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[Zack]

I never understood how he linked Kerenite with you,,, Somali man speaks fluantly Somali and i can assure you that it is his Mother tongue Kerenite is a tigre from Eritea and speaks Tigrinya tigre and maybe even Amharic i am not sure but i seen him speak tigre and tigrinya that case Kerenite and Somali man if they are the same person he speaks Somali fluently and tigre and Tigrinya which is absurd unless Kerenite grew up his entire adult life in Somalia where he learned Somali i can not make that link what so sever .

Dr Zackovich

[Sadacha Macca]

Looks like agame sister dama is kissing up to the somalis, hoping they embrace her and perhaps assimilate her. Interesting indeed.
The somalis are welcoming, they'll help you.
What's a good somali girl name for you?
No more tirhas or zewdy, your tigrayan female name, now it'll be halima, or khadija, etc.

I

Why are you always obsessed with whether one is a man or woman or their ethnicity? You're a sick person.

Why must people lie about their ethnicity and gender online? You're a sick person. They're sick persons.
I just hate lies and deception, beloved tigrayan he-she abyssinialadyboy aka eden aka sarcasm aka kerenite.
It's nice to see you defending your tigrayan comrade dama.
I love the unity there..it's nice to see.

Ebbet af Gallaw, stop personal attacks. If you can't contribute to knowledge share, fck out.

Tigrayan sister don't be so mad. It's not good for you. Eshi?
What knowledge? All you did was make a random statement.
With no proof to substantiate the claim.
Yes..somalis have the most lands, but what about tigrayans?
Tell us how much lands they conquered?



Zack, surprise surprise, here you are to defend what perhaps is one of your other accounts. So predictable

[Somaliman]

Dialect speakers need translators to hear each other. I guess that different. Educate me.

Dialect speakers need translators to hear each other. I guess that different.

What do you mean by this?

Are the dialects so distant to each other, having separated in distance and time, creating each others' isolation, that the speakers of the different dialects do not understand each other?

Good question.

No, they're not distant to each other but very close, as Maay is the origin or source of the Maxaa. Even someone who was exposed to one can still understand a good portion of what's said in the other dialect, provided they make an effort and show interest.

It's one language with minor, very negligible, regional differences. Linguists call them intelligible dialects.
In most cases, also depending on individual's hearing and language ability, an individual from Jubaland can undetstand a speakers from Hargeisa. The Jubaland individual's mother dialect is Maay and whereas the Hargeisa mother tongue being Maxaa.
Two dialects:
Maay spoken in Somalia, Kenya and Ethiopia.
Maxaa spoken in the north and Djibuti.

You're right, Maay is also spoken both in Kenya and Ethiopia.

Whether Maay and Maxaa are two languages or simply dialects from linguistics' perspective is a debate that has been going on for many decades.

[Somaliman]

I never understood how he linked Kerenite with you,,, Somali man speaks fluantly Somali and i can assure you that it is his Mother tongue Kerenite is a tigre from Eritea and speaks Tigrinya tigre and maybe even Amharic i am not sure but i seen him speak tigre and tigrinya that case Kerenite and Somali man if they are the same person he speaks Somali fluently and tigre and Tigrinya which is absurd unless Kerenite grew up his entire adult life in Somalia where he learned Somali i can not make that link what so sever .

Dr Zackovich

Kani waa dhagax, waxba ka isku daalin.

[sun]

I never understood how he linked Kerenite with you,,, Somali man speaks fluantly Somali and i can assure you that it is his Mother tongue Kerenite is a tigre from Eritea and speaks Tigrinya tigre and maybe even Amharic i am not sure but i seen him speak tigre and tigrinya that case Kerenite and Somali man if they are the same person he speaks Somali fluently and tigre and Tigrinya which is absurd unless Kerenite grew up his entire adult life in Somalia where he learned Somali i can not make that link what so sever .

Dr Zackovich

I understand what you are saying. On the other hand make sure that there are millions of issues in the world which you may not be able to link together and fully understand them. So, better have the benefit of the doubts!

[Dama]

The Somali language is may may and Maxa tiri language
May may is only spoke in south western Somalia. Where as the maxa tiri language is spoken through out Somalia and also in Djibouti and the Somali province currently occupied by Ethiopia and also Kenya north eastern province I think only 10 percent of the Somali ethnicity understand the may may dialect I have hard time understanding how ever it I listen closely and deeply I understand Some of it or atleast what they insinuating the same granmer but some times different order of grammer and a bit different words


Dr Zackovich

You meant the former British Protectorate of Ogaden and the British Protectorate of the Northern Frontier District
(NFD) in Kenya.

Under the UN Charter on Decolonization, British stripped Somalis of these regions their internationally recognjzed rights to self-determination to be independent, to join another country with a specfic political arrangement such as federation or confederation or to remain a British subject, on a referendum. They were not given those right of plebscite.

It's illegal for a colonizing power to transfer its possession of land and people to another government without the vote of the people. I am not sure about the criminal liabilities of of Ethiopia and Kenya in these violations of international law on decolonization of subject peoples for their willful receipt of territories and populations they did not have rights to, however certainly knew that the subject Somalis of both regions did not give consent.

In Ethiopia, public opinion is liberal about justice, rights and consent. If not upto cessation, public opinion is advanced to that of very empowered internal autonomy. As of the current political maturity of Ethiopia, there will never be a law outlawing cessation.

But Kenya's Kibaki enacted a law illegalizing cessation when Mombassans protested for equitable development.

[sun]

I never understood how he linked Kerenite with you,,, Somali man speaks fluantly Somali and i can assure you that it is his Mother tongue Kerenite is a tigre from Eritea and speaks Tigrinya tigre and maybe even Amharic i am not sure but i seen him speak tigre and tigrinya that case Kerenite and Somali man if they are the same person he speaks Somali fluently and tigre and Tigrinya which is absurd unless Kerenite grew up his entire adult life in Somalia where he learned Somali i can not make that link what so sever .

Dr Zackovich

Kani waa dhagax, waxba ka isku daalin.

Sidee madax dhagax ah iyo cago dhoobo ah oo been abuur ah ugu yeedhi karaan kuwa kale madaxa dhagaxa?

Do you know what "mataa dhaga" means in afaan Oromo the beautiful?

[Zack]

The Somali language is may may and Maxa tiri language
May may is only spoke in south western Somalia. Where as the maxa tiri language is spoken through out Somalia and also in Djibouti and the Somali province currently occupied by Ethiopia and also Kenya north eastern province I think only 10 percent of the Somali ethnicity understand the may may dialect I have hard time understanding how ever it I listen closely and deeply I understand Some of it or atleast what they insinuating the same granmer but some times different order of grammer and a bit different words


Dr Zackovich

You meant the former British Protectorate of Ogaden and the British Protectorate of the Northern Frontier District
(NFD) in Kenya.

Under the UN Charter on Decolonization, British stripped Somalis of these regions their internationally recognjzed rights to self-determination to be independent, to join another country with a specfic political arrangement such as federation of confederation or to remain a British subject, on a referendum. They were not given those right of plebscite.

It's illegal for a colonizing power to transfer its possession of land and people to another government without the vote of the people. I am not sure about the criminal liabilities of of Ethiopia and Kenya in these violations of international law on decolonization of subject peoples for their willful receipt of territories and populations they did not have rights to, however certainly knew that the subject Somalis of both regions did not give consent.

In Ethiopia, public opinion is liberal about justice, rights and consent. If not upto cessation, public opinion is advanced to that of very empowered internal utonomy. As of the current political maturity of Ethiopia, there will never be a law outlawing cessation.
But Kenya's Kibaki enacted a law illegalizing cessation when Mombassans protested for equitable development.

The Ogaden region had little to do with the British, aside from perhaps the Hawd and Reserved Area, which were part of the British Protectorate, alongside British Protectorate of Somaliland. The Ogaden and Somali regions were, in fact, conquered by Menelik II. When Britain defeated the Italians in the second world war , rather than granting independence to these regions, they were returned back to Haile Selassie.

Similarly, in the case of the Northern Frontier District (NFD), Britain had promised a referendum to the Somalis living there. The majority chose to unite with Somalia, but Britain failed to honour the outcome of the referendum. This was largely due to pressure from the Kenyan Bantus, who threatened to expel all British personnel and seize the assets of British landowners if Britain did not disregard the referendum results and support a unified Kenya with the NFD as part of it.


Dr Zackovich
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[AbyssiniaLady]

The Somali language is may may and Maxa tiri language
May may is only spoke in south western Somalia. Where as the maxa tiri language is spoken through out Somalia and also in Djibouti and the Somali province currently occupied by Ethiopia and also Kenya north eastern province I think only 10 percent of the Somali ethnicity understand the may may dialect I have hard time understanding how ever it I listen closely and deeply I understand Some of it or atleast what they insinuating the same granmer but some times different order of grammer and a bit different words


Dr Zackovich

You meant the former British Protectorate of Ogaden and the British Protectorate of the Northern Frontier District
(NFD) in Kenya.

Under the UN Charter on Decolonization, British stripped Somalis of these regions their internationally recognjzed rights to self-determination to be independent, to join another country with a specfic political arrangement such as federation of confederation or to remain a British subject, on a referendum. They were not given those right of plebscite.

It's illegal for a colonizing power to transfer its possession of land and people to another government without the vote of the people. I am not sure about the criminal liabilities of of Ethiopia and Kenya in these violations of international law on decolonization of subject peoples for their willful receipt of territories and populations they did not have rights to, however certainly knew that the subject Somalis of both regions did not give consent.

In Ethiopia, public opinion is liberal about justice, rights and consent. If not upto cessation, public opinion is advanced to that of very empowered internal utonomy. As of the current political maturity of Ethiopia, there will never be a law outlawing cessation.
But Kenya's Kibaki enacted a law illegalizing cessation when Mombassans protested for equitable development.

The Ogaden region had little to do with the British, aside from perhaps the Hawd and Reserved Area, which were part of the British Protectorate, alongside British Protectorate of Somaliland. The Ogaden and Somali regions were, in fact, conquered by Menelik II. When Britain defeated the Italians in the second world war , rather than granting independence to these regions, they were returned back to Haile Selassie.

Similarly, in the case of the Northern Frontier District (NFD), Britain had promised a referendum to the Somalis living there. The majority chose to unite with Somalia, but Britain failed to honour the outcome of the referendum. This was largely due to pressure from the Kenyan Bantus, who threatened to expel all British personnel and seize the assets of British landowners if Britain did not disregard the referendum results and support a unified Kenya with the NFD as part of it.


Dr Zackovich
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Bâstard liar mothêrfûcker.

Menelik didn't conquer a single inch of Somali lands, you are not Somali, Get Somalis out of your dirty Tigrayan mouth.

[Somaliman]

The Somali language is may may and Maxa tiri language
May may is only spoke in south western Somalia. Where as the maxa tiri language is spoken through out Somalia and also in Djibouti and the Somali province currently occupied by Ethiopia and also Kenya north eastern province I think only 10 percent of the Somali ethnicity understand the may may dialect I have hard time understanding how ever it I listen closely and deeply I understand Some of it or atleast what they insinuating the same granmer but some times different order of grammer and a bit different words


Dr Zackovich

You meant the former British Protectorate of Ogaden and the British Protectorate of the Northern Frontier District
(NFD) in Kenya.

Under the UN Charter on Decolonization, British stripped Somalis of these regions their internationally recognjzed rights to self-determination to be independent, to join another country with a specfic political arrangement such as federation of confederation or to remain a British subject, on a referendum. They were not given those right of plebscite.

It's illegal for a colonizing power to transfer its possession of land and people to another government without the vote of the people. I am not sure about the criminal liabilities of of Ethiopia and Kenya in these violations of international law on decolonization of subject peoples for their willful receipt of territories and populations they did not have rights to, however certainly knew that the subject Somalis of both regions did not give consent.

In Ethiopia, public opinion is liberal about justice, rights and consent. If not upto cessation, public opinion is advanced to that of very empowered internal utonomy. As of the current political maturity of Ethiopia, there will never be a law outlawing cessation.
But Kenya's Kibaki enacted a law illegalizing cessation when Mombassans protested for equitable development.

The Ogaden region had little to do with the British, aside from perhaps the Hawd and Reserved Area, which were part of the British Protectorate, alongside British Protectorate of Somaliland. The Ogaden and Somali regions were, in fact, conquered by Menelik II. When Britain defeated the Italians in the second world war , rather than granting independence to these regions, they were returned back to Haile Selassie.

Similarly, in the case of the Northern Frontier District (NFD), Britain had promised a referendum to the Somalis living there. The majority chose to unite with Somalia, but Britain failed to honour the outcome of the referendum. This was largely due to pressure from the Kenyan Bantus, who threatened to expel all British personnel and seize the assets of British landowners if Britain did not disregard the referendum results and support a unified Kenya with the NFD as part of it.


Dr Zackovich
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Bâstard liar mothêrfûcker,

Menelik didn't conquer a single inch of Somali lands, you are not Somali, Get Somalis out of your dirty Tigrayan mouth.

The Ogaden and Somali regions were, in fact, conquered by Menelik II. When Britain defeated the Italians in the second world war , rather than granting independence to these regions, they were returned back to Haile Selassie.

This is actually not true at all.

In addition, how was this territory "returned back to Haile Selassie", as it had never belonged to him!

SinLady, thanks for attracting my attention to this.

[Zack]

How could the Ogaden region not have been conquered by Menelik II, and how did it then become part of Abyssinia? What a ludicrous claim you are making there, Abyssinia Lady.

Indeed, Somali man you are correct that it did not originally belong to him or the Habeshas. However, the British arrived in East Africa in the late 19th century. Around 1882, Menelik began challenging the Emir of Harar, eventually capturing the Harar region a few years later. Shortly thereafter, he extended his conquests to much of the Ogaden region. In the 1870s, Menelik had already subdued much of the Galla territories. Following the Battle of Adwa, where Menelik decisively defeated the Italians, the Anglo-Abyssinian Treaty was established, likely around 1897 if i am corrrect. It was then that Britain recognized Ethiopia in its current form, as it stands today. But you are right Britain should have given the region self determination when Britain defeated the Italians in the second world war but they gave it back to Haile sellasie who was the nephew of Menelik II. Because of the 1897 treaty they signed with Abyssinia.

Dr Zackovich

[Dama]

Looks like agame sister dama is kissing up to the somalis, hoping they embrace her and perhaps assimilate her. Interesting indeed.
The somalis are welcoming, they'll help you.
What's a good somali girl name for you?
No more tirhas or zewdy, your tigrayan female name, now it'll be halima, or khadija, etc.

Rotten imbecile. Liar



I

Why are you always obsessed with whether one is a man or woman or their ethnicity? You're a sick person.

Why must people lie about their ethnicity and gender online? You're a sick person. They're sick persons.
I just hate lies and deception, beloved tigrayan he-she abyssinialadyboy aka eden aka sarcasm aka kerenite.
It's nice to see you defending your tigrayan comrade dama.
I love the unity there..it's nice to see.

Ebbet af Gallaw, stop personal attacks. If you can't contribute to knowledge share, fck out.

Tigrayan sister don't be so mad. It's not good for you. Eshi?
What knowledge? All you did was make a random statement.
With no proof to substantiate the claim.
Yes..somalis have the most lands, but what about tigrayans?
Tell us how much lands they conquered?



Zack, surprise surprise, here you are to defend what perhaps is one of your other accounts. So predictable

[Zack]

So sadacha thinks i am This Lady who is a Galla her self or Affar and i am actually talking to my self hahah

Dr Zackovich

[Dama]

Zack

Ogaden, land of the Ogadeeni Somalis

"The region was granted to Ethiopian Emperor Menelik II in 1897 by the British after he had taken it in military conquest in 1887. The region was later annexed to Italian Somaliland in 1936, then returned to Ethiopia by the British in 1948 over the protest of some of its inhabitants, which was deeply upsetting to Somali nationalists."


https://rpl.hds.harvard.edu/faq/ogaden# ... 0in%201887.

[Zack]

Indeed, I concur that Menelik II annexed the region in the late 19th century. Subsequently, the Anglo-Abyssinian Treaty was signed, through which Britain formally recognised the sovereignty of Ethiopia, encompassing the Ogaden region.


Dr Zackovich

[ittuabafarda]

Don't you dare call those Somalis at Villa Mogadishu Africans. They are Arabs through and through. They also speak jamaayeel(college) Somali not the ordinary Somali language you hear in the streets and villages. So get your record straight.

[Somaliman]

Don't you dare call those Somalis at Villa Mogadishu Africans. They are Arabs through and through. They also speak jamaayeel(college) Somali not the ordinary Somali language you hear in the streets and villages. So get your record straight.

You dotard in a nursing home, whose mental faculties have seriously declined,

Forum users have completely ignored your childish and stupid threads, so now you desperately bring your dirty Galla ar'se over here!

Go fuc'k yourself, you bas'tard son of a bit'ch fuc'ker!

[Zack]

Gaala madowda ha isku mashquulin wa qawm khariban

Dr Zackovich

[Somaliman]

Gaala madowda ha isku mashquulin wa qawm khariban

Dr Zackovich

Hore ma u maqashay maahmaahda: "Ciirtaada dhamaa caydaada yaqaan"?

Dulligan waa Galla-dii ay Soomaaliya ay gacan qabatay, waxbarasho, guryo bilaash ah iyo shaqo ay siisey, oo xittaa ay u habeysey inay u soo dhoofaan Mareykanka, oo waliba la sintay Soomaalida, markaasuu Soomaalida caydeeda iyo hoos u dhigideeda halkan la soo fadhiyaa. Waa 80 jir, afkiisaan ka hayaa.

[ittuabafarda]

By Etta James and Ella incarnate Maryan Mursal. She is serenading us with her hit 'Somaliland' in her heavenly voice. Hey eyal-al=souqs! Shut up and listen!!!

How about this one?

And this for the potty mouths!!!

Silence!!! I am dancing to the tune of this one- Harimade Ana Haban; Harimade Ana Haban to the eternal rendition by Bokh.