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[sarcasm]

TDF's incursion into Amhara Region marked as the beginning of the end for the Tigray War. It relieved Tigray from the burden of carrying the scourge of war and feeding both conflicting armies alone.

Amhara Region started to feel the burden of the scourge of war and feeding both conflicting armies. Amhara Region people started asking what they get out the war. The incursions helped to create a massive crack on the Abiy, Isaias & Amhara Elite Alliance. Abiy was forced to look at ending the war and 4 months after the incursions, he committed to a negotiated end the war.

The Russians will question what they are getting out of the war and they will soon push for an end to the conflict? Will Putin listen d work towards ending the war with a peace deal? It remains to be seen.

[Tigray People]

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Your analysis and comparison the coward Ukraine with the heroic Tigray People is very low IQ on your part.

First of all Ukraine is supported by all western countries military generals, hundreds of Billions dollars money, weapons, latest technology weapons,and support from united nations as well but they have lost the wars.

The Ukraine don't have war culture like the heroic Tigray People who smashed the fascist European army Egypt ottoman empire Arab countries, Soviet Union East Germany Israel Cuba etc etc.

On the other hand the Tigray People and TDF Army had no support from any countries to help them with weapons, money, political diplomacy 4 years ago when they fought the entire ethiopia eritrea Amhara somalia Army 8 regions special forces Arab countries Turkey Russian China Iran destroyed them on the battlefield chasing the invaders to the door step of Addis Ababa that shocked the world.

Hence your comparison of Ukraine army with the heroic Tigray People is wrong and unfair for the Tigray People war victory who did it with the help of God and themselves only.

BTW Russian may want to lure the Ukraine army to encircle them and crush them.Lets and see

The Republic of Tigray People!!!

[sesame]

Ukrainians are known as the Agame of Europe. So no doubt they act like Agames. They are fighting a war to serve others. Their country is destroyed just as Agamelad was. They have already lost hundreds of thousands and will probaby lose over a million by the time the war ends. And they will have no future just as the Agames.

[Tigray People]

Coward Ascari sesame

ATA Chenawi WEDI [deleted] more than 85 thousands Ascari Eritreans soldiers were killed in Tigray serving their master Abiye Ahmed Amhara oromo and thier colonizer Ethiopia and they died in vain.

The evil eritrea will be destroyed by ethnics jebertie Rashida Afar Akelguzay Muslims very soon.

The Republic of Tigray People!!!

[Fiyameta]

[sarcasm]

Sarcasm

Your analysis and comparison the coward Ukraine with the heroic Tigray People is very low IQ on your part.

First of all Ukraine is supported by all western countries military generals, hundreds of Billions dollars money, weapons, latest technology weapons,and support from united nations as well but they have lost the wars.

The Ukraine don't have war culture like the heroic Tigray People who smashed the fascist European army Egypt ottoman empire Arab countries, Soviet Union East Germany Israel Cuba etc etc.

On the other hand the Tigray People and TDF Army had no support from any countries to help them with weapons, money, political diplomacy 4 years ago when they fought the entire ethiopia eritrea Amhara somalia Army 8 regions special forces Arab countries Turkey Russian China Iran destroyed them on the battlefield chasing the invaders to the door step of Addis Ababa that shocked the world.

Hence your comparison of Ukraine army with the heroic Tigray People is wrong and unfair for the Tigray People war victory who did it with the help of God and themselves only.

BTW Russian may want to lure the Ukraine army to encircle them and crush them.Lets and see

The Republic of Tigray People!!!

Hi Tigray People,

I agree with the point you are making. I was not intending to do a full comparison of Ukraine's internationlly supported defense with Tigray's single-handed መኸተ against Africa's highly militarized countries with their unlimited budgets and Arab & Turkish world-class drone military supports. Actually it can be describes as a David vs many Goliaths battle. I was just highlighting TDF's strategy of forcing the theatre / venue to be outside Tigray. TDF said we will play away this time and Abiy said it's actually best to play at home ከደጀን ጋር

Tigray is cradel of civilization in this part of the world. Belarus and Russia also claim Kiev as their cultural ancestor. Russia is also occupying parts of Ukraine with intention of annexing the territories. The Federal Government is also forcefully occupying Tigray's territories. The aim of unconstitutional annexation of Tigray's territories is not a secret to anyone.

[sesame]

I agree with the point you are making. I was not intending to do a full comparison of Ukraine's internationlly supported defense with Tigray's single-handed መኸተ against Africa's highly militarized countries with their unlimited budgets and Arab world-class military supports. I was just highlighting TDF's strategy of forcing the theatre to be outside Tigray. TDF said we ill play away this time and Abiy said it's actually best to play at home ከደጀን ጋር

Poor Agame,

Forcing the war into Amhara and Afar resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands of your Agame people. In the end, the Tigray Defeated Force was forced to surrender and was saved total annihilation by US intervention and not by its colossal strategic and tactical blunders. But you Agames will never accept the reality because your inferiority complex cannot handle reality. The Ukrainians are repeating all the Agame blunders. The war will end with their utter defeat and ruin just as the war ended with utter defeat and ruin of Chigray. Knowing when to quit is a great asset. It is only bulls that fight to the death!

[Deqi-Arawit]

Amhara Region started to feel the burden of the scourge of war and feeding both conflicting armies. Amhara Region people started asking what they get out the war. The incursions helped to create a massive crack on the Abiy, Isaias & Amhara Elite Alliance. Abiy was forced to look at ending the war and 4 months after the incursions, he committed to a negotiated end the war.

Agame lives in parallel world, the war ended when the Ethiopian forces entered mekelle while the northern Nobels entered Western Tigray while the leeche were squeezed having no escape Route. You entered amhara and exposed your force to barrage of air force and drone attack hence one million casualties

[Jikaar]

Russia doesn't want to defeat Ukraine completely. They are only interested to hold on the pro Russian territories they already took 10 years ago. Most Ukrainians accept this reality . But they are used by the West who have different agenda.

[sarcasm]

Amhara Region started to feel the burden of the scourge of war and feeding both conflicting armies. Amhara Region people started asking what they get out the war. The incursions helped to create a massive crack on the Abiy, Isaias & Amhara Elite Alliance. Abiy was forced to look at ending the war and 4 months after the incursions, he committed to a negotiated end the war.

28 Jun 2021 — The capital of Tigray, Mekelle, was liberated by TDF

20 July 2021 - TDF controlled Kobo in Amhara Region

29 October 2021 - TDF captured the town of Dessie

09 November 2021 - TDF reach Shoa Robit in North Shoa

11 November 2021 - Dina Mufti lists 4 terms of negotiation such as TDF withdrawal from Amhara and Afar

12 November 2021 - The US tells warns TDF not to march further than Debre Sina and release video of its preparedness and warning on BBC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-africa-59265578

20 November 2021 - UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres spoke with Tigray President Dr. Debretsion Gebremichael & Ethiopian PM Abiy Ahmed separately to broker negotiated end to the conflict, and TDF agree to withdraw from Amhara and Afar.

https://x.com/SeifGebre/status/1461866700685590534

24 November 2021 - TDF start withdrawing and Abiy starts to play jegra jegna when he was telling journalists on TV listing which towns he will control on what date (as TDF leaders give him their withdrawal list). The Ethiopian people were amazed at his bravery. Abiy became hero. TDF got what it wanted - negotiated end to the conflict. Everyone's happy.



Ethiopia gov’t outlines terms for possible Tigray ceasefire talks

Foreign ministry spokesperson says Tigrayan forces should exit Amhara and Afar regions, stop attacks and recognise gov’t legitimacy.

11 Nov 2021

The Ethiopian government has set out conditions for possible ceasefire talks with leaders of the Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF), following days of international diplomatic efforts aimed at halting intensifying hostilities.

Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed’s government has been locked in a year-long war with fighters from the northern Tigray region who have pushed south in recent months and have not ruled out a possible march on the capital, Addis Ababa.

Continue reading https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/11/ ... fire-talks

[sarcasm]

Ukrainian drone strikes on Russian facilities could shift dynamics of Moscow's war

Since mid-September, Ukraine has struck several ammunition depots deep inside Russia. How can these strikes impact Russia's offensive operations?

Ukrainian strikes against facilities within Russia could impact offensive operations throughout the theatre in Ukraine if Kyiv forces have the materiel, capabilities, and permission to conduct such a strike campaign against logistics and support facilities within Russia at scale.

This is the latest assessment by the Institute for the Study of War think tank (ISW) following the most recent cases on Wednesday and Thursday when Ukrainian forces reportedly struck a Shahed drone storage facility in the Krasnodar region and an ammunition warehouse in the Republic of Adygea in Russia.

According to the Ukrainian General Staff, Russian forces stored around 400 Shahed drones at the facility near Oktyabrsky in Krasnodar Krai.

The ISW noted that Russian forces rely on Shahed drones to strike both frontline and rear Ukrainian settlements and cities and expend roughly 10,000 artillery shells per day against frontline Ukrainian positions.

Continue reading https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024 ... oscows-war

[sarcasm]

It is the beginning of the end. Pentagon is giving Trump a good starting stage when he assumes power. He would tell Putin he would go further if he refuses to end the war. Ukraine has wanted to show that 'You cannot be peaceful unless you’re capable of great violence'. It has also given Putin excuse to blame the outgoing administration and save face when he negotiates for peace. That is my reading of the news. Glad the war is ending either way.


Biden allows Ukraine to strike inside Russia with missiles

US President Joe Biden has given the green light for Ukraine to use long-range missiles supplied by the US to strike Russia, US officials say.

The move marks a major change in policy for Washington which had refused for months to agree to Kyiv's requests for authorisation to use the ATACMS missiles outside its own borders .

On Sunday Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky reacted to the news - which came via briefings from US officials - saying "such things are not announced, missiles speak for themselves".

Russian President Vladimir Putin has previously warned Western nations against such a move, saying it would represent the Nato military alliance's "direct participation" in the Ukraine war.


He was yet to comment on the latest development although other senior Kremlin politicians described it as a serious escalation.

Washington’s decision on ATACMS is couched in terms of being limited to the defence of Ukrainian forces inside Russia's Kursk region, where Kyiv launched a surprise incursion in August.

In effect, the Biden administration is telling Ukraine that it will support its efforts to hold onto the small chunk of Russian territory it currently occupies, as a powerful bargaining chip for any possible negotiations in the future.


Serhiy Kuzan, chairman of the Kyiv-based Ukrainian Security and Cooperation Centre, told the BBC that Joe Biden's decision was "very important" to the country.

“It’s not something that will change the course of the war, but I think it will make our forces more equal.”

ATACMS can reach up to 300km (186 miles). Unnamed US officials have told the New York Times and the Washington Post that Biden's approval of Ukraine's use of the ATACMS came in response to Russia's decision to allow North Korean soldiers to fight in Ukraine.

Continue reading https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c789x0y91vvo

[Abere]

sarcasm,

Do not you even know basic arithmetic to do the win-loss math? This is a simple math. Both Tigray province and Ukraine are losers. It is improbable either Tigray or Ukraine will ever recover the territories they lost. Bit, it is a historic unfortunate they lost incalculable lives and properties. The more than 1 million lives in Tigray are sunk cost, have no salvage value. On the other hand, the Amhara people emerged victorious: first, they defeated Woyane and broke its backbone; second, they shattered the so-called Woyane-Own's constitutions, which even never allowed Amhara people complains of Wolqait etc.; third, so-called "Pretoria" is null and void by Amhara people ;and it is a blessing in disguise which produced a giant army of its own knows as FANO; fourth, Amhara got the chance to be better armed as its enemies ( it is no more a cake walk - you will end up losing another 1 million Tigre if you dare to cross); fourth, you are not only begging and l!cking Abiy Ahmed's feet to give you away Amhara land (which he cannot) you are now also begging Amhara to Return yourself as Refugee (while you were an occupier before - Ember Tegedalay). The fruits of hubris is humiliation - and Woyane earned that humiliation and disgrace, not by anyone but by Amhara people. Please do not count Be'Aden Gered an Amhara.

[Affable]

Eden, I prefer your first alias, I don’t know Ukraine strategy of “ incursion into Amhara region .” I assume you want to say Ukraine wants to go deep in to Russia using the TDF method. There is a problem there also. Since war started in our planet that is the very idea of it, going in to other’s territory.

[sarcasm]

Eden, I prefer your first alias, I don’t know Ukraine strategy of “ incursion into Amhara region .” I assume you want to say Ukraine wants to go deep in to Russia using the TDF method. There is a problem there also. Since war started in our planet that is the very idea of it, going in to other’s territory.

Hi Sam,

I think you misread the title. It says "TDF's strategy of incursion into Amhara Region". So, when Ukraine adopted TDF's successful strategy, it made incursion into Russia's undisputed territories. Today, Russia confirmed that Ukraine bombed 240km inside Russia. 240km is a straight line distance between Addis and Dessie. You need to remember Ukraine is not claiming ownership of the Russian territories it controls just like TDF was not claiming ownership of Amhara territories it overrun.

[Affable]

Eden, the order of words make a difference in meaning. You could argue as you did, and I could argue as I have done. You see the problem. If two people understand a sentence differently , it means the sentence needs ጥሩ ጥገና። If I were you, I would have written it : Is Ukraine invading Russia adopting TDF’s strategy of incursion into Amhara region.
By the way አለቆችሽ አልተቆጡም በፅሁፉሽ። TDF’s incursion into Amhara region. የ ፋኖ ቃለአቀባይ የፃፈው ነው የሚመስለው።

[sarcasm]

sarcasm,

Do not you even know basic arithmetic to do the win-loss math? This is a simple math.

Hi Abere,

I didn't think you would be such a simpleton. Winning or losing a war is measured on grand strategic level at achieving the object of war, the reason for which the war was fought.

The Isaias, Abiy & Amhara Elite / fake 'Ethiopianist' Alliance objective was to eliminating Tigray entity and TPLF, re-install a centralized / unitary state system and end the existing Constitutional Federalism.

Tigrays's objectives were to the survival of Tigray and TPLF, disbanding the Isaias, Abiy & Amhara Elite alliance and ensuring that the Constitutional Federalism is not touched without Tigray's consent.

War is one means of political intercourse, characterized by military force, to accomplish political ends. What political ends did the IAA Alliance achieve? The deal that ended the war confirmed that the IAA Alliance objectives were not met.

Tigray has single-handedly achieved the disbandment of the Abiy & Amhara Elite / fake 'Ethiopianist' Alliance. I am not going to waste your time by describing the current state of the Abiy / Amhara relationship. The countdown for Isaias / Abiy War has already begun.

TDF has ensured the survival of Tigray entity and TPLF.

PM Abiy & his Prosperity Party were forced to commit to keep Constitutional Federalism. The hopes of re-installation of a centralized / unitary state system was thrown out of window permanently. The Constitutional will not be touched without Tigray's consent. Read the first line of the Pretoria Agreement as well.

I don't think the true military personnel casualties of the IAA Alliance vs TDF has been disclosed yet, but let's suppose, for argument sake, that TDF's causalities are higher than IAA Alliance's. Then that wouldn't even prove winning. Look at the causalities numbers of the UK, USSR,USA and China Allied Powers vs Axis powers of Germany, Italy, and Japan. Although the Allied Powers had higher numbers of causalities, they won World War II.

When TDF released more that 15,000 IAA Alliance POWs, were you saying they should have killed them because winning is based on simple arithmetic? Did you think TDF were fools for letting them go to their mothers, fathers, wives, husbands, children and siblings? How will you measure Fano's success or failure? Do you get mad when they keep their POWs alive rather than kill them?


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[Abere]

sarcasm,
Well, the reality on the ground is very different from what you are trying to treat the agony of TPLF's defeat. As I said Abiy Ahmed is as loser as TPLF. Abiy Ahmed is decisively checked by Amhara Fano force - he miserably failed showing results to his boss, Mike Hammer. You can dream about the defunct TPLF constitution which no Amhara recognized it except Woyaen and OLF appointed Be'Aden. Thus, Tigray is very much scre.wed like Ukraine, it remain so.

TPLF not only lost million Tigre lives for nothing, but in also in the end it is evaporating into the thin air. After their humiliating loss, now they are at war with each other. Tigray is divided into antagonistic faction of South Tigray ( who often seen as less Tigre) and North Tigray. Now, the war is no more between Amhara and Woyane, it is between one those perceived as less than a Tigre and those Adowa/Axum Tigre. The south wanted the North to pack up and leave Mekele. Now, the fire is among Tigre. The end of something always has been ugly, this is how TPLF's final rest look like. RIP TPLF. You can dream, but reality already checked your wildest dream.

[sarcasm]

It is the beginning of the end. Pentagon is giving Trump a good starting stage when he assumes power. He would tell Putin he would go further if he refuses to end the war. Ukraine has wanted to show that 'You cannot be peaceful unless you’re capable of great violence'. It has also given Putin excuse to blame the outgoing administration and save face when he negotiates for peace. That is my reading of the news. Glad the war is ending either way.

Russia controlled 20% of Ukraine in June 2022. What percentage of more land did Putin control in almost 3 years of fighting? 1? 2? 3? Looks like Trump is giving Putin the opportunity of ending the war with some dignity.