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Re: Ethiopia Says It's Open To Dialogue Over Somaliland Deal

Post by Zack » 24 Jan 2024, 20:12

Somaliman wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 19:30
kerenite wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 18:35
Somaliman wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 15:26
kerenite wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 14:14
Just a question,

Why the somali government does not kick out the "Ethiopian peace keeping forces" from somalia?

What are they scared of? Al shebab? Well al shebab has the same stance with the regime in mogadishu. It is better for the regime to negotiate with al shebab because the sovereignty of their country is in danger.

Having said that....

The 7th king of Ethiopia won't ever dare to attack somalia while he received the message of Egypt. He knows, any grave error, Egypt will bomb the hell out of Ethiopia. Of course, their main target will be the GRD and they have the backing of the international community.

Finally,

Have you noticed something peculiar a week ago? Well the egyptians are digging a 4 Km canal in their territory, as a precaution in case if they bomb the dam, the new canal will diminish the danger which the floods may cause.






Kerenite,

All Somalis without any exception, including Somali Kenyans and Somali Djiboutians have been calling on the Somali President to kick the Ethiopian troops out of the country. But he's not doing so, nether is he explaining why, as he's hiding from the Somali public, despite being under public scrutiny.

In addition, the Ethiopian troops, like other foreign troops in Somalia, are not fighting or engaging Al Shabab any more. They're just enjoying getting paid more than five times of what their respective governments pay them. These fuc.kers are claiming to be peacekeepers while there's no peace to keep in Somalia, as there are no two factions fighting each other. Al Shabab is a project for the West, particularly the US, which wants to drag out its spurious money making "War on Terror".

The US has never been serious about fighting Al Shabab, the same way it was not serious about fighting ISIS in Syria, as they kept claiming to have been bombing ISIS, while they were just bombing Bashar Al Assad's forces, until the Russians jumped in and had bombed the sh.it outta ISIS.

The US has been claiming to have been bombing Al Shabab and killing score of Al Shabab commanders for the past 14 years or so. It's the US that wants to keep these troops in Somalia to prolong its money making business - War on terror.


It's the Somali forces that have seriously been fighting Al Shabab for the past couple of years. Ethiopian troops are mostly stationed on the suburbs of towns and do nothing but wait for Al Shabab to ambush them and kill scores of these Ethiopians fuc.kers.

The US doesn't want to seriously fight Al Shabab, neither does it want anyone else to do so. It just wants to prolong its fake war on terror. After all, it's the US that has created Al Shabab, Al Qaida, ISIS, the Talibans, etc.


I don't know anything about Egypt digging canals. Nevertheless, Trumps is coming back and Egypt won't hesitate to bomb the sh.it outta the GERD and level it to the ground. Amen.
Somaliman,

Somali brothers, be careful be cautious, your sovereignty is in danger. I tell you:

If you allow ethios which has over 120 million inhabitants to own a 20 or 30 km in your land then expect there will be a huge change of demography, millions of ethios will settle in your land. They will swallow your land and your next generation will be the minority in their own land.

We eritreans are experiencing similar problem back home, we have those who call themselves brigade nhamedu, their main aim is the tigray-tigrigni crap, they publicly tell eritreans and tigrayans are one, they encourage tigrayans to settle in Eritrea.

Mind you, according to their wish half of poor tigrians from the tigray region has to settle in Eritrea and they encourage them but to no avail, eris are farsighted hence those tigray-tigrigni crap proponents have zero chance.

If we eri allow them, then the demography of eritrea will change and it won't be to the benefit of any eri.





You got the picture very clearly, but sadly, some fuc.kers in the breakaway region, who are obsessed with a recognition and who are even ready to ship all their women to Ethiopia in return for a recognition that won't add anything to their fuc.king lives, do not see a fraction of what you foresee, which is a reality fast-forwarded. Could you imagine if those Galla in Somaliland have lately been openly claiming (even on the telly) that Galla is a Somali clan and that they're Somalis - I swear to the almighty God this is true.

Ethiopia would easily relocate just five million of fuc.king Galla to Somaliland and make Somalis a minority in their own land in no time. Not only would the demography change, but also, the boundary and border between Ethiopia and Somalia, as they would populate Oromo from the coast all the way to Ethiopia, ultimately making Somaliland part of Ethiopia by simply changing the demography; thus, the border would be pushed further down to Somalia, and we won't have any border with Djibouti, as the coastal land and the area that would be occupied by Ethiopia would be between Somalia and Djibouti.

Ethiopian project is way bigger than mere port and naval base. It's to annex a Somali land by changing the demography and finally changing also the borders and boundaries. But the fuc.kers in Somaliland who are high on khat 24/7 do not realise this., albeit they would be the prime victims.

This project of annexing this portion of Somalia is not new. Menelik and Selassie used to parrot this openly.


What i dont understand what they think they will achieve with recognititon from Ethiopia , other countries will not follow suit , and last but not least doesn Ethiopia already recognise them they can travel with their passport to addis Abbaba. they have diplomatic office in Hargeisa they get scholarships from Ethiopia. They enrol in their military schools in Harar. What other recognition are the waiting for . if Ethiopia says and makes an statement we recognise As an Independent state. Doesnt mean u will enter the UNITED NATIONS. Its just a word on a piece of paper is that worth the sea. or a share in Ethiopian airlines. with the danger that in 50 years they wish to change the demographics anu ma fahnin wali faiidada.



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Re: Ethiopia Says It's Open To Dialogue Over Somaliland Deal

Post by Zack » 24 Jan 2024, 20:16

kerenite wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 18:35
Somaliman wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 15:26
kerenite wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 14:14
Just a question,

Why the somali government does not kick out the "Ethiopian peace keeping forces" from somalia?

What are they scared of? Al shebab? Well al shebab has the same stance with the regime in mogadishu. It is better for the regime to negotiate with al shebab because the sovereignty of their country is in danger.

Having said that....

The 7th king of Ethiopia won't ever dare to attack somalia while he received the message of Egypt. He knows, any grave error, Egypt will bomb the hell out of Ethiopia. Of course, their main target will be the GRD and they have the backing of the international community.

Finally,

Have you noticed something peculiar a week ago? Well the egyptians are digging a 4 Km canal in their territory, as a precaution in case if they bomb the dam, the new canal will diminish the danger which the floods may cause.






Kerenite,

All Somalis without any exception, including Somali Kenyans and Somali Djiboutians have been calling on the Somali President to kick the Ethiopian troops out of the country. But he's not doing so, nether is he explaining why, as he's hiding from the Somali public, despite being under public scrutiny.

In addition, the Ethiopian troops, like other foreign troops in Somalia, are not fighting or engaging Al Shabab any more. They're just enjoying getting paid more than five times of what their respective governments pay them. These fuc.kers are claiming to be peacekeepers while there's no peace to keep in Somalia, as there are no two factions fighting each other. Al Shabab is a project for the West, particularly the US, which wants to drag out its spurious money making "War on Terror".

The US has never been serious about fighting Al Shabab, the same way it was not serious about fighting ISIS in Syria, as they kept claiming to have been bombing ISIS, while they were just bombing Bashar Al Assad's forces, until the Russians jumped in and had bombed the sh.it outta ISIS.

The US has been claiming to have been bombing Al Shabab and killing score of Al Shabab commanders for the past 14 years or so. It's the US that wants to keep these troops in Somalia to prolong its money making business - War on terror.


It's the Somali forces that have seriously been fighting Al Shabab for the past couple of years. Ethiopian troops are mostly stationed on the suburbs of towns and do nothing but wait for Al Shabab to ambush them and kill scores of these Ethiopians fuc.kers.

The US doesn't want to seriously fight Al Shabab, neither does it want anyone else to do so. It just wants to prolong its fake war on terror. After all, it's the US that has created Al Shabab, Al Qaida, ISIS, the Talibans, etc.


I don't know anything about Egypt digging canals. Nevertheless, Trumps is coming back and Egypt won't hesitate to bomb the sh.it outta the GERD and level it to the ground. Amen.
Somaliman,

Somali brothers, be careful be cautious, your sovereignty is in danger. I tell you:

If you allow ethios which has over 120 million inhabitants to own a 20 or 30 km in your land then expect there will be a huge change of demography, millions of ethios will settle in your land. They will swallow your land and your next generation will be the minority in their own land.

We eritreans are experiencing similar problem back home, we have those who call themselves brigade nhamedu, their main aim is the tigray-tigrigni crap, they publicly tell eritreans and tigrayans are one, they encourage tigrayans to settle in Eritrea.

Mind you, according to their wish half of poor tigrians from the tigray region has to settle in Eritrea and they encourage them but to no avail, eris are farsighted hence those tigray-tigrigni crap proponents have zero chance.

If we eri allow them, then the demography of eritrea will change and it won't be to the benefit of any eri.


What percentage of the Tigrinya kebessa community of Eritrea suppport the tigrinya tigray alliance i remember i read once in a book the chief of the akele guzay supported the tigray tigrinya party in the 1940s and 1950s . I saw dark energy calling out deqi arewit as a tesfazation who is this tesfay guy do u have a picture of him dark energy says he is a lizzard looking fellow.
And what does his movement stand for and what is the difference between tasfaization tigrinya tigray alliance and agazi movement.

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Re: Ethiopia Says It's Open To Dialogue Over Somaliland Deal

Post by Educator » 24 Jan 2024, 20:22

How is it suicidal? Would you like to elaborate?
ZEMEN wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 14:42
kerenite wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 14:14
At this point full scale attacking GRD is suicide for Sudan and Egypt.

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Re: Ethiopia Says It's Open To Dialogue Over Somaliland Deal

Post by Somaliman » 24 Jan 2024, 22:09

Zack wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 20:12
Somaliman wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 19:30
kerenite wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 18:35
Somaliman wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 15:26
kerenite wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 14:14
Just a question,

Why the somali government does not kick out the "Ethiopian peace keeping forces" from somalia?

What are they scared of? Al shebab? Well al shebab has the same stance with the regime in mogadishu. It is better for the regime to negotiate with al shebab because the sovereignty of their country is in danger.

Having said that....

The 7th king of Ethiopia won't ever dare to attack somalia while he received the message of Egypt. He knows, any grave error, Egypt will bomb the hell out of Ethiopia. Of course, their main target will be the GRD and they have the backing of the international community.

Finally,

Have you noticed something peculiar a week ago? Well the egyptians are digging a 4 Km canal in their territory, as a precaution in case if they bomb the dam, the new canal will diminish the danger which the floods may cause.






Kerenite,

All Somalis without any exception, including Somali Kenyans and Somali Djiboutians have been calling on the Somali President to kick the Ethiopian troops out of the country. But he's not doing so, nether is he explaining why, as he's hiding from the Somali public, despite being under public scrutiny.

In addition, the Ethiopian troops, like other foreign troops in Somalia, are not fighting or engaging Al Shabab any more. They're just enjoying getting paid more than five times of what their respective governments pay them. These fuc.kers are claiming to be peacekeepers while there's no peace to keep in Somalia, as there are no two factions fighting each other. Al Shabab is a project for the West, particularly the US, which wants to drag out its spurious money making "War on Terror".

The US has never been serious about fighting Al Shabab, the same way it was not serious about fighting ISIS in Syria, as they kept claiming to have been bombing ISIS, while they were just bombing Bashar Al Assad's forces, until the Russians jumped in and had bombed the sh.it outta ISIS.

The US has been claiming to have been bombing Al Shabab and killing score of Al Shabab commanders for the past 14 years or so. It's the US that wants to keep these troops in Somalia to prolong its money making business - War on terror.


It's the Somali forces that have seriously been fighting Al Shabab for the past couple of years. Ethiopian troops are mostly stationed on the suburbs of towns and do nothing but wait for Al Shabab to ambush them and kill scores of these Ethiopians fuc.kers.

The US doesn't want to seriously fight Al Shabab, neither does it want anyone else to do so. It just wants to prolong its fake war on terror. After all, it's the US that has created Al Shabab, Al Qaida, ISIS, the Talibans, etc.


I don't know anything about Egypt digging canals. Nevertheless, Trumps is coming back and Egypt won't hesitate to bomb the sh.it outta the GERD and level it to the ground. Amen.
Somaliman,

Somali brothers, be careful be cautious, your sovereignty is in danger. I tell you:

If you allow ethios which has over 120 million inhabitants to own a 20 or 30 km in your land then expect there will be a huge change of demography, millions of ethios will settle in your land. They will swallow your land and your next generation will be the minority in their own land.

We eritreans are experiencing similar problem back home, we have those who call themselves brigade nhamedu, their main aim is the tigray-tigrigni crap, they publicly tell eritreans and tigrayans are one, they encourage tigrayans to settle in Eritrea.

Mind you, according to their wish half of poor tigrians from the tigray region has to settle in Eritrea and they encourage them but to no avail, eris are farsighted hence those tigray-tigrigni crap proponents have zero chance.

If we eri allow them, then the demography of eritrea will change and it won't be to the benefit of any eri.





You got the picture very clearly, but sadly, some fuc.kers in the breakaway region, who are obsessed with a recognition and who are even ready to ship all their women to Ethiopia in return for a recognition that won't add anything to their fuc.king lives, do not see a fraction of what you foresee, which is a reality fast-forwarded. Could you imagine if those Galla in Somaliland have lately been openly claiming (even on the telly) that Galla is a Somali clan and that they're Somalis - I swear to the almighty God this is true.

Ethiopia would easily relocate just five million of fuc.king Galla to Somaliland and make Somalis a minority in their own land in no time. Not only would the demography change, but also, the boundary and border between Ethiopia and Somalia, as they would populate Oromo from the coast all the way to Ethiopia, ultimately making Somaliland part of Ethiopia by simply changing the demography; thus, the border would be pushed further down to Somalia, and we won't have any border with Djibouti, as the coastal land and the area that would be occupied by Ethiopia would be between Somalia and Djibouti.

Ethiopian project is way bigger than mere port and naval base. It's to annex a Somali land by changing the demography and finally changing also the borders and boundaries. But the fuc.kers in Somaliland who are high on khat 24/7 do not realise this., albeit they would be the prime victims.

This project of annexing this portion of Somalia is not new. Menelik and Selassie used to parrot this openly.


What i dont understand what they think they will achieve with recognititon from Ethiopia , other countries will not follow suit , and last but not least doesn Ethiopia already recognise them they can travel with their passport to addis Abbaba. they have diplomatic office in Hargeisa they get scholarships from Ethiopia. They enrol in their military schools in Harar. What other recognition are the waiting for . if Ethiopia says and makes an statement we recognise As an Independent state. Doesnt mean u will enter the UNITED NATIONS. Its just a word on a piece of paper is that worth the sea. or a share in Ethiopian airlines. with the danger that in 50 years they wish to change the demographics anu ma fahnin wali faiidada.



Dr Zackovich



They're delusional. They believe that if Ethiopia recognises them, this would produce a domino effect, which in turn would lead to other countries following suit. But this is an insane delusion.

Which countries would follow suit. Possibly Kenya, as it doesn't want to see a unified strong Somalia, and that's it. Uganda, Tanzania, Rwanda, Burundi, etc would not follow suit. The west won't, as all of them, including japan and South Korea, have one voice. No a single member of the Arab League. Malaysia, and Indonesia won't recognise them, neither any of the countries in South East Asia. Russia and China won't recognise them. Eastern Europe countries and Latin America are careless about this. Countries in Central Asia: Kazakhstan Uzbekistan, Kirgizstan, etc., won't follow suit

Waa sheeko ay ku madadaalinayaan kuwooda badan ee waxma garatada ah.

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Re: Ethiopia Says It's Open To Dialogue Over Somaliland Deal

Post by Somaliman » 25 Jan 2024, 20:11

Abdisa wrote:
24 Jan 2024, 20:00
Calling for a dialogue after causing so much damage to diplomatic relations is akin to shooting first and asking questions later.

It should be recalled that, the TPLF also called for a dialogue with Eritrea after refusing to enter into a dialogue in the first place, causing the unnecessary deaths of 170,000 Ethiopian soldiers for a territory that was later awarded to Eritrea, and their call for a dialogue after suffering humiliating defeats on both the battlefield and the international court arenas, was just their usual face-saving gimmicks. Abiy's call for a dialogue is no different.




You're right, it's after they've inflicted so much damage onto themselves in the first place, that they start to beg for a dialogue!

Ethiopians can fool anyone but Eritreans and Somalis, as we know the fuc.kers too well.

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