Horus wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 16:32Jikaar,
This was all expected. What we are witnessing is regional and world powers scrambling to have a piece of the action. This game is like a billiard table, you move one piece, then all the others move.
Turkish Ottoman Empire is back in full force. Believe me UAE, USA, Russia, etc will not sit idle. There will be a lot of dynamics.
It is true that right now Ethiopia doesn't have a strong nationally popular regime. That is why this deal has been delayed.
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Delayed or destroyed? Gurage donkey the truth took you 2 months to understand. I tried to save you the time and trouble. The only Somali sea your prostitute gurage females will see is my cuum in their face.
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For your information awdal region (read zaylac) is heavily influenced by djibouti. 95% of it's inhabitants are exactly the same ones from djibouti . When it comes the rest of somaliland coast Isaaq the dominant clan of somaliland owns from ceelsheekh to waqdariya (coastal)Horus wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 16:32Jikaar,
This was all expected. What we are witnessing is regional and world powers scrambling to have a piece of the action. This game is like a billiard table, you move one piece, then all the others move.
Turkish Ottoman Empire is back in full force. Believe me UAE, USA, Russia, etc will not sit idle. There will be a lot of dynamics.
I agree with you that Ethiopia and SLR move fast create realities on the ground. Somalilanders and Ethiopians live on the ground. They will eventually determine the final outcomes. My guess is that Adwal folks want to to be part of the game in terms of commercializing Zeila.
It is all a game of economics and some power. Very soon Turkey will face the complex issues of Somalian politics and the Horn of Africa.
It is true that right now Ethiopia doesn't have a strong nationally popular regime. That is why this deal has been delayed. Oromos are not in good terms with their own and Ethiopian people. That said, Turkey's ,Egyptian and even US obstructions can only slow down the process.
No body can stop SLR from deciding its destiny. If Ethiopia is bold enough, it will recognize SLR soon and put a stop to the madness. Or, another country will recognize SLR and then we will see what happens to the MoU.
As said weeks ago, the MoU has put the SLR on the world map and put its nationhood process on a fast lane. All of these dramatics are part of that fast motion.
This was what it looked in 16th century Ottoman empire. We are still here. We are still free.Nothing will change.
Zaylac is also religiously sacred for all Somalis This is why turkey accepted their invitation for historical reasons. Djibouti government doesn't want any portal development between djibouti port and Berbera for economical reasons . Without djibouti influence Somalia is nothing around here .
You Ethiopians seem too big but you are very unaware of the reality on the ground. And you are too divided. Most of the Ethiopians hate the Oromos right now. But we isaaqs don't. I have studied all your ethnic groups none of them is very serious to declare independence from Ethiopia including the Oromos. You are all power hungry.
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Look you stupid Oromo hybrid there is nothing Abiy can do for you. Especially a Gurage that doesn't even have a toilet and so defecates on the street. Somalia is POWERFULJikaar wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 18:09For your information awdal region (read zaylac) is heavily influenced by djibouti. 95% of it's inhabitants are exactly the same ones from djibouti . When it comes the rest of somaliland coast Isaaq the dominant clan of somaliland owns from ceelsheekh to waqdariya (coastal)Horus wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 16:32Jikaar,
This was all expected. What we are witnessing is regional and world powers scrambling to have a piece of the action. This game is like a billiard table, you move one piece, then all the others move.
Turkish Ottoman Empire is back in full force. Believe me UAE, USA, Russia, etc will not sit idle. There will be a lot of dynamics.
I agree with you that Ethiopia and SLR move fast create realities on the ground. Somalilanders and Ethiopians live on the ground. They will eventually determine the final outcomes. My guess is that Adwal folks want to to be part of the game in terms of commercializing Zeila.
It is all a game of economics and some power. Very soon Turkey will face the complex issues of Somalian politics and the Horn of Africa.
It is true that right now Ethiopia doesn't have a strong nationally popular regime. That is why this deal has been delayed. Oromos are not in good terms with their own and Ethiopian people. That said, Turkey's ,Egyptian and even US obstructions can only slow down the process.
No body can stop SLR from deciding its destiny. If Ethiopia is bold enough, it will recognize SLR soon and put a stop to the madness. Or, another country will recognize SLR and then we will see what happens to the MoU.
As said weeks ago, the MoU has put the SLR on the world map and put its nationhood process on a fast lane. All of these dramatics are part of that fast motion.
This was what it looked in 16th century Ottoman empire. We are still here. We are still free.Nothing will change.
Zaylac is also religiously sacred for all Somalis This is why turkey accepted their invitation for historical reasons. Djibouti government doesn't want any portal development between djibouti port and Berbera for economical reasons . Without djibouti influence Somalia is nothing around here .
You Ethiopians seem too big but you are very unaware of the reality on the ground. And you are too divided. Most of the Ethiopians hate the Oromos right now. But we isaaqs don't. I have studied all your ethnic groups none of them is very serious to declare independence from Ethiopia including the Oromos. You are all power hungry.
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Of course no one expects you to admit your humiliation defeat in the hands of the “tiny”. Unlike you who NEVER win single war, from Somalia’s war in 1977 (with huge military personnel help from Cuba and Soviets), to the current once. You never faces the “tiny” without bringing 10 plus countries to help although you outnumbered Shaebia 1 to 20 in terms of manpower and military hardwares. Still, your coward behind was completely decimated, never to try again your luck. Listen to your former Shaebia’s POWs, today’s Field Marshal many interviews how the war in Eritrea is ended the way it did.
Shaebia needed no one helps, from foreign to domestic once. You mentioned Somalia. Somalia war was ended in 1977….my friend. You mentioned Weyane, Weyane never liberated a single Tigray town until 1988 for the first time (a town of Rama, a size of Debre Zeit at the time) only when Shaebia crossed the border and captured it for Weyane. Not only Shaebia liberated every single towns and cities of its own but also every towns inside Ethiopia, from Shire to Welega in 1990 thru 1991, carrying Weyane to Addis themselves. OLF? You must be kidding. Tell me one single town OLF liberated pre 1991? OLF wasn’t a threat to Derg, it was merely a nuisance.
Remember, your all Generals today were once the might Shaebia POWs and they won’t even brag about defeating Shaebia now as you paper tiger would today; they know what Shaebia is made off.
By the way, Shaebia is the only force in the world who captured 4 high ranking Soviet officers alive in the decimation if Nadow Ezi in 1989. What an embarrassment was for mama Ethiopia. Needing help from others to defeat the “tiny” while the “tiny” had no help from ANYONE!!
Shaebia needed no one helps, from foreign to domestic once. You mentioned Somalia. Somalia war was ended in 1977….my friend. You mentioned Weyane, Weyane never liberated a single Tigray town until 1988 for the first time (a town of Rama, a size of Debre Zeit at the time) only when Shaebia crossed the border and captured it for Weyane. Not only Shaebia liberated every single towns and cities of its own but also every towns inside Ethiopia, from Shire to Welega in 1990 thru 1991, carrying Weyane to Addis themselves. OLF? You must be kidding. Tell me one single town OLF liberated pre 1991? OLF wasn’t a threat to Derg, it was merely a nuisance.
Remember, your all Generals today were once the might Shaebia POWs and they won’t even brag about defeating Shaebia now as you paper tiger would today; they know what Shaebia is made off.
By the way, Shaebia is the only force in the world who captured 4 high ranking Soviet officers alive in the decimation if Nadow Ezi in 1989. What an embarrassment was for mama Ethiopia. Needing help from others to defeat the “tiny” while the “tiny” had no help from ANYONE!!
Abere wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 15:25Nothing is far from the truth. Eritrea /Shabia was in fact feasted on others kill, not really a fighter/a hunter. Shabia is an opportunistic one. Shabia alone could not even have seen Asmara in 100 years, if Derg was not fighting with TPLF, OLF, Somalia, EPP, etc. Derg was fighting at least 3 more rebels armed to teeth including Shabia. You guys play loud empty brag as a tactic to inflate yourself and look like hero. If your capacity, size and stature were comparable where were you at when your flee like a roach under light during the Badme warYou guys only pop up when Ethiopia fights multiple wars with manyfold enemy, other than that you are tiny and nothing in the face of Ethiopia army under normal circumstances. It is like a cat observing her image in a mirror thinking it is a lion.
euroland wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 13:40
Isn’t this “tiny Eritrea” beat a sh@t out your beloved Derg mercilessly, with its huge military power and none stop help from its handlers, the Russians, the Cuba, South Yemen, Libya, E. German, N. Korea others. This “tiny Eritrea” chased your beloved leaser to Zimbabwe and the rest of his military officers and rank and file end up til this day as street beggars.
Don’t brag about “big” country, this “big” country is nothing in front of the “tiny” one. Your PP is even much weaker than the Derg, thus, so you think you have a better chance this time winning against the “timy”? Come and try it. Of course if the war stars, you still be hiding behind your computer somewhere in the west and yell በለው so the poor kid would die for you.
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Jikaar,
Somalis have clan politics. Ethiopians have ethnic politics.In both cases it is about power and wealth. Being big has its advantages and also its disadvantages. No, we don't hate Oromo people, we hate Oromo elites in power. Look at what has been happening in Ethiopia for last 5 years? Pure chaos. Read the UN Human Rights report issued today! It is a shame that a regime does that to its own people.That is the Oromo we hate.
Somalis have clan politics. Ethiopians have ethnic politics.In both cases it is about power and wealth. Being big has its advantages and also its disadvantages. No, we don't hate Oromo people, we hate Oromo elites in power. Look at what has been happening in Ethiopia for last 5 years? Pure chaos. Read the UN Human Rights report issued today! It is a shame that a regime does that to its own people.That is the Oromo we hate.
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Clan politics is less destructive. Ethnic politics is a disaster in my opinion. For example the Somali ethnic group are generally fascists they don't respect any international borders.Horus wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 18:34Jikaar,
Somalis have clan politics. Ethiopians have ethnic politics.In both cases it is about power and wealth. Being big has its advantages and also its disadvantages. No, we don't hate Oromo people, we hate Oromo elites in power. Look at what has been happening in Ethiopia for last 5 years? Pure chaos. Read the UN Human Rights report issued today! It is a shame that a regime does that to its own people.That is the Oromo we hate.
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Gurage donkey, already back stabbing Oromo? No shameHorus wrote: ↑21 Feb 2024, 18:34Jikaar,
Somalis have clan politics. Ethiopians have ethnic politics.In both cases it is about power and wealth. Being big has its advantages and also its disadvantages. No, we don't hate Oromo people, we hate Oromo elites in power. Look at what has been happening in Ethiopia for last 5 years? Pure chaos. Read the UN Human Rights report issued today! It is a shame that a regime does that to its own people.That is the Oromo we hate.