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[Dama]

1. Identity

From what I heard from my grandma West Hararghe call themselves "Ituu" and Arsi "Barentu" and the Metehara "Karayu" the orgin of oromo is the word "Il Orma" the Borana are the first Oromo speaking clan by the way Oromo has a family tree of conquerers

Basically 2 brothers Borana and Barentu left Borana zone and migrated north their sons (Tulama, Karayu, Macha, Wallo) would settle in certain lands intermix with locals and make locals identify as "Tulama, Macha, Ittuu" etc

Barentu children who eventually form the eastern oromo clans (Arsi, Hararghe, Karayu, Walo, Raya) and Boranas children would eventually form the western oromo (Shawa, Jimma, Walaga, Illubabor)

So when you call yourself "Tulama" you are referring to a person first and foremost.

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2. Galila Tribe Source

Gelila are a tribe found in Wonchi/Dendi lake mountians meaning the residents are Gelila whom spoke a language similar to Girage

North of Gelila is Ambo which was called Ganz province home to the Gafat people who border span from Ambo to Gojam Abay river down to Holeta and into Horu Gudru Welega (Bizamo)

Do you have a solid scholarly reference for this?

I am not a student of history. However, I know some anecdotes that are yet to become a fuller picture of history.

The generation before me in the area called themselves Borana and Gabaro.

About 10 years ago, I asked a simple question on this forum: Who are the Gabaro of Ethiopia?

They didn’t call themselves Amhara or Guraghe. I have heard one story that Gabaro is a corrupted version of Gabare, land tiller. It was how they identified themselves unlike the pejorative identification ቆቱ by “others.”

I remember in the early 1990s about a story of a college student from Arsi. When other people asked his identity, he mentioned his Gosa. Some people got amused that he was so backward to have failed to call himself Oromo while speaking Oromigna.

I also remember hearing that before 1991, people in Hararghe identified themselves as Muslims instead of Oromo and that after 1991, they started to identify themselves as Oromo. One would ask why they hadn’t naturally identified themselves as Oromo before 1991.

A while back, I asked on this forum: ኦሮሞ ማነዉ?

So, if the Borana identified themselves as Borana instead of Oromo, who are the Oromo?

I am positive that this question sounds silly in the minds of cadres.

I am asking a scientific question that may take them a long time to fathom.

A scientific question gets more interesting with time.

Just recently, I realized the similarities in አከም፣ ሐኪም፣ አከመ after learning ከሜላህ means አከም ኣለህ?

A serious scholarly question here is how is it that one who says አከም is perceived to be, in the eyes of history, different in identity from another who says ሐኪም፣ አከመ?

The orma live around Moyale. The Libans do also live nearby, if my memory serves me right, now after 3 decades.
The Orma don't call themselves Orma Oromo or Orma Galla. Just orma.
There is speculation that Oromo is derived from Orma but no agreement on the etymology of Oromo from Orma. Best guess is a random choice of word.

[Dama]

Gelila are a tribe found in Wonchi/Dendi lake mountians meaning the residents are Gelila whom spoke a language similar to Girage

North of Gelila is Ambo which was called Ganz province home to the Gafat people who border span from Ambo to Gojam Abay river down to Holeta and into Horu Gudru Welega (Bizamo)

Thank you. Very informative.

[Noble Amhara]

Kkkkkkkkk

Where do you think shewa is?

Its in pakistan right?

1. Identity

From what I heard from my grandma West Hararghe call themselves "Ituu" and Arsi "Barentu" and the Metehara "Karayu" the orgin of oromo is the word "Il Orma" the Borana are the first Oromo speaking clan by the way Oromo has a family tree of conquerers

Basically 2 brothers Borana and Barentu left Borana zone and migrated north their sons (Tulama, Karayu, Macha, Wallo) would settle in certain lands intermix with locals and make locals identify as "Tulama, Macha, Ittuu" etc

Barentu children who eventually form the eastern oromo clans (Arsi, Hararghe, Karayu, Walo, Raya) and Boranas children would eventually form the western oromo (Shawa, Jimma, Walaga, Illubabor)

So when you call yourself "Tulama" you are referring to a person first and foremost.

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2. Galila Tribe Source

Gelila are a tribe found in Wonchi/Dendi lake mountians meaning the residents are Gelila whom spoke a language similar to Girage

North of Gelila is Ambo which was called Ganz province home to the Gafat people who border span from Ambo to Gojam Abay river down to Holeta and into Horu Gudru Welega (Bizamo)

Do you have a solid scholarly reference for this?

I am not a student of history. However, I know some anecdotes that are yet to become a fuller picture of history.

The generation before me in the area called themselves Borana and Gabaro.

About 10 years ago, I asked a simple question on this forum: Who are the Gabaro of Ethiopia?

They didn’t call themselves Amhara or Guraghe. I have heard one story that Gabaro is a corrupted version of Gabare, land tiller. It was how they identified themselves unlike the pejorative identification ቆቱ by “others.”

I remember in the early 1990s about a story of a college student from Arsi. When other people asked his identity, he mentioned his Gosa. Some people got amused that he was so backward to have failed to call himself Oromo while speaking Oromigna.

I also remember hearing that before 1991, people in Hararghe identified themselves as Muslims instead of Oromo and that after 1991, they started to identify themselves as Oromo. One would ask why they hadn’t naturally identified themselves as Oromo before 1991.

A while back, I asked on this forum: ኦሮሞ ማነዉ?

So, if the Borana identified themselves as Borana instead of Oromo, who are the Oromo?

I am positive that this question sounds silly in the minds of cadres.

I am asking a scientific question that may take them a long time to fathom.

A scientific question gets more interesting with time.

Just recently, I realized the similarities in አከም፣ ሐኪም፣ አከመ after learning ከሜላህ means አከም ኣለህ?

A serious scholarly question here is how is it that one who says አከም is perceived to be, in the eyes of history, different in identity from another who says ሐኪም፣ አከመ?

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Call Misraq,
So far you were BEADEN!
Now you come out as Oromuma of some sort? I don't think you are Noble showan. Ke-bale-betu ya-weke bu-da new!!! KKKKKKK!
OROMO name came from the German nazi Lutheran who called them Oromo when he was trying to convert them Oromo colony inside Ethiopia. Ever since they have not been good citizens!!
Go figure.

[Sadacha Macca]

Tigrayan sister dama,

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There's some sources. Yes Orma is a group of Oromos in Kenya. But no, J Krapf of Germany did not create the term oromo but he did see a great nation with great potential after meeting Oromos and did propose us having our own state, "Ormania."
Some called us the Germans of Africa. Which I know makes you burn with jealousy, envy, rage, etc.

Also yes there's a theory that like our habasha relatives, our original ancestors came from Arabia, before the habashat and ag'azi tribes came from there. So, instead of Madagascar being our original home, which is based on conjecture,.....