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Abere
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ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ

Post by Abere » 28 Jul 2024, 11:16

ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ የኦሮሙማ ገረድ ማፍለቂያ። ከደመቀ መኮንን- አረጋ ከበደ ሂሳቡን ስሩት።

የጎጃም ገበሬን የነጻነት ትግል እያፈነፈኑ የጀግንነት ተጋድሎውን እያረከሱ ለኦሮሙማ ቋሚ ተገራጆች በጎጃም አማራ ላይ ይጫዎቱበታል። ህሌናቸው ብር እንጅ ክብር አይገዛውም። ይህን የሚያውቀው ኦሮሙማም የተገራጁ ብ አድን ሹም የሚመለመለው ከጎጃም ነው። ጎጃም ለምን የኦሮሙማ ተገዥ ብ አደን ማምረቻ ፋብሪካ ሆነ? 1) ባህርዳር ማዕከል ስለሆነ ወይስ 2) በቀላሉ ለንዋይ እና ስልጣን የሚማልል ወይም የሚሞኝ ህዝብ ይገኝበታል?


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Re: ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ

Post by kebena05 » 28 Jul 2024, 11:55

ተብታባ ከንባታ የፒፒ ገረድ

በአንቺ ቤት አማራን ለመከፋፈል መሞከርሽ ነው :lol:
STFU!!

Abere wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 11:16
ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ የኦሮሙማ ገረድ ማፍለቂያ። ከደመቀ መኮንን- አረጋ ከበደ ሂሳቡን ስሩት።

የጎጃም ገበሬን የነጻነት ትግል እያፈነፈኑ የጀግንነት ተጋድሎውን እያረከሱ ለኦሮሙማ ቋሚ ተገራጆች በጎጃም አማራ ላይ ይጫዎቱበታል። ህሌናቸው ብር እንጅ ክብር አይገዛውም። ይህን የሚያውቀው ኦሮሙማም የተገራጁ ብ አድን ሹም የሚመለመለው ከጎጃም ነው። ጎጃም ለምን የኦሮሙማ ተገዥ ብ አደን ማምረቻ ፋብሪካ ሆነ? 1) ባህርዳር ማዕከል ስለሆነ ወይስ 2) በቀላሉ ለንዋይ እና ስልጣን የሚማልል ወይም የሚሞኝ ህዝብ ይገኝበታል?


Abere
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Re: ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ

Post by Abere » 28 Jul 2024, 12:12

ከብት kebena ዝም ብለሺ ከንባታ ከንባታ ትያለሽ። ከምባታ ይብዳሽ። ከንባታ ዩቱዩበር ደሱ እና በላይ መንገሻ ሲዘልጡሽ ነበር አስመራ :mrgreen: ቀሚስሽን አንጥፈሽ ተቀብለሻቸው። ናፈቁሽ እንደ ውል ውል አለሽ የከምባታ ዕቃ። አይገኝም የጓጓሽው እንደ ሸንኮራ አገዳ መጠው ጥለውሽ ለ ናይጄሪያ ወርውረውሻል።
Hello, Miss Nigeria. Enjoy the FUFU and be nice to his other wives .
kebena05 wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 11:55
ተብታባ ከንባታ የፒፒ ገረድ

በአንቺ ቤት አማራን ለመከፋፈል መሞከርሽ ነው :lol:
STFU!!

Abere wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 11:16
ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ የኦሮሙማ ገረድ ማፍለቂያ። ከደመቀ መኮንን- አረጋ ከበደ ሂሳቡን ስሩት።

የጎጃም ገበሬን የነጻነት ትግል እያፈነፈኑ የጀግንነት ተጋድሎውን እያረከሱ ለኦሮሙማ ቋሚ ተገራጆች በጎጃም አማራ ላይ ይጫዎቱበታል። ህሌናቸው ብር እንጅ ክብር አይገዛውም። ይህን የሚያውቀው ኦሮሙማም የተገራጁ ብ አድን ሹም የሚመለመለው ከጎጃም ነው። ጎጃም ለምን የኦሮሙማ ተገዥ ብ አደን ማምረቻ ፋብሪካ ሆነ? 1) ባህርዳር ማዕከል ስለሆነ ወይስ 2) በቀላሉ ለንዋይ እና ስልጣን የሚማልል ወይም የሚሞኝ ህዝብ ይገኝበታል?


Misraq
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Re: ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ

Post by Misraq » 28 Jul 2024, 12:25

አበረ ጋላው ፥፥

እስክንድር በዶላር የገዛው ጦቢያኒስት በሙሉ እጁን ለአማራ ፋኖ በጎጃም እየሰጠና እየተማረከ መሆኑን ዜናው እንዴት ሁሉን ቀድሞ ደረሰህ? :lol: :lol: ለሁኔታው ቅርበት ያለን ብቻ የምናውቅ መስሎን ነበር፥፥

Abere
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Re: ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ

Post by Abere » 28 Jul 2024, 12:40

አንቺ የሻዕብያ ሴት ውሻ ምን ቡፍ! ቡፍ! አደረገሽ - ምኞት አይከለከልም ተፈጥሮአዊ መብትሽ ነው።

ሻዕብያዎች ፈጥሮ ማውራት፤ መቀደድ፤ መጮህ ተፈጥሯችሁ ነው። ጣልያን ስልጣኔ ሳይሆን ያስተማራችሁ ጩኸት ነው። ምናልባት ብስክሊት መጋለብ እና ወሬ ማዳረስ። ምነው ነጭ ገዝቷችሁ በነበረ (ዕድለ-ቢስ) - በአውሮፓ እንደ ፈረንጅ የማይቆጠር ሰገጤ ያልሰለጠነ ተብሎ የሚወሰድ ጣልያን ነው።

ኩሊነት ያሰማራችሁት ዱርዬ ጎጃም ውስጥ ካለ የራሳችሁ እራስ ምታት ነው። ጦርነቱ ከፋኖ ጋር ሳይሆን ጦርነቱ ከኦሮሙማ-ኦነግ እና ወያኔ ጋር ነው። ፋኖን ኩሊ እዋጋለሁ ካለ ሂሳቡ በጊዜ ይከፈለዋል። :mrgreen:

አስገንጣይ misraq እንደ አንች ህልም

ዐባይ ወዲያ ማዶ -ዘመድ አለኝ ማለት
ዋ! ብሎ መቅረት ነው ውሃ የሞላለት።


እንድባል ነው። :mrgreen: የሚሆን አይደለም። ጎጃም ይገንጠልልን የሚል የሻዕብያ፤ የኦነግ እና የወያኔ ህልም ነው።
Misraq wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 12:25
አበረ ጋላው ፥፥

እስክንድር በዶላር የገዛው ጦቢያኒስት በሙሉ እጁን ለአማራ ፋኖ በጎጃም እየሰጠና እየተማረከ መሆኑን ዜናው እንዴት ሁሉን ቀድሞ ደረሰህ? :lol: :lol: ለሁኔታው ቅርበት ያለን ብቻ የምናውቅ መስሎን ነበር፥፥

Misraq
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Re: ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ

Post by Misraq » 28 Jul 2024, 12:48

አበረ ጋላው

ነጋ የሚለው ስም ለአማራ አይጠቅምም እያለ ነው ሕዝቡ፥፥




ወታደሮችህ ስለተማረኩ ነው ጎጃም ላይ ያቀረሸሀው


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Re: ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ

Post by Dama » 28 Jul 2024, 12:49

Abere wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 12:12
ከብት kebena ዝም ብለሺ ከንባታ ከንባታ ትያለሽ። ከምባታ ይብዳሽ። ከንባታ ዩቱዩበር ደሱ እና በላይ መንገሻ ሲዘልጡሽ ነበር አስመራ :mrgreen: ቀሚስሽን አንጥፈሽ ተቀብለሻቸው። ናፈቁሽ እንደ ውል ውል አለሽ የከምባታ ዕቃ። አይገኝም የጓጓሽው እንደ ሸንኮራ አገዳ መጠው ጥለውሽ ለ ናይጄሪያ ወርውረውሻል።
Hello, Miss Nigeria. Enjoy the FUFU and be nice to his other wives .
kebena05 wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 11:55
ተብታባ ከንባታ የፒፒ ገረድ

በአንቺ ቤት አማራን ለመከፋፈል መሞከርሽ ነው :lol:
STFU!!

Abere wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 11:16
ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ የኦሮሙማ ገረድ ማፍለቂያ። ከደመቀ መኮንን- አረጋ ከበደ ሂሳቡን ስሩት።

የጎጃም ገበሬን የነጻነት ትግል እያፈነፈኑ የጀግንነት ተጋድሎውን እያረከሱ ለኦሮሙማ ቋሚ ተገራጆች በጎጃም አማራ ላይ ይጫዎቱበታል። ህሌናቸው ብር እንጅ ክብር አይገዛውም። ይህን የሚያውቀው ኦሮሙማም የተገራጁ ብ አድን ሹም የሚመለመለው ከጎጃም ነው። ጎጃም ለምን የኦሮሙማ ተገዥ ብ አደን ማምረቻ ፋብሪካ ሆነ? 1) ባህርዳር ማዕከል ስለሆነ ወይስ 2) በቀላሉ ለንዋይ እና ስልጣን የሚማልል ወይም የሚሞኝ ህዝብ ይገኝበታል?

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ

Post by Abere » 28 Jul 2024, 12:59

ሻዕብያ b!cth,misraq, ፀረ-እስክንድር ነጋ መሆንሽን ለመደስኮር ነው - ይህ ሁሉ የሆሂያት ድርደራ? የሻዕብያ/ወያኔ ጠጠር ጣይ ኮኮብ ቆጣሪነሽ። በቆጠርሽ ቁጥር ብር ይቆጠርልሻል ማለት ነው።የወያኔ/ሻዕብያ ኮኮብ ስትቆጥሪ ሆሂያት ሳይሆን እውነትን የገደፍሽ መሆኑን ደግሞ በደንብ ማወቅ አለብሽ

እስክንድርን ለማሸነፍ የፈለገ በሀሳብ መሞገት ይችላል። የብዕር ሰው ነው፤ መሞገት የሚችል ይመስለኛል። የጦር ሜዳ ሰውም ነው። ትግል ሜዳ በገባ በአንድ ወር ነው ብአደን ገረድን ከአማራ ክልል ከተማዎች ጠራርጎ ያባረራቸው። ቅናት፤ ምቀኝነት፤ አሉቧልታ የሰነፎች እና የሴረኞች፤ የሳንቲም ለቃሚ ዱርዬዎች፤ የጸረ-አማራዎች መገለጫ ባህርይ ነው። እስክንድርን ከማጥቃት ለምን ኦሮሙማ-ኦነግን አታጠቂም? ያማ ይከፍልሻል- ጥላትሽ አማራ ነዋ።


ንጹህ ህሌና እና ንጹህ ሰው ከሆንሽ አንች ኢትዮጵያዊ ጉዳይ ውስጥ አማራ ሁነሽ ምን አመጣሽ? አንቺ የኤርትራ ሴት ነሽ። አማራ አማራ ልሽተት ብለሽ መከራሽን በላሽ - ግን ሻዕብያ ሻዕብያ ነው የምትቆንሽው። ቁናሳም ሻዕብያ።

Misraq wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 12:48
አበረ ጋላው

ነጋ የሚለው ስም ለአማራ አይጠቅምም እያለ ነው ሕዝቡ፥፥



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Post by Abere » 28 Jul 2024, 13:08

ሻዕብያ b!tch, misraq

የውሸት ጡሩምባ ፕሮፓጋንዳሽን ንዥ ብቻ - በጎጃም ፋኖ ላይ ኪሳራ እየሰራሽ።


እውነቱ ግን ጎጃም ብቻውን " እንደ አዋሽ ወንዝ እዛው ፈሶ እዛው ረግቶ ሰጥሞ ይቀራል"።

የትግሉ ጅረት ማዕበል ሁኖ ሊፈስ የሚችለው ጎጃም ከወሎ ፤ ሸዋ እና ጎንደር ጋር ሲያብር ብቻ ነው። ይህ የሰፈር ድንፋታ የሰፈር ውስጥ ለውስጥ የቦይ ጎርፍ ነው። እንደ አንቺ የሚያስብ ፋኖ ጎጅም ውስጥ ሊኖር አይችልም - ያ ፋኖ ሳይሆን ብአድን ነው

Misraq wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 12:48
አበረ ጋላው

ወታደሮችህ ስለተማረኩ ነው ጎጃም ላይ ያቀረሸሀው



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Re: ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ

Post by kebena05 » 28 Jul 2024, 13:14

አበራሽ እበቴ የፒፒ ወሸላ ጠቢ ከንባታው:lol:

አለቃሽ DDT ላንቺና ለዛ ለለሃጫም ሽማግሌው ጉራጌ condominium ቃል ገባላቹህ መሰለኝ የፒፒን ጀላ ካልጠባሁ እያላችሁ ትሻማላቹሁ ያላችሁት። እናንተ አናሳ ጎሳዎች ለመጣ ባለግዜ ለአማራ ፣ለትግሬና አሁን ደግሞ ለኦሮሞ ማፈንደድ አመላቹህ ነው።

እዛ ሳሕል እያለሽ የደርግ ወታደር ምርኮኛ ሆነሽ አባ ዱላ ጋር እሱ ሌትከቀን ሳያገላብጥሽ አልቀረም ፤ ለፒፒ ፍቅር የያዘሽ ከዛንግዜ ጀምሮ ሳይሆን አይቀርም። I am sure, if devil takes power in your [deleted]$thole country, you would give your aids ridden a’ss to him too :lol: :lol:




Abere wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 12:12
ከብት kebena ዝም ብለሺ ከንባታ ከንባታ ትያለሽ። ከምባታ ይብዳሽ። ከንባታ ዩቱዩበር ደሱ እና በላይ መንገሻ ሲዘልጡሽ ነበር አስመራ :mrgreen: ቀሚስሽን አንጥፈሽ ተቀብለሻቸው። ናፈቁሽ እንደ ውል ውል አለሽ የከምባታ ዕቃ። አይገኝም የጓጓሽው እንደ ሸንኮራ አገዳ መጠው ጥለውሽ ለ ናይጄሪያ ወርውረውሻል።
Hello, Miss Nigeria. Enjoy the FUFU and be nice to his other wives .
kebena05 wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 11:55
ተብታባ ከንባታ የፒፒ ገረድ

በአንቺ ቤት አማራን ለመከፋፈል መሞከርሽ ነው :lol:
STFU!!

Abere wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 11:16
ጎጃም እህል እንጅ እንደት ብአድን ይበቅልበታል? በግምት 50%-60% ብአድን ገረድ የሚመረትበት ጎጅም ነው። ሰብል ማምረት ሳይሆን የአማራ ህዝብ የስቃይ ማምረቻ የትግል ማነቆ የኦሮሙማ ገረድ ማፍለቂያ። ከደመቀ መኮንን- አረጋ ከበደ ሂሳቡን ስሩት።

የጎጃም ገበሬን የነጻነት ትግል እያፈነፈኑ የጀግንነት ተጋድሎውን እያረከሱ ለኦሮሙማ ቋሚ ተገራጆች በጎጃም አማራ ላይ ይጫዎቱበታል። ህሌናቸው ብር እንጅ ክብር አይገዛውም። ይህን የሚያውቀው ኦሮሙማም የተገራጁ ብ አድን ሹም የሚመለመለው ከጎጃም ነው። ጎጃም ለምን የኦሮሙማ ተገዥ ብ አደን ማምረቻ ፋብሪካ ሆነ? 1) ባህርዳር ማዕከል ስለሆነ ወይስ 2) በቀላሉ ለንዋይ እና ስልጣን የሚማልል ወይም የሚሞኝ ህዝብ ይገኝበታል?


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Post by Right » 28 Jul 2024, 13:27

It doesn’t really matter, this is a divide and rule tactic. Individual opportunists are everywhere and they don’t represent society but themselves. So deliberately blaming the region they come from is desperate efforts to divide. Because the water fountains and the bright lights in the corridor development are not helping PP.

From what I heard Gedu Andargachew, DEMEKE Mekonen, Agegnuh Teshager both of them a long time lieutenants of PP are not from Gojjam. DEMEKE Mekonen a Muslim by religion traces his origin in Arsi from the Oromo parents.
Try something else.

Probably PP having trouble to control Gojjam and Shoa are sending cadres to divide the Amharas.

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Post by Abere » 28 Jul 2024, 14:09

This has Zero correlation with dividing people. This is how the ብአደን distribution looks like on the ground. This is not what Abare alone is saying (people for fear of being censured do not say it out loud). But everyone knows Gojam takes the lion's share for being a recruit ground for being ብአደን ገረድነት. መኸሩ የበዛበትን ቦታ መጠቆም እንደ ሃጥያት የሚቆጠረው እንደ ፈሪሳዊያን ከሚንጎባለሉ ግብዝ ጸረ-አማራዎች ሰፈር ብቻ። In time of critical moments like this one, mentioning the most feeder region to ብአደን ገረድ is take brutal honesty. This is not at all blaming the innocent Gojam farmers who day-in-day out fighting their home grown ብአደን ገረድ, but just bringing to light the harvest and field work is massive in Gojam. Someone who denies this brutal fact is not sincere enough or wanted to play safe the dirty political correctness of for the sake of pleasing everyone. If talking truth does not save truth, how can a pile of lie, deceit and faking reality. Yes, once again, Gojam is the hub of ብአደን.

Right wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 13:27
It doesn’t really matter, this is a divide and rule tactic. Individual opportunists are everywhere and they don’t represent society but themselves. So deliberately blaming the region they come from is desperate efforts to divide. Because the water fountains and the bright lights in the corridor development are not helping PP.

From what I heard Gedu Andargachew, DEMEKE Mekonen, Agegnuh Teshager both of them a long time lieutenants of PP are not from Gojjam. DEMEKE Mekonen a Muslim by religion traces his origin in Arsi from the Oromo parents.
Try something else.

Probably PP having trouble to control Gojjam and Shoa are sending cadres to divide the Amharas.

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Post by Right » 28 Jul 2024, 15:28

Brother Abere,
So what is your point? Invade Gojjam? PP has already done that. Bomb them with drone? PP and ANDM have already done that. You may have to come up with a miracle to defeat Gojjam. The Gojjam people are fighting the PP army for almost one year. At some point 60% of the PP army was in Gojjam killing people and burning farms. Gojjam is fighting not only the PP army but the Bandas as well. Why on earth Gojjam has to be responsible for what Gedu Andargachew or DEMEKE Mekonen did?
Find something else to do. I have no idea why Regions are blamed for what individuals do.
Before it was Wello with no fighting ability despite the people did what they can. Now, when the PP infiltration through Eskinder is beaten by Gojjam they are coming with this [deleted].

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Post by Misraq » 28 Jul 2024, 15:35

Right wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 15:28
Brother Abere,
So what is your point? Invade Gojjam? PP has already done that. Bomb them with drone? PP and ANDM have already done that. You may have to come up with a miracle to defeat Gojjam. The Gojjam people are fighting the PP army for almost one year. At some point 60% of the PP army was in Gojjam killing people and burning farms. Gojjam is fighting not only the PP army but the Bandas as well. Why on earth Gojjam has to be responsible for what Gedu Andargachew or DEMEKE Mekonen did?
Find something else to do. I have no idea why Regions are blamed for what individuals do.
Before it was Wello with no fighting ability despite the people did what they can. Now, when the PP infiltration through Eskinder is beaten by Gojjam they are coming with this [deleted].

Brother Right,

You are conversing with the tulama Oromo ex derg soldier by the name of Abere. Nothing wrong with his ethnicity so log us he is not participating on Amhara genocide. He was cheering Abiy Ahmeds corridor and yechaka betemengist. He was cheering PP while at the same time taking part in Eskinders Balderas cameoflaged as Fano. You should not underestimate this Tulama Galas.

They tricked TPLF all along sounding loyal servants while at the same time spreading OLF ideology and organizing Qeerroo. Do you think they will be fool enough to ignore what is going on in Amhara? Why are the so focused on the hot bed of the Amhara resistance i.e Gojjam & Shoa than Wollo and Gondar? Also, Gojjam and Shoa is a frontier adjacent to their current region and it is natural to disturb what is going on there by any means. They are using the same tactic they used on TPLF with a slight modifications.

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Post by Abere » 28 Jul 2024, 16:31

Brother Right,

I would like to repeat my self again, emphatically I have not blamed Gojam people at all. I merely pointed out Gojam has been used as recruitment of Be'Aden - this does not take away anything from the fact that Gojam people are fighting tooth and nail, to freeup themselves. That itself speaks volume. Please note that Demeke Mekonnen is from Gojam; and he is born of an Amhara mother and Amhara father. That is true his parents are originally from Wolo, Koreb/Maqdella - typcally from part of Amhara Saint. Anyone who knows Wolo knows part of Saint falls in Amhara Saint and Part in Meqdella. If Demeke cannot be Amhara, no one can be Amhara. He could be by tribe Amhara but by spirit just like Temesgen Tiruneh, Yilika Kefyale, Arega Kebede, etc. is Ge'red Be'Aden.

Wondering where you pulled of the blame for Eskindir. Why did you rush to blame Eskindir? Do you have any evidence to blame for that. No body will trust your allegation. People will bet on him for being very honest, principled than Zemene Kassie. What is the test for that. I guess, I am kind of seeing some kind of regionalization. May be Eskidnir is not from Gojam ( from some zealots). Anyway, time will tell. I know none of these people - but my gut 100% trust Eskindir than Zemene - there is something fishy out there.



Right wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 15:28
Brother Abere,
So what is your point? Invade Gojjam? PP has already done that. Bomb them with drone? PP and ANDM have already done that. You may have to come up with a miracle to defeat Gojjam. The Gojjam people are fighting the PP army for almost one year. At some point 60% of the PP army was in Gojjam killing people and burning farms. Gojjam is fighting not only the PP army but the Bandas as well. Why on earth Gojjam has to be responsible for what Gedu Andargachew or DEMEKE Mekonen did?
Find something else to do. I have no idea why Regions are blamed for what individuals do.
Before it was Wello with no fighting ability despite the people did what they can. Now, when the PP infiltration through Eskinder is beaten by Gojjam they are coming with this [deleted].

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Post by Right » 28 Jul 2024, 18:51

Brother Abere,
I have no a clue about DEMEKE Mekonen. Noted that he is an Amhara. But he is a devilish opportunist, so is Gedu. They don’t represent people, they only stand for their belly.
To the substance:
1) I don’t know much about Zemene Kase except that he has been through a lot fighting the government. He maybe a good or a bad guy that is for his followers to decide. But you can’t blame the entire Gojjam because of him just like you cannot blame the entire Wollo because of Lidetu. That is a very dangerous politics. I am glad you made that clear. What Wedi and you have been saying on another thread wasn’t that good. Just leave the people out of politics. They are already bleeding on the ground from Abiye Ahmed’s drone.

2.) I have said time and again in this forum Eskinder is a good guy, but I am not sure now. In this homegrown resistance you have to be careful no to force yourself to be in charge. You don’t have to be in charge to help. Why would he create a Fano branch in Gojjam and Shoa without the consent of other leaders in the area? Besides why he didn’t withdraw his assertive leadership role if he is the reason for division? And then where is his Balderas? There are a lot of questions to be asked. At least he would have come out and calm the situation instead of cyber commanding with Habtamu Ayalew and Ermias Legesse inflaming further division. All we have to do is use common sense. Something is not right with Eskinder Nega.

3) we have a very good experience from the 2005 Kinijit crisis. Name calling, accusations and finger pointing left a lot of people dead and was an instrument for the dawn fall of Kinjit. For the coronation of Birtukan Medkisa and Beranu Nega at any cost the whole resistance was thrown under the bus.
My way or the highway. You can’t force Eskinder Nega on the top of the ladder, because that is what you, Habtamu Ayalew or anybody wish for. That will throw the resistance under the bus.
Take a deep breath, regroup and resolve the issue. Don’t underestimate local commanders, without them there is no resistance. They are sensitive because they have been through a lot.

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Post by Abere » 28 Jul 2024, 22:12

Brother Right,

____You are absolutely right, individual personalities do not equate for the community they came from. Honestly, I did not speak of anything bad about the broad mass of Gojam in Wedi's threat either. I would stand corrected if blamed the broad mass of Gojam.

____ If I happened to read my comments about this whole Fano leadership election, I said the time has not ripen yet. Putting Fano under one military command would make it an easy feast for Orommuma for it effortless would get everything in one basket - because there is a high possibility to use mercenaries. It is not a public secrete, there has been paid Be'Aden Fano. I strongly believe Fano has an indivisible purpose. United in purpose and mission, regardless of the presence/absence of central command is always united. Amhara's demand and issues are very articulated and are bold present in the minds of all Amhara, including Amhara's enemy.

____ Having said that I never said either Zemene or Eskindir should lead Fano. We heard the news Majority Fano elected Eskindir. The presence of dissents especially at this stage is not unexpected. However, given the freedom longing people of Amhara people both sides should have stopped being vocal - instead of busy in smear campaign they should iron out their differences and broaden their mass.

____ To me it is not the conflict of purpose among Fano, it is the conflict of money making YouTubers. YouTubers are spinning the conflict as if they did great job for Amhara people.

____ Also, it is important to learn how to deal differences; the world is not an ideal place. Differences are assets if used properly - they can be harnessed to find middle ground. However, so called money making activists are restless.

___ Like you said, individuals do not represent community; both the Fano Martyrs and General Abebaw Tadesse came from Gojam. Anyone can feel guilt to equate the Broad Mass of Gojam with the genocidal thug Ge'red General Abebaw Tadesse.


Right wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 18:51
Brother Abere,
I have no a clue about DEMEKE Mekonen. Noted that he is an Amhara. But he is a devilish opportunist, so is Gedu. They don’t represent people, they only stand for their belly.
To the substance:
1) I don’t know much about Zemene Kase except that he has been through a lot fighting the government. He maybe a good or a bad guy that is for his followers to decide. But you can’t blame the entire Gojjam because of him just like you cannot blame the entire Wollo because of Lidetu. That is a very dangerous politics. I am glad you made that clear. What Wedi and you have been saying on another thread wasn’t that good. Just leave the people out of politics. They are already bleeding on the ground from Abiye Ahmed’s drone.

2.) I have said time and again in this forum Eskinder is a good guy, but I am not sure now. In this homegrown resistance you have to be careful no to force yourself to be in charge. You don’t have to be in charge to help. Why would he create a Fano branch in Gojjam and Shoa without the consent of other leaders in the area? Besides why he didn’t withdraw his assertive leadership role if he is the reason for division? And then where is his Balderas? There are a lot of questions to be asked. At least he would have come out and calm the situation instead of cyber commanding with Habtamu Ayalew and Ermias Legesse inflaming further division. All we have to do is use common sense. Something is not right with Eskinder Nega.

3) we have a very good experience from the 2005 Kinijit crisis. Name calling, accusations and finger pointing left a lot of people dead and was an instrument for the dawn fall of Kinjit. For the coronation of Birtukan Medkisa and Beranu Nega at any cost the whole resistance was thrown under the bus.
My way or the highway. You can’t force Eskinder Nega on the top of the ladder, because that is what you, Habtamu Ayalew or anybody wish for. That will throw the resistance under the bus.
Take a deep breath, regroup and resolve the issue. Don’t underestimate local commanders, without them there is no resistance. They are sensitive because they have been through a lot.

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Post by Misraq » 29 Jul 2024, 00:45

Brother Abere Galaw

Dollar Ez is on the run. Luetenant Getahun chose to give his hand to Oromuma, Wegderes is captured. Next is Tanashu Eskender




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Post by Right » 29 Jul 2024, 10:09

General Abebaw Tadesse came from Gojam.
Brother Abere,
How do you know from where General Abebaw Taddesse came from? Do you have the origins of the list of career generals in the ENDF?
It can only be two things: either an inferiority complex and hatred has developed among regional Amharas or there is an agenda.
What this indicates is that selective Diaspora Ethiopians are egoistic and dangerous. I am afraid it will be a bad influence on the Ethiopian youth. EPRP all over again.

Look, some of the notorious individuals like Belete Mola, Lidetu Ayalew,Gedu Andargachew, DEMEKE Mekonen etc did a terrible thing on the Amhara people, but no body went after the region where they come from. Instead people condemned their attitude and dropped them like a hot potato.
I will repeat you can’t put Eskinder Nega as a top dog through intimidation. He has to earn it. The current crisis shows he doesn’t have it. Move on but don’t try to force it.
You and me are keyboard warriors. The real fighter on the ground are precious.

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Post by Abere » 29 Jul 2024, 11:02

Brother Right,

I never said Eskindir Nega should be the leader of Fano. I neither oppose he being Majority Fano leader. The same for Zemene. But, it is wondering me why you take my comments out of context while I emphatically stated the same position.

You said you did not know G/Abebaw Tadesse (ጠብዴል ብአድን ገረድ) is from Gojam :mrgreen: Let alone someone like you, even the birds of Gojam very well know him. If you cannot believe me and still have curiosity, Ghion Media entrepreneur, Minalachew Simachew or writer Achamyeleh Tamiru could be your authentic source of information :mrgreen:


Right wrote:
29 Jul 2024, 10:09
General Abebaw Tadesse came from Gojam.
Brother Abere,
How do you know from where General Abebaw Taddesse came from? Do you have the origins of the list of career generals in the ENDF?
It can only be two things: either an inferiority complex and hatred has developed among regional Amharas or there is an agenda.
What this indicates is that selective Diaspora Ethiopians are egoistic and dangerous. I am afraid it will be a bad influence on the Ethiopian youth. EPRP all over again.

Look, some of the notorious individuals like Belete Mola, Lidetu Ayalew,Gedu Andargachew, DEMEKE Mekonen etc did a terrible thing on the Amhara people, but no body went after the region where they come from. Instead people condemned their attitude and dropped them like a hot potato.
I will repeat you can’t put Eskinder Nega as a top dog through intimidation. He has to earn it. The current crisis shows he doesn’t have it. Move on but don’t try to force it.
You and me are keyboard warriors. The real fighter on the ground are precious.

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