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[Jikaar]

I have a solution . you join your brothers In Somalia and let the afar to have the decision to join Ethiopia or Eritrea.

Here again red line we cant allow Ethiopia to have access to our seas whether in Djibouti or Somalia thats the red line


Dr Zackovich

Well we are not Somalia or Djibouti. So I respect your policy.

[Zack]

if you are not from Somalia and Djibouti what are you then , Since Somaliland is a a Mamuul goboleed

Dr Zackovich

[Jikaar]

if you are not from Somalia and Djibouti what are you then , Since Somaliland is a a Mamuul goboleed

Dr Zackovich

Haw about a maamul goboleed of those you are protesting against. Every time you disrespect me. You will go into a deep shiit.

[Somaliman]

Both of you are hiding from the truth and reality.

Both of you are from Ethiopia. You've failed to get your rights, freedoms, and feeling that you belong to Ethiopia, like any other Ethiopian. Most of Ethiopians do not recognise you Somalis in Ethiopia as Ethiopians to date. This has also been expressed on this forum. Needless to add that the fifth kilil is known as an open prison to this very day, and everybody recalls the atrocities Ethiopia has committed in your kilil.

You can't fight for your rights and ascertain that your ar'ses belong in Ethiopia, therefore, you've to cowardly run away and associate your ar'ses one with Djibouti and the other one Somalia by clan affiliation for a bit of dignity, even though neither of you has ever lived in these countries.

What you can't you fight for your rights where your ar'ses were born - Ethiopia?

[Zack]

I do not shy away from acknowledging my Ethiopian origins, though I disagree with Ethiopian politics and politicians. Moreover, I do not seek the recognition of Ethiopians to view me as one of their own, as it is an identity I do not wish to associate with. My desire is to distance myself from Ethiopia. Having lived in the West for more years than I have in either Ethiopia or Djibouti, I consider Djibouti to be my true home. However, the land occupied by Ethiopia Shinile holds as much value to us as Djibouti does. For us, there is no distinction between the two.


Dr Zackovich

[Zack]

if you are not from Somalia and Djibouti what are you then , Since Somaliland is a a Mamuul goboleed

Dr Zackovich

Haw about a maamul goboleed of those you are protesting against. Every time you disrespect me. You will go into a deep shiit.

Against whom am I protesting? In what way have I shown you any disrespect? I merely stated that you are not a country; how does that offend you? Should i lie and tell you that you are indeed a country?


Dr Zackovich

[Jikaar]

I am HJ isaaq , and my whole world is Somaliland. I personally never seen Somalia or Djibouti. But I lived in Ethiopia for a couple of months to reach Europe.

[Jikaar]

if you are not from Somalia and Djibouti what are you then , Since Somaliland is a a Mamuul goboleed

Dr Zackovich

Haw about a maamul goboleed of those you are protesting against. Every time you disrespect me. You will go into a deep shiit.

Against whom am I protesting? In what way have I shown you any disrespect? I merely stated that you are not a country; how does that offend you? Should i lie and tell you that you are indeed a country?


Dr Zackovich

Somaliland is indeed a country . A progressive one in good times. And the most destructive one In difficult times. Remember we don't give a shiit about your Djibouti, Ethiopia, Somalia or the current world order. Any one who doesn't pay respect to me. Won't get any respect from me. If you can prove me wrong let's continue this same path , we have nothing to loose .

[Somaliman]

I am HJ isaaq , and my whole world is Somaliland. I personally never seen Somalia or Djibouti. But I lived in Ethiopia for a couple of months to reach Europe.

But I lived in Ethiopia for a couple of months to reach Europe.

Liar.

Don't fuc'king waste my time to bring up all your scribbles in which you were clearly stating and even boasting to have been born and lived in Ethiopia before you claimed asylum as a Somali from the south of Somalia.

You're not even a man but a dirty bit'ch, sorry, bit'ches.

[Horus]

Somaliland is a Country because the people of Somaliland, Somalilanders said so. This is the fact. Now all sorts of colonial and post-colonial legal fiction can talk about international norms, and post-colonial ruled based world order. That good for post-colonial neo-colonial civil service class. The harsh and invictus historical reality is what the Somalilander considers himself and what he wants to be in this world. An Italian post colonial Somali in Mogadishou can't determine who the Somalilander must be. That is probably the most stupid position a thinking animal can take.

I had always held that SLR statehood issue was totally separate from Ethiopian quest for a Sea access. In the best of alignment of all things necessary the countries would have a congruence of interest (alignment of their national interest) and would close the deal. If regional and global circumstances frustrate their current deal, they will pursue their objectives by other means jointly or individually.

The best possible outcome would be that MOU will become and agreement before December 31 2024 - before arrival of Egyptian Army at Mogadishou. In the worst case scenario, these objectives will be delayed for another day.

At this point, the leaders of Somaliland have not told us anything about the status of ze MOU, nor did the leaders of Ethiopia.
when these parties (owners of the deal) say MOU is dead, then it will be dead. That is not a fact yet.

[Zack]

The Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) effectively died and lost its relevance the moment Ethiopia began negotiating with the Somali government, likely in pursuit of a more favorable agreement. However, Somalia has remained steadfast in its political stance, insisting that Somali sovereignty must be respected before any face-to-face discussions can take place. Interestingly, during the recent talks in Turkey, the Somaliland government publicly announced via Twitter that they are ready to implement the MOU. It is Ethiopia that appears to be delaying or unwilling to reach an agreement with Somaliland on this matter. The separatists in Hargeisa are eager, even desperate, to offer Ethiopia access to the sea. The issue, however, is that Ethiopia seems either unable or unwilling to grant them what they desire most: international diplomatic recognition.

Instead, Prime Minister Abiy seems to be attempting to negotiate a more advantageous deal with the Somali government, one that would grant Ethiopia rights, or partial rights, over Somaliland’s territorial waters—without offering Somaliland anything in return. The problem, of course, is that the Somali government would never agree to cede any part of its territory to Ethiopia. What the Somali government is doing, as it often does, is exposing Ethiopian aggression towards Somalia to the internatiomal community , and ensuring that Ethiopia is not included in the new military peacekeeping force. A replacement for Ethiopian forces has already been found, and they will be Egyptian. Things are not going well for Ethiopia, nor for our separatist cousins in Somaliland.


Dr Zackovich

[Somaliman]

Somaliland is a Country because the people of Somaliland, Somalilanders said so. This is the fact. Now all sorts of colonial and post-colonial legal fiction can talk about international norms, and post-colonial ruled based world order. That good for post-colonial neo-colonial civil service class. The harsh and invictus historical reality is what the Somalilander considers himself and what he wants to be in this world. An Italian post colonial Somali in Mogadishou can't determine who the Somalilander must be. That is probably the most stupid position a thinking animal can take.

I had always held that SLR statehood issue was totally separate from Ethiopian quest for a Sea access. In the best of alignment of all things necessary the countries would have a congruence of interest (alignment of their national interest) and would close the deal. If regional and global circumstances frustrate their current deal, they will pursue their objectives by other means jointly or individually.

The best possible outcome would be that MOU will become and agreement before December 31 2024 - before arrival of Egyptian Army at Mogadishou. In the worst case scenario, these objectives will be delayed for another day.

At this point, the leaders of Somaliland have not told us anything about the status of ze MOU, nor did the leaders of Ethiopia.
when these parties (owners of the deal) say MOU is dead, then it will be dead. That is not a fact yet.

[Jikaar]

I am HJ isaaq , and my whole world is Somaliland. I personally never seen Somalia or Djibouti. But I lived in Ethiopia for a couple of months to reach Europe.

But I lived in Ethiopia for a couple of months to reach Europe.

Liar.

Don't fuc'king waste my time to bring up all you scribbles in which you were clearly stating and even boasting to have been born and lived in Ethiopia before you claimed asylum as a Somali from the south of Somalia.

You're not even a man but a dirty bit'ch, sorry, bit'ches.

You faqash what's your subclan . You know HJ are 99% Somalilanders. As a isaaq We also have great influence In both Ethiopia and Djibouti. But we have nothing to do with Somalia. That's the fact. The only Somalilanders in Somalia are those isaaq alshabaab leaders we kicked out from our country some 20 years ago.

[Jikaar]

Horus vs Zack vs Mr faqash. All fighting because of me. I should buy lot's of popcorn . To watch this drama. I am gonna reward to who ever pleases me the most.

[Jikaar]

I take the opportunity to say In Somaliland we believe the gurages are good at business. That's all I hear about that Community. But In here they are hated by the other Ethiopian's. You guys must be doing something right.

[Horus]

I take the opportunity to say In Somaliland we believe the gurages are good at business. That's all I hear about that Community. But In here they are hated by the other Ethiopian's. You guys must be doing something right.

Jilaar,
Actually Gurages are a people loved by everybody. Here on this Forum some Eritreans, some Tgirays & some stupid Amaras hate me because I an Ethiopian nationalist. All I say is they can go fu***k themselves

[Zack]

Horus Amhara hate you for being a lacky of Abiye, why are you a lacky of Abiye Ahmed

Dr Zackovich

[Jikaar]

I take the opportunity to say In Somaliland we believe the gurages are good at business. That's all I hear about that Community. But In here they are hated by the other Ethiopian's. You guys must be doing something right.

Jilaar,
Actually Gurages are a people loved by everybody. Here on this Forum some Eritreans, some Tgirays & some stupid Amaras hate me because I an Ethiopian nationalist. All I say is they can go fu***k themselves

Brother if you see habeshas against you. Take the law into your own hands. If they don't care about Ethiopia why would you ? Just protect your own properties . If you want guns contact me. I have a lot more guns to sale. Don't worry about the price it's affordable just like your every household items , it won't be more expensive than your injera pan.

[Horus]

Horus Amhara hate you for being a lacky of Abiye, why are you a lacky of Abiye Ahmed

Dr Zackovich

Beause I choose to be a water carrier of Egypt, Eritrean failed state one man government and childish Somali wananbe Said Bare Hasan Sheik. The Amara I support is the Ethiopian Amara. Weyane You, Weyane Tigre, & Weyane Amara - different sides same coin!

[Somaliman]

I take the opportunity to say In Somaliland we believe the gurages are good at business. That's all I hear about that Community. But In here they are hated by the other Ethiopian's. You guys must be doing something right.

Jilaar,
Actually Gurages are a people loved by everybody. Here on this Forum some Eritreans, some Tgirays & some stupid Amaras hate me because I an Ethiopian nationalist. All I say is they can go fu***k themselves

C'mon, stop portraying yourself with what you perfectly know you're not. You're a clown and, trust me, no one on this forum hates you, as you entertain us free of charge.

Your paranoia speaks volumes about your fakeness.

Have you ever read of me saying to anyone that they hate me, unless they've clearly expressed it?