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Dismantle ethnic federalism

Post by Noble Amhara » 26 Nov 2024, 19:06

Dismantle ethnic federalism

Every zone will become its self governing administration

Ethnic federalism disintegrates the countries ability to move forward towards democracy and modern forms of governance practiced in Western Europe, Canada and America also Russia is a good example

As long as you keep the kilils you keep the sinfegnas happy giving them grounds to operate inside these ethnic regions

The country should transition back to its original provincial system which was practiced for thousands of years

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Re: Dismantle ethnic federalism

Post by Naga Tuma » 26 Nov 2024, 19:35

Noble Amhara wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 19:06
Dismantle ethnic federalism

Every zone will become its self governing administration

Ethnic federalism disintegrates the countries ability to move forward towards democracy and modern forms of governance practiced in Western Europe, Canada and America also Russia is a good example

As long as you keep the kilils you keep the sinfegnas happy giving them grounds to operate inside these ethnic regions

The country should transition back to its original provincial system which was practiced for thousands of years
Did you by chance read something before you got up to write this piece?

I have been thinking whether what you called the “original provincial system,” assuming you mean the 14 provinces or the remaining ones or new administrative states studied by the new Ethiopian Universities as centers of excellence would work better for both the federal government and the people to govern themselves.

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Re: Dismantle ethnic federalism

Post by Dama » 26 Nov 2024, 20:09

Noble Amhara wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 19:06
Dismantle ethnic federalism

Every zone will become its self governing administration

Ethnic federalism disintegrates the countries ability to move forward towards democracy and modern forms of governance practiced in Western Europe, Canada and America also Russia is a good example

As long as you keep the kilils you keep the sinfegnas happy giving them grounds to operate inside these ethnic regions

The country should transition back to its original provincial system which was practiced for thousands of years
100%. Ethiopia needs it. It has become a shame for the continent of Africa. Ethnic politics is a form racist politics. Equality, fairness and merit are discredited and dispossed of for the supremacy of ethnicity.

Ethiopia may borrow the Philipines' province, region or state creation.principle. Very simple put:
1.Population size for a province to be determined by law. May 500, 000 at the minimum
2. Economic output to be determined by law.

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Re: Dismantle ethnic federalism

Post by Noble Amhara » 26 Nov 2024, 20:18

Dismantling ethnic federalism also means forwarding democracy

Parties should fight for seats during elections like the countries where the ungrateful diaspora live in not parties using bloodshed and chaos to gain political power. A civil nation is not built by endless fighting.

Fano must become a political party.

Ethiopia also needs ideological political parties

Having tribalist political parties bankrupts the country of intelligence leads to the lowering of IQ levels, intelligence and problem solving skills.

Imagine the only qualification is to be a tribalist think your tribe is better than others... cry only for your tribe... be silent when the other tribe suffers..... support the genocide of neighbouring tribes.. promote your tribe only etc... pure stupidity and genocidal behaviors that are largely animalistic and require no educational qualifications. :lol:

The whole purpose of EPRDF was to design Ethiopia into Yugoslavia so when weyane runs back to mekele Ethiopia collapses along ethno lines ...so a unified Ethiopia doesn't form to challenge the Adwa Mafia in Mekele

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Re: Dismantle ethnic federalism

Post by Odie » 26 Nov 2024, 20:29

Have not we been crying for removal of the ethnic federalism for over 30 years? Personally I have.
Apparently the Tigre and Oromo ethnofascists love it.
They have been slaughtering people to keep that. The Tigre paid enough price from what they invented. Still want it maintained. The Oromos are slaughtering people, their own and others, like an animal to maintain it. The Oromos and Tigre will keep fighting for ever for nothing any way. They seem doomed group. We are very unlucky we are frozen in time and space with them.
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what the country needs. Remove ethnic politics and it’s hate crime, disband or update the constitution, aspire to be a democratic nation abiding by rules and law then if necessary negotiate on everything else, respect it and go to work.
Who can give us that chance?
Even small region Somaliland appears to abide by law and function democratically, not Ethiopia that existed for at least more than a century!

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Re: Dismantle ethnic federalism

Post by Naga Tuma » 26 Nov 2024, 23:15

Odie wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 20:29
Have not we been crying for removal of the ethnic federalism for over 30 years? Personally I have.
Apparently the Tigre and Oromo ethnofascists love it.
They have been slaughtering people to keep that. The Tigre paid enough price from what they invented. Still want it maintained. The Oromos are slaughtering people, their own and others, like an animal to maintain it. The Oromos and Tigre will keep fighting for ever for nothing any way. They seem doomed group. We are very unlucky we are frozen in time and space with them.
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what the country needs. Remove ethnic politics and it’s hate crime, disband or update the constitution, aspire to be a democratic nation abiding by rules and law then if necessary negotiate on everything else, respect it and go to work.
Who can give us that chance?
Even small region Somaliland appears to abide by law and function democratically, not Ethiopia that existed for at least more than a century!
We don’t have to be rocket scientists to figure out what the country needs. However, you can see a rocket hit somewhere in the body of “ethnic” politics in Ethiopia and awaken some people at a moment’s notice.

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Re: Dismantle ethnic federalism

Post by Odie » 26 Nov 2024, 23:27

Naga Tuma wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 23:15
Odie wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 20:29
Have not we been crying for removal of the ethnic federalism for over 30 years? Personally I have.
Apparently the Tigre and Oromo ethnofascists love it.
They have been slaughtering people to keep that. The Tigre paid enough price from what they invented. Still want it maintained. The Oromos are slaughtering people, their own and others, like an animal to maintain it. The Oromos and Tigre will keep fighting for ever for nothing any way. They seem doomed group. We are very unlucky we are frozen in time and space with them.
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what the country needs. Remove ethnic politics and it’s hate crime, disband or update the constitution, aspire to be a democratic nation abiding by rules and law then if necessary negotiate on everything else, respect it and go to work.
Who can give us that chance?
Even small region Somaliland appears to abide by law and function democratically, not Ethiopia that existed for at least more than a century!
We don’t have to be rocket scientists to figure out what the country needs. However, you can see a rocket hit somewhere in the body of “ethnic” politics in Ethiopia and awaken some people at a moment’s notice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That is typical OPDO/PP excuse!
We all passed through same systems. No exception to Oromo or Tigre. Unfortunately throughout my age perhaps even before, the two are the ones crying and bloodshading most of the time with all kinds of liberation fronts. They will never stop that, I am afraid!
Unfortunately, moderate segment of our society does not get leadership chance. The killers for some reason usurp power, steal, kill and vanish but the country goes one step forward, two steps backward!

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Re: Dismantle ethnic federalism

Post by Agazi General » 26 Nov 2024, 23:29

LETS.DO IT BRAZER NOVEL AMHARU AKA UNION AKA ANDERTAN AKA ABDEAZIZ AKA TESFABISBISNEWS, AND MAKE.ONLY TIGRINYA Z OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. WOWWW

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Re: Dismantle ethnic federalism

Post by Naga Tuma » 26 Nov 2024, 23:35

ኣሎ ኣሎ Fed_Up ይሰማል?

እኔ የማዉቃት ኢትዮጵያ ሰዉ ቤት ለእንግዳ የሚልባት ነበረች።

ትላንትና ተበትናችኋል እኮ ያልካት ኢትዮጵያ የማን ነህ እንግዳ የሚሉ እንስሶች የሚኖሩባት ሆናለች ኣልክ።

ኣፄ ዘረያቆብ ከፋ ዉስጥ ቤተመንግስት እንደነበራቸዉ ኣንብበሃል?

ሀሳብህን ቀይረህ ወደ ኢትዮጵያ ተመልሰህ የተወረሰብህን ቦቴህን እያምዘገዘኩ ሄጄ ኣያዋለሁ ካልክ ያዉ የማን ነህ እንግዳ ኣልልም ያለ እጁን ኣወጣ። ሁለት ቀናት ሳይቆጠሩ ለጥያቄህ መልስ ኣገኘህ።

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Re: Dismantle ethnic federalism

Post by Naga Tuma » 26 Nov 2024, 23:42

Odie wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 23:27
Naga Tuma wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 23:15
Odie wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 20:29
Have not we been crying for removal of the ethnic federalism for over 30 years? Personally I have.
Apparently the Tigre and Oromo ethnofascists love it.
They have been slaughtering people to keep that. The Tigre paid enough price from what they invented. Still want it maintained. The Oromos are slaughtering people, their own and others, like an animal to maintain it. The Oromos and Tigre will keep fighting for ever for nothing any way. They seem doomed group. We are very unlucky we are frozen in time and space with them.
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what the country needs. Remove ethnic politics and it’s hate crime, disband or update the constitution, aspire to be a democratic nation abiding by rules and law then if necessary negotiate on everything else, respect it and go to work.
Who can give us that chance?
Even small region Somaliland appears to abide by law and function democratically, not Ethiopia that existed for at least more than a century!
We don’t have to be rocket scientists to figure out what the country needs. However, you can see a rocket hit somewhere in the body of “ethnic” politics in Ethiopia and awaken some people at a moment’s notice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That is typical OPDO/PP excuse!
We all passed through same systems. No exception to Oromo or Tigre. Unfortunately throughout my age perhaps even before, the two are the ones crying and bloodshading most of the time with all kinds of liberation fronts. They will never stop that, I am afraid!
Unfortunately, moderate segment of our society does not get leadership chance. The killers for some reason usurp power, steal, kill and vanish but the country goes one step forward, two steps backward!
Here you go again. Rushing to respond before understanding. A rocket and an excuse are polar opposites. You associating the rocket with the party in your mind should be mind boggling. Your lack of understanding of the comment above is that simple. ቅዝምዝሙን ሳታይ ፍየል ኣትሁን።

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Re: Dismantle ethnic federalism

Post by Odie » 27 Nov 2024, 00:19

Naga Tuma wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 23:42
Odie wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 23:27
Naga Tuma wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 23:15
Odie wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 20:29
Have not we been crying for removal of the ethnic federalism for over 30 years? Personally I have.
Apparently the Tigre and Oromo ethnofascists love it.
They have been slaughtering people to keep that. The Tigre paid enough price from what they invented. Still want it maintained. The Oromos are slaughtering people, their own and others, like an animal to maintain it. The Oromos and Tigre will keep fighting for ever for nothing any way. They seem doomed group. We are very unlucky we are frozen in time and space with them.
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what the country needs. Remove ethnic politics and it’s hate crime, disband or update the constitution, aspire to be a democratic nation abiding by rules and law then if necessary negotiate on everything else, respect it and go to work.
Who can give us that chance?
Even small region Somaliland appears to abide by law and function democratically, not Ethiopia that existed for at least more than a century!
We don’t have to be rocket scientists to figure out what the country needs. However, you can see a rocket hit somewhere in the body of “ethnic” politics in Ethiopia and awaken some people at a moment’s notice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That is typical OPDO/PP excuse!
We all passed through same systems. No exception to Oromo or Tigre. Unfortunately throughout my age perhaps even before, the two are the ones crying and bloodshading most of the time with all kinds of liberation fronts. They will never stop that, I am afraid!
Unfortunately, moderate segment of our society does not get leadership chance. The killers for some reason usurp power, steal, kill and vanish but the country goes one step forward, two steps backward!
Here you go again. Rushing to respond before understanding. A rocket and an excuse are polar opposites. You associating the rocket with the party in your mind should be mind boggling. Your lack of understanding of the comment above is that simple. ቅዝምዝሙን ሳታይ ፍየል ኣትሁን።
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I had the assumption you were an independent thinker.
ተሳስቻለሁ:: ዲዲቲን ባትስተካከልም ደረቅ የኦፒዲኦ ካድሬ ትመስላለህ! ችግሩ እንዲህ ነው የሚጀምረው:: በትንሽ ንትርክ ነፃ አውጪ መመስረት!
ነጋቲ!

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Re: Dismantle ethnic federalism

Post by Naga Tuma » 27 Nov 2024, 12:47

Odie wrote:
27 Nov 2024, 00:19
Naga Tuma wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 23:42
Odie wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 23:27
Naga Tuma wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 23:15
Odie wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 20:29
Have not we been crying for removal of the ethnic federalism for over 30 years? Personally I have.
Apparently the Tigre and Oromo ethnofascists love it.
They have been slaughtering people to keep that. The Tigre paid enough price from what they invented. Still want it maintained. The Oromos are slaughtering people, their own and others, like an animal to maintain it. The Oromos and Tigre will keep fighting for ever for nothing any way. They seem doomed group. We are very unlucky we are frozen in time and space with them.
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what the country needs. Remove ethnic politics and it’s hate crime, disband or update the constitution, aspire to be a democratic nation abiding by rules and law then if necessary negotiate on everything else, respect it and go to work.
Who can give us that chance?
Even small region Somaliland appears to abide by law and function democratically, not Ethiopia that existed for at least more than a century!
We don’t have to be rocket scientists to figure out what the country needs. However, you can see a rocket hit somewhere in the body of “ethnic” politics in Ethiopia and awaken some people at a moment’s notice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That is typical OPDO/PP excuse!
We all passed through same systems. No exception to Oromo or Tigre. Unfortunately throughout my age perhaps even before, the two are the ones crying and bloodshading most of the time with all kinds of liberation fronts. They will never stop that, I am afraid!
Unfortunately, moderate segment of our society does not get leadership chance. The killers for some reason usurp power, steal, kill and vanish but the country goes one step forward, two steps backward!
Here you go again. Rushing to respond before understanding. A rocket and an excuse are polar opposites. You associating the rocket with the party in your mind should be mind boggling. Your lack of understanding of the comment above is that simple. ቅዝምዝሙን ሳታይ ፍየል ኣትሁን።
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I had the assumption you were an independent thinker.
ተሳስቻለሁ:: ዲዲቲን ባትስተካከልም ደረቅ የኦፒዲኦ ካድሬ ትመስላለህ! ችግሩ እንዲህ ነው የሚጀምረው:: በትንሽ ንትርክ ነፃ አውጪ መመስረት!
ነጋቲ!
እስቲ መጀመርያ Fed_Upን ኢትዮጵያ የበለጠ ስትጠናከር የድሮ ጎንደሬዎች ነን፣ የድሮ ተምቤኖች ነን እያላችሁ ልክ ትገባላችሁ ያልኩትን ላላምጥ።

ይህ ርዕስ ሳይጀመር ስድስት ደቂቃዎች በፊት የለጠፍኩኝን ማንነብ ቀላል ነዉ።

ከሁለት ቀናት በፊት Fed_Up የለጠፈዉን እና የጠየቀዉን ጥያቄ ማንበብ ቀላል ነዉ።

እስከ ኣሁን ኣር ዩ ኣዉት ኦፍ ዩር ፍሪክንግ ማይንድ እያስባለኝ ነዉ።

አዲስ አበባ ሳይደርሱ ታቃዉሜ ርቄ የምኖርን እዚህ ዉስጥ ኣምጥተህ ስትዘባርቅ ኣር ዩ ኣዉት ኦፍ ዩር ፍሪክንግ ማይንድ? ዋት ፓርት ኦፍ እኩያህን ፈልግ ዱ ዩ ኖት አንደርስታንድ?

I suspect this will also be hard for you to understand. I only tried harder for it to sink in your thick skull.

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Re: Dismantle ethnic federalism

Post by Naga Tuma » 27 Nov 2024, 14:02

የOdie 30 ዓመታት በላይ ትግል በስድስት ደቂቃዎች ሲመነዘር “Dismantle ethnic federalism” ባይን ይወልዳል!

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