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[Odie]

If you don't Invest on people, industry, agriculture...etc. city corridor development is a vanity project of a megalomaniac

Abiyot and his prosperity gospel troops don't care about lifting people out of poverty per international recommended principles.

They drone the poor, they glitter cities while their bigger agenda is veneered. They chase out homeless from the city. They incarcerate mentally ill people, just to show the city is clean, for presumable tourists. Their bigger agenda is not really Ethiopia. It is the Oromo expansion, land grabbing, cultural invasion, tort, detention, abduction and money laundering. Infact, they hate Ethiopia.

They use the blanket Ethiopia; they fuel a nonexistent port issue which will never be attained while they are in office simply because they don't have the military or diplomatic power. It is people's brain wash project

They are in the marsh as they are hated by everybody, everywhere and there is no peace in their blood. Kill, kill, kill... can we even count how many they killed since they are in power? Their prosperity god is dictating them to uproot, kill until his prosperity agenda is done It is just believing a wild animal, happy killing everything trusting to develop, unify and pacify the country. Nope. Just a wild ride

So, the nation burning over the half (war) and they tell you Addis is mushrooming corridor development with buildings and roads which very soon could be ghost projects when Abiy is inevitably gone.

Shame on those 50 cent cadres, who equally don't care about people's lives and flood the social medic with vlogs of the "king", the "queen" and their vanity project called corridor development. You will be equally brought to justice one day if you are caught.

[Odie]

Gelatians 2:1-10
2 Then after fourteen years, I went up again to Jerusalem, this time with Barnabas. I took Titus along also. 2 I went in response to a revelation and, meeting privately with those esteemed as leaders, I presented to them the gospel that I preach among the Gentiles. I wanted to be sure I was not running and had not been running my race in vain. 3 Yet not even Titus, who was with me, was compelled to be circumcised, even though he was a Greek. 4 This matter arose because some false believers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves. 5 We did not give in to them for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might be preserved for you.

6 As for those who were held in high esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism—they added nothing to my message. 7 On the contrary, they recognized that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the uncircumcised,[a] just as Peter had been to the circumcised. 8 For God, who was at work in Peter as an apostle to the circumcised, was also at work in me as an apostle to the Gentiles. 9 James, Cephas[c] and John, those esteemed as pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised. 10 All they asked was that we should continue to remember the poor, the very thing I had been eager to do all along.

Although God is not against your prosperity, if done in the right way by you working on your sweat, his primary plan is salvation of your soul. Have a healthy, acceptable or normal life in this Earth. The gospel has never been preached for prosperity reason or earthly kingdoms. It's for the salvation of human soul, worshiping God in this planet and in heaven. You are expected to live a just and righteous life in Earth.

Genesis 3:22. NIV And the Lord God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil." It is in human hand to do right or wrong to yourself, the environment and everything else. You can invest in your health and need (God can help) but not at the cost of others in criminal way. God gave man the will power, the head to know bad and good in this life and it is up to everybody to decide how to live.

Why is PROSPERITY IS SOMETHING PEOPLE SEEK AT ANY COST WHEN THE BIBLE INFACT SAYS THIS?

Matthew 19:23-26 King James Version (KJV)
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

[Odie]

2 Timothy 3
The Dangers of the Last Days

1You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times. 2For people will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred. 3They will be unloving and unforgiving; they will slander others and have no self-control. They will be cruel and hate what is good. 4They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God. 5They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly. Stay away from people like that!

[Axumezana]

Odie I like your postings from the Bible but I am confused about how your criticism of the Ethiopia government and the Bible versus you mentioned are related. In addition are you opposing the efforts of the Ethiopian government to get us access to the Sea?

[Odie]

I think you are a confused christian, sad to say. See my other post after this. About right path to development.

Ethiopia is not in right political, economic or spiritual path.
You should be an idiot or PP convert if you can’t see what is going on.

What is going in right path in that country?

Have you read this morning the muzzled the only left Humqn Right institution?

I know you are ethnocrat and going to show me the bulshit constitution and ethnic ghettos.

I cut my talk bs you don’t deserve my respect when you are actually a ወያኔ supporting secessionist. Nothing can be wrong for you unless you get a head zapping!

[Axumezana]

Too emotional and arrogant response: Humble yourself and get prepared for an intellectual, respectful and constructive discussion.

[Odie]

Too emotional and arrogant response: Humble yourself and get prepared for an intellectual, respectful and constructive discussion.

Hold your horse. For sure I respect your right to your opinion. Try to see the other angle too or the flip side of your opinion too. I could not be humble to you firstly you were TPLF supporter and remain so with the new PP/OPDO leaning group, instead of having your own stand as educated person [than flip flopping]. Then again, you want to preach about the goods of Oromo first, poor hater, killer, vanity project developer and genocide comitting PP/OPDO/OLF/Shane. In fact, they exterminated your own people. What kind of though is this and what kind of person can do that? only sell out! The only thing I appreciate about you is when you stand against the insult of your people by shabea.

[Dama]

We are back to the reign of the monarchs, Haile Sellasie and Menelick. Every public policy had to be inspired, justified and implemented by God's grace. Baboon Horus has the same infection.

Ethiopia is damned!
Gurage is damned!
Secular politics is in their garbage bins!

[Odie]

[Sadacha Macca]

Tigrayan sister Oldie,

Blaming the Oromo for the actions of a handful of elites is unjust to say the least. It's fine if you hate us Oromos but at least be honest about it and stop pretending to be some pious & fair Christian. You're making Christians look bad if anything.
Also you lose the right to complain about others generalizing about tigrayans or the gurages that you pretend to be...

[Odie]

[Odie]

Tigrayan sister Oldie,

Blaming the Oromo for the actions of a handful of elites is unjust to say the least. It's fine if you hate us Oromos but at least be honest about it and stop pretending to be some pious & fair Christian. You're making Christians look bad if anything.
Also you lose the right to complain about others generalizing about tigrayans or the gurages that you pretend to be...

Blaming the Oromo for the actions of a handful of elites is unjust to say the least[/color]

Hello Sadacha,
We discussed about a while ago. Yea, I understand the distinction. There are Oromos in whose name all the atrocities are committed by current system run by not so few Oromos. But they, who are running the system, are Oromos any way and Oromo name will not go clean. The stereotype calling may not also vanish because of them. I understand Abiy Ahmed may not even be pure Oromo. There have been already a lot of destructions and killing have occurred in the name of the Oromo turn. Your probably appear to be one the few people who is trying to distinguish between those who are oppressing in the name of the Oromo and the general Oroma mass. We understand that but quite a large number of Oromos together with their fans from other ethnics are exploiting the spoils of the system. And don't forget most big positions in the country are run by people from Oromo ethnic at this time. Most diaspora too support this technofascist to invest in their offer in Addis. In any case, if what you are saying is the case, Oromos have to stand against the PP/OPDO government like they did against TPLF. I know more recently there is a primordial sign of objection of the PP/OPDO system by some of the Oromo elites of the likes of Jawar, Hezekiel etc.. We will see if any further tangible opposition grows visa vis Fano resistance in Amhara region.
Nagati

[Dama]

Sadacha is a hybrid of Oromo and Silte. Sadacha is the name of an Oromo clan that is colonizing the Jimma area, begining in the 1840s. They are different from the Mecca-Tulema of central Ethiopia and the Itu-Qotus of Hararge. They may be close to the Jidas and Amayas who settled on Gurage lands.
He is making all efforts to establish his arse in Oromo by feeling for Oromo more than a full-fledged Oromo would.

[Sadacha Macca]

Tigrayan sister Oldie,

Blaming the Oromo for the actions of a handful of elites is unjust to say the least. It's fine if you hate us Oromos but at least be honest about it and stop pretending to be some pious & fair Christian. You're making Christians look bad if anything.
Also you lose the right to complain about others generalizing about tigrayans or the gurages that you pretend to be...

Blaming the Oromo for the actions of a handful of elites is unjust to say the least[/color]

Hello Sadacha,
We discussed about a while ago. Yea, I understand the distinction. There are Oromos in whose name all the atrocities are committed by current system run by not so few Oromos. But they, who are running the system, are Oromos any way and Oromo name will not go clean. The stereotype calling may not also vanish because of them. I understand Abiy Ahmed may not even be pure Oromo. There have been already a lot of destructions and killing have occurred in the name of the Oromo turn. Your probably appear to be one the few people who is trying to distinguish between those who are oppressing in the name of the Oromo and the general Oroma mass. We understand that but quite a large number of Oromos together with their fans from other ethnics are exploiting the spoils of the system. And don't forget most big positions in the country are run by people from Oromo ethnic at this time. Most diaspora too support this technofascist to invest in their offer in Addis. In any case, if what you are saying is the case, Oromos have to stand against the PP/OPDO government like they did against TPLF. I know more recently there is a primordial sign of objection of the PP/OPDO system by some of the Oromo elites of the likes of Jawar, Hezekiel etc.. We will see if any further tangible opposition grows visa vis Fano resistance in Amhara region.
Nagati

You're basically still trying to justify blaming ALL Oromos for the crimes of a few. Once again, it's fine if you hate all Oromos, but it's not okay when you pretend to be some fair and just Christian. Stop the fake righteous act. You're still here generalizing and blaming us all. You're seeking to justify the unjustifiable hatred of all Oromos. Just admit that you hate us all tigrayan sister odie, no need to keep pretending. It's okay. Everyone is not going to like everyone in life. That's to be expected.
Oromos were resisting opdo before tplf fled to mekelle and still are, but if you expect us to once again pay the biggest price in blood and treasure, so that others can come to power on the struggles of the Oromo; You're going to be disappointed.
Those who are fighting opdo now aka fano and others, may very well be just as bad and anti oromo as the opdo, so do not foolishly and naively expect oromos to facilitate the coming to power of another anti oromo dictatorship. Going from one dictatorship to another isn't progress and that's the perpetual cycle Ethiopia has been trapped in: replacing one dictatorship with another.

[Dama]

Tigrayan sister Oldie,

Blaming the Oromo for the actions of a handful of elites is unjust to say the least. It's fine if you hate us Oromos but at least be honest about it and stop pretending to be some pious & fair Christian. You're making Christians look bad if anything.
Also you lose the right to complain about others generalizing about tigrayans or the gurages that you pretend to be...

Blaming the Oromo for the actions of a handful of elites is unjust to say the least[/color]

Hello Sadacha,
We discussed about a while ago. Yea, I understand the distinction. There are Oromos in whose name all the atrocities are committed by current system run by not so few Oromos. But they, who are running the system, are Oromos any way and Oromo name will not go clean. The stereotype calling may not also vanish because of them. I understand Abiy Ahmed may not even be pure Oromo. There have been already a lot of destructions and killing have occurred in the name of the Oromo turn. Your probably appear to be one the few people who is trying to distinguish between those who are oppressing in the name of the Oromo and the general Oroma mass. We understand that but quite a large number of Oromos together with their fans from other ethnics are exploiting the spoils of the system. And don't forget most big positions in the country are run by people from Oromo ethnic at this time. Most diaspora too support this technofascist to invest in their offer in Addis. In any case, if what you are saying is the case, Oromos have to stand against the PP/OPDO government like they did against TPLF. I know more recently there is a primordial sign of objection of the PP/OPDO system by some of the Oromo elites of the likes of Jawar, Hezekiel etc.. We will see if any further tangible opposition grows visa vis Fano resistance in Amhara region.
Nagati

You're basically still trying to justify blaming ALL Oromos for the crimes of a few. Once again, it's fine if you hate all Oromos, but it's not okay when you pretend to be some fair and just Christian. Stop the fake righteous act. You're still here generalizing and blaming us all. You're seeking to justify the unjustifiable hatred of all Oromos. Just admit that you hate us all tigrayan sister odie, no need to keep pretending. It's okay. Everyone is not going to like everyone in life. That's to be expected.
Oromos were resisting opdo before tplf fled to mekelle and still are, but if you expect us to once again pay the biggest price in blood and treasure, so that others can come to power on the struggles of the Oromo; You're going to be disappointed.
Those who are fighting opdo now aka fano and others, may very well be just as bad and anti oromo as the opdo, so do not foolishly and naively expect oromos to facilitate the coming to power of another anti oromo dictatorship. Going from one dictatorship to another isn't progress and that's the perpetual cycle Ethiopia has been trapped in: replacing one dictatorship with another.

Dummy
All he said was that crimes against Ethiopia is being committed by Oromo leaders of the PP in the name of the Oromo people. The Oromos should disown it if they are not benefitting from it and if they are being exploited by it as they turfed out the TPLF. He even offered to wait and if the new rhetorics by Jawar and Ezekiel would bear any fruit.

[Odie]

Dummy
All he said was that crimes against Ethiopia is being committed by Oromo leaders of the PP in the name of the Oromo people. The Oromos should disown it if they are not benefitting from it and if they are being exploited by it as they turfed out the TPLF. He even offered to wait and if the new rhetorics by Jawar and Ezekiel would bear any fruit.

That is a generous response and paraphrasing.

No additional response from my side.

[Dama]

Dummy
All he said was that crimes against Ethiopia is being committed by Oromo leaders of the PP in the name of the Oromo people. The Oromos should disown it if they are not benefitting from it and if they are being exploited by it as they turfed out the TPLF. He even offered to wait and if the new rhetorics by Jawar and Ezekiel would bear any fruit.

That is a generous response and paraphrasing.

No additional response from my side.

When you are right, you're my brother.

[Sadacha Macca]

Tigrayan sister Oldie,

Blaming the Oromo for the actions of a handful of elites is unjust to say the least. It's fine if you hate us Oromos but at least be honest about it and stop pretending to be some pious & fair Christian. You're making Christians look bad if anything.
Also you lose the right to complain about others generalizing about tigrayans or the gurages that you pretend to be...

Blaming the Oromo for the actions of a handful of elites is unjust to say the least[/color]

Hello Sadacha,
We discussed about a while ago. Yea, I understand the distinction. There are Oromos in whose name all the atrocities are committed by current system run by not so few Oromos. But they, who are running the system, are Oromos any way and Oromo name will not go clean. The stereotype calling may not also vanish because of them. I understand Abiy Ahmed may not even be pure Oromo. There have been already a lot of destructions and killing have occurred in the name of the Oromo turn. Your probably appear to be one the few people who is trying to distinguish between those who are oppressing in the name of the Oromo and the general Oroma mass. We understand that but quite a large number of Oromos together with their fans from other ethnics are exploiting the spoils of the system. And don't forget most big positions in the country are run by people from Oromo ethnic at this time. Most diaspora too support this technofascist to invest in their offer in Addis. In any case, if what you are saying is the case, Oromos have to stand against the PP/OPDO government like they did against TPLF. I know more recently there is a primordial sign of objection of the PP/OPDO system by some of the Oromo elites of the likes of Jawar, Hezekiel etc.. We will see if any further tangible opposition grows visa vis Fano resistance in Amhara region.
Nagati

You're basically still trying to justify blaming ALL Oromos for the crimes of a few. Once again, it's fine if you hate all Oromos, but it's not okay when you pretend to be some fair and just Christian. Stop the fake righteous act. You're still here generalizing and blaming us all. You're seeking to justify the unjustifiable hatred of all Oromos. Just admit that you hate us all tigrayan sister odie, no need to keep pretending. It's okay. Everyone is not going to like everyone in life. That's to be expected.
Oromos were resisting opdo before tplf fled to mekelle and still are, but if you expect us to once again pay the biggest price in blood and treasure, so that others can come to power on the struggles of the Oromo; You're going to be disappointed.
Those who are fighting opdo now aka fano and others, may very well be just as bad and anti oromo as the opdo, so do not foolishly and naively expect oromos to facilitate the coming to power of another anti oromo dictatorship. Going from one dictatorship to another isn't progress and that's the perpetual cycle Ethiopia has been trapped in: replacing one dictatorship with another.

Dummy
All he said was that crimes against Ethiopia is being committed by Oromo leaders of the PP in the name of the Oromo people. The Oromos should disown it if they are not benefitting from it and if they are being exploited by it as they turfed out the TPLF. He even offered to wait and if the new rhetorics by Jawar and Ezekiel would bear any fruit.

That's not all that he said. Also the logic is illogical. If one man commits a crime in the name of others, others who did not commit the crime or facilitate it at ALL; then what? They share in the blame of an act they had nothing to do with? That makes no sense. As I said before, if you hate all Oromos, that's fine, just say that then. No need to pretend to be some self righteous Christian when you're obviously NOT. The Oromo have always been the primary targets and victims of the Opdo, since they were created in the last days of the derg (when they were formed by tplf and shabia) to counter the OLF and keep Oromos subjugated.
Oromos ain't gonna struggle for others to exploit us again. We've learned from those past mistakes.

And who cares what odie aka possibly another one of your tplf cyber troll accounts offered? Who is he or she to offer anything? No one. You think too highly of your irrelevant tplf cyber troll accounts dude.

[Dama]

Always intrigued about Gurage/Ormo mixed marriages and ethnic identities of the childelren. If you can share your influences that formed your Ormo identity than that of Gurage.
Is it that your dad is Oromo and mom Gurage..Silte but a subset of Gurage, and Oromo dad is dominant in the ethnic identity formation of the children than the mom
Or the environment in which you grew up was a heavily Oromo dominated culture? Which of which formed your Oromo nationalism.
What would the identities of Ras Gobena Dace and his Gurage wife would be? Both were Shewans.

I appreciate your inputs!