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[Jikaar]

jikaar

I have big hope the new youth movement will bring an end to this nonsense that’s been our reality. Trade requires free thinking and movement.

I completely agree with you, this old fashioned mentality of self sufficient doesn't work in This modern world. The Eritreans could be wealthier by bringing staff to Ethiopia. If an Eritrean catches a fish in his beach. Millions of Ethiopians would love to test and buy from him regularly. It's obvious Eritrea is a big prison. Let's pray for them.

[Jikaar]

This kid high on khat is talking out of his ar.se!

There's no trade whatsoever between the mindless enclave, aka Somaliland, and Ethiopia.

FYI, trade menas "the action of buying and selling goods and services."

Somaliland doesn't export anything whatsoever anywhere in the world, including Ethiopia. its export volume is ZERO.

No wonder. How would you expect people that are chewing khat and talking clannism all day long and every fuc.king day to produce and export anything. No way.!

It's only Somaliland that's importing from Ethiopia, and its imports are mainly khat and humble amount of fruits and vegetables from the fuc.king Oromia, and livestock from the Somali kilil in Ethiopia.

Somaliland doesn't spend billions on imports from Ethiopia, as this kid certainly high on khat is uttering. They spend hundreds of millions solely on importing khat.

Therefore, since it's purely a one way business, which is Ethiopia exporting to Somaliland and Somaliland exporting ZERO to Ethiopia, there's no trade between the breakaway region of Somalia and Ethiopia.

Calm down , why are you angry . Whether we buy khat or potatoes , you know the oromos earn a lot from us. And we are well aware of the trade deficit. This is why we are interested to provide the things they need from outside. This is why we need to handle their export.

There is no one single Oromo against that arrangement and there is nothing you can do about it. Fk Mogadishu. That's 1000s miles away from me. Why would I give a shiiit about some one living that far. When I can deal with an Oromo who is 3 hours drive away from me. The zoomalians have the same mindset of the Eritreans. You guys are sick walaahi.

[Somaliman]

his is why we are interested to provide the things they need from outside. This is why we need to handle their export.

You're talking sh.it.

What are the things they need from outside that you would provide them?

They don't fuc.king need any khat chewing fuc.kers from your enclave to provide them with what they need from outside once they get the coastal land they're daydreaming about and build their own port(s).

Again, they won't fuc.king need you to touch their exports once they get the coastal land they're daydreaming about and build their own port(s).

Of course, you fuc.kers form the breakaway enclave are no match for Eritreans. That's why people from mainland Somalia and Eritreans click with each other. You fuc.kers are high on khat 24 hours a day.

[eritrea]

Jikaar's task is not to make sense but to counter defend the MOU from Somaliland's side.

I believe more than anyone else, he seems to be one of Abi's cadre.

what we have been talking about the whole time is not the agreement itself, but how it was started and how it is supposed to be carried out. i.e. it violates all regional and international charters. A country that is willing to break all the rules that it has voluntarily signed is not a good start from the get go. It is expected any sensible person to sense such kind of serious indicator.

[Jikaar]

his is why we are interested to provide the things they need from outside. This is why we need to handle their export.

You're talking sh.it.

What are the things they need from outside that you would provide them?

They don't fuc.king need any khat chewing fuc.kers from your enclave to provide them with what they need from outside once they get the coastal land they're daydreaming about and build their own port(s).

Again, they won't fuc.king need you to touch their exports once they get the coastal land they're daydreaming about and build their own port(s).

Of course, you fuc.kers form the breakaway enclave are no match for Eritreans. That's why people from mainland Somalia and Eritreans click with each other. You fuc.kers are high on khat 24 hours a day.

Every thing is not made in Oromia , we isaaqs have been dealing with them for centuries. In fact we introduced their coffee to the world. They know peaple like Ogsadey .

That fear mongering doesn't work you coward. 100% of the oromo land is fertile. I am more likely to buy their land than Oromo buying my land . No oromo is interested to settle in my semi desert land. Oromos Will never take my land by force they don't need it. But their professionals or labour can seek opportunity In our major cities. That can be managed in a civilised way.

Use yours died common sense. An Oromo can't have a port in my sea while I am getting nothing out of it, in terms of Money . But he can invest and we can share the profit . Oromo as a tribe are not treat to us . We don't even border with any of their clans. If you mean Ethiopia government will swallow you in the future. I personally
don't care as long as we are in charge of our land. I see Ethiopia as my country. Hundreds of thousands of my clansmen are already Ethiopians.

We are absulutely not afraid of any Oromo or habesha at all. I see them same like somalis. I can say soomalis are more hostile to us because of the proximity.

[Dark Energy]

Port ownership ? No discussion.

[Wordpad]

Jikaar is a Galla.

[Jikaar]

Jikaar's task is not to make sense but to counter defend the MOU from Somaliland's side.

I believe more than anyone else, he seems to be one of Abi's cadre.

what we have been talking about the whole time is not the agreement itself, but how it was started and how it is supposed to be carried out. i.e. it violates all regional and international charters. A country that is willing to break all the rules that it has voluntarily signed is not a good start from the get go. It is expected any sensible person to sense such kind of serious indicator.

Somaliland exists to break all the rules that exists today. It's very unfair to us, we are held hostage by a failed state . Abiy is the person we can use to solve our status quo. He seems stupid but fearless young guy.

[eritrea]

Somaliland exists to break all the rules that exists today. It's very unfair to us, we are held hostage by a failed state . Abiy is the person we can use to solve our status quo. He seems stupid but fearless young guy.

For a choice between a headache and a brain cancer cell in the head. I know which choice you would have prefered.

[Zack]

Amhara farmer the soldiers were amhara the king was amhara the minister was amhara the ambassador were amhara and u galla want to tell me the eritreans and somalis were not fighting amhara, u galla will always be slave of amharaa, u even unintentionally defend amhara because they are your masters



dr zackovich

The army wasn't entirely Amara though. Even then, the army doesn't represent all Amara, or Oromo, they fight for the interests of their govt. In some rare cases, they fight for the nations interests that aren't just Amara or Oromo interests.
Eritreans themselves know and say they weren't fighting Amaras. It was Amaras and other Ethiopians who were literally crying as your beloved tplf was targeting Eritreans in finfinne/Addis prior to the Badme war. I can go on and on.
Generalizing and blanket statements are for the simple minded my tplf cyber troll cadre friend zack and hagos wedi tigrayan.

Amara ain't my enemy. Somalis ain't my enemy. Even your beloved tigrayans aren't my enemies. The minority extremists, such as yourself may be enemies to us, but that doesn't mean entire nations are. I actually interact with amaras, somalis, etc, in real-life and the majority are decent people.



Tesfa tigrayan news, I listed some reasons, not ALL.
It's a complicated issue that isn't as simple as you make it out to be. As usual the tplf cyber troll Zack blames "gallas and Amaras," while leaving out his perfect tigrayans. Which is fair, of course he'd defend his beloved people. I get it.


Why is Pia against this "free trade," you speak of, then? According to you?

I don’t hate any one I still don’t get why you think I am tplf. I have never indicated to supported any government in Ethiopia
My stance has always been separating for the Somali state from Ethiopia whether Haile sellasie was in power ur brother uncle mengistu. Etc I have never targeted Eritreans in Addis Ababa
And I stil don’t get why u defending Amhara Haile selassie was amhara the fighters of mengistu were galla and Amhara .
So why do u think Amhara are innocent in this
I am not an extremist so I am not ur enemy



Dr Zackovich

[Dark Energy]

Guragie Jigaar,
Somali Land is still under the sovereignty of Somalia. The question is not about trade. It is a question of international treaty on international trade. Ethiopia does not recognize Somali Land as a sovereign country. Abbiy is just using you to prolong his power. Demand recognition then talk. Shyyt head.

[Jikaar]

Guragie Jigaar,
Somali Land is still under the sovereignty of Somalia. The question is not about trade. It is a question of international treaty on international trade. Ethiopia does not recognize Somali Land as a sovereign country. Abbiy is just using you to prolong his power. Demand recognition then talk. Shyyt head.

Of course he is using us and we are using him. The only difference is we have nothing to loose here even if he backs off we have already took advantage of the situation , and we would do anything to escalate the tension between Zoomalia and Ethiopia.

[Somaliman]

Jikaar's task is not to make sense but to counter defend the MOU from Somaliland's side.

I believe more than anyone else, he seems to be one of Abi's cadre.

what we have been talking about the whole time is not the agreement itself, but how it was started and how it is supposed to be carried out. i.e. it violates all regional and international charters. A country that is willing to break all the rules that it has voluntarily signed is not a good start from the get go. It is expected any sensible person to sense such kind of serious indicator.

he seems to be one of Abi's cadre.

This can be an insult even to the clown monkey, Abiy, as this little wanker, high on khat and murmuring crap, is not even capable of being cadre of his own fuc.king ar.se.

[Dark Energy]

Jikkar…

Abbiy used you. You did not use him. Let me explain. Many countries around the World, including the AU were considering recognition of Somali Land before Abbiy signed the MOU. When Abbiy signed the MOU, which is nothing but a memorandum, and later on, denying the recognition part, that changed everything. It is called strings attached. Once Ethiopia had recognized you without strings attached, other countries would have followed. Somali Land fell victim to Abbiy. Your leaders are not that bright. Recognition should have come first.The rag tag boy, from thr zGalla land was just playing you for fools. He is all about staying popular in power.

[Somaliman]

Jikkar…

Abbiy used you. You did not use him. Let me explain. Many countries around the World, including the AU were considering recognition of Somali Land. When Abbiy signed the MOU, which is nothing but a memorandum, and later on, denying the recognition part, that changed everything. It is called strings attached. Once Ethiopia had recognized you without strings attached, other countries would have followed. Somali Land fell victim to Abbiy. Your leaders are not that bright. Recognition should have come first.The rag tag boy, from thr zGalla land was just playing you for fools. He is all about staying popular in power.

They're so mindless that they believe the recognition of Ethiopia, a country synonymous with famine and humanitarian food aid in the minds of people across the world, would have a domino effect, and thus other countries would follow in droves, not even knowing that if this was as easy as dreamed, Northern Cyprus, also known as the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, would have rejoiced by now at such a domino effect, as Turkey still remains the only country to have recognised Northern Cyprus and no one else.

[Sadacha Macca]

Amhara farmer the soldiers were amhara the king was amhara the minister was amhara the ambassador were amhara and u galla want to tell me the eritreans and somalis were not fighting amhara, u galla will always be slave of amharaa, u even unintentionally defend amhara because they are your masters



dr zackovich

The army wasn't entirely Amara though. Even then, the army doesn't represent all Amara, or Oromo, they fight for the interests of their govt. In some rare cases, they fight for the nations interests that aren't just Amara or Oromo interests.
Eritreans themselves know and say they weren't fighting Amaras. It was Amaras and other Ethiopians who were literally crying as your beloved tplf was targeting Eritreans in finfinne/Addis prior to the Badme war. I can go on and on.
Generalizing and blanket statements are for the simple minded my tplf cyber troll cadre friend zack and hagos wedi tigrayan.

Amara ain't my enemy. Somalis ain't my enemy. Even your beloved tigrayans aren't my enemies. The minority extremists, such as yourself may be enemies to us, but that doesn't mean entire nations are. I actually interact with amaras, somalis, etc, in real-life and the majority are decent people.



Tesfa tigrayan news, I listed some reasons, not ALL.
It's a complicated issue that isn't as simple as you make it out to be. As usual the tplf cyber troll Zack blames "gallas and Amaras," while leaving out his perfect tigrayans. Which is fair, of course he'd defend his beloved people. I get it.


Why is Pia against this "free trade," you speak of, then? According to you?

I don’t hate any one I still don’t get why you think I am tplf. I have never indicated to supported any government in Ethiopia
My stance has always been separating for the Somali state from Ethiopia whether Haile sellasie was in power ur brother uncle mengistu. Etc I have never targeted Eritreans in Addis Ababa
And I stil don’t get why u defending Amhara Haile selassie was amhara the fighters of mengistu were galla and Amhara .
So why do u think Amhara are innocent in this
I am not an extremist so I am not ur enemy



Dr Zackovich

Yeah sure, and 2 plus 2=5, there's no point in trying to lie here Zack; but then again, tplf cyber trolls don't understand shame, integrity, etc. So...
Haile Selassie was culturally Amara, yes, but of mixed heritage (gurage, oromo, amara), and he was an elite-he didn't care for the average Amara, who lived in abject poverty, like many others. As much as I dislike haile selassie (very much), I do not blame Amara's for his actions, because that'd be unjust.
The soldiers of the govt represent themselves, and the government of course; not the entire nation they came from.
If you wish to be unfair and unjust, and generalize; that's up to you dude. My religion, Islam, commands justice of me, and despite my many flaws, I strive to do that-be fair and impartial.

Dr Sadachavich

[Sadacha Macca]

Ignore the two tplf cyber trolls above, zack and tarik with his 10 other accounts; they're speaking nonsense as usual.
The fact is, the answer to this would be complicated. Part of it is, the fact that there's a hostile tplf, or the remnants of it, directly across the border in tigray. Perhaps if eritrea bordered oromia or amara only, along with afar of course; trade would be more viable.
There are other reasons of course, such as, certain countries, external forces if you will, prefer that these two african nations remain at odds.

I assume you are Oromo. Perhaps you too are curious. How come these habeshas are not trading. I believe the problem is not the peaple but their leadership.

Yes, Ani Oromo dha. I also believe it's mostly the issue between the leadership {there are probably other reasons), which includes the leadership of Tigray, (-which of course is hostile to Eritrea and the government there. The history doesn't need to be explained; they tried very hard to illegally annex Eritrean lands/ports, when that failed, they strived to isolate Eritrea, weaken it from within, hoping for its collapse. So, of course, there is no love lost there.

[Zack]

Jikkar…

Abbiy used you. You did not use him. Let me explain. Many countries around the World, including the AU were considering recognition of Somali Land before Abbiy signed the MOU. When Abbiy signed the MOU, which is nothing but a memorandum, and later on, denying the recognition part, that changed everything. It is called strings attached. Once Ethiopia had recognized you without strings attached, other countries would have followed. Somali Land fell victim to Abbiy. Your leaders are not that bright. Recognition should have come first.The rag tag boy, from thr zGalla land was just playing you for fools. He is all about staying popular in power.

The recognition is tied to the government of Somalia if they say Somaliland is recognised the rest of the world will follow. Like Eritrea was first recognised by Ethiopia. And how Basheer of sudan first recognised south sudan. They just need to convince the government of Somalia to hold a referendum on independence and viola there u have it. And u dont need to sell ur shores to gallas. Even if they have to bribe or create a puppet government the Dir clan the main clan of Somaliland has 62 seats in the parliament in Mogadishu. But they are not that bright our president in Djibouti told them once that they put the cart before the horse. The world hates Unilateral secession. i assure if the Puntland people of Somalia wanted secession they would have gained recognition in 1991 they are politically savy they understood the game. And they are the best Somali politicians they produced two President Abdilahi Yusuf sharmarke in the 1960s and a dozen prime ministers. They are the most political savy in the west all the parliamanterians in the west whether its ilhaan omar the guy on the international court. All hail from puntland. I think they would have made it before our brothers in Hargeisa.

Dr Zackovich

[Abere]

I guess the game is well played from the Ethiopia-Somaliland's side. Egypt, Somalia, etc. are running up and down so will run out of gas. Somaliland-Ethiopia will drag Egypt and Co. via arduous long winding path, yet follow their own calendar of doing what they will be doing. Arab League too will keep shouting for long and too will be blindsided, just like its Egypt &Co. Egypt wants this opportunity so badly to bring Ethiopia into the negotiation table on the Abay Dam, but she will not get it. Ethiopia is playing the game in a way Egypt will not get closer to win it. For now, it wise Ethiopia ignoring the fox cry from around the world coordinated by AU, UN, and the like NGOs and focus on the target. Ethiopia being silent and yet focused is great, it has now made Egypt and co. fools and nervous. Make Abay Hydro Dam protect itself by investing revenues generated from it used for buying advanced weapons. The future goal should be using Abay River for Mechanized Irrigation. Of course, having a strong navy and naval base in Red Sea gulf.

[Somaliman]

Jikkar…

Abbiy used you. You did not use him. Let me explain. Many countries around the World, including the AU were considering recognition of Somali Land before Abbiy signed the MOU. When Abbiy signed the MOU, which is nothing but a memorandum, and later on, denying the recognition part, that changed everything. It is called strings attached. Once Ethiopia had recognized you without strings attached, other countries would have followed. Somali Land fell victim to Abbiy. Your leaders are not that bright. Recognition should have come first.The rag tag boy, from thr zGalla land was just playing you for fools. He is all about staying popular in power.

The recognition is tied to the government of Somalia if they say Somaliland is recognised the rest of the world will follow. Like Eritrea was first recognised by Ethiopia. And how Basheer of sudan first recognised south sudan. They just need to convince the government of Somalia to hold a referendum on independence and viola there u have it. And u dont need to sell ur shores to gallas. Even if they have to bribe or create a puppet government the Dir clan the main clan of Somaliland has 62 seats in the parliament in Mogadishu. But they are not that bright our president in Djibouti told them once that they put the cart before the horse. The world hates Unilateral secession. i assure if the Puntland people of Somalia wanted secession they would have gained recognition in 1991 they are politically savy they understood the game. And they are the best Somali politicians they produced two President Abdilahi Yusuf sharmarke in the 1960s and a dozen prime ministers. They are the most political savy in the west all the parliamanterians in the west whether its ilhaan omar the guy on the international court. All hail from puntland. I think they would have made it before our brothers in Hargeisa.

Dr Zackovich

The recognition is tied to the government of Somalia

No matter how many times I've corrected you, you're continuing to utter the very same sh.it.

It's not in the capacity of a sitting president or his government to grant recognition to the fuc.kers in the north. They cannot, even if they wanted to. If this were the case, this would have happened long ago, as Somali presidents, like many other African presidents tend to be corrupt.

In addition, what you've said with regard to Puntland is totally untrue.

The truth is that Puntland was on the trajectory of Somaliland. But since the architects of Puntland saw that Somaliland got stuck and could get any recognition, they just dropped that temptation, as it was an exercise in futility.

You're really funny. You've never lived in Somalia, as you're from Ethiopia, yet you play an expert of Somalia's affairs!