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[Horus]

Here is the facts

* It's true both abiy and muse used the MoU to boost their popularity. Initially they never expected that Many more enemies will show up. They expected only Eritrea , Djibouti and zoomalia.

* Abiy backed off , I don't blame him the guy is Dealing with multiple internal terrorists. He is not in good position to Fk with the big guys

* Somaliland is not scared of any of the players in the field. We can basically do what ever we want without any bad consequences. Its My land my rules.

* There is no doubt somaliland is aligned with Ethiopia. But it's actually zoomalia who is further pushing somaliland to the Ethiopian side. And we have nothing to loose here. Eventually Ethiopia and somaliland are going to win. Simply because Ethiopia has no choice. And zomalia won't accept our independence.

Those filth Egyptians and Turks can do a shiit to us. Somaliland always hated the Turks.

Jikaar,

I agree. Zack keeps repeating his dogmatic position of united Somalia. Ethiopia did not create Somaliland in order to divide Somalia. Somaliland created itself, period. Either Somalia will allow Somaliland to exist as independent country next to Somalia or it will become the same in spite of Mogadhisou.

As for Ethiopia, Abiy tried to make some kind of internal peace in Amara and Oromia before the MOU issue explodes on every body's face but the the rebels and government are not ready to compromise. In the mean time Egypt is using Hassan Sheik to expand into the Horn. Actually, is Abiy drastically cutting commercial activities between Turkey and Ethiopia. Right now it is almost impossible for private business people to go to Turkey etc.

While Ethiopia and Somaliland slowly build their multi-facet relations Somalia will have to resolve its multiple crises. My guess is if they ratify Somaliland's independence amicably Somalia fears that Puntland might follow. Theoretically all those regional states with sea coast are potentially independent countries if they choose so. So it is this domino effect that Hassan Sheik is fearing.

So, the Somalia crisis is only starting. We shall see. Hopefully, the matter will come before African Unity.

[Jikaar]

Man we didn't even care this recognition thing. As long as we can mind our business. We were aiming to follow the Taiwanese model, that's why we are mostly engaged with the western societies and their values, but these zoomalians are obsessed with us. Any time we take one step towards progress they protest. It became a normal routine.

We actually prefered to be neutral. But they forced us to to take a side, and we choose Ethiopia over them . We choose UAE over turkey or Qatar. We choose Taiwan over china. Etc. We ended up at opposing camps.

The reunification they are hoping will never happen. We don't know these peaple we just stayed with them for 2 decades only. We never shared history with them before 1960. The empires who controlled somalia never reached somaliland. But any thing that existed in somaliland reached Ethiopia. Adal , ifat , British etc . Somaliland is not a region of somalia. It's an independent nation with an an international borders approved by the AU charter.

Somaliland is not like any other place in Africa, our case is legitimate. Every country is denying our rights because most African countries including Ethiopia are scared of their own ethnic groups. They don't want us to inspire others.

[Zack]

Ethiopia will never formally recognise Somaliland. The nation faces complex internal issues with its various ethnic groups be it the galla, Amhara, or Tigray and is unwilling to jeopardise its territorial integrity, including the Somali Region. Ethiopia’s primary concern lies with Somalia, and it holds little regard for Somaliland beyond a tool to exert pressure on Somalia. In truth, You have no real other friends but Somalia. For example even if you give Ethiopia a free port they wont reecognise you they will try to give a share in Ethio TELECOM the one thing you want they cant give you , or wont give you . So better to stay with Somalia and stop this nonsense of being your own country.

Dr Zackovich

[Somaliman]

Horus, or may I say Horsesh'it,

Why are you disappointed only with Turkey? Were you expecting it to hand you a coastal land of Somalia in a handmade mosaic Ottoman plate?

What about the US? All other countries have stressed the need to respect Somalia's sovereignty and territorial integrity. While the US went further by stating in public that it did not recognise the fraudulent dead MoU, which you keep beating?

[Zack]

Horus lives in his own fake reality lol

Dr Zackovich

[kerenite]

Hi,

I was following arab medias news today. In their coverage, they mentioned Somaliland has elected a new president today. He belongs to the oppostion.

However, he said, he ain't against the MOU signed between aby and the loser president, but he wants to talk to the federal government at Mogadishu. The loser president was always opposing talking to the somali government.

Let's hope this new elected Somaliland president unites somalis.

[Horus]

Zack,
Eritreans are the creation of anti-Ethiopia Arabs, Egypt in particular. So, they believe the words of Arabs rather than the words of Somalilanders regarding the election and MOU.

Abdirahman was in Addis prior to the election and has stated his position on the MOU. His statement after his victory is exactly the same. He supports the Ethio-Somaliland strategic alliance including the MOU. The only difference between Bihi and him is on the issue of talking to Somalia. If Abdirahman convinces Hassan Sheik on an amicable separation of Somaliland, we all will say bravo! No one objects such an eventuality.

If Hassan Sheik persists with his one Hawiye controlled one Somalia, it is a foregone conclusion Somaliland will get her recognition from Ethiopia or another 1st mover and that will be the end of the drama.

[Horus]

[Somaliman]

Hi,

I was following arab medias news today. In their coverage, they mentioned Somaliland has elected a new president today. He belongs to the oppostion.

However, he said, he ain't against the MOU signed between aby and the loser president, but he wants to talk to the federal government at Mogadishu. The loser president was always opposing talking to the somali government.

Let's hope this new elected Somaliland president unites somalis.

Let's hope this new elected Somaliland president unites somalis.

Uniting Somalis goes way further than bringing the north of Somalia back into the fold, or uniting the north with the south. This can be done, as there are not hostilities, ill feeling, or grudges between north and south on people level, but this won't unite the Somali people across the country. To unite the Somali people, we need to adopt and embody a bottom-up approach and start building up and empowering unity on an individual level. For this to come into being and take shape, we need to dispose of our current political mindset and configurations.

[Somaliman]

Zack,
Eritreans are the creation of anti-Ethiopia Arabs, Egypt in particular. So, they believe the words of Arabs rather than the words of Somalilanders regarding the election and MOU.

Abdirahman was in Addis prior to the election and has stated his position on the MOU. His statement after his victory is exactly the same. He supports the Ethio-Somaliland strategic alliance including the MOU. The only difference between Bihi and him is on the issue of talking to Somalia. If Abdirahman convinces Hassan Sheik on an amicable separation of Somaliland, we all will say bravo! No one objects such an eventuality.

If Hassan Sheik persists with his one Hawiye controlled one Somalia, it is a foregone conclusion Somaliland will get her recognition from Ethiopia or another 1st mover and that will be the end of the drama.

If Abdirahman convinces Hassan Sheik on an amicable separation of Somaliland, we all will say bravo! No one objects such an eventuality.

You're an utter ignorant idiot.

For your information, recognising the breakaway region of Somalia as a country is not a property of a sitting president of Somalia, whether it's Hasan Sheikh or another fuc'ker. They've no legitimacy or power whatsoever to do so, even if they wanted to.

Obviously, you're so wrapped up in a deluded ignorant little bubble of fantasy, just like this guy who's bringing a bouquet of flowers to a loved girlfriend that only exists in his own deluded imaginations.

[Jikaar]

Ethiopia will never formally recognise Somaliland. The nation faces complex internal issues with its various ethnic groups be it the galla, Amhara, or Tigray and is unwilling to jeopardise its territorial integrity, including the Somali Region. Ethiopia’s primary concern lies with Somalia, and it holds little regard for Somaliland beyond a tool to exert pressure on Somalia. In truth, You have no real other friends but Somalia. For example even if you give Ethiopia a free port they wont reecognise you they will try to give a share in Ethio TELECOM the one thing you want they cant give you , or wont give you . So better to stay with Somalia and stop this nonsense of being your own country.

Dr Zackovich

One thing is for sure , either you will accept somaliland independence. Or Ethiopia Will meet my terms and conditions, and risk it all . I have no permanent friends you peice of a shiit. I am only after my own country interests. If you scratch my back I scratch yours. If you fk with me I kill you. We don't care if you are Somali , habesha Oromo or Chinese. We have have our own principles.

[Zack]

we will do neither and Ethiopia cant do anything so you will remain in limbo
Ask Horus why doesnt Ethiopia go ahead with the mou instead they choose to talk to Somalia in Turkey lol


Dr Zackovich

[Jikaar]

Somaliland will achieve 90% of it's Goals by hook or crook. I am sure , either you Somalis Will accept somaliland independence or Ethiopia Will. No choice here .

[Zack]

Ethiopia will never recognise Somaliland. Ask Horus why Prime Minister Abiy is hesitant to implement the MOU. The truth is, he cannot recognise Somaliland – it was merely lip service on their part. If this is unclear, ask him directly whether he supports the idea that Ethiopia should first recognise Somaliland. Let us see what he says. He knows full well that Ethiopia cannot recognise Somaliland.

Furthermore, Somalia considers Somaliland to be an integral part of its territory, and as such, it will never recognise your aspirations. Your hope lies with Ethiopia, but even they cannot provide the assistance you seek. In essence, you will remain in the same limbo you have experienced for the past 33 years. Yes, you may receive a pat on the back for holding elections, but that is where it ends. The West will never grant you what you truly desire – full recognition and independence from Somalia.

Allow me to offer you some advice: because you lot struggle on this path, the only way you will ever secure recognition is by conquering Mogadishu and Forcing the Somali president to sign off on a United Nations-supervised referendum on Somaliland’s independence – whether willingly or under pressure its all good with regards to international law . This is the exact same approach taken by the EPLF in 1991 in Addis Ababa, when, despite the TPLF’s generals had really no opposition to Eritreas aspirations of becoming an Independent state , some sources suggest there were subtle intimations and pressures exerted by the EPLF on the TPLF. Ultimately, this is the only path to recognition, not through Ethiopia indeed.




Dr Zackovich