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[molover]

Can someone Explained thank you.

[sesame]

Can you define what Habesha means first?

[Horus]

ሃበሻ ወይም አበሻ ማለት ቀይ ሕዝብ ማለት ነው ። በጥንታዊ የሴም ቃል ብሻ ማለት ቀይ ማለት ነው ። ልክ ዛሬ አንድ ሰው ቀይ ነው የምንለው ማለት ነው ። ቀይ (Red) ሳይሆን እሳት የሚመስል ቀይ ማለት ነው ። ይህን የሴም ቃል (ለምሳሌ በጉራጌኛ የሴም ቋንቋና በአረብኛም) ብሻ ቀይ ማለት ነው ። ግሪኮች ይህን እሳት የሚመስል የሚለው ብሻ ፊት ያላቸውን ሕዝቦች ኢቲኦፖስ አሏቸው፣ አረቦች ሃባሽ ሲሉን ፈረንጅ ደሞ አቢሺኒያ (አቢሺያ) አሉን ። ስለዚህ አበሻ ማለት እንደ ወረደ ኢትዮጵያዊ ማለት ሲሆን ትርጉሙ ቀይ መልክ ያለው ሕዝብ ማለት ነው ።

[Temt]

Can someone Explained thank you.

Can you define what Habesha means first?

like sesame asked, the term Habesha is loosely given to Ethiopia, and Eritrea, primarily for the convenience of a subject in mind. For example, some Ethiopians are quick to identify Eritrea as Habesha when their intention is their phony claim of the Red Sea. They also claim all Ethiopians to be Habesha, again, because of their greedy owning of what they term the "Southern peoples". So, you can see that the term Habesha is placed anywhere they wanted to place for the sole purpose of ascertain territorial ambitions that do not belong to them.
My understanding of the term "Habesha" (Habesh in Arabic) is meant to apply to Eritrea and the northern peoples of Ethiopia (Afars, Tegaru, and Amhara). The term "Habesha" does not include the Oromos, Ogadenis, and the myriad of southern peoples whom various Ethiopian kings forcefully occupied.

[Jikaar]

We Somalis believe that habeshas are there amhara , tigray and the Eritreans. The Oromos and afar are not.

[Horus]

Can someone Explained thank you.

Can you define what Habesha means first?

like sesame asked, the term Habesha is loosely given to Ethiopia, and Eritrea, primarily for the convenience of a subject in mind. For example, some Ethiopians are quick to identify Eritrea as Habesha when their intention is their phony claim of the Red Sea. They also claim all Ethiopians to be Habesha, again, because of their greedy owning of what they term the "Southern peoples". So, you can see that the term Habesha is placed anywhere they wanted to place for the sole purpose of ascertain territorial ambitions that do not belong to them.
My understanding of the term "Habesha" (Habesh in Arabic) is meant to apply to Eritrea and the northern peoples of Ethiopia (Afars, Tegaru, and Amhara". The term "Habesha" does not include the Oromos, Ogadenis, and the myriad of southern peoples whom various Ethiopian kings forcefully occupied.

Temt
You don't need to politicize the name Abesha or Habesha. Yes, the word 'besha' means 'red' in Arabic. But it also means' 'red' in Ethiopic Semitics. As I described above it literally means 'red faced people' what the Greeks translated as Aethiopos ' burned face' people. Yes in ancient times, it referred to mostly northerners but the term 'Ethiopians' covered a very large part of ancient northern Africa and today Abesha literally means Ethiopia & Eritrea.

[Dark Energy]

Oldie Guragie Horus,


Ethiopia is a Greek word for the color black. Habesha or Abbisinian is reference for Tigrigna, Tigre and Amharic speakers. which has a reference to the Axumite kingdom. Your Guragie behind is not part of that.

[Mesob]

Real Habesha are not Arab slaves or Abeed who hate their own African languages, identity, history and way of life.

Can someone Explained thank you.

[Horus]

Oldie Guragie Horus,


Ethiopia is a Greek word for the color black. Habesha or Abbisinian is reference for Tigrigna, Tigre and Amharic speakers. which has a reference to the Axumite kingdom. Your Guragie behind is not part of that.

አንተ መሃይም ምነው እኩያህን ብትቀላቀል

the Greek word for black is marvos
in Geek 'thi' means burn
'ops' means face
ai thiops means burned face - a red brown color

idiot! I know you are incapable of learning simple things such as this

[TesfaNews]

Real Habesha are Ethio Eritrean highlanders of the highlands of Eritrea and Ethiopia that have a common culture language and phenotype.

Just like outsiders label Chinese and Japanese "Mongoliods"

[tarik]

Can someone Explained thank you.

FACT:Habesha z word came from an ottoman word or name "PASHA" aka Pasha
Honorary title of the highest civil and military officials in the Ottoman Empire. HA- PASHA. Ha means joy or happiness. So HA-PASHA MEANS HAPPY TOP OFFICIAL.
Pasha - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
› wiki › Pasha
Pasha (Ottoman Turkish: پاشا; Turkish: paşa; Arabic: باشا, romanized: basha) was a high rank in the Ottoman political and military system, typically granted to governors, generals, dignitaries, and others. Pasha was also one of the highest titles in the 20th-century Kingdom of Egypt and it was also used in Morocco in the 20th century, where it denoted a regional official or governor of a district.

[Fiyameta]

Can someone Explained thank you.

Habesha is a derogatory term in Arabic that means "Niǵǵer." The semantics changed over time from Habesha to Habeshinia, and then to Abyssinia.

[Temt]

Can someone Explained thank you.

Habesha is a derogatory term in Arabic that means "Niǵǵer." The semantics changed over time from Habesha to Habeshinia, and then to Abyssinia.

Do you mean like "Habesh Hanesh"? I believe it means "Habesha is a snake"???

[Misraq]

Skunni temt & skunni moreover,

I am up for a new term that should differentiate us from you scumbags. we thought we will never see your ugly face after 1991 and we don't know why you keep coming to show us. Please stay where you are. Did nt come to our country, our events, our forum ....etc as we don't show in yours. እረ ተፋቱን። አቴንሽን ሆርስ

[Zack]

Habesha are Amhara Tigray Tigrinya gurage argoba .. in reality Highland Eritrea and Highland Ethiopia are the habesha . though the Eritreans get offended by this term i have seen Eritreans that hate this term some eritrean once told me aslo after independence Eritrea removed the term Habesha al together he said it was a close conotation that was used by Ethiopians to claim Eritrean peoples.


Affars are Cushites so are Beja saho related to Somalis

The Harari are semites semetic speakers but since they dont have anything to do with Christian Habesha , they also refer not be called that . or Adari , they feel closer to the Somalis and afars they shared a state with for centuries


Dr Zackovich

[TesfaNews]

Bro Turks recently came to Africa

Arabs have been calling them Habesha since 6th century

also when I talk to eritrean kids 90% of them identify as habesha (especially Orthodox (Akele, Serae, Hamasien) you can find them following habesha pages like @Selam_Central the exception are of course Afar-Nara-Kanuma who don't feel habesha _ and Tigreyit, Bilen and Saho are somewhat Habesha not fully

again Habesha are in the highland once you reach the low lands you cant find habesha

Sudan itself is a Arab name and yet you don't shame the people of Sudan

Can someone Explained thank you.

FACT:Habesha z word came from an ottoman word or name "PASHA" aka Pasha
Honorary title of the highest civil and military officials in the Ottoman Empire. HA- PASHA. Ha means joy or happiness. So HA-PASHA MEANS HAPPY TOP OFFICIAL.
Pasha - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
› wiki › Pasha
Pasha (Ottoman Turkish: پاشا; Turkish: paşa; Arabic: باشا, romanized: basha) was a high rank in the Ottoman political and military system, typically granted to governors, generals, dignitaries, and others. Pasha was also one of the highest titles in the 20th-century Kingdom of Egypt and it was also used in Morocco in the 20th century, where it denoted a regional official or governor of a district.

[Mesob]

Until recently, the older Saho, Bilen and Tigrayit (Tigre) in Eritrea considered themselves the real Habeshas. This is fully documented by the Italian social anthropologists who conducted the field research.
If you have been among the Saho Muslims during a Mewlid holiday celebration, they have a beautiful song in Saho that they sing in unison praising the Habesha kings for providing refuge to Mohammed's family, allies and companions. In the song, there is chorus that ends in Habesha! Habesha! Habesha!
To them, the song is praising their ancestors.
The only exception are the Kunama, Nara, and probably the Afars close to the coast.

Bro Turks recently came to Africa

Arabs have been calling them Habesha since 6th century

also when I talk to eritrean kids 90% of them identify as habesha (especially Orthodox (Akele, Serae, Hamasien) you can find them following habesha pages like @Selam_Central the exception are of course Afar-Nara-Kanuma who don't feel habesha _ and Tigreyit, Bilen and Saho are somewhat Habesha not fully

again Habesha are in the highland once you reach the low lands you cant find habesha

Sudan itself is a Arab name and yet you don't shame the people of Sudan

Can someone Explained thank you.

FACT:Habesha z word came from an ottoman word or name "PASHA" aka Pasha
Honorary title of the highest civil and military officials in the Ottoman Empire. HA- PASHA. Ha means joy or happiness. So HA-PASHA MEANS HAPPY TOP OFFICIAL.
Pasha - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
› wiki › Pasha
Pasha (Ottoman Turkish: پاشا; Turkish: paşa; Arabic: باشا, romanized: basha) was a high rank in the Ottoman political and military system, typically granted to governors, generals, dignitaries, and others. Pasha was also one of the highest titles in the 20th-century Kingdom of Egypt and it was also used in Morocco in the 20th century, where it denoted a regional official or governor of a district.

[Zack]

Until recently, the older Saho, Bilen and Tigrayit (Tigre) in Eritrea considered themselves the real Habeshas. This fully documented by the Italian social anthropologists who conducted the field research.
If you have been among Saho during a Mewlid holiday celebration, they have a beautiful song in Saho that they sing in unison praising the Habesha kings for providing refuge to Mohammed's family, allies and companions. In the song, there is chorus that ends in Habesha! Habesha! Habesha!
To them, the song is praising their ancestors.

Bro Turks recently came to Africa

Arabs have been calling them Habesha since 6th century

also when I talk to eritrean kids 90% of them identify as habesha (especially Orthodox (Akele, Serae, Hamasien) you can find them following habesha pages like @Selam_Central the exception are of course Afar-Nara-Kanuma who don't feel habesha _ and Tigreyit, Bilen and Saho are somewhat Habesha not fully

again Habesha are in the highland once you reach the low lands you cant find habesha

Sudan itself is a Arab name and yet you don't shame the people of Sudan

Can someone Explained thank you.

FACT:Habesha z word came from an ottoman word or name "PASHA" aka Pasha
Honorary title of the highest civil and military officials in the Ottoman Empire. HA- PASHA. Ha means joy or happiness. So HA-PASHA MEANS HAPPY TOP OFFICIAL.
Pasha - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
› wiki › Pasha
Pasha (Ottoman Turkish: پاشا; Turkish: paşa; Arabic: باشا, romanized: basha) was a high rank in the Ottoman political and military system, typically granted to governors, generals, dignitaries, and others. Pasha was also one of the highest titles in the 20th-century Kingdom of Egypt and it was also used in Morocco in the 20th century, where it denoted a regional official or governor of a district.

How are saho habesha how can they have habesha ancestry at all are u saying the habesha were original Cushites history habesha are hab asha or are the ancient people from Habashat Yemen and the saho are indegenous to Africa and Eritrea

The Tigre the lowland Muslims are how ever an admxiture of Himyar and ancient Sabeans they used to be orthodox though before but now alhamdulilah have all embraced the true religion of Islam



Dr Zackovich

[Horus]

Can someone Explained thank you.

FACT:Habesha z word came from an ottoman word or name "PASHA" aka Pasha
Honorary title of the highest civil and military officials in the Ottoman Empire. HA- PASHA. Ha means joy or happiness. So HA-PASHA MEANS HAPPY TOP OFFICIAL.
Pasha - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
› wiki › Pasha
Pasha (Ottoman Turkish: پاشا; Turkish: paşa; Arabic: باشا, romanized: basha) was a high rank in the Ottoman political and military system, typically granted to governors, generals, dignitaries, and others. Pasha was also one of the highest titles in the 20th-century Kingdom of Egypt and it was also used in Morocco in the 20th century, where it denoted a regional official or governor of a district.

tarik,
totally wrong. pasha is not Turkish word, it Farsi or Iranian word. It comes from the word Sha (lord, King) and prior to that it comes from the root pati (lord) , poti ( power) as in the word potential, potent etc. Habesha has nothing to do with power. It has everything to the skin color of people.

Besha means Red in Arabic as well as Guragegna (a language that is very conservative & old. The Aarbic word al-besha. Actually there a place called Al-Besha on Nile river and it means The Red Land.

[Mesob]

Habeshaness is a fluid, not a static identity. It is like borders that expand and contract depending on many factors. There are Afro Semetic people from the north Tigrayt speakers as Habeshas past the Afro-Semetic Guragie people in the center who may be Christians or Muslims, Amhara or Tigrayan Jeberti Muslims, Agaw Kushetic people in Ethiopia and Agaw Bilen in Eritrea.
Some former Habesha people along the periphery may not identify themselves now as as Habeshas, along the Sudanese border. The are people in southern India that still identify themselves as Habesha.
There are clusters of people in the Arab world who call themselves as Habeshi, not as ethnic but as sub-ethnic group because they believe they are originally from Abyssinia.
This way or that way, there is a culture, skin tone or colour, way of life, tradition, ancestry ... that can be called Habesha that belongs to the Habesha world, as there are Europeans or Ferenji, Arab, Chinese, Native American world ... to some extent.
The fact remains, the core of the Habesha identity is the old Abyssinia, mostly Ethiopia and to some extent Eritrea.

Mesob wrote:

Until recently, the older Saho, Bilen and Tigrayit (Tigre) in Eritrea considered themselves the real Habeshas. This is fully documented by the Italian social anthropologists who conducted the field research.
If you have been among the Saho Muslims during a Mewlid holiday celebration, they have a beautiful song in Saho that they sing in unison praising the Habesha kings for providing refuge to Mohammed's family, allies and companions. In the song, there is chorus that ends in Habesha! Habesha! Habesha!
To them, the song is praising their ancestors.
The only exception are the Kunama, Nara, and probably the Afars close to the coast.