Mereja.Forum

[Dama]

How? Easy.
Speak about 'Gurage's need for a common Gurage language for uniting Gurage in all spheres of life and preserving and developing its culture by its own language. We have enough linguists and funds from Gurages and govs.
Language preservation and development is a protected under the UN for its member states.
The question is."Do you want it or not?"
Don't be mean to Gurage. It looks up to you and cherishes you as its children.

[Horus]

የጉራጌ ብሔር በቋንቋዎቹ ውስጥ ዘዬዎች አክሰንቶችና ዲያሌክቶች ልዩነት ቢኖሩትማ etymologically & philologically ካንድ ግንድ ያደገ ቋንቋ ነው ። ለምሳሌ ትልቁን የሰባት ቤት ሴራ ቃል ጉርዳ እንመልከት ። ይህ ቃል በጆካ ሴራ ግዝት፣ ውግዘት ወይም የማይጣስ ድንጋጌ ማለት ነው። ወደ ሶዶ ክስታኔ ጉታዘር ገደባኖ ሴራ ስንሄድ ጎርደና ይባላል። ጎርደና ባለ ጎርዳ፣ ባለ ጉርዳ ማለት ነው ። ማለትም በጉርዳ ውሳኔ መሰረት የሚተዳደር ሕዝብ ማለት ነው። ይህን እጅግ ቀላል የቋንቋ ዝምድና ማየ ። ት ያልቻሉ በሁለቱ ሴራዎች መሃል ልዩነት ያለ ያስመስላሉ ። ስለሆነ በቃል ደረጃ የጆካ ጉርዳና የጎርደና ሴራዎች አንድ ናቸው ።

እነዚህ ከመሳሰሉ የቋንቋ ጉዳዮች በተቀር የመላ ጉራጌ ጎሳዎች ሁሉ ስልጤን ጨምሮ ክርስቲያን ሆነ ሙስሊም አንድ አይነት ሳይኮሎጂ፣ ስነ ባህሪ ፣ ስነ ስርዓት፣ ስብዕና ፐርሰናሊቲ፣ ስነምግባር ፣የኑሮ ዘይቤ ፣ ምግብ እና ሌሎችም ካልቸሮች የቤት አሰራር አርኪቴክቸር ፣ የቤት መጠቀሚያ ቴክኖሎጂዎች ፣ የስልጣንና ያክብሮች ማእረጎች ፣ የሰልምታና የለቅሶ ባህሎቻቸው ሁሉ አንድ ናቸው ።

ጉራጌ አንድ ብሄር አንድ ሳይኮሎጂ አንድ ሕዝብ ነው ።

አንዱ ዬምጣቢ ይላል! አንዱ ዬብሳቢ ይላል! አንዱ ዬብታቢ ይላል! አንዱ ዬተንቢ ይላል! በቃ!

ስለዚህ ቋንቋዎቹን በተመለከተ ሕዝቡ የተመቸውን ያድርግ! 8ቱም ቋንቋዎች የስነ ጽሁፍ ቋንቋዎች ሆነው እንዲበለጽጉ ከፈለገ እሰዬ ነው። ባለ ብዙ ቋንቋዎች ስልጣኔ እንሆናለን! ቋንቋዎቹ በራሳቸው ሂደት እየተደባለቁ አንድ ትልቅ ቋንቋ እንዲሆን ከፈለጉ እሰዬ ነው ።

[Dama]

The Gurage have lost their independence to decide on what is best for them since Menelick annexed Gurage to Shoa and usurped all its powers.
Gurage need help. The PP and EPRDF Gurage members assigned to rule Gurage only implement policy directives that originate from Head of Central Ethiopia and formerly from SNNPR. Though the Ethiopian Constitution allows use and development of own language for use in gov, media and business, it doesn't legally obligate them, Gurage's rulers. This they use as a loophole to be negligent and avoid the use and development of a common language. One of their excuse is numerous dialects. They don't seek linguist's help. When they, they consult who discourages them more from working on a common language.

But, these do-nothing or do-little bureaucrats can be forced by a concerned grassroot movements. Thats is the PEOPLE demanding for their rights to be respected. Unique to Gurage is that no Ethiopian group had to demand its government to govern it by its language. The Tigrey, Oromo, Amara, Afar, Somali did not have this burden of demanding to be governed by their languages. Gurage, organized for this purpose has to demand for it.

[Horus]

The Gurage have lost their independence to decide on what is best for them since Menelick annexed Gurage to Shoa and usurped all its powers.
Gurage need help. The PP and EPRDF Gurage members assigned to rule Gurage only implement policy directives that originate from Head of Central Ethiopia and formerly from SNNPR. Though the Ethiopian Constitution allows use and development of own language for use in gov, media and business, it doesn't legally obligate them, Gurage's rulers. This they use as a loophole to be negligent and avoid the use and development of a common language. One of their excuse is numerous dialects. They don't seek linguist's help. When they, they consult who discourages them more from working on a common language.

But, these do-nothing or do-little bureaucrats can be forced by a concerned grassroot movements. Thats is the PEOPLE demanding for their rights to be respected. Unique to Gurage is that no Ethiopian group had to demand its government to govern it by its language. The Tigrey, Oromo, Amara, Afar, Somali did not have this burden of demanding to be governed by their languages. Gurage, organized for this purpose has to demand for it.

The job of protecting and growing their language is the responsibility of the Gurage people. So, please don't try to politicize the issue. No body stopped us from growing our languages. If you want, you can criticize Gurage parents and intellectuals. There has never been state discrimination against Gurage language. No politicization of language here!

[Dama]

The Gurage have lost their independence to decide on what is best for them since Menelick annexed Gurage to Shoa and usurped all its powers.
Gurage need help. The PP and EPRDF Gurage members assigned to rule Gurage only implement policy directives that originate from Head of Central Ethiopia and formerly from SNNPR. Though the Ethiopian Constitution allows use and development of own language for use in gov, media and business, it doesn't legally obligate them, Gurage's rulers. This they use as a loophole to be negligent and avoid the use and development of a common language. One of their excuse is numerous dialects. They don't seek linguist's help. When they, they consult who discourages them more from working on a common language.

But, these do-nothing or do-little bureaucrats can be forced by a concerned grassroot movements. Thats is the PEOPLE demanding for their rights to be respected. Unique to Gurage is that no Ethiopian group had to demand its government to govern it by its language. The Tigrey, Oromo, Amara, Afar, Somali did not have this burden of demanding to be governed by their languages. Gurage, organized for this purpose has to demand for it.

The job of protecting and growing their language is the responsibility of the Gurage people. So, please don't try to politicize the issue. No body stopped us from growing our languages. If you want, you can criticize Gurage parents and intellectuals. There has never been state discrimination against Gurage language. No politicization of language here!

Leave it to nature won't save Gurage language and its dialects. You can not, in your normal state of mind, prescribe survival of the fittest between neglected and nurtured languages, a spoken language and a language written for centuries.
A thunder with all its trashing winds that threaten living trees and built houses, Amharic as a killer language already has many skeletons in its closets. Needs to be stopped by a grassroots movement of the Gurage youth and adult well-wishers.

[Horus]

The Gurage have lost their independence to decide on what is best for them since Menelick annexed Gurage to Shoa and usurped all its powers.
Gurage need help. The PP and EPRDF Gurage members assigned to rule Gurage only implement policy directives that originate from Head of Central Ethiopia and formerly from SNNPR. Though the Ethiopian Constitution allows use and development of own language for use in gov, media and business, it doesn't legally obligate them, Gurage's rulers. This they use as a loophole to be negligent and avoid the use and development of a common language. One of their excuse is numerous dialects. They don't seek linguist's help. When they, they consult who discourages them more from working on a common language.

But, these do-nothing or do-little bureaucrats can be forced by a concerned grassroot movements. Thats is the PEOPLE demanding for their rights to be respected. Unique to Gurage is that no Ethiopian group had to demand its government to govern it by its language. The Tigrey, Oromo, Amara, Afar, Somali did not have this burden of demanding to be governed by their languages. Gurage, organized for this purpose has to demand for it.

The job of protecting and growing their language is the responsibility of the Gurage people. So, please don't try to politicize the issue. No body stopped us from growing our languages. If you want, you can criticize Gurage parents and intellectuals. There has never been state discrimination against Gurage language. No politicization of language here!

Leave it to nature won't save Gurage language and its dialects. You can not, in your normal state of mind, prescribe survival of the fittest between neglected and nurtured languages, a spoken language and a language written for centuries.
A thunder with all its trashing winds that threaten living trees and built houses, Amharic as a killer language already has many skeletons in its closets. Needs to be stopped by a grassroots movement of the Gurage youth and adult well-wishers.

Dama ze Weyane,

You need to take your ቆሻሻ የጎሳ ዝተትክን ይዘህ ወደ ራስህ የተረገመ ምድር ተሰብሰብ ! አንተ ቆሻሻ ወያኔ ጸረ ጉራጌ አንተኮ ጉራጌን ከመርካቶ ለማስወጣ 27 አመት ሞክረህ ነበር! ዉሻ !!

[Dama]

The Gurage have lost their independence to decide on what is best for them since Menelick annexed Gurage to Shoa and usurped all its powers.
Gurage need help. The PP and EPRDF Gurage members assigned to rule Gurage only implement policy directives that originate from Head of Central Ethiopia and formerly from SNNPR. Though the Ethiopian Constitution allows use and development of own language for use in gov, media and business, it doesn't legally obligate them, Gurage's rulers. This they use as a loophole to be negligent and avoid the use and development of a common language. One of their excuse is numerous dialects. They don't seek linguist's help. When they, they consult who discourages them more from working on a common language.

But, these do-nothing or do-little bureaucrats can be forced by a concerned grassroot movements. Thats is the PEOPLE demanding for their rights to be respected. Unique to Gurage is that no Ethiopian group had to demand its government to govern it by its language. The Tigrey, Oromo, Amara, Afar, Somali did not have this burden of demanding to be governed by their languages. Gurage, organized for this purpose has to demand for it.

The job of protecting and growing their language is the responsibility of the Gurage people. So, please don't try to politicize the issue. No body stopped us from growing our languages. If you want, you can criticize Gurage parents and intellectuals. There has never been state discrimination against Gurage language. No politicization of language here!

Leave it to nature won't save Gurage language and its dialects. You can not, in your normal state of mind, prescribe survival of the fittest between neglected and nurtured languages, a spoken language and a language written for centuries.
A thunder with all its trashing winds that threaten living trees and built houses, Amharic as a killer language already has many skeletons in its closets. Needs to be stopped by a grassroots movement of the Gurage youth and adult well-wishers.

Dama ze Weyane,

You need to take your ቆሻሻ የጎሳ ዝተትክን ይዘህ ወደ ራስህ የተረገመ ምድር ተሰብሰብ ! አንተ ቆሻሻ ወያኔ ጸረ ጉራጌ አንተኮ ጉራጌን ከመርካቶ ለማስወጣ 27 አመት ሞክረህ ነበር! ዉሻ !!

Donkey neftenya. This is what you're. A sellout kehadi.

[Odie]

How? Easy.
Speak about 'Gurage's need for a common Gurage language for uniting Gurage in all spheres of life and preserving and developing its culture by its own language. We have enough linguists and funds from Gurages and govs.
Language preservation and development is a protected under the UN for its member states.
The question is."Do you want it or not?"
Don't be mean to Gurage. It looks up to you and cherishes you as its children.

ስላም ሆረስ, ቀዮ/ዳማ
ጉርዳ ማለት እንደ ቃል መግባት ቃለመሃላ አይነት ነገር ነው:: ጉርዳ የትባለ ነገር በጣም ቃልኪዳን ነገር ነው:: ጉርዳ ከትባለ የሆነ ምንም ክፉ ነገር እንዳታደርግ የሚያስር ነገር ነው::
ሌላው ትልቅ ቃል ቂጫ የሚባል ቃል አለ:: የጉራጌ ቂጫ ማለት ነገሮች የሚያልቅበት ህግ አይነት ነገር ነው::እኔ ጉራጌ ከሁሉ የሚገርመኝ ይሄ ከጆፈር ቤት አስራር ወዘተ ውጪ conflict resolution መንገዳቸውና ለባህል ስርአቱ ተገዢነታቸው ነው:: ስው ቢጣላ ምናልባትም አልፎ አልፎ ስው ቢገደል how they resolve the conflict permanently with respite is beyond amazing. ከዚህም የተነሳ በመሃላቸው ትልቅ ወንጀል አይኖርም ነበር:: አሁን ከተማ እየተስፋፋ ባህሉ እየተቀየጠ ሲሄድ ብዙ ነገር ይቀየር ይሆናል::
አባቴ ስለ ኮኪር ገደባኖ ሲያወራ እስማው ነበር:: የት እንደሆነ ከስም በስተቀር አላውቀውም:: ምስራቅና ከአዲስ አበባ ቅርብ የሆነው የጉራጌ ክፍል በጣም ከሌላው የጉራጌ ክፍል የተራራቀ ባህሉም እየተደባለቀ ይመስለኛል:: ሆረስ ዳማም በማንነታችሁ ቆማችሁ ስለህብረተስቡ በሌሎች ዘንድ የበለጠ ማስተዋወቃችሁ ድፍረታችሁን አደንቃለሁ:: እኔ ያን ያህል ጥንካሬ የለኝም:: የምትለጥፉትን እከታተላለሁ:: በተለይም ሆረስ አንዳንዴ ፈልፍለህ የምታመጣቸው የባህልና የታሪክ ቪዲዮዎች ጥሩ ናቸው!
በተረፈ ሁሉም የኢትዮዽያ ዘሮች/ethnics ድንቅ ናቸው:: አማራና ጉራጌ በዘር ፖለቲካ የተጠቃበት ዘመን ነው:: አማራው ህብረተስብ ሲገፋ ማንም ዝም መስኘት የለበትም:: የነፃነት ትግሉን መደገፍ ያሻል:: ግፍ በማንም በየትም ቦታ ሲፈፀም ግፍ ነው:: ያለው በገንዘቡ በተለያየ መንገድ ይርዳ;: ጉራጌና አማራ ንፁህ ኢትዮዽያዊ ናቸው:: በዚህ የሚከፋው ካለ እንደነሱ ንፁህ አገርወዳድ ይሁን:: ከዘር አክራሪንት ይውጣ ያኔ አገር ይኖረናል::
ሆረስ ሞህርነትና ክስታኔነት ስላለብህ ነው መስለኝ የስባት ቤትም የክታኔ ም ቋንቋ ስለሚገባህ ስለጉራጌ ብዙ እንድታውቅ ረድቶሃል::
ኬር ኧህር!

[Odie]

ዳማ መሳደብ ጀመረ!
ብልፅግና/ወያኔ እንደኮተኮተው አትክልት ሆንክ?

[Dama]

It was a reply to an aggressive idiot hors shedding crocodile tears for Gurage. All he does is copypaste videos posting for his own news consumption.

You Amaroch are Christian brothers. United in faith to derail any efforts for self-autonomy for Gurage to choose or create a Common language so that Gurage doesn't go extinct. If a group language dies, that tribe is said to be dead. End of story. Gafat Gurage in the north died. It's said their land extended to Aymellel and Chebo, all closely related.
This is a crucial time to save Gurage from extinction by having a common Gurage language. There already is a language shift to Amharic. You put it at 50:50. Our language is being killed by Amharic, not by Oromoffa or Tigrenya. The invasive weed, the killer language is Amharic introduced to us by brutal conquest. Our language death is not the first and won't be the last. Amharic has developed a taste for swallowing languages whole.

You both prefer Amharic to be the common language of Gurage. You are killing Gurage. You are selling Gurage because your are taught Amharic is the language of the Bible, the language of Christ. Really? are you that fools? Are you retarded. This a phenomenon in Gurage among Amaraphile Gurages to isolate and beat down Gurage Muslims. To pit Gurage Muslims against the might of of Amara, individually and collectively, tall and short, thin and fat, man and woman, to target Gurage Muslims as enemies their language nationalism. But what Gurage wants is the continuity of its language and culture. It's a universally established right in the UN Charter and the present Ethiopian constitution. It's legal right and a moral imperative to save a Gurage culture, politics, health, business, media is told by a common Gurage language that is written and spoken by all. Only Gurage has not implements Ethiopian governments and UN's language rights. Shame on us!
A small Harari of 60, 000 people teach their children in their language. Populations comparable to Gurage such Tigrey, Afar, Somali, Sidama, use their common languages in gov, business and media. Only you Amharic lovers deny the Gurage people from communicating and from being served by their own language.

Did we speak Amharic before we were violently annexed to shoa? Isn't Amharic as foreign as Tigrinya, Tigre, Argobinya? The only reason we don't speak Tigrenya, Argobinya or Tigre is because they did not kill our ancestors to invade us.

I have been campaigning for a common Gurage language on Facebook and Twitter for almost now a decade. You can search my posts under the name Dama Gubrya.

For Gurage to unite, it's depriving Gurages the choice of Islam and belief in Waq and convert all Gurages to Christianity, which has many denominations btw. For unity of Gurage, what we need most is a Common language , spoken and written, throughout Gurage.
This language can be one of the dialects of Gurage most understand and speak. Or it could be created out of all dialects.

Sodo, has a well developed pride in Sodo, mainly having been pulled by Amara toward itself than other Gurage groups, Sodo feels its different from the rest; and feels it should mount resistance to a common Gurage language that will replace Amharic. To show their loyalty to Amara ethnic group with a promised benefits. It's sabotaging and polarising all efforts, together with other like-minded Gurage haters. Mostly fringe Christians with a dislocated interest from Gurage.

Or if it can achieve it, by hook or crook, it wants its dialect to be imposed as Common language of Gurage. Sodo is resisting popularly spoken and understood dialects by many Gurages, according research of Welkite University, such as Chaha and Innor.

Sodo will not stay with us for too long if we adopt a common Gurage language other than its dialect. Just like Silte claimed it's Muslim identity did not fit in with Gurage's pluralist society. Sodo feels exactly same in a different way. It believe, it's a dominantly Orthodox Christian, and Christian longer, more puritan than 7bet calling itself Kistane(a land of Christians), as a result of which it feels different and perhaps superior to the rest of Gurage. Pulled and influenced by the the 'great' of Amara, to itself. They look up to Amara to protect them from Oromo rather than Gurage. All the while disarming themselves not to defend themselves. All they do is complain to Amara as if they were mentally and physically disabled to secure their lands, lives and properties. Throughout centuries, Sodo has never put up a fight against Oromo aggression or in defence of Gurage.
Worthless!
I thought you were smarter than him but was laughing my [deleted] off when you were pouring on unmerited accolades on him.

[Odie]

Dama christian and amhara hater woyane servant!
You don’t have to hate Amhara or even Oromo to get out of Gurage/muslim predicament. Amhara is not your trouble any more if you thought it was. So what you have to do is go back to gurage people and work with similar minded people. The problem is no body will buy your poison idea of combining muslim activism with gurage activism. Drop the muslim issue bs no muslim is complaining in Gurage region or in the country this time for that matter. Also all gurage is not muslim. It looks like you think before Menelik gurage was muslim ruled by Hasan enjamo-the slave of gragn and you want back the same thing for gurage. You sound a TPLF cultivated narrow religiously motivated ethnocentrist.
Get lost or go speak to ERISTU!
Personally I believe it is good to organize gurage for the betterment of their lives, culture and maintenance of their language whatever the fate of the nation is. However the stupidest idea is to think about muslimizing gurage or the nation and adding that to politics. It is not taking you anywhere. Change direction.

[Dama]

Dama christian and amhara hater woyane servant!
You don’t have to hate Amhara or even Oromo to get out of Gurage/muslim predicament. Amhara is not your trouble any more if you thought it was. So what you have to do is go back to gurage people and work with similar minded people. The problem is no body will buy your poison idea of combining muslim activism with gurage activism. Drop the muslim issue bs no muslim is complaining in Gurage region or in the country this time for that matter. Also all gurage is not muslim. It looks like you think before Menelik gurage was muslim ruled by Hasan enjamo-the slave of gragn and you want back the same thing for gurage. You sound a TPLF cultivated narrow religiously motivated ethnocentrist.
Get lost or go speak to ERISTU!
Personally I believe it is good to organize gurage for the betterment of their lives, culture and maintenance of their language whatever the fate of the nation is. However the stupidest idea is to think about muslimizing gurage or the nation and adding that to politics. It is not taking you anywhere. Change direction.

...Boy, you have to prove what you claim. Show where I displayed hatred for any ethnic groups. Dumb self-haters!

...There have been murders of ordinary Muslims in Amara just a month or two ago carried out by unknown assassins suspected to be Fano reported by Islamic Association of Ethiopia. FYI, google their website and read it for yourself.

...Christian extremists violence against Gurage Muslims by like of you has been going since 2010, in different parts of Gurage from Muhir to Innor. 8 mosques burned in Muhir in 2010. A Muslim Silte forester in Chaha, all his tractors and tree harvesters, etc burned down. In 2023, in Gunchirye, may be your village is nearby, attacks on Muslims injured many with fatalities unknown.

Rhetoric, speech, highlighting discrimination based on religious difference is the work of politicians, media and scholars. You should not try or get incensed about discussing religious inequality. it's there before your blind eyes; you can't hide it.

Don't be afraid you'll lose the supremacy of your faith or the privileges the Abiy Ahmed Ethiopian gov doles out or those you get from the CIA or US missionaries, to violently disfranchise and exploit Ethiopian Muslims. Not good in God's eyes.

You stopped learning. You're a dead brain. It was last week in one of the posts that you followed me that I told you, it's a fact, that Islam in Gurage long before Imam Gurey. Since families of the Prophet Mohammed took refuge in King negash's Kingdom, Gurage Muslims used to go there to learn Islam and came back home to Gurage. Islam in Gurage is much older than Orthodox or Cathlicism.
bado ras!!
Dumbest of the dumbs!!