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HORUS'S ADVICE TO ETHIOPIAN GOVERNMENT - JUST SIGN THE MOU!

Post by Horus » 12 Aug 2024, 11:11

ፈሪ ሻምባኝ አይጠጣም! ኢትዮጵያ ማንኛውም አይነት ወደብ ተቀብላ የሱማሌ ውጥንቅጥ ፖለቲካና እስላማዊ ጦርነት ውስጥ መግባት ግዙፍ ስህተት ብቻ ሳይሆን ኢትዮጵያ የባህር ኃይል ተረጋግታ ማደራጀት አትችልም ። ያ ብቻ ሳይሆን የንግድ ወደብ እንኳ በሰላም እቃ ማመላለስ አይችልም ። ስለዚህ በሞቃዲሾ አማካይነት ሱማሌ ውስጥ ምንም አይነት የባህር በር ፋይዳ ይኖረዋል ብለን ማመን የለብንም ። ላይና ታች ማመንታቱት አስወግዳ ኢትዮጵያ ከሱማሌላድ ጋር የጀመረችውን ውል ዛሬ ነገ ሳትል ፈርማ የሚከተሉትን ውስጤቶች ለመመከት ጸንታ በመቆም ብቻ ብሄራዊ ጥቅማችን ትክክለኛና ዘላቂ መሰረት ላይ መቆም የሚጀምረው! ድል ለኢትዮጵያ!

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Post by Horus » 12 Aug 2024, 11:20

ሱማሌ የሚባል አገር በሌለበት ስለ ሱማሌ ልዕልና ይህን ሁሉ ጃዝና ሲምፎኒ ምን የሚሉ ነው? በሱማሌ ውስጥ መንግስት የለም! ከማን ጋር ነው የሚደረገው? የኢትዮጵያ ሰዎች ምን ነካቸው? ሃሰን ሼክን ረስተው ግዜና ጉልበታቸው መሰረት ያለው ሪያሊቲ ላይ ማጥፋት ነው ያለባቸው ።


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Post by Horus » 12 Aug 2024, 11:32

መፍትሄው የሱማሌላንድ ድምበር ብቻ ነው!

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Post by Horus » 12 Aug 2024, 11:54

አል ሲ ሲ የተባለ ጂል በሱማሌ ረግረግ ውስጥ!


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Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 12 Aug 2024, 13:16

As if Ethiopia has a functioning government. :mrgreen:

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Post by Somaliman » 12 Aug 2024, 14:21

HORUS'S ADVICE TO ETHIOPIAN GOVERNMENT - JUST SIGN THE MOU!
Boy,

The fake MoU was already signed in public on 01/01/2024, if signing it makes any difference.

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Post by Horus » 12 Aug 2024, 14:30

Somaliman wrote:
12 Aug 2024, 14:21
HORUS'S ADVICE TO ETHIOPIAN GOVERNMENT - JUST SIGN THE MOU!
Boy,

The fake MoU was already signed in public on 01/01/2024, if signing it makes any difference.
Somaliman,

you are fighting with the wrong guy! Somaliland is an independent nation. what do you have to say about that? Remember, your legal fiction about sovereignty is meaningful only to your imagination. A somaliland republic is physical hard material reality. The Turkish neo imperialists are just learning that.

Now what do have to say about Puntland that is practically an autonomous country unto itself?

Now what do you have to say about Jubaland that just signed all kinds of treaties with UAE in a manner of and independent country?

So get off Ethiopia and tell us where this Somalian sovereignty exists - fiction, fiction, fiction !!!!

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Post by Somaliman » 12 Aug 2024, 15:03

Horus wrote:
12 Aug 2024, 14:30
Somaliman wrote:
12 Aug 2024, 14:21
HORUS'S ADVICE TO ETHIOPIAN GOVERNMENT - JUST SIGN THE MOU!
Boy,

The fake MoU was already signed in public on 01/01/2024, if signing it makes any difference.
Somaliman,

you are fighting with the wrong guy! Somaliland is an independent nation. what do you have to say about that? Remember, your legal fiction about sovereignty is meaningful only to your imagination. A somaliland republic is physical hard material reality. The Turkish neo imperialists are just learning that.

Now what do have to say about Puntland that is practically an autonomous country unto itself?

Now what do you have to say about Jubaland that just signed all kinds of treaties with UAE in a manner of and independent country?

So get off Ethiopia and tell us where this Somalian sovereignty exists - fiction, fiction, fiction !!!!


Somaliland is an independent nation.
You claim that Somaliland is an independent nation, yet you can't materialise your fake MoU, which you said was going to be turned into a binding agreement 7 months ago, and instead by desperation you're now crying to Turkey to facilitate a meeting with Somalia!


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Post by Somaliman » 12 Aug 2024, 15:18

Horus wrote:
12 Aug 2024, 14:30
Somaliman wrote:
12 Aug 2024, 14:21
HORUS'S ADVICE TO ETHIOPIAN GOVERNMENT - JUST SIGN THE MOU!
Boy,

The fake MoU was already signed in public on 01/01/2024, if signing it makes any difference.
Somaliman,

you are fighting with the wrong guy! Somaliland is an independent nation. what do you have to say about that? Remember, your legal fiction about sovereignty is meaningful only to your imagination. A somaliland republic is physical hard material reality. The Turkish neo imperialists are just learning that.

Now what do have to say about Puntland that is practically an autonomous country unto itself?

Now what do you have to say about Jubaland that just signed all kinds of treaties with UAE in a manner of and independent country?

So get off Ethiopia and tell us where this Somalian sovereignty exists - fiction, fiction, fiction !!!!





where this Somalian sovereignty exists - fiction, fiction, fiction !!!!
Even at the UN Security Council at which Somalia is a member.

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Post by Horus » 12 Aug 2024, 16:06

Somaliman,
I don't have time and patience to educate you about international politics, power dynamics, and game theory of national interest calculations. Ethiopia has not yet signed the final agreement with SLR not because she doubts SLR's right to nationhood but because of multiple and complex regional and global power dynamics. But rest assured that this matter will not go away! SLR's nationhood is only a matter of when! same with Ethiopia's status as a Red sea maritime nation!

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Post by Mesob » 12 Aug 2024, 16:21

The easiest way to weaken the involvement of the Arab Egypt and the Arab servants in the region is for Ethiopia to strengthen its relations with Somaliland and to build a long term relationship on the 50 year lease. For this to happen sooner, Ethiopia needs to bring stability at home by reforming its political structure.

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Post by Horus » 12 Aug 2024, 16:24

Mesob wrote:
12 Aug 2024, 16:21
The easiest way to weaken the involvement of the Arab Egypt and the Arab servants in the region is for Ethiopia to strengthen its relations with Somaliland and to build a long term relationship on the 50 year lease. For this to happen sooner, Ethiopia needs to bring stability at home by reforming its political structure.
Yes, Yes, indeed.


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Post by Zack » 12 Aug 2024, 18:05

If Ethiopia could or want to implement the mou they would have done it but they can’t the reasons are many Somalia with their diplomatic efforts made sure that Ethiopia had to rethink its strategy now they know they can’t mess with Somalia . Somalia is winning Ethiopia now we know u have no leverage somalia isn’t scared of ur fear tactics or blackmail we know for sure u have been weakened diplomatically so threatening us with the mou to get concession won’t work


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Post by Somaliman » 12 Aug 2024, 18:08

Horus wrote:
12 Aug 2024, 16:06
Somaliman,
I don't have time and patience to educate you about international politics, power dynamics, and game theory of national interest calculations. Ethiopia has not yet signed the final agreement with SLR not because she doubts SLR's right to nationhood but because of multiple and complex regional and global power dynamics. But rest assured that this matter will not go away! SLR's nationhood is only a matter of when! same with Ethiopia's status as a Red sea maritime nation!

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Post by Horus » 12 Aug 2024, 18:13

Zack wrote:
12 Aug 2024, 18:05
If Ethiopia could or want to implement the mou they would have done it but they can’t the reasons are many Somalia with their diplomatic efforts made sure that Ethiopia had to rethink its strategy now they know they can’t mess with Somalia . Somalia is winning Ethiopia now we know u have no leverage somalia isn’t scared of ur fear tactics or blackmail we know for sure u have been weakened diplomatically so threatening us with the mou to get concession won’t work


Dr Zackovich
Somali speaking Eritrean,
I thought you were an educated person. Dude, let us say this chess game opened in January. All the players making their moves. The game still going. On what basis are you declaring victory while you are in the middle of the game?!!! I know you can think better than this. Consider what is on the game board, not what is in your head :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Somaliman » 12 Aug 2024, 18:15

Zack wrote:
12 Aug 2024, 18:05
If Ethiopia could or want to implement the mou they would have done it but they can’t the reasons are many Somalia with their diplomatic efforts made sure that Ethiopia had to rethink its strategy now they know they can’t mess with Somalia . Somalia is winning Ethiopia now we know u have no leverage somalia isn’t scared of ur fear tactics or blackmail we know for sure u have been weakened diplomatically so threatening us with the mou to get concession won’t work


Dr Zackovich



Spot on.

They've failed to take one further step to materialise their fake MoU. All they're now doing is to bank on the same failed MoU and use it as a bargaining chip, despite the fact that it has no leverage whatsoever.

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Post by Somaliman » 12 Aug 2024, 18:28

Horus wrote:
12 Aug 2024, 18:13
Zack wrote:
12 Aug 2024, 18:05
If Ethiopia could or want to implement the mou they would have done it but they can’t the reasons are many Somalia with their diplomatic efforts made sure that Ethiopia had to rethink its strategy now they know they can’t mess with Somalia . Somalia is winning Ethiopia now we know u have no leverage somalia isn’t scared of ur fear tactics or blackmail we know for sure u have been weakened diplomatically so threatening us with the mou to get concession won’t work


Dr Zackovich
Somali speaking Eritrean,
I thought you were an educated person. Dude, let us say this chess game opened in January. All the players making their moves. The game still going. On what basis are you declaring victory while you are in the middle of the game?!!! I know you can think better than this. Consider what is on the game board, not what is in your head :lol: :lol: :lol:





When they've failed to defend their diarrhea, by desperation, all they know is to resort labelling people with another ethnicity or nationality. He has started today to call you and me Eritreans.

Horus is not going to sleep tonight, as nothing good for him has been reported from Ankara. He's even angry with the Paki today!

Hey Horus,

Somalia is not responsible if you fail to take your medications and die in your nursing home.

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Post by Horus » 12 Aug 2024, 19:00

Somaliman,
Precisely on the contrary! If you are honest to yourself, go back and read on your jokes in January. Now consider I how far we have come. Ethiopia's right to the sea is an accepted fact and every body is proposing its own algorithm to solve the problem!!

I will tell you this you never program your computer an algorithm that you can't work out by hand because then you would have no clue about what kind of solution you get from machine. You untested claim about Ethiopian inability and craziness for raising the issue is a forgotten bluff. You are still with me!!! As for me this my #1 preoccupation as far my national interest & I will stay on it until Chess comes to an end- because I know how it is going to end for I clearly know the algorithm of the game!

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Post by Wordpad » 12 Aug 2024, 19:11

Ethiopia can do NOTHING to Somalia Turkey alliance. Ethiopia doesn't have the power to invade and annex Somalia. And the fake MOU isn't leverage.

We are bringing in Egyptian military to Somalia. Ethiopia is a war torn failed state. Abiy doesn't even control Tigray and Amhara regions. He is just mayor of Mogadishu.

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