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UNITED KINGDOM'S HOUSE OF LORDS DEBATE ON SOMALILAND'S RECOGNITION || AFRICA FOCUS

Post by Horus » 13 Oct 2024, 23:30

SOON ETHIOPIA WILL CLEAR THE PATH!

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Re: UNITED KINGDOM'S HOUSE OF LORDS DEBATE ON SOMALILAND'S RECOGNITION || AFRICA FOCUS

Post by Somaliman » 14 Oct 2024, 08:01

For your information, there are debates taking place in the House of Lords all the time. Members of the House of Lords are not paid a salary but a daily allowance of £332 per sitting. Therefore, it's in their own interest to attend to be able to keep paying their mortgage and bills, as most of them are over70 and may not have anything else to do.

In addition, these debates have been taking place both in this house and the House of Commons for the past 3 decades or so periodically. Therefore, there's nothing new.

There are 800 members in this house, yet less than 50 members are attending!

One of the major issues in recognising this mindless region is how to separate between the two people, as they're from one ethnic and many people from the north are already living in the south and we do not allow them to keep their region for themselves and also share the rest of the country with the rest of people.



Horsesh'it,

Obviously you spend all your time on Googling and YouTubing Somaliland!

What a fuc'king loser!

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Post by Somaliman » 14 Oct 2024, 08:21

Horsesh'it,

You've come across the caption of the video and I don't think you've listened to the debate, as the answers of the UK government are loud and clear.

However, one of the guys who asks a question, doesn't really care about Somaliland but countering the Chinese, which he says "are pouring in the corner".

Moreover, this debate is about 20 years old, as it took place when Tony Blair was the prime minister in the UK. The Kenyan Youtuber is just using it to get views, like your Paki friend.

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Re: UNITED KINGDOM'S HOUSE OF LORDS DEBATE ON SOMALILAND'S RECOGNITION || AFRICA FOCUS

Post by Abere » 14 Oct 2024, 09:52


Eriwoman ( Al-Shabia),

Which one are your trying to kill? The message or the messenger? :lol: It is not Horus that made the Somaliland independence agenda in the UK House of Lords.

It is loud and clear, recognizing Somaliland as a sovereign nation is either a Now or Later issue for the United Kingdom. This discussion obviously a recognition in intent and a live agenda on the table.

There is however, a funny one when they mentioned how awful Eritrea and South Sudan are. They gave an Excellent Grade for Somaliland for being a model state compared to those other colonized tiny states. The bottom-line: worry about your tiny failed state, modern day text book example.

Listening how the UK felt moral guilty of not recognizing Somaliland over decades of good track record is 100% sure sign of they will recognize Somaliland. Someone must be stupid to think modernized Somaliland will be trashed into Al Shabab muddy Italy-Somalia.



Somaliman wrote:
14 Oct 2024, 08:21
Horsesh'it,

You've come across the caption of the video and I don't think you've listened to the debate, as the answers of the UK government are loud and clear.

However, one of the guys who asks a question, doesn't really care about Somaliland but countering the Chinese, which he says "are pouring in the corner".

Moreover, this debate is about 20 years old, as it took place when Tony Blair was the prime minister in the UK. The Kenyan Youtuber is just using it to get views, like your Paki friend.

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Re: UNITED KINGDOM'S HOUSE OF LORDS DEBATE ON SOMALILAND'S RECOGNITION || AFRICA FOCUS

Post by Jikaar » 14 Oct 2024, 12:37

Somaliman wrote:
14 Oct 2024, 08:01


One of the major issues in recognising this mindless region is how to separate between the two people, as they're from one ethnic and many people from the north are already living in the south and we do not allow them to keep their region for themselves and also share the rest of the country with the rest of people.



Horsesh'it,

Obviously you spend all your time on Googling and YouTubing Somaliland!

What a fuc'king loser!
Many peaple ? There are no somalilanders living in Somalia. If you are not counting your wives. The only somalilanders living in Somalia are the alshabaab leaders , and some fake representatives in your parliament who is not elected by any one. Whether somaliland is recignised or not it's a reality on the ground.

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Re: UNITED KINGDOM'S HOUSE OF LORDS DEBATE ON SOMALILAND'S RECOGNITION || AFRICA FOCUS

Post by Zack » 14 Oct 2024, 12:40

Britain will not go against Somalia and it will not divide Somalia , Britain will never recognise Somaliland independence

Dr Zackovich

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Re: UNITED KINGDOM'S HOUSE OF LORDS DEBATE ON SOMALILAND'S RECOGNITION || AFRICA FOCUS

Post by Jikaar » 14 Oct 2024, 13:04

Somaliland is very competent without the recognition. It has the best reputation in the horn from the international point of view. And it's a major player in this geopolitical cold war. We have nothing to loose here. In fact we prefer a real war to breakout now. Diplomacy is not our game.

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Re: UNITED KINGDOM'S HOUSE OF LORDS DEBATE ON SOMALILAND'S RECOGNITION || AFRICA FOCUS

Post by Somaliman » 14 Oct 2024, 13:38

Zack wrote:
14 Oct 2024, 12:40
Britain will not go against Somalia and it will not divide Somalia , Britain will never recognise Somaliland independence

Dr Zackovich


True.

The UK won't grant any recognition to this breakaway region run by mindless power hungry fuc'kers. And any country that tries to recognise it, including the US, would need to get the endorsement and approval of the UK.

Although such a minuscule debate takes place periodically in the UK, this one is about 20 years old and many of these members have long retired.

The little sympathy that the West used to have to their daydream has been shuttered since the mindless administration of Somaliland waged an unnecessary war on one of its subregions, which has backfired on them, as it has led to the subregion to secede from Somaliland for good.

One of the major reasons why the UK and the West in general are not interested in granting a recognition to this region is that they've realised that this region has been independent, practically speaking, for over 33 years, yet all they've done is crying for a fuc'king recognition and nothing else, and the West knows that such a recognition would only be used to beg around the world as a country and that the West doesn't want any more beggar knocking on their doors. Somaliland is the only entity in the entire world asking for a recognition, because they're independent yet they're such a lame duck.

Do you see Taiwan that keeps crying for a recognition!

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Post by Jikaar » 14 Oct 2024, 14:43

Let's pull the trigger. To see who survives. Even through we seem very peaceful. We are actually very active members of the violent groups. The recognition thing is not that important for us. We exist because we can and no body can eliminate us. Not the somalis or the Ethiopianns. Not even the United nations.

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Re: UNITED KINGDOM'S HOUSE OF LORDS DEBATE ON SOMALILAND'S RECOGNITION || AFRICA FOCUS

Post by Zack » 16 Oct 2024, 18:28

Recognition will remain elusive as long as Somalia withholds its consent. No nation beyond Somalia's borders will endorse Somaliland’s bid for independence not even the UAE, despite their investment there,not even poverty ridden Ethiopia, is acutely aware of its internal strife the Ogaden, Galla, and Tigray regions harbour their own aspirations for independence, which is precisely why Ethiopia hesitates.

Somaliland's proponents flood social media, particularly Twitter, with references to the 2005 fact-finding mission, but to no avail. The African Union disregarded their efforts, and the initiative failed to gain traction. Even Prime Minister Abiy’s Memorandum of Understanding nearly bridged the gap, yet it, too, backfired. Now, with Egypt entering the geopolitical fray, Abiy has not only lost influence over Somalia to Cairo, but he is also on the verge of losing control over the Amhara region.

Britain, for its part, will never entertain the idea of Somalia’s disintegration, for it serves neither their interests nor their long-term objectives in the region. They have no desire to foster yet another dependent state in Africa. Managing Somalia as a unified entity enables them to send aid and support directly to Mogadishu, which in turn can distribute funds to other regions, including Puntland, Galmudug, and Somaliland. The West is not naïve and dumb they cannot afford to grant recognition to what is, in essence, a single clan.


Dr Zackovich

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