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[Naga Tuma]

The basic question of history is the following.

Do you agree or disagree that Moses was the Pharaoh par excellence?

I asked the question a while ago on this forum very impulsively after noticing what I think is a repeated mistake time after time about the basic history.

The participant I asked the question would otherwise sound one of the more rational ones who expresses his views on this forum in favor of Eritrea.

Here is the names of the participants that I remember at this time that either failed or avoided to answer the question.

Zmeselo
Fed_Up
Horus
sesame
Misraq
Union
Right
Abere
Temt

One exception is justo.

He agrees more than he disagree. If I misread him, the mistake would be mine.

[sesame]

Moses was an adopted son of a Pharoah. That is all. He was never a Pharoh himself! Even Google AI know this which says:

According to the biblical Book of Exodus, Moses was adopted by Pharaoh's daughter after she found him as a baby floating in the Nile River, saving him from the decree to kill Hebrew boys, and raised him within the Egyptian royal household, giving him an education and status that prepared him for his future leadership role.

[Naga Tuma]

I take that as your answer.

The next question for you is if you have read the following two books:

1. Moses and Monotheism by Sigmund Freud, published in Germany in 1939.

2. Moses and Akhenaten: The Secret History of Egypt at the Time of the Exodus by Ahmed Osman, published in 2002.

Sigmund Freud’s exhaustive account is that Moses was not an Israelite, but an Egyptian Pharaoh.

Ahmed Osman’s seemingly exhaustive account is that Sigmund Freud’s account that Moses was an Egyptian Pharaoh is correct. He goes on to identity that Egyptian Pharaoh to be Pharaoh Akhenaten.

justo agrees that Sigmund Freud’s account is more agreeable than disagreeable.

So, if you have read both books, do you disagree with both Sigmund Freud and Ahmed Osman?

If you haven’t read the books, do you believe that justo and I who both read Sigmund Freud’s book failed to read it correctly?

Moses was an adopted son of a Pharoah. That is all. He was never a Pharoh himself! Even Google AI know this which says:

According to the biblical Book of Exodus, Moses was adopted by Pharaoh's daughter after she found him as a baby floating in the Nile River, saving him from the decree to kill Hebrew boys, and raised him within the Egyptian royal household, giving him an education and status that prepared him for his future leadership role.

[Naga Tuma]

On that issue I am more with you than with the people you were arguing with. Like you, I find the cultural anthropologic reading of Freud on the identity of Moses facinating and closer to the truth than the biblical story.

[Fiyameta]

Moses parted the Eritrean Sea.

[ethiopianunity]

You seem very obsessed with Moses and Pharoah. I have a feeling you are asking theses questions to have an agenda telling us about the conclusion. Bible not edited contemporary says Moses was not Egyptian therefore not Pharoah. He is descendant of Israelites but of ለዋውያን his wife was ዸጢፋራ ዮቶር አባቷ ነው. I have heard l think from Dr. Fikre Tolosa and others his wife maybe Ethiopian descent. Just telling what l know so far and not read Sigmund Froyd on Moses.

[Naga Tuma]

The Hebrew etymology in the Biblical story may reflect an attempt to cancel out traces of Moses' Egyptian origins. The Egyptian character of his name was recognized as such by ancient Jewish writers like Philo and Josephus.

Source: Moses

[Naga Tuma]

You seem very obsessed with Moses and Pharoah. I have a feeling you are asking theses questions to have an agenda telling us about the conclusion. Bible not edited contemporary says Moses was not Egyptian therefore not Pharoah. He is descendant of Israelites but of ለዋውያን his wife was ዸጢፋራ ዮቶር አባቷ ነው. I have heard l think from Dr. Fikre Tolosa and others his wife maybe Ethiopian descent. Just telling what l know so far and not read Sigmund Froyd on Moses.

I wonder for how long you have been in Ethiopia’s politics as an activist or in an official capacity, if any?

[Zack]

Moses was a hebrew he was an israelite he was the adopteer son of firawn he wasnt the pharoa per say
My question what is the purpose of ur question

Dr Zackovich

[Naga Tuma]

I take that as your answer.

The next question for you is if you have read the following two books:

1. Moses and Monotheism by Sigmund Freud, published in Germany in 1939.

2. Moses and Akhenaten: The Secret History of Egypt at the Time of the Exodus by Ahmed Osman, published in 2002.

Sigmund Freud’s exhaustive account is that Moses was not an Israelite, but an Egyptian Pharaoh.

Ahmed Osman’s seemingly exhaustive account is that Sigmund Freud’s account that Moses was an Egyptian Pharaoh is correct. He goes on to identity that Egyptian Pharaoh to be Pharaoh Akhenaten.

justo agrees that Sigmund Freud’s account is more agreeable than disagreeable.

So, if you have read both books, do you disagree with both Sigmund Freud and Ahmed Osman?

If you haven’t read the books, do you believe that justo and I who both read Sigmund Freud’s book failed to read it correctly?

Moses was a hebrew he was an israelite he was the adopteer son of firawn he wasnt the pharoa per say
My question what is the purpose of ur question

Dr Zackovich

[Naga Tuma]

justo:

If you get an opportunity to read this thread, as a thinker, what would be your educated forbearance with the ignorance that has been lurking in none other than the old Bible for such a long time?

[ethiopianunity]

You seem very obsessed with Moses and Pharoah. I have a feeling you are asking theses questions to have an agenda telling us about the conclusion. Bible not edited contemporary says Moses was not Egyptian therefore not Pharoah. He is descendant of Israelites but of ለዋውያን his wife was ዸጢፋራ ዮቶር አባቷ ነው. I have heard l think from Dr. Fikre Tolosa and others his wife maybe Ethiopian descent. Just telling what l know so far and not read Sigmund Froyd on Moses.

I wonder for how long you have been in Ethiopia’s politics as an activist or in an official capacity, if any?

ለምን ጠየክ/ ጠየቁ?

[Abere]

Nega Tuma asks question that does not have any purpose. I guess the reason why he stuck with Moses is because he wanted to claim Moses is an Oromo. Orommuma people madness has no limit.
He does not now where the children of Ham (Cannan, Mizraim, Kush-Nubia, Phut).

Whereas Moses belongs to one of the three sons of (Noah) the Shem or Semite lineage. Noah had three sons (Shem,Ham
and Japheth)


Noah
└── Shem
└── Arphaxad
└── Shelah
└── Eber
└── Peleg
└── Reu
└── Serug
└── Nahor
└── Terah
└── Abraham
└── Isaac
└── Jacob (Israel)
└── Levi
└── Kohath
└── Amram
└── Moses

[ethiopianunity]

Nega Tuma asks question that does not have any purpose. I guess the reason why he stuck with Moses is because he wanted to claim Moses is an Oromo. Orommuma people madness has no limit.
He does not now where the children of Ham (Cannan, Mizraim, Kush-Nubia, Phut).

Whereas Moses belongs to one of the three sons of (Noah) the Shem or Semite lineage. Noah had three sons (Shem,Ham
and Japheth)


Noah
└── Shem
└── Arphaxad
└── Shelah
└── Eber
└── Peleg
└── Reu
└── Serug
└── Nahor
└── Terah
└── Abraham
└── Isaac
└── Jacob (Israel)
└── Levi
└── Kohath
└── Amram
└── Moses

Abere,

I never read posts from Naga Tuma about being ethnic fanatic although he does post Oromiffa in Amharic/ Geez, and rightly so. The other fanatic Olf like ddt, sun? ( oh sun was outed as Shabian) are the ones who right Oromiffa in Latin. For example Olf radicals are obsessed with dividing Ethiopians claiming about Kushite while abandoning the rest of Ham's children.

Abere, the latest edited Amharic bible ( 81 books) ,tells Moses as descendant of Israel but does not say anything about his immediate ancestors be it Abraham, Noah etc lt says although Moses was Israeli but he was from ለዋውያን don't know English term of these people. Can you elaborate on this esp if you have Orthodox Tewahedo theology background? Oh, l just saw the listing of Moses lineage . So does ለዋውያን means Levi?

[Abere]

ethiopianunity,

Although Naga Tuma did not conspicuously show it like DDT and OPPFist, him being stuck relentlessly with Moses, Pharoah Kush, etc. is today's epidemic with Orommuma fanatics. If you ever watched one of the crazy Orommuma even stated Adam who popped out of water was speaking Orominga He might appear to be false negative for the Orommuma virus, while true negative for it.

Back to your question: Yes, Moses is from ለዋውያን. Bible, Levi is the name of Jacob’s son and the ancestor of the Levite tribe.

Abraham
│
Isaac
│
Jacob (Israel)
│
Levi
│
Kohath
│
Amram ── Jochebed
│
┌──────┼────────┐
│ │ │
Miriam Aaron Moses ── Zipporah
│
┌────┴────┐
│ │
Gershom Eliezer


Moses’ Immediate Family
Wife: Zipporah (daughter of Jethro/Reuel of Midian)
Sons: Gershom, Eliezer

Nega Tuma asks question that does not have any purpose. I guess the reason why he stuck with Moses is because he wanted to claim Moses is an Oromo. Orommuma people madness has no limit.
He does not now where the children of Ham (Cannan, Mizraim, Kush-Nubia, Phut).

Whereas Moses belongs to one of the three sons of (Noah) the Shem or Semite lineage. Noah had three sons (Shem,Ham
and Japheth)


Noah
└── Shem
└── Arphaxad
└── Shelah
└── Eber
└── Peleg
└── Reu
└── Serug
└── Nahor
└── Terah
└── Abraham
└── Isaac
└── Jacob (Israel)
└── Levi
└── Kohath
└── Amram
└── Moses

Abere,

I never read posts from Naga Tuma about being ethnic fanatic although he does post Oromiffa in Amharic/ Geez, and rightly so. The other fanatic Olf like ddt, sun? ( oh sun was outed as Shabian) are the ones who right Oromiffa in Latin. For example Olf radicals are obsessed with dividing Ethiopians claiming about Kushite while abandoning the rest of Ham's children.

Abere, the latest edited Amharic bible ( 81 books) ,tells Moses as descendant of Israel but does not say anything about his immediate ancestors be it Abraham, Noah etc lt says although Moses was Israeli but he was from ለዋውያን don't know English term of these people. Can you elaborate on this esp if you have Orthodox Tewahedo theology background? Oh, l just saw the listing of Moses lineage . So does ለዋውያን means Levi?