Is Mathias Gudina perhaps the son of the brother of Baro Tumsa (Gudina Tumsa)? If someone knows him here?
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DefendTheTruth
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Re: Horus, a question for you
Yet another version of the story from someone who admitted to have been not on the scene and only heard it from somebody else.
Is Mathias Gudina perhaps the son of the brother of Baro Tumsa (Gudina Tumsa)? If someone knows him here?
Is Mathias Gudina perhaps the son of the brother of Baro Tumsa (Gudina Tumsa)? If someone knows him here?
Re: Horus, a question for you
ይህ ሰዉ ያለዉ እና ከነባር የኦነግ ታጋይ ኣንድ ግዜ የሰማሁኝ በኣንድ ነገር ላይ ይስማማሉ።DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 14:34Yet another version of the story from someone who admitted to have been not on the scene and only heard it from somebody else.
Is Mathias Gudina perhaps the son of the brother of Baro Tumsa (Gudina Tumsa)? If someone knows him here?
በዾ ደቻሳ ከባሮ ቱምሳ በፊት ወደ ትግል ሜዳ መሄዱ ላይ ይስማማሉ።
የማይስማሙበት ነገር ኣንዱ በዾ ደቻሳ ባሮ ቱምሳን ኣብረን እንሂድ ሲለዉ እምቢ ብሎ ቀርቶ በዾ ቆርጦ ሄደ ሲል ሌላዉ በዾን ያላከዉ ባሮ ነዉ ይላል።
ሁለቱም ምስክርነቶች እዉነት ሊሆኑ ኣይችሉም። እርስ በእርስ የሚጋጩ ምስክርነቶች ስለሆኑ ኣንዱ ብቻ ነዉ እዉነት መሆን የሚችለዉ።
ነገሪ በዾ የተላከዉ በባሮ ነዉ ካላ አባ ብያ እራሱን መጠየቅ የሚችለዉ እንዴት ሆኖ ነዉ ባሮ በዾን ከደርግ ወታደርነት ፈልጎ ያገኘዉ እና እስከ መላክ የደረሰዉ ነዉ። በዾን ብቻ ነዉ ከደርግ ወታደርነት ፈልጎ ኣግኝቶት ያላከዉ ወይስ ሌሎች ኣብረዉ ነበሩ?
ስለዚህ አባ ብያ እንዴት ነዉ ሰማሁ ብሎ የተናገረዉን የታሪክ ስህተት ማረም የሚችለዉ?
ነገሪ ደግሞ እራሱን መጠየቅ የሚችለዉ የበዾ የትግል ሜዳ ስም ደመቅሳ የነበረ ከሆነ፣ ነዺ ገመዳ ለእሱ ማስታወሻነት ደመቅሳ ብሎ ከጻፈ ነዺ ነዉ ወይስ ነገሪ ነዉ ስለ በዾ ጤንነት ስህተትን የመሰከረዉ?
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DefendTheTruth
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Re: Horus, a question for you
ያ ጠወልዋሌ ያ ጠወልዋሌ አሥስ አችስ ኒ ሴንታ፣
ማል ማሊ ኢሳ ዋንመ ኬ ወላሌ።
ተከዩ ኢትዮጵያፍን ዺሜ ፈለመ ኑን ጄታ፣
ታከዩሞ ዴብቴ ኦሮሞን ብልሳ ባሳ ኢትዮጵያራ ጄታ፡
ማሉመ ቱሬ ላታ ከን አሥስ አቺስ ሥሴንስሣ ቱሬ ላታ
ኑት ሕመ ላታ ከን ጋፈ ዱቱ፣ ስወጅን ቱሬ፣ ሕልም ኦቦ ለታ::
Still you are not saying precisely, Obbo Lencho Leta, but why?
He came in the morning on the day, what was the reason? Was a meeting?
What was you discussing for the whole day? What was the topic? Organisational issues? Or Personal issues? How many of you were there in the discussion? Who were they? You said Badho killed himself, you admitted now. Why are the others saying he was killed by the guards, which ever the guard was.
Why was Badho (as mentally ill, in your own words) selectively shooting at you and Baro alone? We now also heard that your brother, Abba Chala Leta, was also there. Was he also shot at?
According to the information from Abba Biyya Abba Jobir, Obbo Dima Nagawo was also there, which means many of the leadership circle were there and only you and Baro were targeted and in this case what Prof. Merera wrote should be more precise.
If Badho was mentally ill, then the most likely reason for that should be perhaps because of the people like you, who has developed nothing good for the Oromo people except division in the communities of different kinds and political organisations.
Are you proud of that fame?
ማል ማሊ ኢሳ ዋንመ ኬ ወላሌ።
ተከዩ ኢትዮጵያፍን ዺሜ ፈለመ ኑን ጄታ፣
ታከዩሞ ዴብቴ ኦሮሞን ብልሳ ባሳ ኢትዮጵያራ ጄታ፡
ማሉመ ቱሬ ላታ ከን አሥስ አቺስ ሥሴንስሣ ቱሬ ላታ
ኑት ሕመ ላታ ከን ጋፈ ዱቱ፣ ስወጅን ቱሬ፣ ሕልም ኦቦ ለታ::
Still you are not saying precisely, Obbo Lencho Leta, but why?
He came in the morning on the day, what was the reason? Was a meeting?
What was you discussing for the whole day? What was the topic? Organisational issues? Or Personal issues? How many of you were there in the discussion? Who were they? You said Badho killed himself, you admitted now. Why are the others saying he was killed by the guards, which ever the guard was.
Why was Badho (as mentally ill, in your own words) selectively shooting at you and Baro alone? We now also heard that your brother, Abba Chala Leta, was also there. Was he also shot at?
According to the information from Abba Biyya Abba Jobir, Obbo Dima Nagawo was also there, which means many of the leadership circle were there and only you and Baro were targeted and in this case what Prof. Merera wrote should be more precise.
If Badho was mentally ill, then the most likely reason for that should be perhaps because of the people like you, who has developed nothing good for the Oromo people except division in the communities of different kinds and political organisations.
Are you proud of that fame?
Re: Horus, a question for you
According to you, “Showa” is a hostile territory for Wallaga to be deeply infiltrated by Wallaga. Why is where Ambo is so ambiguous to you?DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑20 May 2024, 14:25I think Ambo is in Showa, even if it has been deeply infiltrated by many from Wollega and if Wollega does the job, why they need their own party or something to "define themselves"?Noble Amhara wrote: ↑20 May 2024, 14:05የአርሲ ባሌ እና የሐረርጌ ኦሮሞዎች አሁን በጅማ ከሚመራው የብልጽግና ፓርቲ ጋር እየሰሩ ነው ቱለማዎችም ከአብይ ጋር እየሰሩ ነው illubabor ከወለጋ ኦነግ ይልቅ ጅማ ኦህዴድን የመረጡ ይመስላሉ። Guji protested against Borana Zone expansion in their zone. Guji do not know what Oromo is Same with Borana they are clan first and hold no dominance in Oromo politics or affairs. Welega are using sinfegna Shene to enforce their rule over other Oromos. Shawa Oromos are also behind because they have no party or any thing that can define themselves to the rest of the country. Not even an organization that is why Jimma Oromo (PP) and Welega Oromo (OLF) are fighting each other to dominate Showa. They can't scream "Finfine" without Shewa Oromo. Therefore Shewa Oromo has to save itselfHorus wrote: ↑20 May 2024, 13:57አንተ የሸዋ ኦሮሞ ነህ ባልሳሳት፣ ያውም የሰፈራችን ኦሮሞ ነህ ። አቦማ ቅልጥ ያለ የወለጋ ፕሮቴታንት የሃብታም ልጅ (አባቱ መድሃኒት ቤት ነበራቸው) ነው። አው የሰፋሪ ቅኝ ግዛት (settler colonialism) ተረት ካጠነጠኑት ጀማሪዎች አንዱ ነው ። የጻፋትንም ወረቀት አሳይቶኛል ። ነገር ግን ዲዲቲ አንተ የኦሮሞ ጉዳይ ለምን እንዲህ ተወሳስቦ አሁን የደረሰበት አሳዛኝ ውጥንቅጥ ውስጥ ሊደርስ ቻለ ብለህ ነገሩን ከስሩ ማወቅ ከፈለክ የምትጀምረው ከአቦማ ምትኩ ሳይሆን ከሜጫ ቱለማ መረዳጃ ድርጅትና ከነታደሰ ብሩ፣ ከነማሞ መዘምር ነው ። ያኔ ነው እንዴት የሸዋ ኦሮሞ ድርጅት በነአሩሲ፣ በነባሌ፣ በነዋቆና በነወለጋ ተገንጣዮች እንዴት እንደ ተጠለፈና የዛሬ ኦሮሙማ ቀውስን እንደ ወልደ የምታወቀው ።DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑20 May 2024, 13:39እንደሰማሁት ከሆነ የኦነግ ቆርቋሪ(? አማርኛዉ ከጠፋኝ መስራች ለማለት ነዉ) አባል ነዉ፣ ኦነጋዊያን በአገራችን ላይ ያስከተሉት ትልቅ ዉድመት ጋና ለታሪክ ተፅፎ የምቀመጥ ና ለመጪዉ ትዉልድ ማስተማሪያ የምሆን ነዉ።Horus wrote: ↑20 May 2024, 13:25እጅግ በጣም ነው የማውቀው ፤ ለምንድን ነው ማወቅ የፈለከው?DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑20 May 2024, 12:10አንድ ወቅት ላይ አቦማ ምትኩን አዉቀዋለሁ ብለህ ፅፈህ ነበር፣ እስክ ምን ያክል እንደምታዉቀዉ አጠር አርገህ ግለፅልን። የፖለቲካ ምልከተዉን፣ የማህበራዊ እዪታዉን ና ስለ ኢትዮጵያ የነበረዉን ግንዛቤ፣ ከተመቸህ ሌላም ጨምርበት!
ኦነግ አንግቦ የተነሰዉ ጥያቄ አግባብ የለዉ ስሆን፣ አካሄዱ በጣም ዉስብስብ ና ጥፋት የተሞላበት ነበር። ከባሮ ቱምሳ ጀምሮ ሀጫሉ ሁንዴሳ ግዲያ ድረስ፣ መዝግበን ማስቀመጥ አለብን። ለዚህ ደግሞ ስዎቹ እናማን ነበሩ የምለዉ ጥያቄ በመጀመሪያ ደረጀ መመለስ ያለበት ይመስለኛል።
"Xiiqidhaan waa hojjachuu jaallata. Abbaa Xiiqii jedhuun; humna tokko [humna waraanaa ABO] tokko Harar irraa fuudhee Ambo gara Waddeessatti dabarsuu keessatti shoora olaanaa taphate," jechuun umurii gabaabaa jiraate keessatti waan seenan ittiin isa yaadatu hojjachuusaafi osoo lubbuun jiraatee nama Mallas Zeenaawii fa'aa caalaa beekumsaafi dandeettii biyya gaggeessuu qabu akka ture kaasu.
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Re: Horus, a question for you
ለሃገር ብሎ ተነስቶ ቆሞ ከጣልያን ባርነት ያተረፈህ፣
ንቅናቄን ጀምሮ ያስተማረህ፣
ወልዶ ኣሳድጎ የዳረህ፣
ሕዝብ ላይ ድሮ ሳይሆን እንደ ኣዉሮፓ ኣቆጣጣር በ2024 እንደዚህ መሳለቅ ምንድነዉ?
የፖለትካ ሳይምስ ፕሮፌሰሩ ይህን ሕዝብም ሆነ እራሱን እንዴት ዲፋይን ማድረግ እንደሚችል መልስ ኣገኘ? ወይስ ኣንተ እንዳልከዉ ኣንተ ስራዉን ከሰራህልኝ እነሱንም ሆነ እራሴን ዲፋይን ማድረግ ምን ያደርግልኛል ብሎ ዝም ኣለ?
ንቅናቄን ጀምሮ ያስተማረህ፣
ወልዶ ኣሳድጎ የዳረህ፣
ሕዝብ ላይ ድሮ ሳይሆን እንደ ኣዉሮፓ ኣቆጣጣር በ2024 እንደዚህ መሳለቅ ምንድነዉ?
የፖለትካ ሳይምስ ፕሮፌሰሩ ይህን ሕዝብም ሆነ እራሱን እንዴት ዲፋይን ማድረግ እንደሚችል መልስ ኣገኘ? ወይስ ኣንተ እንዳልከዉ ኣንተ ስራዉን ከሰራህልኝ እነሱንም ሆነ እራሴን ዲፋይን ማድረግ ምን ያደርግልኛል ብሎ ዝም ኣለ?
Re: Horus, a question for you
DefendTheTruth:
Does this local song have anything to define and present to the rest of the country?
Does this local song have anything to define and present to the rest of the country?
Re: Horus, a question for you
Behave, wouldn't you? Or at least decease from ethnic bigot.sun wrote: ↑20 May 2024, 21:45Actually the whole of these reactive garbage talks are only divisive and negative bush!t talks of no values to any human, animals and plants. During this new era of 21st century information age we have to focus on the Positive, on the Hope, on the Human and Material development so that we may become Healthy, Wealthy and Great Together.
So, brainless divisive backward monkey behavior types just fck off and go to munch your false Banana roots and leaves because I am criticizing your utterly bad behavior but not persons and personalities, so to say. Last but NOT least Aboma Mitiku's father is not a pharmacist neither did he own any pharmacy in his life time. Moshlaaqqa asmessay wushetam shelemixmaax tultullaa hulla! Okay? Okay!!![]()
I think the short political biography of Aboma Mitiku given by Horus more than enough for such a discussion forum. Horus's stand on any ethnic freedom fighters in Ethiopia is clear. He would'nt also support a Gurage liberation front. He made his view of the form Ethiopian unity abundantly clear. Given these well known facts about Horus, the questions he asked to clarify or add more while no unknown point or error about Aboma was not mentioned is actually demanding him to support OLF.
Good luck on that!!!