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No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Dama » 22 Dec 2024, 15:23

A triangle of friends! Hi 5s, kisses and well wishes were abundant among themselves in their glorious days of unity and love.

To gain power over the rest of Ethiopians, both TPLF and OLF/OPDO looked for help from EPLF and obtained it. When fracture between TPLF and OLF/OPDO arose due to popular protests, OLF/OPDO again sought the help of EPLF to destroy TPLF to sleep well at Arat Kilo. And then again, a critical difference arose between EPLF and OLF/OPDO.

I washed off my hands. I am not willing to soil them for OLF/OPDO that denied Gurage its lawful right to its own region.

Fano was also right in declaring that Eritrea is not their enemy.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Odie » 22 Dec 2024, 16:16

It would be the best thing to happen to us.
All these filth eat one another and who know a new seed will grow from the dust.
Look who is fighting who in this forum and how they trap and insult the innocent public.
Shabeans are fully trapped in the Ethiopian business in the process insulting all of us beyond their capacity can allow them.
OPDO/PP/OLF/Jawar team infighting each other!
OPDO/PP officially traing Shabea opposition fake or real no body sure.
Amhara activists visiting shabea Asmara like Obo B.Nega did in the past.
I don’t trust shabea meaningfully supports Fano because shabea plays game without commitment. We remember the G7 and others hiding there were toothless oppositions.
Amhara only gun no political mouth; sad to say and the gun guys are power mongoring among themselves, infighting prolonging their public suffering. Eskender his name already tarnished and not expected to deliver unless he breaks a deal with other Fano group and relinquish any higher position he wants to assume. Also the role of Zemene as a political hawk is questionable from his history with Birhanu in the field in Eritrea. If he is good militarily, he should play that role and organize the fire work. Otherwise there may be no progress or will culminate in liquidation or prolongation of the struggle. Also whether Fano goal is Ethiopia or seccession of Amhara is often ambiguously raised question that needs clear answer from the sects of Fano if there are any. Otherwise, if Fano goal is Ethiopia, they have to be hawkish to reach out or involve others be agew or southerner or Oromo.
The new twist is among Oromos themselves that can potentially cloud Fano or tactically or strategically involve Fano. That would be the Oromo wing of Jawar et al fighting Abiot Ahmed by the same strategy they ousted TPLF. Jawar’s recent revival with his book, fleeing keny may indicate that. But not sure if the old Kero animal is still there as they like hyena might have filled their belly with their spoils like corrupted money, land etc or if they are already morally destroyed by Abiys war throughout the country. This will be to bee seen.
In any case Abiy has multiplied his enemies for his own down fall and seeing that happen soon would be sweet because he betrayed the Ethiopian people who trusted him into office.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Dama » 22 Dec 2024, 17:23

Odie wrote:
22 Dec 2024, 16:16
It would be the best thing to happen to us.
All these filth eat one another and who know a new seed will grow from the dust.
Look who is fighting who in this forum and how they trap and insult the innocent public.
Shabeans are fully trapped in the Ethiopian business in the process insulting all of us beyond their capacity can allow them.
OPDO/PP/OLF/Jawar team infighting each other!
OPDO/PP officially traing Shabea opposition fake or real no body sure.
Amhara activists visiting shabea Asmara like Obo B.Nega did in the past.
I don’t trust shabea meaningfully supports Fano because shabea plays game without commitment. We remember the G7 and others hiding there were toothless oppositions.
Amhara only gun no political mouth; sad to say and the gun guys are power mongoring among themselves, infighting prolonging their public suffering. Eskender his name already tarnished and not expected to deliver unless he breaks a deal with other Fano group and relinquish any higher position he wants to assume. Also the role of Zemene as a political hawk is questionable from his history with Birhanu in the field in Eritrea. If he is good militarily, he should play that role and organize the fire work. Otherwise there may be no progress or will culminate in liquidation or prolongation of the struggle. Also whether Fano goal is Ethiopia or seccession of Amhara is often ambiguously raised question that needs clear answer from the sects of Fano if there are any. Otherwise, if Fano goal is Ethiopia, they have to be hawkish to reach out or involve others be agew or southerner or Oromo.
The new twist is among Oromos themselves that can potentially cloud Fano or tactically or strategically involve Fano. That would be the Oromo wing of Jawar et al fighting Abiot Ahmed by the same strategy they ousted TPLF. Jawar’s recent revival with his book, fleeing keny may indicate that. But not sure if the old Kero animal is still there as they like hyena might have filled their belly with their spoils like corrupted money, land etc or if they are already morally destroyed by Abiys war throughout the country. This will be to bee seen.
In any case Abiy has multiplied his enemies for his own down fall and seeing that happen soon would be sweet because he betrayed the Ethiopian people who trusted him into office.
Such uncertain times, such fractured Ethiopian politics has existed since 1975. I do not blame the groups you mentioned have not done things to my pleasure. I feel I have not done enough to place Gurage where it woould not lose unity and survive the chaos. I rather feel I have not organized Gurage to cope with Ethiopian political changes and adabt to their twists and turns.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Odie » 22 Dec 2024, 19:42

True!
I feel same way because there is not much hope things to be peaceful soone.
Even ወያኔ tries እንደአቅሚቲ
The broke Shabea still Ethiopia’s parasite-piggyback
Oromos will never be peaceful: either will eat each other or fight with others
Gurage: to be frank with you I don’t have any connection except with family. But concerning time. Instead of being a spectator or butler to the ruling body, it should seriously work to bring unity in itself and take a strong position on its future and defending itself. You know what I mean. I hope there are some working overtly or covertly that way.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Dama » 22 Dec 2024, 21:20

Odie wrote:
22 Dec 2024, 19:42
True!
I feel same way because there is not much hope things to be peaceful soone.
Even ወያኔ tries እንደአቅሚቲ
The broke Shabea still Ethiopia’s parasite-piggyback
Oromos will never be peaceful: either will eat each other or fight with others
Gurage: to be frank with you I don’t have any connection except with family. But concerning time. Instead of being a spectator or butler to the ruling body, it should seriously work to bring unity in itself and take a strong position on its future and defending itself. You know what I mean. I hope there are some working overtly or covertly that way.
Gurage is not organized politically means overwhelming majoriry of Gurages, 95-98% of them live individually, in apolitical families, without political cohesion, due to lack of leadership. I am in an exact situation like yourself. I only talk to my family members.
Even when family households come together for wedings, holidays, individuals may exchange current news of Ethiopia or incidents in Gurage but there exists no Gurage nationalist movement championed by a vanguard Gurage party.
There is the Gogot: a Gurage Justice Party established about 3 or 4 years ago but it immesiately suffered arrests, beatings and confiscation of its office equipment by the Abiy Ahmed's PP.
Many of the former Gurage Zone elected representatives who voted for the creation of a Gurage Region as allowed by the current Constitution of Ethiopia, 1995, are still in prison, now in their 3rd year, abandoned. No one protests or demands their release.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Odie » 22 Dec 2024, 22:55

Dama wrote:
22 Dec 2024, 21:20
Odie wrote:
22 Dec 2024, 19:42
True!
I feel same way because there is not much hope things to be peaceful soone.
Even ወያኔ tries እንደአቅሚቲ
The broke Shabea still Ethiopia’s parasite-piggyback
Oromos will never be peaceful: either will eat each other or fight with others
Gurage: to be frank with you I don’t have any connection except with family. But concerning time. Instead of being a spectator or butler to the ruling body, it should seriously work to bring unity in itself and take a strong position on its future and defending itself. You know what I mean. I hope there are some working overtly or covertly that way.
Gurage is not organized politically means overwhelming majoriry of Gurages, 95-98% of them live individually, in apolitical families, without political cohesion, due to lack of leadership. I am in an exact situation like yourself. I only talk to my family members.
Even when family households come together for wedings, holidays, individuals may exchange current news of Ethiopia or incidents in Gurage but there exists no Gurage nationalist movement championed by a vanguard Gurage party.
There is the Gogot: a Gurage Justice Party established about 3 or 4 years ago but it immesiately suffered arrests, beatings and confiscation of its office equipment by the Abiy Ahmed's PP.
Many of the former Gurage Zone elected representatives who voted for the creation of a Gurage Region as allowed by the current Constitution of Ethiopia, 1995, are still in prison, now in their 3rd year, abandoned. No one protests or demands their release.
That is right. I heard about GOGOT but I do remember they chased and imprisoned them. The fearless guy who was E-zama member who was ousted by Birhanu, I think from Eza is still in prison. Diaspora Gurage should have somehow organized themselves to help them financially. I heard about one organization but did not follow up as it was more of religion based charity arrangement.
I was ardent supporter of Fano at the beginning hoping they would be hope of Ethiopia but you know what happened. Now no body knows who has what political program at all. What we just hear all the time is infighting with words. They want ethnics to leave them alone and many of us left alone. They can do whatever is good for them!

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Dama » 22 Dec 2024, 23:13

Many Gurages are like you. They hope Amara will establish Ethiopianist party and join them. They have no apetite for a party of the Gurage Nation or People.

Even when the stark clarity of the Amara nationalist political movement comfronts them right in their faces, they fail to take note of the Ethiopian nationwide political trend is to organize and unite ethnically.

I see it as negligence. We will pay for it dearly. We already do.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Odie » 22 Dec 2024, 23:45

Don’t make a mistake. Things change. Ethiopian society has changed after ethnic bombardment. Even the majority of Amhara ethnic has changed. Only those who grew in Addis or other parts of Ethiopia, who had grown in mixed setting are still talking about Ethiopia. Also the more Abiy drones and kills them in the name of Ethiopia they may find a way to hate Ethiopia more and focus on their ethnics. The same is true to people like me. The more you don’t find alignment with your ethnic or the ethiopianism, you move to appreciate your current home country closer to appreciate the value of your new country. So you saying that all gurage cling to Amhara does not hold water now. Many already cling to Oromuma with Gurage news in OBN. Shame. Old loyalists to Ethiopia may still have amhara favor due to the history of Amhara loyalty to Ethiopia but a lot of things are changing as we speak for good or bad.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Dama » 22 Dec 2024, 23:54

What good does it do for Gurage if its folks shift from being loyal to Amara conception of Ethiopia to that of Oromo? They can't escape the nationalism of either but they hate the nationalism of theirs. Self-hate?

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Dama » 23 Dec 2024, 00:31

All Ethiopian ethnic groups in diaspora have their own community association: Tigrey, Oromo, Somali, even the smallest of groups such as Harari and Anuak have community associations. They have offices with addresses and phone numbers. If for a example a Tigrey individual comes to Toronto, Canada, googles the Togrey community association for help or any thing, he could find the physical address and phone number.

On the other hand, of you come to Toronto, wanted to meet a Gurage and google a Gurage community association, google will return 0 found. Its because a Gurage community association does not exist. Your best bet is to google the Ethiopian community association. A Gurage person you wanted to meet, you wont get him.
Most likely, you will meet an Amara, who will make sure to know what ethnic group you belong to. Such strong is Amara identity. They want to know sho you are. Not that it is bad. They do that even among themselces. Their tradition emphasizes that they count up to 7 generation to identify familyhood.

Already, Amara/Gurage divorce is getting nastier. Divorc? Nit quite. Complaints of neglect. Disrespect.

This year Gurages complained that they had been discriminated for the past 40 years in the North America Football Association. That they were not allowed to invite a Gueage Musician for the celebrations. Even once in 40 years?
But, they do not seem to say enough is enough and start a Gurage community association of their own.

Something is wrong.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Odie » 23 Dec 2024, 11:11

Dama wrote:
23 Dec 2024, 00:31
All Ethiopian ethnic groups in diaspora have their own community association: Tigrey, Oromo, Somali, even the smallest of groups such as Harari and Anuak have community associations. They have offices with addresses and phone numbers. If for a example a Tigrey individual comes to Toronto, Canada, googles the Togrey community association for help or any thing, he could find the physical address and phone number.

On the other hand, of you come to Toronto, wanted to meet a Gurage and google a Gurage community association, google will return 0 found. Its because a Gurage community association does not exist. Your best bet is to google the Ethiopian community association. A Gurage person you wanted to meet, you wont get him.
Most likely, you will meet an Amara, who will make sure to know what ethnic group you belong to. Such strong is Amara identity. They want to know sho you are. Not that it is bad. They do that even among themselces. Their tradition emphasizes that they count up to 7 generation to identify familyhood.

Already, Amara/Gurage divorce is getting nastier. Divorc? Nit quite. Complaints of neglect. Disrespect.

This year Gurages complained that they had been discriminated for the past 40 years in the North America Football Association. That they were not allowed to invite a Gueage Musician for the celebrations. Even once in 40 years?
But, they do not seem to say enough is enough and start a Gurage community association of their own.

Something is wrong.
The problem with Gurage region even according to Paul Henz hypothesis was historically very decentralized and separated by mountains as a result of which regions were very independent and even varied by accent of their spoken language. This is true even in Amhara between different Kifle-hegere there is accent difference. Because of that decentralization, people now have difficulty working together of getting unified. Each region has developed its own pride seeking its own superiority or self-control. More importantly, the central government or a gang of another ethnic promotes that division of Gurage too. So, Gurage remains having trouble to come together again. Also, Gurage like Amhara is addicted to central government, meaning bows to central government or law and order than the lawless technofascist TPLF-Tigray and Oromo-OLF/PP/OPDO. Also, the more you are educated, you feel it is too narrow to be ethnocentric. All these affected Gurage to unify and help itself even under Ethiopian umbrella and the central gov sees to destroy that specially now the Oromo technofascists don't want to see organized Gurage as you know they feel Gurage will precipitate toward Amhara/Tigre semitic line politically and not ethnocentrist.
I myself would love to help the region I came from with what I can but if you asked me would favor the unity and strength of the nation than flourishing Ethnic division. Means, it would be good for Gurage to unify for development, political reason as well as defending itself. However, we are civilized enough to advocate for the survival of Ethiopia and the two agenda should not be contradicting. Even in federalist or centrist Ethiopia, Gurage or even other ethnics could have opportunity to promote their culture, language and identity etc. That should not be a problem. The problem is that gang politicians took that to level of our destruction. Moving between Amhara alliance to Oromo alliance is absurd. Oromo technofascist alliance is just for getting benefit. It has no philosophical or logical value. Amhara alliance mostly comes from love of the country as Amhara in Ethiopian history was known for its loyalty to the country. We also cannot deny of existence of cultural and linguistic root similarity. I don't see why any Gurage should worry having good relationship with Amhara now or in the future. The problem is Gurage not being able to do its own homework at home which has nothing to do with Amhara or Ethiopia.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Dama » 23 Dec 2024, 12:37

Paul B.Henze was a CIA official, a writer and broadcaster and a staunch anti-socialism. Not an authority on sociology or linguistics. As such he has no clue what causes a division of a language to form dialects. Despite dialect differences, or some regions having flat or hilly terrains, there were many times Gurages formed unity. Under a dedicated and wise leadership, Gurage can be united despite the minor dialect and religious differences. His hypothesis is based on nothing.

If you condemn the nationalist movements of Tigrey, Oromo, Sidama, Somali, Anuaks and Nuers, as ONLY evils without merits of their own minus their wrongs, without historical and contemporary necessities, as against the Ethiopia of the present whose final form took shape in 1945 when Afar ended its autonomy and joined Ethiopia, erected by the similar nationalist movement of Shewa Amara, you're defeating your intention for the Gurage national political movement. If you enquire why Tewodros unified Amara and Tigrey, why Shewa expanded and annexed hitherto self-governing nations of in southwest, southeast and south, you will know that European colonialism was the advisor, financier and weapons supplier. These bandits did not unite these autonomous people that have lived as such for 1000 of years with soft gloves. They Butchered, Arsoned, Dispossessed, Displaced, and sold as slaves. You should revisit your Amara supremacist and benevolent view. You should narrow your view to the crimes of the leaders. The goodness of the people does not exonerate the crimes of their leaders.

Again,the nationalist movements, in your denigrative language of ethnocentrism, are 'narrow' political games of the uneducated is blatantly untrue. Obviously, you have not inquired into the levels of education of the leaderships of the nationalist movements of TPLF, OLF, SLF, ONLF.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Odie » 23 Dec 2024, 19:33

What subject did you study? Archeology/Ethnography? I presumed you studied language/english.
I suspect you have ethnocentrist position ?! I am not. In fact I hate ethnocentrism. However, that does not mean I hate my ethnic or other ethnics.
My globalist and nationalist idea probably emanates from my belief system. Christianity revolves arround humanity irrespective of race and ethnicity. We are humans first.
Also, the more educated and civilized people become, they come to understand our fate is the same and you feel being ethnocentric is simply too narrow to follow.
You live in a developed world where people of the world live more or less in peace and harmony.
Why the hell I be ethnic animal when the whole purpose of life is more than that.
I have no problem for people to gather arround their ethnic as far as they don’t create a havoc and work together to help themselves.
Whoever has formed ethiopia, by whichever way it was formed, whoever helped to form it, gave us a precious gift. A country. I don’t want to live in the past. If possible, we should make this country a livable and peaceful place than a place of myhem. Gurage unity and organizing itself politically has nothing to do this. Whether Ethiopia continues or not, it is good for Gurage to organize and unite. But I don’t see that happening although some people tried and are paying the price. So, I repeat, although I have no problem ethnics organizing themselves and taking their cultural stuff their way without conflicting with law or the greater good of the nation/country, I support one nation idea. I am not ethnocentric stupid if you want me be blunt. I am not going to think that way.
With regard to Paul Henz, yes he was ወያኔ too. Unfortunately, wikipedia wrote his idea about gurage as if he was a scientist. Addis Ababa University had even a gurage history professor who did not want to utter a good deal about the history of Gurage.
Finally, I don’t think you and me are going to change any thing based on the exchange we have on the forum. Try to reach out to those who appear well organized and engaged in Gurage issue.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Dama » 23 Dec 2024, 22:18

Not ethnocentric. But Amaracentric or Amaraphile(Amara lover or worshiper). I would dare to describe you as Amara supremacist. I think you would take that as a credit, an acknowledgement of who you think you are with pride for it makes you feel civilized, as your EOC christianity taught you. And an Ethiopianist of with Amara First mantra than a nationalist animal, in your own word an uncivilized narrow ethnocentric animal who fails to love the humanity of all Ethiopians as opposed to the Christianity preached to you by melting-pot Amarannet that has long been discredited for equaluty of nations and nationalities. For uncivlized narrow animals you would give list TPLF, OLF, EPLF, SLF, ONLF, etc as examples of evils. Btw these are majority of Ethiopians. And, you think its because they are not Christians enough, not reaching the civilzed consciousness level by their Christianity education, therefore not civilized enough to adopt the slogan of humanity first and love of themselves second.

I have read more than wikipedia on Gurage. You asked me for references to read on Gurage and gave you a bunch of links to internet resources. You were luck than I was. I could not ask anyone. There were no discussion forums like this. I had to go to libraries to read on Gurage.
But, you did not read any of links that are a click away. You rather everythong form your EOC bible point of view.
Thats damned!

Ethiopia will exist in its present geography as long as AU maintains the present colonial boundaries of Africa. Or you could say, AU will exist as long as US and EU wants it to exist. Also, Ethiopia will exist as long as the conqurerred nations military and diplomatic efforts dwarfs those of Ethiopia. For example Tigray: has its robust military and excellent political leadership. In very good diplomatic relationship with US and EU. Chraged Ethiopia with genocides, crimes against humanity, rapes and plunders. It could easily be granted exit from Ethiopia that committed such heinous crimes. Rumours are that Ethiopia asked US and EU to intervene in the Tigrey desire to secede.
So your Ethiopia is a fruit of horrendous crimes. If you were true Christian, you would comdemn such facade built on crimes.

Good you admitted you won't be useful for Gurage nationalism.

I am no linguist nor sociologist. If you have doubts that Zionist CIA spy was no linguist, read on him.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Dama » 23 Dec 2024, 23:02

These facts you don't know or seem not to know.
1. Gurage language is closer to Tigrinya than Amharic
Do you research.
2. Tigreys Christianized Agews and from Christian Agews, Amara speaking group emerged. In other words, Tigreys christianized Amara and birthed it.

3. If your indebtedness to Amara is for bringing you the light of Christ, Amaras should have been indebted to Tigrey for Chrstianizing them.

On African level, all Christians such as Nigerians, Ghanians, Congolese, Cameroonians, Togolese, Mozambiqueans, South Africans should feel indebted to their colonizers for bringing them Christianity.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Odie » 24 Dec 2024, 04:28

Dama wrote:
23 Dec 2024, 23:02
These facts you don't know or seem not to know.
1. Gurage language is closer to Tigrinya than Amharic
Do you research.
2. Tigreys Christianized Agews and from Christian Agews, Amara speaking group emerged. In other words, Tigreys christianized Amara and birthed it.

3. If your indebtedness to Amara is for bringing you the light of Christ, Amaras should have been indebted to Tigrey for Chrstianizing them.

On African level, all Christians such as Nigerians, Ghanians, Congolese, Cameroonians, Togolese, Mozambiqueans, South Africans should feel indebted to their colonizers for bringing them Christianity.
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These facts you don't know or seem not to know.
1. Gurage language is closer to Tigrinya than Amharic
Do you research.
IT DOESNOT MATER; THEY ARE ALL SEMETIC. I don’t think it has practical significance as far as day to day life concerned. Amharic is the most widely spoken and used. You have to use english whether you like it or not. I don’t care where amharic came from as far as it serves its purpose. That is more of academic exercise.


2. Tigreys Christianized Agews and from Christian Agews, Amara speaking group emerged. In other words, Tigreys christianized Amara and birthed it.
I am not interested in whether Tigray was a source of this or that. What all i know is, if you think Ethiopia was created by Amhara, Tigray destroyed it serving the higher bidders.

3. If your indebtedness to Amara is for bringing you the light of Christ, Amaras should have been indebted to Tigrey for Chrstianizing them.
You are losing your ground. Be rational. EoC is not Amhara. It is everybody’s. It was started in Axum; don’t link it with Amhara like Oromo Ethnofascists and muslim extremists. Also, I am not christened by Amhara. Don’t bring Amhara for this to because you hate Amhara. Eventually you begin to show your colour that your political thought set is twisted by TPLF ethnic mantra. I have a principle to follow and I refuse to be drawn into ethnic hair splitting. All this stupid ethnic mantra is the reason for the doom and the fact the throat of people are slashed. Be human and move away from narrow ethnic view. አይመጥንህም!!

On African level, all Christians such as Nigerians, Ghanians, Congolese, Cameroonians, Togolese, Mozambiqueans, South Africans should feel indebted to their colonizers for bringing them Christianity.

No, there is no indebtedness to anyone. Ideally the torch of witnessing christianity passing it over to non christianity was not supposed to be associated with exploitation or colonialism. It was used for exploitation by evil men.
This is the command by Jesus:

ማርቆስ 16:15፤ እንዲህም አላቸው፦ “ወደ ዓለም ሁሉ ሂዱ፡ ወንጌልንም ለፍጥረት ሁሉ ስበኩ። The gospel was supposed to be passed over with no string attached.

ዮሐንስ 13:34፤ እርስ በርሳችሁ ትዋደዱ ዘንድ፥ እንደ ወደድኋችሁ እናንተ ደግሞ እርስ በርሳችሁ ትዋደዱ ዘንድ አዲስ ትእዛዝ እሰጣችኋለሁ። ዮሐንስ 13:35፤ እርስ በርሳችሁ ፍቅር ቢኖራችሁ፥ ደቀ መዛሙርቴ እንደ ሆናችሁ ሰዎች ሁሉ በዚህ ያውቃሉ።”

Don’t be Amhara hater or christian hater. Spread the love!

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Odie » 24 Dec 2024, 04:42

There are a lot of operatives in this forum. Egyptian trained on the ethnic differences and all other Ethiopian soft spots and Shabea trained Eritrean and Somali bigots who know the ethnic, geographic and economic fabrics as well as the fault lines of Ethiopia.
Their job: manipulation and initiation of ethnic infighting and disintegration of Ethiopia starting more than half a century back. They even succeeded. The OPDO/PP system is leftover of their making.
You are either trapped in that trap or you are part of the traing. You associate every predicament with Amhara and Christianity which are no more even a burden on you. They are fighting for their own survival but you still wave your finger their direction for your problem. Your new master in home is Oromo ethnofascism and East North Gurage willingly submitting to them. Deal with that.
Done

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Dama » 24 Dec 2024, 09:43

Tandu! Tandu!
Allow me to rename you TANDU out of prison
You don't read history, politics, linguistics. The only basis of your world view is the Bible and anti-pluralist melting pot media.
As you said, you don't care about the wrongs that depraved justice, equality and freedoms of the Ethiopian people.

Very dangerous figure to the political progress of Ethiopia! Hope many of you don't exist in Gurage.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Odie » 24 Dec 2024, 10:58

Dama
እንዲህ አነበብን የሚሉ አወቅን የሚሉ ጥራዝ ነጠቆች አይመስሉህም የበሽታችን ምንጭ?
ዋለልኝ መኮንን
መለስ ዜናዊ
አብዮት አህመድ
የሁዋላ ሁላ መንጌ
ይቀጥላል
መልካም ግብረ ገብነት ከአስተዳደግ ፈጣሪን ከማመን ከቤተስብ እድገት ይመጣል እንጂ ስዎች አጋንንት ተሞልተው የፃፍዋቸውን መፃህፍት በማንበብ ወይም የተሽቃቀጠ የታሪክና ጊዜ የሚለውጠው የሳይንስ መፅሃፍት በማንበብ አይመጣም::
በባህላችን አሳዳጊ የበደለው የሚባለው ለዚህ ነው:: የአገር አስፈላጊነትና ህዝብ ሁሉ የሚናገረው ቋንቋ ጠቃሚነት ለማወቅ የፈላስፋ መፅሃፍ ማንበብ አይጠበቅብህም::
ምንሊክ ከመቶ አመት በፊት የገባው የአገር እናትነት የማይገባው ካለ ድንጋይ ራስ ወያኔ ወይም ጎጠኞቹ የኦሮሞ ዘረኞች ካልሆኑ በስተቀር ሌላ ማንም ሊሆን አይችልም:: እነሱን በህጋዊ መንገድ ፎሪ ማስወጣት ግድ ነው!!
መፅሀፍ ቅዱስ በህይወት እያለህ ለስነምግባር ተስፋ ለብዙ ነገሮች መፍትሄና ምክር ያለው መፅሃፍ ነው:: አለም በሽፍጥ የተሞላች ስዎች ክፉዎች ሊሆኑ የሚችሉና operate የሚያረጋቸው spiritual ሃይል እንዳለም ያስተምርሃል:: ስው ወይ ለራሱ ወይ ለክፉ መንፈስ ወይ ለ እግዚአብሄር መንፈስ የሚታዘዝ compound ፍጥረት ነው:: All evil people do is not necessarily from themselves. Watch what you read, wish, talk and see. A wise person controls all his/her affair in all spheres.
I believe Ethiopia a beautiful and good country that did not get a humble, just and right CEO that can lead its people to the right destiny. There are multiple factors as to why we are not blessed with the right CEO. We are one of the reason and we contribute to that by blabbering what we know as well as we don’t.
I am not going to reduce my self to ethnic hair splitting. I am a human and will always oppose unjust perpetrated any where on any one even on muslims ( some time you feel they don’t get attention), if i know bad happened to them in unjust way. That is it. No ifs no buts.

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Re: No objections to EPLF dissing TPLF and OLF/OPDO

Post by Dama » 24 Dec 2024, 11:30

Ato Tandu, Ciao
Not much in common

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