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Re: What does the Quran say about Israel?

Post by Somaliman » 11 Jun 2024, 18:14

Naga Tuma wrote:
11 Jun 2024, 17:47
Somaliman wrote:
10 Jun 2024, 21:00
… even native Arabs have monumental difficulties in interpreting the Qur'an.
Does it inform you about something?

How far has your discussion with eritrea about spirituality gone?




Does it inform you about something?
The answer to this is in the very same statement which you've quoted me on. In other words, just speaking Arabic is not sufficient to interpret the Qur'an.
How far has your discussion with eritrea about spirituality gone?
This is more robotic than human! Are you not using by chance a very basic home made Artificial intelligence!

I've never had any discussion with Eritrea, leave alone about spirituality.

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Re: What does the Quran say about Israel?

Post by Naga Tuma » 11 Jun 2024, 18:59

Somaliman wrote:
11 Jun 2024, 18:14
Naga Tuma wrote:
11 Jun 2024, 17:47
Somaliman wrote:
10 Jun 2024, 21:00
… even native Arabs have monumental difficulties in interpreting the Qur'an.
Does it inform you about something?

How far has your discussion with eritrea about spirituality gone?




Does it inform you about something?
The answer to this is in the very same statement which you've quoted me on. In other words, just speaking Arabic is not sufficient to interpret the Qur'an.
How far has your discussion with eritrea about spirituality gone?
This is more robotic than human! Are you not using by chance a very basic home made Artificial intelligence!

I've never had any discussion with Eritrea, leave alone about spirituality.
My question about your statement stands. It is about what you can learn from it.

My fault if I didn’t make my second question clear enough to you.

I was referring to a discussion you were having with a participant named eritrea. It sounded to me along the line of thinking during the early days of enlightenment. He has some fascinating outlook.

Sorry if I misremembered the participants in that discussion.

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Re: What does the Quran say about Israel?

Post by Somaliman » 11 Jun 2024, 19:58

Naga Tuma wrote:
11 Jun 2024, 18:59
Somaliman wrote:
11 Jun 2024, 18:14
Naga Tuma wrote:
11 Jun 2024, 17:47
Somaliman wrote:
10 Jun 2024, 21:00
… even native Arabs have monumental difficulties in interpreting the Qur'an.
Does it inform you about something?

How far has your discussion with eritrea about spirituality gone?

Does it inform you about something?
The answer to this is in the very same statement which you've quoted me on. In other words, just speaking Arabic is not sufficient to interpret the Qur'an.
How far has your discussion with eritrea about spirituality gone?
This is more robotic than human! Are you not using by chance a very basic home made Artificial intelligence!

I've never had any discussion with Eritrea, leave alone about spirituality.
My question about your statement stands. It is about what you can learn from it.

My fault if I didn’t make my second question clear enough to you.

I was referring to a discussion you were having with a participant named eritrea. It sounded to me along the line of thinking during the early days of enlightenment. He has some fascinating outlook.

Sorry if I misremembered the participants in that discussion.




Naga Tuma,

Trust me, I've just signed in to say sorry to you for having confused eritrea with Eritrea, but then saw your comment. This username, "eritrea" was out of my mind as I haven't come across it since the last conversation I had with him..

To start with this one. Well, although we were having a polite conversation, he suddenly vanished, unless he switched to another username like a few people on this forum do.

With regard to the first question, I can learn from it that a devine belief is for the whole of humanity or all the people in the world; thus, should not be treated as an exclusive property of a particular language, as it's spirituality after all. In addition, it demonstrates that speaking the language in which (a) the devine belief was revealed doesn't necessarily make anyone a better believer over the ones who don't speak such a language. For instance, God, talking to the Quraish (Arabs) in the era of the Prophet Mohamad (PBUH), says in the Qur'an, Verse (12:2): "We have revealed it (the Qur'an) in the Arabic language so that you (people) would understand it." He didn't say, so that you would be better believers. And as a matter of fact, a significant number of native Arabic language speakers, or Arabs, if you like, since all native Arabs speak Arabic, are not Muslims to this very day. Therefore, a devine belief is not restricted to a particular language, group of people, geographic location, culture, etc.

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Re: What does the Quran say about Israel?

Post by Sadacha Macca » 14 Jun 2024, 17:46

Deqi-Arawit wrote:
11 Jun 2024, 17:54
The logic is as follows.

Only Arabs understand the Quran
and when some Arabs refutes the Quran,
the enablers say, only scholars understand the Quran. :mrgreen:

Quran is neither Devine nor nothing, it was just a book just like main kamp by Hitler or the communist manifesto by Karl Marx. :arrow:
False. One does not have to be an Arab to know Arabic, there are Ethiopian scholars of Islam for example, who knew the Qur'an well enough.
But, don't let the truth get in the way of your hate-based opinion sir.
Yes, you do need to study something, in order to know what that 'something is,' that's common sense; doesn't take a degree or a genius to know that.
But once again, don't let the truth get in the way of your hate based/overly simple perspective.
In regards to it being divine, or the truth, in time you'll see. No worries. You are free to disbelieve, but in the end, you will see indeed.


beloved tigrayan brother aka ''somaliman'' and esteemed forumers;
Yes, one needs to know Arabic to truly understand the Qur'an and be able to then, InshaaAllaah, act upon it and apply it to ones life.
Simply reading the english or any other translation does not suffice. This is not a controversial or ground-breaking statement; it's the truth and has been for quite a while. One does not need to be Arab to know Arabic, but one does need to take the time to study it, in order to know it and comprehend it; and yes one needs to study the tafsir as well.

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