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አለም ብረን ነየየ!

Post by Horus » 20 Sep 2024, 15:48

አለም ብርሃን ነይነየ!! መስቀል ብርሃን ነው !!!

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Post by Odie » 20 Sep 2024, 16:06

Horus wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 15:48
አለም ብርሃን ነይነየ!! መስቀል ብርሃን ነው !!!
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Horus, I am outside of Ethiopia. I have difficulty remembering Ethiopian calendar. I am not quite a holiday guy. Can you remind me when gurage meskal would be at least I will take the risk of eating gurage kitfo for one day? :lol: :lol:
And post something related to meskal.
I heard Abiy Ahmed started playing Oromos to travel and go to Ethiopia to worship Erecha-a pagan holiday which christian’s never should participate in. Of course people have the right to do their wish as far as it does not encroach on others right; it is a choice at own risk ( Personally, bs of my christian religion I don’t recommend participation in any pagan practice of any ethnic). Power hungry politicians will promote any evil to play people and stay in power.

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Re: አለም ብረን ነየየ!

Post by Horus » 20 Sep 2024, 16:28

Odie,

ጉራጌ 3 የመስቀል ቀናት አሉን!

የሴቶች መስቀል (የጎመን ክትፎ ቀን) Sept. 25th
የልጆች መስቀል (የዴንጋ መስቀል ወይም ደንጌሳት) Sept. 26th (this is the only day that each child is served kifto etc with his/her own ጣባ ፤ it is truly a special day for kids. It is exactly like Christmas morning in the west!!)
ትልቁ መስቀል (የእርድ ቀን! ደመራ በተቃጠለ ማግስት ሰንጋ የሚታረድበት ትልቁ የክትፎ ቀን) Sept. 27th

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Re: አለም ብረን ነየየ!

Post by Odie » 20 Sep 2024, 19:18

Horus wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 16:28
Odie,

ጉራጌ 3 የመስቀል ቀናት አሉን!

የሴቶች መስቀል (የጎመን ክትፎ ቀን) Sept. 25th
የልጆች መስቀል (የዴንጋ መስቀል ወይም ደንጌሳት) Sept. 26th (this is the only day that each child is served kifto etc with his/her own ጣባ ፤ it is truly a special day for kids. It is exactly like Christmas morning in the west!!)
ትልቁ መስቀል (የእርድ ቀን! ደመራ በተቃጠለ ማግስት ሰንጋ የሚታረድበት ትልቁ የክትፎ ቀን) Sept. 27th
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Thanks for the explanation. When I was a child there, I remember mostly the women's Meskel and the main one. The women meskal has gomen Kitfo and we used to anticipate it. The big one is obvious, especially the DEMERA (we used to call it-MUKIR). I will take Sept 27 to remember the date and eat (in traditional sense it is not eating it should be drinking kitfo :lol: ) one day kitfo.

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Post by Dama » 20 Sep 2024, 21:14

Horus Brotherhood of Gurage Christains are American Christian Rightwingers for the Church and State
America is Christian= Any Christian is Gurage

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Re: አለም ብረን ነየየ!

Post by Horus » 20 Sep 2024, 22:41

Zemo (brother) Odie,
I told you that you and I spoke the same language in some distant past. Demera in Kistane Guragegna is called Mijir (or Meger) ምጅር! You call it Mukir! It is exactly the same! amazing. I call Gurages - The Mesqel people. The Meskan Gurage - literally means mesqel Gurage! Some of us call it Mesqel, Mesqer, & Mesqen is also accurate. I wonder if Mukir has a different name in other Sebat Bet languages? By the way, our word for 'brother' is 'Zemi' ዘሚ and zemo is የዘሚ ቁልምጫ ነው።

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Re: አለም ብረን ነየየ!

Post by Odie » 20 Sep 2024, 23:06

Horus wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 22:41
Zemo (brother) Odie,
I told you that you and I spoke the same language in some distant past. Demera in Kistane Guragegna is called Mijir (or Meger) ምጅር! You call it Mukir! It is exactly the same! amazing. I call Gurages - The Mesqel people. The Meskan Gurage - literally means mesqel Gurage! Some of us call it Mesqel, Mesqer, & Mesqen is also accurate. I wonder if Mukir has a different name in other Sebat Bet languages? By the way, our word for 'brother' is 'Zemi' ዘሚ and zemo is የዘሚ ቁልምጫ ነው።
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Really Interesting!
mukir and ምጅር close
Again: Zemo= we say it ኣስሞ(Esemo)
Meskel= we say መስቀር

By the way kistane ጉራጊኛ ዘፈኖች are ጉራጌ prototype songs. The songs start some where in gurage region, typically kistane and flow all over gurage.
Examples:
ሌሌ ቢያሮማ ባጋሮ ከተማ-ክላሲክ
አለም ብሬ ነይ ነያ
የወራይ ስመሌ(very poplar in countryside)
ላሌ የወላልያ (very easy common play in country side)
Today too many varieties

Thanks

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Post by Dama » 21 Sep 2024, 00:46

Horus wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 22:41
Zemo (brother) Odie,
I told you that you and I spoke the same language in some distant past. Demera in Kistane Guragegna is called Mijir (or Meger) ምጅር! You call it Mukir! It is exactly the same! amazing. I call Gurages - The Mesqel people. The Meskan Gurage - literally means mesqel Gurage! Some of us call it Mesqel, Mesqer, & Mesqen is also accurate. I wonder if Mukir has a different name in other Sebat Bet languages? By the way, our word for 'brother' is 'Zemi' ዘሚ and zemo is የዘሚ ቁልምጫ ነው።
Christian donkey villainous brothers do in fact speak Gurage
https://youtube.com/shorts/i1PZQ4g7zjk? ... BBu92NgY_V

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Re: አለም ብረን ነየየ!

Post by Horus » 21 Sep 2024, 01:00

Odie wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 23:06
Horus wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 22:41
Zemo (brother) Odie,
I told you that you and I spoke the same language in some distant past. Demera in Kistane Guragegna is called Mijir (or Meger) ምጅር! You call it Mukir! It is exactly the same! amazing. I call Gurages - The Mesqel people. The Meskan Gurage - literally means mesqel Gurage! Some of us call it Mesqel, Mesqer, & Mesqen is also accurate. I wonder if Mukir has a different name in other Sebat Bet languages? By the way, our word for 'brother' is 'Zemi' ዘሚ and zemo is የዘሚ ቁልምጫ ነው።
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Really Interesting!
mukir and ምጅር close
Again: Zemo= we say it ኣስሞ(Esemo)
Meskel= we say መስቀር

By the way kistane ጉራጊኛ ዘፈኖች are ጉራጌ prototype songs. The songs start some where in gurage region, typically kistane and flow all over gurage.
Examples:
ሌሌ ቢያሮማ ባጋሮ ከተማ-ክላሲክ
አለም ብሬ ነይ ነያ
የወራይ ስመሌ(very poplar in countryside)
ላሌ የወላልያ (very easy common play in country side)
Today too many varieties

Thanks
ይገርማ! I hope I will have the opportunity to visit your region immerse myself in this sister language! Yes, Zemo & Esemo are same words. Well, this is why Gurage is one people. Now, with knowledge and literacy all of our communities will build a unified culture. The newly formed association of Gurage artists are producing multi-dialect songs and doing joint concerts. Very encouraging developments. By the way right now, compared to its population size, no other ethnic group has as many musicians as Gurage ethnic group. I have stopped counting!


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Re: አለም ብረን ነየየ!

Post by Horus » 21 Sep 2024, 01:15

ኦዴ፣
ይህን አስደናቂ ድምጽ ስማው! እኔ ኦርቶዶክስ ነኝ ግን ይህን ዘማሪ ደጋግሜ ነው የምሰማው!


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Post by Dama » 21 Sep 2024, 01:16

Traitors playing a game of deceit for $100,000

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Post by Horus » 21 Sep 2024, 02:11

ነፍሱን ይማረውና! የማይረሳው ተወዳጁ ዋቢ አብዱርህማን !!

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Re: አለም ብረን ነየየ!

Post by Naga Tuma » 21 Sep 2024, 02:55

Odie wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 16:06
Horus wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 15:48
አለም ብርሃን ነይነየ!! መስቀል ብርሃን ነው !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Horus, I am outside of Ethiopia. I have difficulty remembering Ethiopian calendar. I am not quite a holiday guy. Can you remind me when gurage meskal would be at least I will take the risk of eating gurage kitfo for one day? :lol: :lol:
And post something related to meskal.
I heard Abiy Ahmed started playing Oromos to travel and go to Ethiopia to worship Erecha-a pagan holiday which christian’s never should participate in. Of course people have the right to do their wish as far as it does not encroach on others right; it is a choice at own risk ( Personally, bs of my christian religion I don’t recommend participation in any pagan practice of any ethnic). Power hungry politicians will promote any evil to play people and stay in power.
ሆረስ፥

እንደገና አይ ሆረስ ኣስባልከኝ። ሌላዉን ግዜ ሳገኝ እመለስበታለሁ።

የኢትዮጵያ ፖለትካ ኩሽና ዉስጥ ሙቀቱን ችለህ ሞቅ ሞቅ የማድረግ ችሎታ ኣለህ።

ቢሆንም መነሻህን ካላወቅ መድረሻህን ኣታዉቅም። ኢትዮጵያን እወቅ።

አመርቲ ተብሎ መስቀልም ተባለ።

እሬሰ ተብሎ ደብረም ተባለ።

ገዳ ተብሎ ገዳምም ተባለ።

እሬቸ ተብሎ ታቦት ወንዝ ሄዶ ማደርም ተለመደ። ታቦት እሬቻ ይበል፣ ሰዉ እሬቻ ኣይበል ትላለህ፣ እራስህን።

ስለሁለቱም እሬቻዎች ኣብረን እንወያይ ማለት ኣይገድም።

ኢትዮጵያ እያለሁ ነበር ኣንድ ቀን በኣጋጣሚ እዚህ አሜሪካ ይኖሩ የነበሩ ከተዋህዶ አባቶች ኣንዳቸዉ ቪኦኤ ላይ ተጠይቀዉ ታቦት ወንዝ ሄዶ ማደር መሠረቱ እሬቻ ነዉ ሲሉ የሰማሁኝ።

ያልተማሩ የተባሉት መሠረታችሁን ወይም መሠረታችንን እንተዉ ኣላሉም። ይሀዉ አስርቱን ትዕዛዛት ተሸክመን መጥተን ነዉ ኣብረን ወንዝ የምንጠመቀዉ ነዉ ያሉት።

ኣድጎ የኡመ ቶክቸ ወይም ሞኖቴይዝም አባት የሆነዉ ካህን እንኳን ሙጫ ወይም ሙጬ ሆኖ የተገኘዉ ከወንዝ ነበር።

ጥንት ግዜ ከወንዝ የተገኘዉ ሙጫ ወይም ሙጬ ኣድጎ ያስቀረፀዉ አስርቱ ትዕዛዛት በዚህ ዘመን ወንዝ ሄዶ ያድራል። ይህ ከኢትዮጵያ ዉጪ ሌላ ሃገር መኖሩን ኣላዉቅም።

እነዚህ ግልጽ የሆኑ የታሪክ ቅርሶች የኢትዮጵያን መሠረት ኣመላካቾች ናቸዉ። መነሻ ኣመላካቾች ናቸዉ።

ስለዚህ ሁሉ ጥምቀት ቦታ ሆነ እሬቻ ቦታ በመወያየት ማደግ ሲቻል መሠረትን መኮነን ምን ማለት ነዉ? የማህበረሰብን መሠረት መንቀፍ እራስን ኣለማወቅ ነዉ።

ዉይይት ሲኖር ለምሳሌ የእሬቻ አስርቱ ትዕዛዛት ምንድናቸዉ ብሎ መወያያት ይቻላል። ማን ኣዘጋቸዉ፣ መቼ ተዘጋጁ ብሎ መጠየቅ እና መወያያት ይቻላል። የሙጫ ወይም ሙጬ ትዕዛዛት ምን ያንሳቸዋል ብሎ መጠየቅ እና መወያየት ይቻላል።

ድሮ በተፈጥሮ ዉሃ ወደ ታች እንጂ ወደላይ ኣይፈስም ነበር፣ ምንጭ ካልሆነ። በዚህ ዘመን የሰዉ ልጅ ጥበብ ኣድጎ ዉሃን ወደ ላይ በማፍሰስ እስከቤት ድረስ ማምጣት ይቻላል። ስለዚህ ለጠበል ወንዝ ከመሄድ ጠበሉን ወደ ቤት በማምጣት ዘመናዊ ማድረግ ኣይቻልም ወይ ብሎ መወያያት ኣይቻልም? ከመንቀፍ ኣይሻልም?

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Re: አለም ብረን ነየየ!

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Post by Odie » 21 Sep 2024, 09:23

Thanks for the post horus!

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Post by Naga Tuma » 22 Sep 2024, 19:25

Dama wrote:
20 Sep 2024, 21:14
Horus Brotherhood of Gurage Christains are American Christian Rightwingers for the Church and State
America is Christian= Any Christian is Gurage
The idea of separation of Church and State that I have heard about is really simple.

The head of ቃሉ institution doesn’t get involved in choosing the head of ገዳ institution or አባ ገዳ። After አባ ገዳ is elected, the chief ቃሉ is invited and anoints. That is what is called ሙደ።

The idea is that simple.

If these were to be applied in the US, the Chief Priest or Cardinal of the US doesn’t elect the President of the US. The elected President would be anointed by the Chief Priest or Cardinal instead of taking oath of office from the Chief Justice of the US.

As far as I know, it has no policy about educating anyone about anything.

These simple ideas are well known by the keepers of the people who established them in the first place.

Back in 1997, I heard a representative of a Native American community in Colorado speak at a conference for students that America’s founding fathers learned about the process of peaceful transfer of power from how it used to be done by Native Americans. From what I remember, she said the process of handing power to the next elected leader is performed by a woman and that a statue commemorating it is at the Capitol in Washington, DC.

I just googled about what I heard at that event. My best recollection about it suggests that the speaker was referring to what is now called The Statue of Freedom that is on top of the Capitol.

May be those who are not familiar with the idea of peaceful transfer of power would benefit by learning about it. May be Donald Trump would have benefited from paying a visit to a Native American community before going to his January 6th, 2020, rally in Washington, DC.

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