as opportunists, particularly due to the actions of individuals from the Sodo/Kistane area. A rough look shows that while Gurage people have long been denied regional (kilil) status, despite even Adere and Gambella having such recognition, many of the loudest voices among southern groups supporting the TPLF and OLF have come specifically from Sodo/Kistane. Sadly, this kind of opportunism has not benefited ordinary Gurage people at all.

For example, Fekadu Gedamu (from Sodo), from the outset, allowed Gurage identity to be freely exploited by Woyane. Kassu Ilala (also from Sodo) acted similarly. The list continues. Berhanu Nega (Sodo), after usurping G-7, aligned with Abiy and OLF, during which time Gurage communities were massacred, villages burned and civilians killed. Abiy even mocked Gurages by saying they did not need a kilil, that they were not worthy of a region, and by making demeaning analogies - as if Gurage rooms like a Toyota and lives everywhere. And yet taking Gurage land - a community known to have faced land scarcity the most, due to high population density. At the same time, Gurages were forced to adopt Aba Geda symbols, speak Afaan Oromo, and conform culturally under pressure.

Another opportunist who displayed similar behavior is Girma Seifu. The real issue, then, is why this pattern of opportunism and political restlessness exists. However, the actions of a few opportunistic individuals—whether they are from Sodo, Kistane, or any other subgroup—should not be used to insult or blame the entire Gurage people.

Unfortunately, this is a common problem in online discourse. Because participants are often anonymous or barely known, blame is easily shifted from individuals to entire ethnic groups. In reality, responsibility should rest fully on the individuals involved, not on the community they come from.

To be honest, reckless individuals like Huresa are doing great harm to the Gurage. Anyone who reads Huresa tends to associate his views instinctively with the Gurage as a whole, which is deeply unfortunate.

Beyond that, I see no real reason for disagreement between the Gurage and the Amhara. There is no land dispute between them, unlike the conflicts between Amhara and Tigray or Amhara and Oromo. Moreover, the geographic distance between Amhara and Addis Ababa is minimal.

It is good for all oppressed ethnic groups to engage in the struggle for democratic change, but it is not a necessity for Fano to have them act together or under the same framework to oppose Oromummaa ideology. Trading insults and degrading entire communities harms the social fabric far more than it helps any political struggle.

I appreciate your understanding. You are the only Fano supporter with good understanding of the Gurage ethnics.
The gurage as every other poor ethiopian have been marginalized people from the governance and political perspective. They never had proper political and administrative representation but some elites from them have used them. I have grievance the Sodo elites behaved as the only Gurage mattering in the Ethiopian political and business landscape cornering the rest of 7 bet aside. Elites like Birhanu and others stood for their motive which is also mistaken as Gurage representation. Dama hating christian Amhara and Gurage the like plus Horus standing for PP because of Sodo relation with neighboring Oromo construed as Gurage supporting this and that and hating this and that. Then dogs like Right the shanko and Gearhead the OlF, sometimes Togo and another imbecile called abaymado and Misrq continue to foul mouth the marginalized ethnics instead of focusing their own business.
This is pretty much the reflection of how narrow headed these people and many others like them.
That is a pity state the country is in. If we want to insult one another, every ethnic person has a weakness and will shove that on the violator. That will only benefit the enemies of the country and every ethnics!

[Misraq]

The problem is the so called leftover Amhara elites that love to insult everybody else on the planet owning a dictionary of insults and stuck in the past.

Did we insult Sidama? Somali? Gambella? Wellayta? Gamo? Shinasha? Gumuz? Harari? Afar? Hadiya? Konso?...etc. What do you mean by "insulting everybody" ?

Gurage is insulted because we have three Gurages here in this forum and all three of you are attacking and blaming Amharas. I thought you are sane and logical. I refrain from insulting Gurage eventhough Dama and Huressa were trashtalking on Amhara more than Oromos and Tigres combined. What is your issue with Amhara? I even went to length of calling Dama as a Silte to avoid responding to Gurages ill behaviours here. I see you many times insulting our hero Menilik and i don't see you saying anyword about the Oromo Aba Giffar who was selling your people on an open market as slaves. Or is it that you people only respect those who lash out on you & terrorize you? Then so be it. Continue on your trash and we know how to respond. We don't share border with you and we don't know if we harm you in the past. If there is, please bring it and lets discuss.

[Right]

You idiot shanko! where is Gurage in this forum? It is you who is dragging Gurage into this forum without its desire. Horus, I and dama are not reps of Gurage. Everyone has a motive of its own. We have our own differences and rifts but you are so idiot you can not see the difference and you prefer to insult all Gurage instead of addressing a subject or an issue. You try to update your feudal leftover lexicon of insult when dealing with other ethnics. You the idiots expect everybody to work for ya and treat ya with red carpet. You are very disrespectful idiot leftover from the past. When you disrespect others and insult all of us for sure you will get a response. If you are brave, forget insulting other ethnics and first work on your own minions who are serving PP/Oromuma instead of the needs of their people. Gurage has its own huge problem to solve and focusing on your issues is not its priority except few deranged people working for the system and particular bigots. If you continue to abuse a particular ethnics, you will get an equivalent response as no body tolerates abuse. The past should have been enough but in that cursed land it ain’t dissipate anywhere soon!

crying baby.
Since you sound conciliatory I will not say a word of insult.
Since I don’t understand much of the things you said, go ahead feel free to rain it on me.

Horsie and Doma carpet bomb everyone behalf of the Guraghies and in favour of PP. We take it and give it back 10 fold.

Here, you are lying though. I never insulted any ethnic group except Gurage. I never called Tigrians the N word. I defended all ethnic groups including Gurage when it warranted it. When the Gamos were murdered by the OLF thugs I was there for them sincerely and unconditionally.

[Odie]

You idiot shanko! where is Gurage in this forum? It is you who is dragging Gurage into this forum without its desire. Horus, I and dama are not reps of Gurage. Everyone has a motive of its own. We have our own differences and rifts but you are so idiot you can not see the difference and you prefer to insult all Gurage instead of addressing a subject or an issue. You try to update your feudal leftover lexicon of insult when dealing with other ethnics. You the idiots expect everybody to work for ya and treat ya with red carpet. You are very disrespectful idiot leftover from the past. When you disrespect others and insult all of us for sure you will get a response. If you are brave, forget insulting other ethnics and first work on your own minions who are serving PP/Oromuma instead of the needs of their people. Gurage has its own huge problem to solve and focusing on your issues is not its priority except few deranged people working for the system and particular bigots. If you continue to abuse a particular ethnics, you will get an equivalent response as no body tolerates abuse. The past should have been enough but in that cursed land it ain’t dissipate anywhere soon!

crying baby.
Since you sound conciliatory I will not say a word of insult.
Since I don’t understand much of the things you said, go ahead feel free to rain it on me.

Horsie and Doma carpet bomb everyone behalf of the Guraghies and in favour of PP. We take it and give it back 10 fold.

Here, you are lying though. I never insulted any ethnic group except Gurage. I never called Tigrians the N word. I defended all ethnic groups including Gurage when it warranted it. When the Gamos were murdered by the OLF thugs I was there for them sincerely and unconditionally.

ላሃጫም የኮማሪት ልጅ ሻንቆ!
I don’t have time to waste with you!
Learn better and try to post better things about fano next time. And bigots like you are hated most in the Ethiopian politics and should not be allowed to come forward at all! Victim of failure

[Dama]

I think Gurages are often mistakenly portrayed as opportunists, particularly due to the actions of individuals from the Sodo/Kistane area. A rough look shows that while Gurage people have long been denied regional (kilil) status, despite even Adere and Gambella having such recognition, many of the loudest voices among southern groups supporting the TPLF and OLF have come specifically from Sodo/Kistane. Sadly, this kind of opportunism has not benefited ordinary Gurage people at all.

For example, Fekadu Gedamu (from Sodo), from the outset, allowed Gurage identity to be freely exploited by Woyane. Kassu Ilala (also from Sodo) acted similarly. The list continues. Berhanu Nega (Sodo), after usurping G-7, aligned with Abiy and OLF, during which time Gurage communities were massacred, villages burned and civilians killed. Abiy even mocked Gurages by saying they did not need a kilil, that they were not worthy of a region, and by making demeaning analogies - as if Gurage rooms like a Toyota and lives everywhere. And yet taking Gurage land - a community known to have faced land scarcity the most, due to high population density. At the same time, Gurages were forced to adopt Aba Geda symbols, speak Afaan Oromo, and conform culturally under pressure.

Another opportunist who displayed similar behavior is Girma Seifu. The real issue, then, is why this pattern of opportunism and political restlessness exists. However, the actions of a few opportunistic individuals—whether they are from Sodo, Kistane, or any other subgroup—should not be used to insult or blame the entire Gurage people.

Unfortunately, this is a common problem in online discourse. Because participants are often anonymous or barely known, blame is easily shifted from individuals to entire ethnic groups. In reality, responsibility should rest fully on the individuals involved, not on the community they come from.

To be honest, reckless individuals like Huresa are doing great harm to the Gurage. Anyone who reads Huresa tends to associate his views instinctively with the Gurage as a whole, which is deeply unfortunate.

Beyond that, I see no real reason for disagreement between the Gurage and the Amhara. There is no land dispute between them, unlike the conflicts between Amhara and Tigray or Amhara and Oromo. Moreover, the geographic distance between Amhara and Addis Ababa is minimal.

It is good for all oppressed ethnic groups to engage in the struggle for democratic change, but it is not a necessity for Fano to have them act together or under the same framework to oppose Oromummaa ideology. Trading insults and degrading entire communities harms the social fabric far more than it helps any political struggle.

I think, Gurage is dominated by elites who also have a tight hold on the youth with a mantra of "do-nothing against seating Ethiopian gov, standby and watch the direction of political movements without participating, accept political positions by winners when offered". This explains why Gurage failed to adapt to changing Ethiopian political narratives. Also, why Gurage remained deaf when wars raged in Eritrea, Tigrey, Somali, and remains deaf now to bombs in Amara. Why this blind loyalty to any gov of Ethiopia is a big question that needs time to research to establish the reasons.
Some clues Whorus and Oduis give off can be beneficial in the flight of Gurage elites to well organized tribes, Whorus to Oromo and Odius to Amars. They find organizing Gurage and leading it is a daunting task. In both, you see preference to certainty of success of another tribe having a 1)well-established, funded and armed group, 2)or the other tribe already firmed gov and came to power such PP in the case of Whorus. To oppose its injustices looks to them immoral; more so an unEthiopian virtue.

Of course a blind belief. When propagated by those who have influence over the people because of their high status in soceity it become a taboo to challenge it.

[Odie]

The problem is the so called leftover Amhara elites that love to insult everybody else on the planet owning a dictionary of insults and stuck in the past.

Did we insult Sidama? Somali? Gambella? Wellayta? Gamo? Shinasha? Gumuz? Harari? Afar? Hadiya? Konso?...etc. What do you mean by "insulting everybody" ?

Gurage is insulted because we have three Gurages here in this forum and all three of you are attacking and blaming Amharas. I thought you are sane and logical. I refrain from insulting Gurage eventhough Dama and Huressa were trashtalking on Amhara more than Oromos and Tigres combined. What is your issue with Amhara? I even went to length of calling Dama as a Silte to avoid responding to Gurages ill behaviours here. I see you many times insulting our hero Menilik and i don't see you saying anyword about the Oromo Aba Giffar who was selling your people on an open market as slaves. Or is it that you people only respect those who lash out on you & terrorize you? Then so be it. Continue on your trash and we know how to respond. We don't share border with you and we don't know if we harm you in the past. If there is, please bring it and lets discuss.

I know you have been somewhat more diplomatic! I know you are pulled in the diatribe with the guy I don’t want even mention his name. I do remember you were involved in derogatory conversation about ቆጮ processing on which millions of people rely in the country, not even a gurage thing alone. Diet is a sensitive issue and a lot of people live on different things from insects to eating dogs to wild nasty animals. I know everyone is obsessed with listro and associate it with Gurage but a job every poor does any way where thousands que for a job listed for few people. ስራ ክቡር ነው ተረስቶ ethiopians remain insultive and abusive to themselves because of their job descriptions. Where you and I live it is no one’s business to ask or talk who works what or wears what!
You may not have seen the book but I by chance saw an insultive name calling book of the feudal of the past prepared for tax on each ethnic and region. የግብር መፅሃፍ!!
It was very humbling! It listed many ethnics with durogatory words not acceptable by current standard and Mr right is trying to use similar terms.
One of the things Ethiopians should do is refrain from using derogatory words on themselves as Ethiopians. Regions and ethnics have been name called by their own elites of the past. Perhaps we should humble ourselves and mind our vocabulary. I know vernacular words are spewed in forums like this!
I generally have respect for past ethiopian leaders even Meles included for his start of the GERD. But I do believe many had inexcusable mistakes but I don’t wish to focus on the past but on today and the future! Many leaders represented all ethnics either by blood or marriage although the systems they lead had heavy hand on the grassroots public.
All to mean is I don’t think I have insulted Menelik which I used to call him አቤቶ ምንሊክ for a respect of his building of the nation and adwa victory. I did mention Gurage under Hassan injamo fought with him 2 x, first his soldiers lost to gurage then gurage lost and joined the union to show gurage has a self defence spirit which is in the written history book. Gurage also fought with Oromo and self preserved but lost a lot of land. Now gurage is marginalized and lost its identity to the union. It is struggling to unify and retain its identity. Few elites will obviously align with the incumbent government but that does not mean all Gurage support the system, enjoy it and be verbally abused by ignorants like few of the forumers!
Also all ethnic heros have to be celebrated as Ethiopian heros as far as they have a merit in the nation. Theodros, Menelik, his majesty the King, King Yohannes etc are are prominent figures in the ethiopian history but there are many towering figures from money ethnics that should be recognized in the national level. Laughingly you mentioned I don’t mention Jifar! I don’t know if the Oromos consider him their hero, not even the Jimma people as he was a slave trading controversial person who worked with the Arabs. I don’t have knowledge more than that on him and no obsession about him!
By the way except the eastern and north Gurage the western gurage has no boarder with Oromo and first time I met Oromo was in Addis. West gurage boarders and trades with Hadiya but did not intermarry or live with them in the past!Conflicts with them did happen and gurage was strong in diplomacy and defence to live a stable life up until it relinquished power to the central gov!

[Right]

ላሃጫም የኮማሪት ልጅ ሻንቆ!

You like to dish it out in all kinds of ancient vocabulary but then you cry out when we give it back to you.

Sure, I have a lot of time for you. What a comedian.
Again, I am not hitting you back. Although it is tempting to knock your sensitive part. Stay in your lane.

Just like Horsie you have no respect for women. I guess that is a cultural thing.

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All to mean is I don’t think I have insulted Menelik which I used to call him አቤቶ ምንሊክ for a respect of his building of the nation and adwa victory. I did mention Gurage under Hassan injamo fought with him 2 x, first his soldiers lost to gurage then gurage lost and joined the union to show gurage has a self defence spirit which is in the written history book.[/color][/b]

Wrong. This is why I told you to not pull false facts from your arse and post them here as if your arse is a history book.

Stop making yourself a laughable ignoramus unable to control his wide open mouth. Get some morals. Get some ethics to not mislead readers of your post. Stop your corruption yourself.

Son, read social sciences. Read. Read. Read idiot read.

Gurage fought Menelick 11 times in 15 years from 1875 when he was 31 until 1889. The war, one of the resistance factions, for most part was led by the Imam Omar Baqsa of Chaha. Imam Hassen Injamo was second to Imam Baqsa but the last one standing, because at end, Imam Beqsa wanted to make a ceasefire with Menelick but Hassen Injamo refused and continued to resist him. Other factions existed in Welene, Gedebano/Gutazer, Silte, Sodo, etc. Silte even killed Menelick's and Ras Gobena's grandson Merid Wedajo Gobena.

The wars ended not in defeat but by a ceasefire agreement at Areqit, near Areqit Lake, Gwemare(Gumer) or Anget Cheha between Agaz Darsamo for Gurage and Menelick's envoy(name forgot). Agaz Darsamo visited Menelick at Ankober to celebrate the ceasefire by his invitation. He refused Menelick's offer to serve as his general preferring to retire among his people.

I don't blame you. They work you too hard and too long. You have no time to read. That's the life of a slave. Nothing new.