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Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by Educator » 23 Jul 2024, 17:20

How on earth these two individuals bring their quarrel out in the public while they have achieved nothing yet? They are not even members of same group. They haven't liberated the Amhara capital, Bahirdar, yet. They are still roaming the countryside hiding from the lousy ENDF. While tripping each other, the Amhara's suffering will prolong and the longevity of satan Mamo Killo will be extended, even though as a mayor of Addis Ababa.

Do they know they have bruised the hope of millions of Addis Abebes and other non-Amhara population? At least the Amharas in Amhara region are politically liberated to the most part from the PP demons. But the people in the rest of the country especially minorities are both politically and economically deprived of the basic human rights.
Pray for Ethiopian population, excluding the wutaf nekais and cadres of satan Mamo Killo.

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by TGAA » 23 Jul 2024, 18:38

Although the whole argument is presented differently, the core issue presented is simple it is the claim to protect Amharanet from Ethiopianists. This is what Eskendr is currently accused of. In his latest statements, Zemen has grouped Eskendr with Abiy and Shimiles and condemned them similarly.
So far, aside from labeling each other, they have not yet presented any strategic differences between their camps. Another sad aspect is the involvement of cheerleaders in dirty laundering busness. Amharas don't have a monolithic ideology, but when it comes to their struggle for survival, they must secure it by arms. If both sides could focus on that instead of engaging in uncalled-for smear campaigns, people would appreciate it. If they continue this way, however, it will be a gift to Abiy and Shimiles, two individuals who have washed their hands with Amhara blood. That is the worst kind of betrayal to Amhara people who have suffered under government sponsored ethnic cleansing ever in Ethiopian history.
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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by Tiago » 23 Jul 2024, 19:15

Eskindir Nega is perusing his personal ambition.
If he really cares about the Amhara struggle ,he would have steered clear of FANO and allow them to liberate the Amhara people first.
He is simply a spoiler.

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by Misraq » 23 Jul 2024, 20:30

Brother Educator and Tiago,

Don't be overwhelmed by the social media trends. PP's 150k social media actors are busy taking three different roles in a hope that Fanos divide and anhillate each other. PP knows that they can't quell Amharas through military means with the current standing and they wanted to soften the resistance by agitating and disheartening Fano supporters.

Former G7-Ezema supporters who were Wutaf Neqays for Abiy are all busy on social media wearing the Amhara hut and supporting Eskinder. Their hope is that Amhara nationalism will be converted to Ethiopian nationalism through Eskinder. They thought they would fool Abiy OPDO but he fooled them. These guys are now attempting their bid in Amhara through Eskinder. You would know them when the rain insults and attacks on Gojjam Fanos and Zemene Kassse.

As to Eskinder, he is a dead man walking. trust me, he will be out of commission. The snake is now known by many. His diaspora enablers like Habtamu Ayalew are also identified and the coming few months they will be history. If you are interested to know on what happened, all you have to listen is Mereja Tvs audio record about the conference where all major Fano leaders pulled out of the meeting stating Eskinder cannot qualify as a candidate because he doesn't command huge or regional force. So, the meeting ended just when they proposed candidates. Ermias Legesse was behind Eskinder and they used the old used technic to break the news of eskinder election through their medias to confuse people. All Zemene and the rest did was react to it which is natural. So blaming Zemene for this is silly. The rejection of these also comes from Mere Wedajo and Gondar Fano leader Baye.

All fake news Eskinder and Co created was refuted and it was amazing to see on how they went to this length

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by Fed_Up » 23 Jul 2024, 20:41

Misraq wrote:
23 Jul 2024, 20:30
የማያልቀው እትትትርርርርርርር ዘራፌዋ!! አትንዠርዠር ገብተህ ተዋጋ እምሳም ነገር:: በኮምፒዪተር ተደብቆ ማቅራራት ምን ... አማራ ነኝ ለማለት ነው? ቅንዳሻም አጋሜ:: at least እስክንድ ታጥቆ ገብቶ እየወንድነት ሰር እየሰራ ነው:: አንተ የሱ ጫማ ጠራጊ የመሆን ብቃት የለህም:
ቅጫማም ፈስ

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by Misraq » 23 Jul 2024, 20:56

Fendadaw.....live this thread for the big boys and meet me on this thread viewtopic.php?f=2&t=346876

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by Fed_Up » 23 Jul 2024, 20:59

Misraq wrote:
23 Jul 2024, 20:56
ቀረርቶዋም እምሶዬ
ነገርኩሽ እኮ የአንቺ ዘራፌዋ ፈሳም ወሎዬ መረጃ ጀርባ ላይ ተደብቀሽ ወሬ አሉባልታ ቂጥና እምስ ቆጠራ.. እምስ ብርቁ (መልከጥፋ ሳትሆን አትቀርም እምስ እንዲህ ያረረብህ) ከማቅራራት ያለፈ ወንድነት የለሽም:: የእስክንድር ጫማ አጣቢ የመሆን ብቃቱም የለህም:: ጥሩም ይሰራ መጥፎ እሱ ወንድ ነው!! አራት ነጥብ...

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by Misraq » 23 Jul 2024, 21:30

እህትህ ፊንጢጣዋ እስኪገለበጥ ጃማይካ እየበዳት ነው፥፥ አንተ እዚህ ፖለቲካ ታወራለህ፥፥ ደካማ skunnni :lol: :lol:

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Post by eden » 23 Jul 2024, 22:34

really sad to witness a regime as stupid as this prevail against fano considering how popular fano is everywhere and considering the readiness of the youth to pay the ultimate price.

fano is vulnerable because it isn’t dealing with issue number one: struggle like the liberation fronts (nationality) or as united under Ethiopia. The regime is easily able to see this dichotomy and widen the wedge.

eplf/ tplf “succeed” because they first secured their position as the sole representatives by destroying jebha/ edu. fano doesn’t have to destroy one another violently but it needs to find a way to resolve its ideological divide. This problem started when folks like Iskinder (Ethiopia first) were embraced upon joining the (Amara first) struggle.

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by Union » 23 Jul 2024, 22:47

Brother Misraq

ምን አድርገኸ ነው ፈንዳዳውን እንደዚህ ያሳበድከው። ጨርቁን ጣለኮ :lol:
Misraq wrote:
23 Jul 2024, 20:56
Fendadaw.....live this thread for the big boys and meet me on this thread viewtopic.php?f=2&t=346876

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by Fed_Up » 23 Jul 2024, 22:54

Misraq wrote:
23 Jul 2024, 21:30
[
አንተን ዝርፍጡ ተቀምጦ ቀላማጁን ወንድ ነኝ ባዩ እምሳም ያለገላጋይ ጋላ አስፈንዶ ቤትህ ድረስ መጥቶ ዘራፌዋ እያዘፈነ ማንቅርትህን ይዞ እየነቀነቀህ:: የጋላ ግርፍ ሽንታም ለሃጫም:: አንተ የእስክንድርን ጫማ ማሰር ብቃቱም የለህም:: ዘራፌዋ ፊት::

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by eden » 23 Jul 2024, 22:58

ጫማ ማሰር ብቃቱም የለህም
lol

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by TGAA » 23 Jul 2024, 23:03

Misraq wrote:
23 Jul 2024, 20:30
Brother Educator and Tiago,

Don't be overwhelmed by the social media trends. PP's 150k social media actors are busy taking three different roles in a hope that Fanos divide and anhillate each other. PP knows that they can't quell Amharas through military means with the current standing and they wanted to soften the resistance by agitating and disheartening Fano supporters.

Former G7-Ezema supporters who were Wutaf Neqays for Abiy are all busy on social media wearing the Amhara hut and supporting Eskinder. Their hope is that Amhara nationalism will be converted to Ethiopian nationalism through Eskinder. They thought they would fool Abiy OPDO but he fooled them. These guys are now attempting their bid in Amhara through Eskinder. You would know them when the rain insults and attacks on Gojjam Fanos and Zemene Kassse.

As to Eskinder, he is a dead man walking. trust me, he will be out of commission. The snake is now known by many. His diaspora enablers like Habtamu Ayalew are also identified and the coming few months they will be history. If you are interested to know on what happened, all you have to listen is Mereja Tvs audio record about the conference where all major Fano leaders pulled out of the meeting stating Eskinder cannot qualify as a candidate because he doesn't command huge or regional force. So, the meeting ended just when they proposed candidates. Ermias Legesse was behind Eskinder and they used the old used technic to break the news of eskinder election through their medias to confuse people. All Zemene and the rest did was react to it which is natural. So blaming Zemene for this is silly. The rejection of these also comes from Mere Wedajo and Gondar Fano leader Baye.

All fake news Eskinder and Co created was refuted and it was amazing to see on how they went to this length
As for Eskinder, he is a dead man walking. Trust me, he will be out of commission. The snake is now known by many. Are you calling for his assassination? It seems so.

This overdrive to attack Ethiopianists of every hue will have consequences for the Amhara struggle. Eskinder is not a latecomer in the Ethiopian struggle; his actions, whether good or bad, are a matter of public record. Being involved in the struggle, he may have made some mistakes, but he also made the right moves. You cannot cherry-pick and paint whatever picture you want. If you don't want anyone with an Ethiopianist agenda to get involved, an agenda that serves as a bridge with other Ethiopians, then Fanos need to come to terms with this in a timely fashion and make it public.

If there is a sector of Ethiopian society that has a favorable view of the Amhara struggle, it is the Ethiopianist camp. This support is not for the reasons some might contrive to think. However, if the so-called Amharanist activists continue to attack Ethiopianists savagely because of their views, it would be no less than making an enemy out of a friend. Don’t confuse individual actors with the broader Ethiopianist camp that is in the wings. A decisive shift of this camp could have a determining factor in the end.

If all Fanos decided to reject Eskinder unanimously, there wouldn't have been any controversy. That would have been the end of it. If Eskinder is the one and only reason for division, he needs to step aside for the sake of the struggle. What is worrying is the underlying politics that is the visceral cause of the campaign driving this division: the anti-Ethiopian sentiment that taking roots .

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by Misraq » 24 Jul 2024, 00:08

TGAA wrote:
23 Jul 2024, 23:03
As for Eskinder, he is a dead man walking. Trust me, he will be out of commission. The snake is now known by many. Are you calling for his assassination? It seems so.

This overdrive to attack Ethiopianists of every hue will have consequences for the Amhara struggle. Eskinder is not a latecomer in the Ethiopian struggle; his actions, whether good or bad, are a matter of public record. Being involved in the struggle, he may have made some mistakes, but he also made the right moves. You cannot cherry-pick and paint whatever picture you want. If you don't want anyone with an Ethiopianist agenda to get involved, an agenda that serves as a bridge with other Ethiopians, then Fanos need to come to terms with this in a timely fashion and make it public.

If there is a sector of Ethiopian society that has a favorable view of the Amhara struggle, it is the Ethiopianist camp. This support is not for the reasons some might contrive to think. However, if the so-called Amharanist activists continue to attack Ethiopianists savagely because of their views, it would be no less than making an enemy out of a friend. Don’t confuse individual actors with the broader Ethiopianist camp that is in the wings. A decisive shift of this camp could have a determining factor in the end.

If all Fanos decided to reject Eskinder unanimously, there wouldn't have been any controversy. That would have been the end of it. If Eskinder is the one and only reason for division, he needs to step aside for the sake of the struggle. What is worrying is the underlying politics that is the visceral cause of the campaign driving this division: the anti-Ethiopian sentiment that taking roots .
I beg to differ. Ethiopianist is the weakest element in Ethiopian politics. It is been beaten beyound repair by EPLF/TPLF and now OLF. It is an ideology synonym to defeat and retreat. Ethiopianist is known for shouting in the western streets for the white man to save it from rag-tag militias of TPLF. Ethiopianist ideology wants to be saved by Amharas not vise-versa. The attempt of Eskinder and his Ginbote associates is to ressuract this dead ideology using the blood of Amhara through clever ways and medias. Ethiopianists entered in Addis 7 years ago hoping to fool the young Abiy Amhmed the butcher. Instead abiy outperformed, used them and threw them to the trash bin simply by using their favourite word such as Ethiopiachin, ስንሞት ኢትዮጵይ ስንኖር ኢትዮጵያ፥ ኢትዮጵያ ሱሴ....etc. Ethiopianists are idiot gullibles with zero knowledge of politics. They have that disgusting mantra that says አንድ ነን:: Only the weak say አንድ ነን and plead.

Ethiopianist sees Amhara as its enemy. This gullible group is OK with every ethnic nationalism except Amhara nationalism. It knows it won't survive if Amhara nationalism spreads. In a hope to twart that, Ethiopianists deny the very existance of Amhara as people. Ethiopianist preps the genocide and cleansing of Amharas by providing the ideology to Galla Nationalism and Agame Nationalisms. Ethiopianist never voiced when our people were massacred in Wellega and Arsi. Infact, ethiopianists where trying to silence the Amhara plight by any means it can. For me, Ethiopianist is worse than OromoFirst and TigrayRepublic combined. The Amhara struggle started without the Ethiopianist support or good will. We don't need Ethiopianists blessing. Infact the Ethiopianists should kneel down and beg Amhara to be saved from Gallas subjugation

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Post by TGAA » 24 Jul 2024, 01:58

Misraq wrote:
24 Jul 2024, 00:08
TGAA wrote:
23 Jul 2024, 23:03
As for Eskinder, he is a dead man walking. Trust me, he will be out of commission. The snake is now known by many. Are you calling for his assassination? It seems so.

This overdrive to attack Ethiopianists of every hue will have consequences for the Amhara struggle. Eskinder is not a latecomer in the Ethiopian struggle; his actions, whether good or bad, are a matter of public record. Being involved in the struggle, he may have made some mistakes, but he also made the right moves. You cannot cherry-pick and paint whatever picture you want. If you don't want anyone with an Ethiopianist agenda to get involved, an agenda that serves as a bridge with other Ethiopians, then Fanos need to come to terms with this in a timely fashion and make it public.

If there is a sector of Ethiopian society that has a favorable view of the Amhara struggle, it is the Ethiopianist camp. This support is not for the reasons some might contrive to think. However, if the so-called Amharanist activists continue to attack Ethiopianists savagely because of their views, it would be no less than making an enemy out of a friend. Don’t confuse individual actors with the broader Ethiopianist camp that is in the wings. A decisive shift of this camp could have a determining factor in the end.

If all Fanos decided to reject Eskinder unanimously, there wouldn't have been any controversy. That would have been the end of it. If Eskinder is the one and only reason for division, he needs to step aside for the sake of the struggle. What is worrying is the underlying politics that is the visceral cause of the campaign driving this division: the anti-Ethiopian sentiment that taking roots .
I beg to differ. Ethiopianist is the weakest element in Ethiopian politics. It is been beaten beyound repair by EPLF/TPLF and now OLF. It is an ideology synonym to defeat and retreat. Ethiopianist is known for shouting in the western streets for the white man to save it from rag-tag militias of TPLF. Ethiopianist ideology wants to be saved by Amharas not vise-versa. The attempt of Eskinder and his Ginbote associates is to ressuract this dead ideology using the blood of Amhara through clever ways and medias. Ethiopianists entered in Addis 7 years ago hoping to fool the young Abiy Amhmed the butcher. Instead abiy outperformed, used them and threw them to the trash bin simply by using their favourite word such as Ethiopiachin, ስንሞት ኢትዮጵይ ስንኖር ኢትዮጵያ፥ ኢትዮጵያ ሱሴ....etc. Ethiopianists are idiot gullibles with zero knowledge of politics. They have that disgusting mantra that says አንድ ነን:: Only the weak say አንድ ነን and plead.

Ethiopianist sees Amhara as its enemy. This gullible group is OK with every ethnic nationalism except Amhara nationalism. It knows it won't survive if Amhara nationalism spreads. In a hope to twart that, Ethiopianists deny the very existance of Amhara as people. Ethiopianist preps the genocide and cleansing of Amharas by providing the ideology to Galla Nationalism and Agame Nationalisms. Ethiopianist never voiced when our people were massacred in Wellega and Arsi. Infact, ethiopianists where trying to silence the Amhara plight by any means it can. For me, Ethiopianist is worse than OromoFirst and TigrayRepublic combined. The Amhara struggle started without the Ethiopianist support or good will. We don't need Ethiopianists blessing. Infact the Ethiopianists should kneel down and beg Amhara to be saved from Gallas subjugation
I agree with the basic tenet of your argument. The worst enemy of Ethiopian nationalism has been the so-called Ethiopianists/Marxist bunch, ranging from the Ethiopian student movement to Ginbot 7, and I agree that Amharas have paid dearly because of that. Amhara nationalism is the right response to deal with what is taking place in Ethiopia.

This, however, is only part of the equation. Consider Addis Ababa, where close to 60% of the population is Amhara, a city responsible for more than 60% of Ethiopia's GDP, and where Ethiopian nationalism is stronger than elsewhere. Can the Amhara Fano struggle succeed without the support of the center? I doubt it.

Amhara Fano controls more than 80% of the Amhara region but hasn't made a dent in Abiy's economic and political power. If cutting off the Amhara region from the center is your measure of success, you should know it is the Amhara region, not the center, that is suffering. To gain power at the center, you must do what is palatable to the center.Or use force to beg for your mercy .
This is why both the TPLF and now the OLF/OPDO have paid lip service to Ethiopian nationalism, even though their plans are contrary to their public stance. Some Amhara activists seem to be a new breed who condemn it head-on. What strategy?

Don't forget that there are 15-20 million Amharas who live outside of Amhara proper. Either you abandon them, relocate them, or control every nook and cranny of Ethiopia to guarantee their safety. So, while the accusation against political entities that sponsor the Ethiopian agenda is valid, that by itself is not a political solution. Understanding the complex intricacies of Ethiopian society needs a courageous but wise approach.


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Post by Misraq » 24 Jul 2024, 10:20

Brother TGAA,

I have never said i am sessionst. I do believe Fano should chase the enemy everywhere in Ethiopia where the enemy hides when that day comes. The struggle won't be limited in Amhara Region.

As to those Amharas in Addis or other regions, it is upto them to support Fano by joining. They should also support financially. But if we trully converse on this, Are those significant numbers you qouted active in supporting Fano? no they are not. In my view, the 15-20 million Amharas who live in Addis and the rest of the country are hodams who forgot their identity and only live for the day singing to the tunes of whoever comes to rule. They need a saviour. Their impact so far is very negligible. Infact, they are targets of attacks by Galla and Silte animals. They couldn't even defend themselves let alone influence Fano

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by Odie » 24 Jul 2024, 11:12

"Ethiopianist sees Amhara as its enemy."
This argument does not hold water. It is strategically wrong.
1. ብልጥ ልጅ የተስጠውን እየበላ ያለቅሳል
2. የጠላቴ ጠላት ወዳጄ ነው
3. በፖለቲካ አለም ዘላለማዊ ወዳጅነትና ጠላትነት የለም::
የአማራ ናሽናሊስት ነን ለሚሉ ጥቅም ከስጣቸው ከኢትዮዽፒያኒስት ጋር የማይተባበሩበት ምክንያት የለም:: ፋኖ ከትግራውያን እንኳን ውስጥ ለውስጥ ሊስራ ጥረት ካረገ ከሌላው ጋር እንዴት አይስራም?
ሌላው ኢትዮዽያን የሚያክል አገር resource ስውን ጨምሮ ፋኖ በስትራቴጂ መጠቀም ካልፈለገ(የፋኖ የኢንተርኔት አርበኞች እንድሚሉት) 4 ኪሎ እንደማይደርስ ማሞ ቂሎም በደንብ ያውቃታል:: እርሱ የሚፈልገው ፋኖ ትምክግህተኛ ሆኖ isolate እንዲደረግለት እንዳይስፋፋ አይደል እንዴ? እርሱ ለስልጣኑ የአገር አንጡራ ሃብት የአማራን ጨምሮ አይደል የሚጠቀመው?
"መነሻችን አማራ መድረሻችንኢትዮዽያ" ወደ መነሻችን አማራ መድረሻችን ባህርዳር ሆነ? መድረሻው ኢትዮዽያ ከሆነ ሁሉን የሚያቅፍ ትግሬና ኦሮሞን ጨምሮ ስትራቴጂ ሳይነደፍ ትግሉ አንድ ኢንች ከአማራ ክልል አይወጣም! አብይ በአለም ሜዲያና ሌሎች ፊት ፅንፈኞች አድርጎ አይደል ፋኖን መሳል እየታገለ አማራ ለ100 አመት ስልጣን ላይ አይመጣም ሲል የሚንገበገበው?
ልጅ ያበስለው ለቤተስብ አይበቃም ነው የሚባለው?
TPLF ወደኢሃድግ metamorphose አድርጎ የነበረው ወዶ ነው? በአለም መድረክና አገር ውስጥ የፖለቲካ ተቀባይነት እንዲኖረው አልነበረም? ፋኖ የአማራ ታጋይ ብቻ ሆኖ ከተቸነከረ ማደግ አልቻለም ማለት ነው ከሽፍታነት የዘለለ ስራም አይስራም!!
በተረፈ ይሄ ኢትዮፒያኒስት የሚባለው ቡድን ማን ነው የሚለው ፋኖና ደጋፊዎቹ (የኢንተርኔት አጨብጫቢዎች ሳይሆኑ) ይህን ለመመንጠር የቤት ስራቸውን መስራት አለባቸው:: በዚያ ውስጥ ጥቅመኞች opportunity ወይም ጥቅም ፈላጊዎች አማራ ጠሎች ፋኖ አስመቺዎች ከነዚህ ጋር ምንም ግኑኝነት የሌላቸው አገር ወዳድ የፋኖ ደጋፊዎችን ለይቶ tag ማድረግ አለበት::
አለበለዛ ዝም ብሎ ኢትዮፒያኒስት የአማራ ሃይል ሌላም ሌላም እያሉ ምሽግ ማስያዝ ከኩርፊያ ፖለቲካነት ውጪ የትም አያደርስም:: የአንድ ዘር የበላይነት ትግል ለአማራም ሆነ ለሌላው ወደተሻለ ስርአት አያደርስም:: ተከስተ ዘሩን ይዞ መጣ 30 አመት ገዛ ጫላ ዘሩን ይዞ መጣ ለ10 አመት ዘረፈ ፋኖ ዘሩን ይዞ ይመጣል ከቻለ ለዘለአለም ይገዛል ከዚህ የተነሳ ተከስተና ጫላ ተመልስው ጫካ ይገባሉ ደቡብ ሶማሌና አፋር ከእነዚ ጋር የተጣመሩበት ቀን ያላቻ ጋብቻን እድላቸው እየረገሙ እየፎከቱ ይኖራሉ......
እንደዚህ አይነት ነገር መቀጠል ያለበት በደንቆሮዎች ምድር ብቻ መሆን አለበት!
መልካም ትግል!

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by Right » 24 Jul 2024, 11:23

Brother Misraq is absolutely correct. The Amharas have to look after themselves first.
They shouldn’t be a saviour of Ethiopia. And they shouldn’t be used as a means to further the interests of smaller and hostile ethnic groups. And it has nothing to do with a secessionist agenda. In this trying time most of the smaller ethnic groups have abandon them. Each and every ethnic group has to bear responsibility for safeguarding and building Ethiopia.

Back to the substance of the thread, even if it is true, it is unwise for Zemene Kase to go public with a serious of accusations against Eskinder. That is because he doesn’t have experience. Since his name is thrown into the controversy, he should keep a low profile.
This is a learning curve for young FANO. At this point stay calm and close the cracks. Create a joint task force of 4 regional Fanos and thoroughly investigate what exactly happened. While you do keep the safety of Eskinder in isolation.
It is better for Zemene not to rush to the media. Stay low and don’t give interviews. In serious matters such as this use a spokesperson. Always talk and consult with other FANO leaders before you say anything. Avoid contacts a phone card warriors of the diaspora media and activists. In serious cases such this use a 3rd party.

Evolve and proceed with the fight to protect the interests of Amhara people. Put conditions such as “there will be no negotiation until PP force get out of Amhara region and the government agrees to resign to give way for a transitional government”.
VIVA FANO.

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Re: Zemene Kasey is STUPID, and Eskindir is SUPER STUPID.

Post by Misraq » 24 Jul 2024, 12:20

Odie wrote:
24 Jul 2024, 11:12
"Ethiopianist sees Amhara as its enemy."
This argument does not hold water. It is strategically wrong.
1. ብልጥ ልጅ የተስጠውን እየበላ ያለቅሳል
2. የጠላቴ ጠላት ወዳጄ ነው
3. በፖለቲካ አለም ዘላለማዊ ወዳጅነትና ጠላትነት የለም::
የአማራ ናሽናሊስት ነን ለሚሉ ጥቅም ከስጣቸው ከኢትዮዽፒያኒስት ጋር የማይተባበሩበት ምክንያት የለም:: ፋኖ ከትግራውያን እንኳን ውስጥ ለውስጥ ሊስራ ጥረት ካረገ ከሌላው ጋር እንዴት አይስራም?
ሌላው ኢትዮዽያን የሚያክል አገር resource ስውን ጨምሮ ፋኖ በስትራቴጂ መጠቀም ካልፈለገ(የፋኖ የኢንተርኔት አርበኞች እንድሚሉት) 4 ኪሎ እንደማይደርስ ማሞ ቂሎም በደንብ ያውቃታል:: እርሱ የሚፈልገው ፋኖ ትምክግህተኛ ሆኖ isolate እንዲደረግለት እንዳይስፋፋ አይደል እንዴ? እርሱ ለስልጣኑ የአገር አንጡራ ሃብት የአማራን ጨምሮ አይደል የሚጠቀመው?
"መነሻችን አማራ መድረሻችንኢትዮዽያ" ወደ መነሻችን አማራ መድረሻችን ባህርዳር ሆነ? መድረሻው ኢትዮዽያ ከሆነ ሁሉን የሚያቅፍ ትግሬና ኦሮሞን ጨምሮ ስትራቴጂ ሳይነደፍ ትግሉ አንድ ኢንች ከአማራ ክልል አይወጣም! አብይ በአለም ሜዲያና ሌሎች ፊት ፅንፈኞች አድርጎ አይደል ፋኖን መሳል እየታገለ አማራ ለ100 አመት ስልጣን ላይ አይመጣም ሲል የሚንገበገበው?
ልጅ ያበስለው ለቤተስብ አይበቃም ነው የሚባለው?
TPLF ወደኢሃድግ metamorphose አድርጎ የነበረው ወዶ ነው? በአለም መድረክና አገር ውስጥ የፖለቲካ ተቀባይነት እንዲኖረው አልነበረም? ፋኖ የአማራ ታጋይ ብቻ ሆኖ ከተቸነከረ ማደግ አልቻለም ማለት ነው ከሽፍታነት የዘለለ ስራም አይስራም!!
በተረፈ ይሄ ኢትዮፒያኒስት የሚባለው ቡድን ማን ነው የሚለው ፋኖና ደጋፊዎቹ (የኢንተርኔት አጨብጫቢዎች ሳይሆኑ) ይህን ለመመንጠር የቤት ስራቸውን መስራት አለባቸው:: በዚያ ውስጥ ጥቅመኞች opportunity ወይም ጥቅም ፈላጊዎች አማራ ጠሎች ፋኖ አስመቺዎች ከነዚህ ጋር ምንም ግኑኝነት የሌላቸው አገር ወዳድ የፋኖ ደጋፊዎችን ለይቶ tag ማድረግ አለበት::
አለበለዛ ዝም ብሎ ኢትዮፒያኒስት የአማራ ሃይል ሌላም ሌላም እያሉ ምሽግ ማስያዝ ከኩርፊያ ፖለቲካነት ውጪ የትም አያደርስም:: የአንድ ዘር የበላይነት ትግል ለአማራም ሆነ ለሌላው ወደተሻለ ስርአት አያደርስም:: ተከስተ ዘሩን ይዞ መጣ 30 አመት ገዛ ጫላ ዘሩን ይዞ መጣ ለ10 አመት ዘረፈ ፋኖ ዘሩን ይዞ ይመጣል ከቻለ ለዘለአለም ይገዛል ከዚህ የተነሳ ተከስተና ጫላ ተመልስው ጫካ ይገባሉ ደቡብ ሶማሌና አፋር ከእነዚ ጋር የተጣመሩበት ቀን ያላቻ ጋብቻን እድላቸው እየረገሙ እየፎከቱ ይኖራሉ......
እንደዚህ አይነት ነገር መቀጠል ያለበት በደንቆሮዎች ምድር ብቻ መሆን አለበት!
መልካም ትግል!

What you said makes sense but it is not practical for Amharas. It is a nationalism that is being built. When you build your nationalism, you will focus more on you than playing with words like Abiy was doing. For the people Amhara who are betrayed you focus on telling them how and who betrayed them. You won't go and talk about playful words that reverse what you have built on your base. People are like a river flow. You direct the flow and speak of nationalism. If you do that and try to play dirty with fakery to appease others, you will confuse your own base. Remember, we are talking about massive people, not individuals

The other thing is , Amhara is a large ethnic group. If it mobilizes itself effectively, it will be a power to be reckoned not only in Ethiopia, but for the region as well. The appeasement politics of former Amhara elites did not work. number #1,2 and 3 you pointed are ideal for the weak elements such as Oromo elites under Abiy. Ethiopianists used similar appeasement and a strategy of giving concession for 50 years to hold the state together. It did not work my friend.

People kind of make themselves comfortable around you when you stand with your own and agressively persue your agenda without harming them. And we all know the Amhara question is not harmful to anyone out there. In short Amhara is not against Ethiopia. Amhara nationalism is a concept that will aggressively compete for power and resource within Ethiopia just like Oromos and Tigres do. And this will be done not in a greedy fashion we saw by PP and TPLF, but in a justifiable manner. As simple as that



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