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How come with all the challenges it faced, Eritrea's life expectancy is higher than 3/4 of African countries

Post by sesame » 13 Feb 2024, 06:44

Eritreans have not been allowed over the past 30 years to unleash their extraordinary potential to work hard and reach their goals. Their self-reliance principle was targeted by Western imperialists and the crabby Agames who consider their neighbour's gain to be their loss. But despite the enormous odds and obstacles imposed on them, Eritreans have managed to raise their life expectancy to be higher than most African countries.
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Re: How come with all the challenges it faced, Eritrea's life expectancy is higher than 3/4 of African countries

Post by Selam/ » 13 Feb 2024, 10:16

What’s your point? Cuba’s life expectancy is 77 & North Korea’s 74. Does that change the fact that their people live in economic misery?

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Re: How come with all the challenges it faced, Eritrea's life expectancy is higher than 3/4 of African countries

Post by Abere » 13 Feb 2024, 11:16

Please Do Not forget the saying also, Statistics lie and lairs use statistics. When it refers to African countries, especially, figures are completely cooked up. They are sliced, diced and cooked in the dictators kitchen - dictators love to torture figures to scream lies. The reality on the ground is completely different and nightmarish. For instance, the UN generated a computer model based life expectancy for Somalia at 58 years - which is modest, but we know that life is most precarious in this Al Shabab infested part of HoA. I also noted 67 years of expectancy for Ethiopia which translates an infant born in Ethiopia expected lives 67 years on average. I do not trust that because an Amhara baby born in Wolega cannot even celebrate his first year, just as an example. Thus that is inaccurate, the UN simply hypothetically input assumptions under different scenario and generate a junk figure. So, the figures you relying for Eritrea is a junk figure not depicting the truth.

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Re: How come with all the challenges it faced, Eritrea's life expectancy is higher than 3/4 of African countries

Post by Misraq » 13 Feb 2024, 12:25

Remitance money buys the food and medicine. Half of Eritreas population lives abroad and sends money back. is that not right?


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Re: How come with all the challenges it faced, Eritrea's life expectancy is higher than 3/4 of African countries

Post by Selam/ » 13 Feb 2024, 13:17

Agreed!

First, socio-economic statistics taken in Africa are usually inaccurate. They vary from year to year depending on who conducted them and under what political conditions.
Second, a bare statistical data without a context is misleading and could be used for cheap number games as witnessed in this forum.

Abere wrote:
13 Feb 2024, 11:16
Please Do Not forget the saying also, Statistics lie and lairs use statistics. When it refers to African countries, especially, figures are completely cooked up. They are sliced, diced and cooked in the dictators kitchen - dictators love to torture figures to scream lies. The reality on the ground is completely different and nightmarish. For instance, the UN generated a computer model based life expectancy for Somalia at 58 years - which is modest, but we know that life is most precarious in this Al Shabab infested part of HoA. I also noted 67 years of expectancy for Ethiopia which translates an infant born in Ethiopia expected lives 67 years on average. I do not trust that because an Amhara baby born in Wolega cannot even celebrate his first year, just as an example. Thus that is inaccurate, the UN simply hypothetically input assumptions under different scenario and generate a junk figure. So, the figures you relying for Eritrea is a junk figure not depicting the truth.

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Re: How come with all the challenges it faced, Eritrea's life expectancy is higher than 3/4 of African countries

Post by Selam/ » 13 Feb 2024, 13:30

While I have no interest to talk about the fallacy of your statistics, I will flip the context of your numbers on your face.

A higher average life expectancy of a poor country could indicate that a large scale youth migration is occurring. How do we prove if that applies to Eritrea? Check the population growth of the countries that you listed. If there is a stagnation in population growth, then what I said above applies perfectly to that country.

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Re: How come with all the challenges it faced, Eritrea's life expectancy is higher than 3/4 of African countries

Post by eritrea » 13 Feb 2024, 22:19

Misraq wrote:
13 Feb 2024, 12:25
Remitance money buys the food and medicine. Half of Eritreas population lives abroad and sends money back. is that not right?

Remittance in itself does not make much difference when it comes to education or health statistics. And especially the mortality of children and women.

It has to do with political policies and priorities.

To the benefit of the Eritrean independence movements, education and public health have always been prioritized both during the ELF and EPLF era.

When Misraq often writes about Eritreans hate against Ethiopians, I am usually stunned. Because such hatred has never existed and doesn’t exist today either. For the simple reason, because no one has politically conducted such kind of foolish and counter productive campaign in Eritrea but is usually normal in Ethiopia.

In Eritrea, great focus is placed on geopolitical great power politics, which is usually the determining factor in our region.

The rulers in Ethiopia for the exception of Emperor Tedros have been and still are the servants of outside forces. They serve the interests of their masters more than the needs of their people. the symptoms of this are seen in their contempt and total disrespect for their people and their needs.

It is for this reason that we have been waiting all along for you to wake up from your slumber and address the problem.

It is also for that reason that wherever schools and health centers are opened, Ethiopians have always been welcome and freely provided services there. In Sudan especially in Qadarif, majority of students were Ethiopians of Amharic and Tigrain origin. Most were actually from Tigray. But the school were managed by Eritreans and all the teachers were Eritreans as well.

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Re: How come with all the challenges it faced, Eritrea's life expectancy is higher than 3/4 of African countries

Post by quindibu » 13 Feb 2024, 23:06

No one takes responsibility for this kind of behavior.....They don't understand it's a collective shame. Everybody points his/her finger at others, at this group or that ethnicity........You would think these people should have been the last people to mock anyone, but......Something is fundamentally wrong!

May God Save The Innocents!


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Re: How come with all the challenges it faced, Eritrea's life expectancy is higher than 3/4 of African countries

Post by Selam/ » 14 Feb 2024, 09:13

My friend
Don’t confuse ER tribal idiots with folks on the ground, who in either country are humble & only worry about their daily lives
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eritrea wrote:
13 Feb 2024, 22:19
Misraq wrote:
13 Feb 2024, 12:25
Remitance money buys the food and medicine. Half of Eritreas population lives abroad and sends money back. is that not right?

Remittance in itself does not make much difference when it comes to education or health statistics. And especially the mortality of children and women.

It has to do with political policies and priorities.

To the benefit of the Eritrean independence movements, education and public health have always been prioritized both during the ELF and EPLF era.

When Misraq often writes about Eritreans hate against Ethiopians, I am usually stunned. Because such hatred has never existed and doesn’t exist today either. For the simple reason, because no one has politically conducted such kind of foolish and counter productive campaign in Eritrea but is usually normal in Ethiopia.

In Eritrea, great focus is placed on geopolitical great power politics, which is usually the determining factor in our region.

The rulers in Ethiopia for the exception of Emperor Tedros have been and still are the servants of outside forces. They serve the interests of their masters more than the needs of their people. the symptoms of this are seen in their contempt and total disrespect for their people and their needs.

It is for this reason that we have been waiting all along for you to wake up from your slumber and address the problem.

It is also for that reason that wherever schools and health centers are opened, Ethiopians have always been welcome and freely provided services there. In Sudan especially in Qadarif, majority of students were Ethiopians of Amharic and Tigrain origin. Most were actually from Tigray. But the school were managed by Eritreans and all the teachers were Eritreans as well.

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Re: How come with all the challenges it faced, Eritrea's life expectancy is higher than 3/4 of African countries

Post by Abere » 14 Feb 2024, 10:54

I think there is one thing that has to be clear here: How is life expectancy calculated? What does its population age structure look like; that is, is the general population heavily dominated by young age population or is the population dominated old or elderly population? As we know, countries with large volume of aging population (but low youth) have higher life expectancy; on the other hand, those developing regions (with heavy child dependency ratio or heavy number of young population) have lower level of life expectancy. The question is , does Eritrea have high volume of aging population but fewer number of youth, because of the so-called optimal gain in "life expectancy"?

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