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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Horus » 14 Feb 2024, 13:30

Somaliland is in the process of building its own state of the art Air Control system. In fact they have issued a bid to companies to do the project. This is totally expected as one's own sovereign entity. I am sure Ethiopia is helping in this effort as Ethiopian and UAR airlines are those immediately affected by the dispute.

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Somaliman » 14 Feb 2024, 14:08

Read what you're posting.
No change in the management of airspace, and the federal government is in charge of it - says Somalia’s civil aviation authority in an apparent response to a statement made earlier by Somaliland civil aviation and airports authority.

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Wordpad » 14 Feb 2024, 15:03

Somalia has total control of its airspace. 8)

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Horus » 14 Feb 2024, 15:11

Wordpad wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:03
Somalia has total control of its airspace. 8)
We don't need to argue here as events will confirm the fact. Soon Hargeisa airport will have its own air control tower.

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Abere » 14 Feb 2024, 15:13

Somaliland closed her airspace for Somalia - this make difficult for flights to Mogadishu unless all flights use Kenyan Airspace or get permission to use Ethiopian airspace. That is why it is critically important for Somalia to recognize Somaliland before either UK or Ethiopia gives recognition. Better to face the inevitable reality now than later.

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Somaliman » 14 Feb 2024, 15:32

Horus wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:11
Wordpad wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:03
Somalia has total control of its airspace. 8)
We don't need to argue here as events will confirm the fact. Soon Hargeisa airport will have its own air control tower.






FYI, airspace control and management is different from air control tower air traffic control. They've two distinct function and powers.

All airports have some sort of air traffic control tower.

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Somaliman » 14 Feb 2024, 15:36

Abere wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:13
Somaliland closed her airspace for Somalia - this make difficult for flights to Mogadishu unless all flights use Kenyan Airspace or get permission to use Ethiopian airspace. That is why it is critically important for Somalia to recognize Somaliland before either UK or Ethiopia gives recognition. Better to face the inevitable reality now than later.






Bullsh.it.

Somaliland cannot close an airspace on which it has no authority or control whatsoever.

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Horus » 14 Feb 2024, 15:44

Abere wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:13
Somaliland closed her airspace for Somalia - this make difficult for flights to Mogadishu unless all flights use Kenyan Airspace or get permission to use Ethiopian airspace. That is why it is critically important for Somalia to recognize Somaliland before either UK or Ethiopia gives recognition. Better to face the inevitable reality now than later.
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አዲስ ሚዲያ የሚባለው ልጅ ዜና የሚያገኘው ከውጭ ጉዳይ ይመስለኛል ። እሱ ትላንት ስለ ሚኒስትር አጽቀስላሴና፣ እስራኤልና ግብጽ ሲያወራ ያለው የእስራኤል አምባሳደር ለኢትዮጵያ (ቤተ እስራኤላዊ ነው) አለ ብሎ ያወራው እስራኤል የሱማሌላንዱን ስምምነት ትደግፋለች ግን በይፋ እንዲነገር አይፈልጉም። አዲሱ የውጭ ሚኒስትር ከእንግሊዝም ከእስራኤልም ጋር በጥብቅ እየተጋገረ ነው ብሏል ። በራፋ ፍልስጤሞች ዙሪያ የተነሳው የግብጽና እስራኤል ኢትዮጵያን ጠቅሟል ነው የሚለው ። እስራኤል የአፍሪካ አንድነት ተመልካች አባል ነች እስቲ ሰሞኑን አዲሳባ በሚደረገው ስብሰባ የሚታየውን ድራማ እ
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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Right » 14 Feb 2024, 15:53

Better to face the inevitable reality now than
Somalia is acting foolishly. This is not the 60s.
Somalia should look at its long term interests. Having a good relationship with Somali Land and Ethiopia will help for the survival of Somalia. Otherwise it will be further ravaged by war and terrorism.
Why are Africans devoid of rational thinking.

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Horus » 14 Feb 2024, 16:00

Somaliman wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:32
Horus wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:11
Wordpad wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:03
Somalia has total control of its airspace. 8)
We don't need to argue here as events will confirm the fact. Soon Hargeisa airport will have its own air control tower.






FYI, airspace control and management is different from air control tower air traffic control. They've two distinct function and powers.

All airports have some sort of air traffic control tower.
I know that; I don't mean controlling landing- take off traffic control but communicating (radar system) with plans within Somaliland air space and securing it. Neither Somalia nor Somaliland has an airforce to protect their air space by means of a fighter jet or a missile, well not yet. So far it is all legality.

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Jikaar » 14 Feb 2024, 16:10

Horus wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 13:30
Somaliland is in the process of building its own state of the art Air Control system. In fact they have issued a bid to companies to do the project. This is totally expected as one's own sovereign entity. I am sure Ethiopia is helping in this effort as Ethiopian and UAR airlines are those immediately affected by the dispute.
So far we only took necessary steps against Qatar airways and Turkish airways. These too countries are collaborating with our enemies. Even Ethiopia should never trust them.

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Wordpad » 14 Feb 2024, 16:11

Horus wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:11
Wordpad wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:03
Somalia has total control of its airspace. 8)
We don't need to argue here as events will confirm the fact. Soon Hargeisa airport will have its own air control tower.
Gurage donkey it is always soon and ifs with you. How about here and now.

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Somaliman » 14 Feb 2024, 16:15

Horus wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 16:00
Somaliman wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:32
Horus wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:11
Wordpad wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:03
Somalia has total control of its airspace. 8)
We don't need to argue here as events will confirm the fact. Soon Hargeisa airport will have its own air control tower.






FYI, airspace control and management is different from air control tower air traffic control. They've two distinct function and powers.

All airports have some sort of air traffic control tower.
I know that; I don't mean controlling landing- take off traffic control but communicating (radar system) with plans within Somaliland air space and securing it. Neither Somalia nor Somaliland has an airforce to protect their air space by means of a fighter jet or a missile, well not yet. So far it is all legality.





See, you're a Galla baboon who only knows violence.

No need a fighter jet of missile, as there's something stronger than these. It's called infringement of airspace sovereignty. When a state's airspace sovereignty is infringed upon, there are drastic international sanctions and ramifications.

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Wordpad » 14 Feb 2024, 16:15

Abere wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:13
Somaliland closed her airspace for Somalia - this make difficult for flights to Mogadishu unless all flights use Kenyan Airspace or get permission to use Ethiopian airspace. That is why it is critically important for Somalia to recognize Somaliland before either UK or Ethiopia gives recognition. Better to face the inevitable reality now than later.
Another Gurage donkey. Now you want us (Somalia) to recognise Somali land after PM Abiy refused.
Tiny Gurage zone have more chance of breakaway from Ethiopia. 8)

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Wordpad » 14 Feb 2024, 16:20

Right wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:53
Better to face the inevitable reality now than
Somalia is acting foolishly. This is not the 60s.
Somalia should look at its long term interests. Having a good relationship with Somali Land and Ethiopia will help for the survival of Somalia. Otherwise it will be further ravaged by war and terrorism.
Why are Africans devoid of rational thinking.
Somalia is powerful and intelligent. Otherwise Abiy and the Galla's would have had their way.
If Abiy wants access to Somali sea than he has to give Somalia the Somali region of Ethiopia. Than we would give Abiy and Oromo's access to the sea. 8)

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Horus » 14 Feb 2024, 16:26

Wordpad wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 16:11
Horus wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:11
Wordpad wrote:
14 Feb 2024, 15:03
Somalia has total control of its airspace. 8)
We don't need to argue here as events will confirm the fact. Soon Hargeisa airport will have its own air control tower.
Gurage donkey it is always soon and ifs with you. How about here and now.
Mr. Eritrea,
Horus is a rational animal. If you are asking me why I support Somaliland, it is because they are a more reliable economic partners than Eritrea. Eritrea has been nothing but a problem for Ethiopia. Ethiopia is a trading nation, we are a trading people and sea ports are vital to our existence as a modern trading people. We have a clear rational economic interest in Somaliland's ports, they have a clear economic interests in Ethiopian market and resource. We have centuries old historical and religious connections and we have no political baggage between us. Eritrea on the other hand works tirelessly to weaken Ethiopia by collaborating with her historical enemies at every opportunity. Only a stupid Ethiopia regime would trust Eritrea as a true friend of Ethiopia. In a sense, Eritrea is still at war with Ethiopia This is the sad truth, face it.

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Re: SOMALILAND BATTLES SOMALIA OVER THE AIRSPACE CONTROL

Post by Abere » 14 Feb 2024, 16:26


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ትናንሽ ጋኖች ትልልቅ ጆሮዎች አላቸው ይባላል። ትክክል ነው - እንደዚህ ያሉት ናቸው ብዙ ጉዳይ የሚፈጸምባቸው። በእርግጥም ሶማሊላንድ በኦፊሴል ዕውቅና ለመስጠት በርካታ አገሮች እንዳሰፈሰፉ ይሰማል። በተለይ ደግሞ የግብፅ እና የአንዳንድ የግብጽ ተላላኪ አፍሪካ ቀንዶች አላርፍ ባይነት ለሶማሊላድ መልካም አጋጣሚ ፈጥሮላታል።

1ኛ) ሶማሊላንድ በጎ የኢኮኖሚ እና የድሞክራሲ የሰላም መረጋጋት የቀጠናው ሞደል ነች። የእርሷን ነጻነት የሚጻረሩ አገራት አንዳቸውም ዲሞክራቲክ እና ሰላማዊ አይደሉም - ግብጽን ጨምሮ።

2ኛ) በሙሉ ነጻነቷን የሚቃወሙ አገራት እራሳቸው ቀኝ ግዝ ናቸው ለእራሳቸው የሚፈልጉትን ነጻነት ለሶማሊላን የመከልከል የህግ ይሁን የሞራል ብቃት የላቸውምም ሶማሊላንድ በአል ሻባብ ሶማልያ ስር ትሁን የሚል ዕብድ ብቻ ነው። ዲክታተሮች ደግሞ ዕብዶች ናቸው።

አሁን ሶማሊላንድ የአየር ክልሏን ተቆጣጠረች የሚለው ዜና የሚጠበቅ እንጅየሚገርም አይደለም። ሶማልያ አስተዋይ መሪ ቢኖራት መተባበር እንጅ መቃወም አትችልም። አይጠቅማትም

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14 Feb 2024, 15:44
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አዲስ ሚዲያ የሚባለው ልጅ ዜና የሚያገኘው ከውጭ ጉዳይ ይመስለኛል ። እሱ ትላንት ስለ ሚኒስትር አጽቀስላሴና፣ እስራኤልና ግብጽ ሲያወራ ያለው የእስራኤል አምባሳደር ለኢትዮጵያ (ቤተ እስራኤላዊ ነው) አለ ብሎ ያወራው እስራኤል የሱማሌላንዱን ስምምነት ትደግፋለች ግን በይፋ እንዲነገር አይፈልጉም። አዲሱ የውጭ ሚኒስትር ከእንግሊዝም ከእስራኤልም ጋር በጥብቅ እየተጋገረ ነው ብሏል ። በራፋ ፍልስጤሞች ዙሪያ የተነሳው የግብጽና እስራኤል ኢትዮጵያን ጠቅሟል ነው የሚለው ። እስራኤል የአፍሪካ አንድነት ተመልካች አባል ነች እስቲ ሰሞኑን አዲሳባ በሚደረገው ስብሰባ የሚታየውን ድራማ እ
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