Ethiopian News, Current Affairs and Opinion Forum
Za-Ilmaknun
Member
Posts: 4486
Joined: 15 Jun 2018, 17:40

BBC:- በጉራጌ ዞን “ከፋኖ ጋር በተያያዘ” ከ100 በላይ ሰዎች መታሰራቸው ተነገረ;

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 29 Oct 2024, 11:32

በማዕከላዊ ኢትዮጵያ ክልል ጉራጌ ዞን ከሰኔ 2016 ዓ.ም. ወዲህ ከ100 በላይ የአማራ ብሔር ተወላጆች “በሽብር” ተጠርጥረው ሲታሰሩ ስጋት ያደረባቸው ነዋሪዎች ደግሞ አካባቢውን ለቀው መሸሸታቸውን ለቢቢሲ ተናገሩ።

በዞኑ አበሽጌ ወረዳ ከሰኔ 2016 ዓ.ም. ጀምሮ ‘ፋኖ ናችሁ፤ የፋኖ ክንፍ ናችሁ፤ ፋኖን በገንዘብ ትደግፋላችሁ’ በሚል የፀጥታ ኃይሎች ድብደባ እና እንግልትን ጨምሮ “ማንነትን የለየ” እስር እየፈጸሙ መሆናቸውን በመግለጽ ስጋት ውስጥ መሆናቸውን አመልክተዋል።

የአካባቢው የሰላም እና ፀጥታ ቢሮ ኃላፊ በቁጥጥር ስር የሚገኙት ነዋሪዎች “በመሳሪያ ዝውውር እና እገታ” ወንጀሎች ተጠርጥረው የተያዙ ናቸው ሲሉ ለቢቢሲ ተናግረዋል።

አብሸጌ ወረዳው ካሉት 30 ቀበሌዎች እና ማዘጋጃዎች 16ቱ በአብዛኛው የአማራ ብሔር ወላጆች እንደሚኖሩባቸው የተናገሩት ነዋሪዎች፤ ካለፈው ዓመት መጨረሻ ጀምሮ ግን ከፋኖ ጋር በተያያዙ ክሶች ምክንያት “እየተሳደድን ነው” ይላሉ።

በተለይም ከዞኑ እና ከወረዳው መቀመጫ ወልቂጤ ከተማ በ42 ኪ.ሜ በምትርቀው ዳርጌ እና 30 ኪ.ሜ ገደማ በምትርቀው ዋልጋ የቀበሌ ከተሞች ላይ ‘የአማራ ብሄር ተወላጆች’ ማንነታቸው ተለይቶ እንደታሰሩ የታሳሪ ቤተሰቦች እና ነዋሪዎች ተናግረዋል።

“ከባለሀብት እስከ ቀን ሠራተኛ፤ ከፖለቲከኛ እስከ ወጣት፤ ከባጃጅ ሹፌር እስከ ሞተረኛ ድረስ” የእስሩ ሰለባዎች እንደሆኑ አንድ አካባቢውን ለቀው የወጡ ነዋሪ ተናግረዋል።

“እነሱ ፋኖ የሚሉት አማራ ሆኖ መሳሪያ ይዞ የሚንቀሳቀሰውን ሰው በሙሉ ነው” ሲሉ እስሩ ማንነት ተኮር ነው ሲሉ ሌላ ነዋሪ ተናግረዋል።

https://www.bbc.com/amharic/articles/cp8xnx2d0yzo

Dama
Member+
Posts: 6432
Joined: 22 Jun 2024, 21:05

Re: BBC:- በጉራጌ ዞን “ከፋኖ ጋር በተያያዘ” ከ100 በላይ ሰዎች መታሰራቸው ተነገረ;

Post by Dama » 29 Oct 2024, 11:49

Darge, Walga.
These are Amara names of places on Gurage lands. These places must have had Gurage names before the new settlers came in, some neftenya settler colonists of Menelick but most I believe are drought victims of Wello and Tigray.

Gurages, listening to the gov of the day, cooperated, accepted, accommodated and helped the new comers settle in their midst on Gurage ancestral land.
Why did the newcomers felt uncomfortable to leave Gurage names of places as is? It would be regarded a respect for the people and their traditions who accepted them. Erasing Gurage names of places is not act of a grateful payback?
Last edited by Dama on 29 Oct 2024, 12:43, edited 1 time in total.

Odie
Member+
Posts: 6195
Joined: 24 Jun 2024, 23:07

Re: BBC:- በጉራጌ ዞን “ከፋኖ ጋር በተያያዘ” ከ100 በላይ ሰዎች መታሰራቸው ተነገረ;

Post by Odie » 29 Oct 2024, 12:24

Dama,
When are you going to stop insulting yourself?

First these people are in their own country. I thought you pride in yourself Gurage is a very welcoming peaceful society, but you are behaving like the Galla clan.

There is no difference between Amhara and Gurage. Do you know there is even little Oromia in Minnesota, little Ethiopia in many places in the west? No body cares what they call the area. In USA, if you have money, you could buy a road name, pay for it and name it by your name or clan name.

Is it not stupid when you ask a fellow Ethiopians what they named their neighborhood because they live among Gurage? We should be happy they live with us, among us.

The question should have been why are they being rounded up among the Gurage, why are not protected by Gurage? I used to hear, wolkite university was like mini-Ethiopia where all ethnics are at peace with no discrimination or abduction. Why is not Gurage a sanctuary to any one being attacked by Abiy regime?

Why are you not happy if these Ethiopians you discriminated as Amhara could create a connection with Fano to get some self defense equipment to the Gurage, if they can?

I know you have some good knowledge of certain regions of Gurage and the history, but you really are a bigot in many things. First thing Gurage needs friends not foes to stand up to self-defense and it does not have many friends due to its locations.

Please stop attacking Amhara and Christians. Keep your bigoted idea to yourself and this does not serve the broader interest of Gurage.

Misraq
Senior Member
Posts: 16670
Joined: 27 Sep 2009, 19:43
Location: Zemunda

Re: BBC:- በጉራጌ ዞን “ከፋኖ ጋር በተያያዘ” ከ100 በላይ ሰዎች መታሰራቸው ተነገረ;

Post by Misraq » 29 Oct 2024, 16:11

Good to see a civilized Gurage (Odie) correcting the uncivilized cadre Gurage (Dama). We don't see this on other ethnicities. Brother Odie showed character here while Dama is victim of the TPLF and OLF/OPDO ideology

Dama
Member+
Posts: 6432
Joined: 22 Jun 2024, 21:05

Re: BBC:- በጉራጌ ዞን “ከፋኖ ጋር በተያያዘ” ከ100 በላይ ሰዎች መታሰራቸው ተነገረ;

Post by Dama » 29 Oct 2024, 17:08

Misraq wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 16:11
Good to see a civilized Gurage (Odie) correcting the uncivilized cadre Gurage (Dama). We don't see this on other ethnicities. Brother Odie showed character here while Dama is victim of the TPLF and OLF/OPDO ideology
Mitriaq

Gurage, in history, has had many traitors, sellouts, bandas. Together with varirous enemies of Gurage of the times, they killed, tortured, looted and raped Gurages for money and power. They either acted individually or as groups.
For example, the defeat of Gurage by Menelick. Agents of Mengistu giving out names and addresses of suspected EPRP members and supporters.

The Gurage bandas accepted bribes to convert to Christianity and lay down their weapons. After which, when required by Ras Gobena Dache, they fought on his side against the Gurage resistance.

Some very influencial leaders, like Tufa Bune of Chebo, worked as a sleazy under cover informant unbeknown by Gurage leaders, giving Menelick the locations of Gurage bases, times the fighters go to sleep or days they have celeberations to attack them unprepared.

This Gurage identity hater because he thinks Ethiopianist is like that, that is to not subscribe to any identity other than Amara. He argued against the writing and development the Gurage language. That was the day I blocked his account so that I don't read his banda posts regarding Gurage and he does not read my posts. No idea how he read my post. He is not supposed to.

He hates Gurage identity development and protection. He hates debates justice, especially for victims of religious violence.

He doesn't read a page on Gurage. In many ways he is a donkey about Gurage. He is practically ignorant on Gurage history and politics. He did not know what to read and where to get them. He asked me if I could provide sources. I posted links for him. He is also an ungrateful, annoying and disrespectful human animal. An ungrateful donkey.

Tell this opportunistic, religiously bigotted traitor, an ignorant Amara mule, that Gurage tradition is not for sale. Gurage is not Minnosota. Gurage is Ethiopia. A nation with distinct language, culture and history.

Everyone has its own place and traditions. Amara, Oromo or Tigray cannot come to Gurage and force erase Gurage traditional names and replace them with their. This is remaining true. This is keeping tradition.

Tell him to bring the Bible to the Gurage peasants in their mother tongue. It's traitors and opportunists like him who still maintain Bible education in Amharic, telling the poor peasants that Christ spoke Amharic.

Odie
Member+
Posts: 6195
Joined: 24 Jun 2024, 23:07

Re: BBC:- በጉራጌ ዞን “ከፋኖ ጋር በተያያዘ” ከ100 በላይ ሰዎች መታሰራቸው ተነገረ;

Post by Odie » 29 Oct 2024, 18:08

Misraq,
A lot of crazy people on the internet in the name of freedom of speech. Some should have gone to prison or gone for mental health care, but they are roaming.

Ethiopia is the hand product of Amhara people period. If there were no Amhara, there would have been no Ethiopia, even for the Oromos to abuse it. They should have been slave in the Caribbean plantation: lol: :lol:

It is the Amhara the retards call Neftegna who made barbarians people. Neftegnas fought with animals, people and everything to get this country.

They may not have been perfect, but they did beyond their limit for their time compared to the current shisha generation and tablaists. Yes, Ethiopians may have contributed, fought and died together but Amhara contributed and built the scaffolding or frame, and the lion's share of this country. Amhara should demand respect for that, and it deserves. Amhara should be respected not imprisoned, not killed.

We all have been thought by Amhara scholars here and there to make us what we are today.

Ethiopia to be blessed, to be peaceful etc.. instead of the corridor, MoU Amhara needs to be respected first. This should include everywhere in the country and even in the neighborhood.

I am saying this not because I am Amharanized, or I am in love with Amhara, but it is fact. Amhara did not kill others like animals the way it is happening in the country or what happened during TPLF.

Amhara should rise not bend his head because with Amhara, everybody rises.

I just spoke, what I should, nothing special. Fact.

Oromo should have treated the country and Amhara [who handed them power] in RESPECT not with drones.

God protect and bless Amhara
I share sentiment with Tadios Tantu.

Dama
Member+
Posts: 6432
Joined: 22 Jun 2024, 21:05

Re: BBC:- በጉራጌ ዞን “ከፋኖ ጋር በተያያዘ” ከ100 በላይ ሰዎች መታሰራቸው ተነገረ;

Post by Dama » 29 Oct 2024, 19:29

yetikim negade. triraf leqami. A sellout, banda. Cheap Amara dck lcker. Gurage has had many of them but survived them.
Sue them, practitioners of free media if u have the facts of bigotry. If not, may be you're mental. Or just too hungry for handouts from the rich Amara pocket.

Odie
Member+
Posts: 6195
Joined: 24 Jun 2024, 23:07

Re: BBC:- በጉራጌ ዞን “ከፋኖ ጋር በተያያዘ” ከ100 በላይ ሰዎች መታሰራቸው ተነገረ;

Post by Odie » 29 Oct 2024, 20:09

Dama wrote:
29 Oct 2024, 19:29
yetikim negade. triraf leqami. A sellout, banda. Cheap Amara dck lcker. Gurage has had many of them but survived them.
Sue them, practitioners of free media if u have the facts of bigotry. If not, may be you're mental. Or just too hungry for handouts from the rich Amara pocket.
>>>>>>>>
I ain’t ጥቅም ፈላጊ
There is nothing I need. I Hope good for my country and the people. Difficult for me to cry at tribe level.
I am consciously not a “can buy or manupilate him” guy. I flow wherever there is truth and justice. ህሊና::
I am not going to respond specifically!
Grow up
Gurage is bigger than your prejudice

Za-Ilmaknun
Member
Posts: 4486
Joined: 15 Jun 2018, 17:40

Re: BBC:- በጉራጌ ዞን “ከፋኖ ጋር በተያያዘ” ከ100 በላይ ሰዎች መታሰራቸው ተነገረ;

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 31 Oct 2024, 17:53

አሳዛኝ ዜና!

በምስራቅ ጉራጌ ዞን ሶዶ ወረዳ በሸኔ ታጣቂዎች በደረሰ ጥቃት እስከ 40 ሰዎች መገደላቸው ተሰማ።

ጥቃቱ የደረሰው በዞኑ የሶዶ ወረዳ ከኦሮሚያ ክልል ምስራቅ ሸዋ ዞን ዱግዳ ወረዳ ጋር በሚዋሰንበት አካባቢ ቢርቢርሳና ጋሌ ቀበሌ ልዩ ስሙ ''ኩሬ'' እንዲሁም ''ቢጢሲ'' ተብለው እስከሚጠሩ ስፍራዎች ነው።

በሸኔ ታጣቂዎች በደረሰው ጥቃት እስከ 40 ሰዎች መገደላቸውንና ከፍተኛ ጉዳት የደረሰባቸው የህብረተሰብ ክፍሎች መኖራቸውን ዛሬ ከስፍራው የደረሱን ተደጋጋሚ መረጃዎች አመላክተዋል።

ጥቃቱ ትላንት ጥቅምት 20 ቀን 2017 ዓ.ም ከምሽቱ 2:00 ገደማ ጀምሮ እስከ እኩለ ለሊት መራዘሙን የጠቆሙት የአካባቢው ነዋሪዎችና የሟቾች ቤተሰቦች በጥቃቱ ሕጻናትን ጨምሮ እናቶችና አረጋውያን መገደላቸውንም ተናግረዋል።

የተከፈተባቸውን ጥቃት መመከት ያልቻሉ አርሶ-አደሮች ቤታቸው ውስጥ እያሉ በእሳት እንዲቃጠሉ በማድረግ ከነከብቶቻቸው እንዲሞቱ መደረጉንም ነዋሪዎች ገልፀዋል።

በአካባቢው የመንግሥት መዋቅሮች በኩል እስካሁን ስለጉዳዩ ግልፅ መረጃም ሆነ ድርጊቱን የሚያወግዝ መግለጫ አልተሰጠም።

https://t.me/ethio251media


Odie
Member+
Posts: 6195
Joined: 24 Jun 2024, 23:07

Re: BBC:- በጉራጌ ዞን “ከፋኖ ጋር በተያያዘ” ከ100 በላይ ሰዎች መታሰራቸው ተነገረ;

Post by Odie » 31 Oct 2024, 19:40

AbyssiniaLady wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 19:11
Hopeless and helpless Listros, well done Galla terrorists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
VAMPIRE B1TCH :lol: :lol: :lol:
Are you happy now?

Evil, born evil :lol:

No life, you don't deserve it any way :lol:

Za-Ilmaknun
Member
Posts: 4486
Joined: 15 Jun 2018, 17:40

Re: BBC:- በጉራጌ ዞን “ከፋኖ ጋር በተያያዘ” ከ100 በላይ ሰዎች መታሰራቸው ተነገረ;

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 01 Nov 2024, 10:53

"ሸኔ" እየተባለ የሚጠራው ቡድን በሶዶ ጉራጌ ( ከስታኔ) ማህበረሰብ ላይ የፈጸመውን እጅግ ጭካኔ የተሞላበት ብሄር ተኮር ጭፍጨፋ በእጅጉ አወግዛለሁ። ሸኔ ማን ነው? የሚለውን ጥያቄ ለጊዜው ትቼ፣ ይህ ሁሉ እልቂት ሲፈጸም፣ በዝምታ ያዩ ወይም ያበረታቱ አካላት ሁሉ አንድ ቀን የእጃቸውን ያገኛሉ። የአብይ አህመድ መንግስት በስልጣን ላይ በቆየ ቁጥር፣ ሞት የእያንዳንዱን ሰው ቤት በር ማንኳኳቱ አይቀርም።

ለሞቱት የክስታኔ/ጉራጌ ማህበረሰብ አባላት ፈጣሪ የሰላም እረፍትን፣ ለዘመዶቻቸው ደግሞ መጽናናትን ይስጣቸው።

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Hs9KF3 ... tid=WC7FNe

Za-Ilmaknun
Member
Posts: 4486
Joined: 15 Jun 2018, 17:40

Re: BBC:- በጉራጌ ዞን “ከፋኖ ጋር በተያያዘ” ከ100 በላይ ሰዎች መታሰራቸው ተነገረ;

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 01 Nov 2024, 14:34

በሸዋ ጠቅላይ ግዛት ደራ አካባቢ በኦነግ ሸኔ ታግተው የነበሩት የመስጅድ ኢማም ከ12 ቤተሰቦቻቸው ጋር መገደላቸው ተሰማ‼️

በደራ ወረዳ ገንዳ አረቦ ተብሎ በሚጣራው አካባቢ ከሀጂ አህመድ መስጅድ በታጣቂዎች ታግተው የነበሩት የሀጂ አህመድ መስጅድ ኢማም ሼይኽ ሙሀመድ መኪን ሸይኽ ሙሀመድ አሪፍ አብረዋቸው ታግተው ከነበሩት 12 ቤተሰቦቻቸው ጋር በዛሬው ዕለት መገደላቸው ተሰምቷል።

ሼይኽ ሙሀመድ ከሳምንታት በፊት የሱብኺ ሶላት አሰግደው በሚመለሱበት ወቅት ነበር ቤተሰቦቻቸውን ጨምሮ ከ30 በላይ የሚሆኑ የአካባቢው ሰዎች ታግተው በሸኔ ሀይሎች መወሰዳቸው የተገለፀው። ከቀናት በኋላ በተደረገ የገንዘብ ድርድር የኢማሙን እናት እና ባለቤት ጨምሮ ጥቂት ሰዎች መለቀቃቸው የተገለፀ ሲሆን ኢማሙን ጨምሮ 12 ቤተሰቦቻቸው  በዛሬው እለት መገደላቸው ተሰምቷል።

https://t.me/FanoPress16

Post Reply