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[Somaliman]

You got it right , it's Abere aka Horus

Remember, until this MoU attraction has emerged, he used to keep saying that we had to make a difference between Abiy and Ethiopia, and that Abiy didn't stand for Ethiopia and instead was shaming Ethiopia!

But since this damn MoU has emerged, he has become more Abiy than Abiy himself!

What do you call a person who behaves like him!

[Zack]

A person with no back bone
Gurage are not more then 100.000 people so insignificant
He is being jumping up and down the past week since this fake mou. I want to see him after this saga ends hahah he will be so dissapointed.


Dr Zackovich

[Wordpad]

Abiy done this fake MOU thing to get support from these kinds of people. Can't wait to see their reaction when they find out that this MOU is fake.

[Temt]

A person with no back bone
Gurage are not more then 100.000 people so insignificant
He is being jumping up and down the past week since this fake mou. I want to see him after this saga ends hahah he will be so dissapointed.


Dr Zackovich

Somaliman, Zack
I call them "Empty cans" that are good at making loud noises. They brag about heroism, how great their fake history is etc. Now that Abiy, the monkey, has exposed them stark naked of all their empty bravado which is based on ተረት ተረት!
"We never have been defeated" ሃየ! How about by the Italians, Somalis, and Eritreans? wink! wink! wink!
"We never have been colonized" ሃየ! How about by the Italians wink! wink! wink!
"We never have initiated any war" ሃየ! How about invading and annexing the Southern peoples, and Eritreans? wink! wink! wink!
"All we are asking is an economic integration" with our neighbors. Really? Why did you refuse then to use the Eritrean ports literally for free? Why haven't you used the Assab port when Eritrea had made it ready two years ago, instead of paying Djibouti "Too much" money, when you darn well know they never "Forced" you to use their port?

[euroland]

Meanwhile, today Abiy’s Airforce just massacred innocent Amara civilians in Mingar district, North Showa using Arab donated Drones. Reports coming out from there say hundreds have been killed already. Here the gullible Ethiopians are cheering the violation of the Somalian republic’s sovereignty. We know Ato Horus is gurage and may not care for the life of innocent Amara’s death but those who claimed to be Amaras here are the one shocks me by standing behind this UAE slave PM’s useless adventure in Somalia.

[sarcasm]

A person with no back bone
Gurage are not more then 100.000 people so insignificant
He is being jumping up and down the past week since this fake mou. I want to see him after this saga ends hahah he will be so dissapointed.


Dr Zackovich

Hi Zack,

Why are you dissing Gurage people? Horus's opinion does not represent the 100k or 3 million Gurage opinion. The Gurage people did not say he represent them. He did not say he represents them. I don't expect such low level attack from your calibre. You are more thank capable of challenging him and his opinions without bringing the Gurage people or his Gurageness.

[Zack]

A person with no back bone
Gurage are not more then 100.000 people so insignificant
He is being jumping up and down the past week since this fake mou. I want to see him after this saga ends hahah he will be so dissapointed.


Dr Zackovich

Hi Zack,

Why are you dissing Gurage people? Horus's opinion does not represent the 100k or 3 million Gurage opinion. The Gurage people did not say he represent them. He did not say he represents them. I don't expect such low level attack from your calibre. You are more thank capable of challenging him and his opinions without bringing the Gurage people or his Gurageness.

your right its uncalled for i apologise fot that i will challenge his claims though


Dr Zackovich

[Horus]

No, Horus The Ethiopian makes 1000% distinction between Oromuma ethno-fascism and the Invictus, the Glorious Ethiopian Nation. And, Horus doesn't give a rat about the noise and cry of the petty clan tribalists of HoA. Moreover, it is the permanent unchanging position of Horus that Ethiopia will have access to the sea and will rebuild its Navy.

Now, you can go ahead curse and cry all want. You keep telling us how small Gurage is!!! Here a news for you - a single Gurage industrialist is worth twice the combined GDP of the 3 Somali states and Djibouti

ቆርፋዳ ኩታራ ችጋራም ሁላ ! ችግር ካለህ ከኔ ጋር ተከራከር!

[sarcasm]

A person with no back bone
Gurage are not more then 100.000 people so insignificant
He is being jumping up and down the past week since this fake mou. I want to see him after this saga ends hahah he will be so dissapointed.


Dr Zackovich

Hi Zack,

Why are you dissing Gurage people? Horus's opinion does not represent the 100k or 3 million Gurage opinion. The Gurage people did not say he represent them. He did not say he represents them. I don't expect such low level attack from your calibre. You are more thank capable of challenging him and his opinions without bringing the Gurage people or his Gurageness.

your right its uncalled for i apologise fot that i will challenge his claims though


Dr Zackovich

Thank you. A lot of people follow this forum to read others and your logical arguments and outlook. People give what they have, and you have pure gold and diamond.

[Abere]

Somaliman (fake Somalian),

I am not Abiy Ahmed's fan, I follow principle and logic. Why are you so mad at the MoU signed with Somaliland but never been mad before where many other countries signed myriads of MoU with Somaliland in the past? It smells a lot fishy when making Ethiopia as an isolated issue. Take Abiy Ahmed out of the issue, how about a democratically elected, a consensus President of Ethiopia signed such MoU. Do you accept that? This has nothing do Abiy Ahmed. This monkey business is never going to take you far. Somaliland is independent she does need Al Shaba guardian.
But keep being noisy, I think you are surely hurt.

You got it right , it's Abere aka Horus

Remember, until this MoU attraction has emerged, he used to keep saying that we had to make a difference between Abiy and Ethiopia, and that Abiy didn't stand for Ethiopia and instead was shaming Ethiopia!

But since this damn MoU has emerged, he has become more Abiy than Abiy himself!

What do you call a person who behaves like him!

[Somaliman]

A person with no back bone
Gurage are not more then 100.000 people so insignificant
He is being jumping up and down the past week since this fake mou. I want to see him after this saga ends hahah he will be so dissapointed.


Dr Zackovich

Somaliman, Zack
I call them "Empty cans" that are good at making loud noises. They brag about heroism, how great their fake history is etc. Now that Abiy, the monkey, has exposed them stark naked of all their empty bravado which is based on ተረት ተረት!
"We never have been defeated" ሃየ! How about by the Italians, Somalis, and Eritreans? wink! wink! wink!
"We never have been colonized" ሃየ! How about by the Italians wink! wink! wink!
"We never have initiated any war" ሃየ! How about invading and annexing the Southern peoples, and Eritreans? wink! wink! wink!
"All we are asking is an economic integration" with our neighbors. Really? Why did you refuse then to use the Eritrean ports literally for free? Why haven't you used the Assab port when Eritrea had made it ready two years ago, instead of paying Djibouti "Too much" money, when you darn well know they never "Forced" you to use their port?

This cursedland, known as Ethiopia, is all about lies and kissing ar.se.

"Historically, we used to have sea access", when in reality, historically, Ethiopia used to be landlocked. It's not by illegally occupying Eritrea that you make its sea access your fuc.king history!

[Somaliman]

Somaliman (fake Somalian),

I am not Abiy Ahmed's fan, I follow principle and logic. Why are you so mad at the MoU signed with Somaliland but never been mad before where many other countries signed myriads of MoU with Somaliland in the past? It smells a lot fishy when making Ethiopia as an isolated issue. Take Abiy Ahmed out of the issue, how about a democratically elected, a consensus President of Ethiopia signed such MoU. Do you accept that? This has nothing do Abiy Ahmed. This monkey business is never going to take you far. Somaliland is independent she does need Al Shaba guardian.
But keep being noisy, I think you are surely hurt.

You got it right , it's Abere aka Horus

Remember, until this MoU attraction has emerged, he used to keep saying that we had to make a difference between Abiy and Ethiopia, and that Abiy didn't stand for Ethiopia and instead was shaming Ethiopia!

But since this damn MoU has emerged, he has become more Abiy than Abiy himself!

What do you call a person who behaves like him!

I follow principle and logic.

Shut the fuc.k up. You ain't got any notion of principle or logic. You're simply uttering nonsense after nonsense, abusing nonsense itself.

Why are you so mad at the MoU signed with Somaliland but never been mad before where many other countries signed myriads of MoU with Somaliland in the past?

Get informed first before you scribble down you garbage! FYI, apart from your clown chimp, no one else, whoever this could be, has ever concocted any MoU with the northern region of Somalia.

Get your crap right prior to bringing it here. Failure to do so will only expose your gibberish further.

It smells a lot fishy when making Ethiopia as an isolated issue.

It's not only "making Ethiopia an isolated issue."

I would also like to see Ethiopia burned to the ground, turned into ashes, and wiped off the face of the earth for good, and I would even say Amen.

On a side note, why are you not answering my question - why have you been going wild since this MoU that's obviously doomed to fail has emerged, albeit this won't necessarily benefit you in particular as a second class citizen Guraghe?

[Somaliman]

A person with no back bone
Gurage are not more then 100.000 people so insignificant
He is being jumping up and down the past week since this fake mou. I want to see him after this saga ends hahah he will be so dissapointed.


Dr Zackovich

Hi Zack,

Why are you dissing Gurage people? Horus's opinion does not represent the 100k or 3 million Gurage opinion. The Gurage people did not say he represent them. He did not say he represents them. I don't expect such low level attack from your calibre. You are more thank capable of challenging him and his opinions without bringing the Gurage people or his Gurageness.

your right its uncalled for i apologise fot that i will challenge his claims though


Dr Zackovich

Zack,

You're too naïve and ingenuous.

What does this fuc.ker Agame, who's trying to give you a moral lesson, do on this forum?

Is he addressing any particular Eritrean? Isn't he here exclusively bashing, mocking, and trying to make fun of Eritreans in a blanket manner that encompasses all Eritreans, parroting ascari this, ascari that and posting stupid clips to demean Eritreans indiscriminately?

Seriously, this Agame ar.sehole must have lost his mind! He should start preaching his stupid moral lesson to his own ar.se at the first consideration.

He tells you that he doesn't "expect such low level attack from your calibre." It's that dishonest little praise that fools you, I guess!

Don't you think that you should have asked this little fuc.ker to lead by example what he's preaching to you!

On the other hand, the other fuc.ker, namely Horus, or may I say, Abere, has he lately been addressing a particular Somali, or he has been trying to spread blatant lies and fabrications on Somalis and their country, resorting to every nonsense at his disposal, including crap he digs from his own ar'se, to intentionally and very enthusiastically and passionately discredit and disgrace the honourable Somali people, though he's only exposing his ignorance and intellectual disability!

Although you're also from Ethiopia and are supposed to be quite familiar with Ethiopians, you don't seem to have a good grasp of the psychology, mindset, and characteristic way of thinking of Ethiopians!

[Cigar]

I believe Zach is a filthy funfun agame.
If he is a Djiboutian or Somali then he has no principle and always tries to compromise with ideas which will affect Djibouti or Somalia due to freaking fear of the backwards Ethiopia and its 120 million rats.
There is a principle or right or wrong and thus no matter how strong you believe your adversary is and you know that you are in the right, you need to confront it with different tactics like the Eritreans do and kill it.
Do you think Eritrea is stronger than the USA, UK and their puppets? Heck no! But we refuse to be hand twisted for their interests in our domain and we still are standing straight.
We believe might is not right.
Principles and rule of laws are RIGHT.

[Somaliman]

I believe Zach is a filthy funfun agame.
If he is a Djiboutian or Somali then he has no principle and always tries to compromise with ideas which will affect Djibouti or Somalia due to freaking fear of the backwards Ethiopia and its 120 million rats.
There is a principle or right or wrong and thus no matter how strong you believe your adversary is and you know that you are in the right, you need to confront it with different tactics like the Eritreans do and kill it.
Do you think Eritrea is stronger than the USA, UK and their puppets? Heck no! But we refuse to be hand twisted for their interests in our domain and we still are standing straight.
We believe might is not right.
Principles and rule of laws are RIGHT.

Cigar,

You're absolutely right. Good observation.

I owe you one top quality Cuban cigar. I used to smoke cigar, by-the-way.

Zack flipflops quite a lot and doesn't seem to have solid principles. His behaviour is far from being a typical Somali behaviour. We die for what we believe, even if it's wrong to other. We don't adjust our principles with what some fuc.kers want to hear.

For instance, one day he calls Somaliland a separatist , a breakaway region of Somalia that's part and parcel of Somalia. And the next he says that Somaliland should be recognised, that the Somali president should give them a recognition. And this is just one example.

To be honest, I don't know what he stands for.

[Zack]

Somaliman I always try to keep it civil and sarcam said I should adress the guys opinion comment which is good . So I retract from personally insulting him . And adress him accordingly
I always try to be very objective in here . As much as I can


With regards to Somaliland my opinion is very simple I support the unity of The Somali republic based on the 1960 borders same as any other country in the world. And I think it’s a noble cause to protect for our grand childeren. As it stands today somaliland is a break away republic. According to the world . And I also support the talks that Somalis should clarify their future .

Now having said that the somaliland move done by the muse biixi affects Djibouti at more then any other country
Allowing Ethiopia sea out let will jeaperdise our economic life line in Djibouti. So addressing that particular issue

I state the following it’s better for Somaliland to be recognised. The we allow Ethiopia a sea out let. Ethiopia getting a sea out let’s damages us more then Somaliland being recognised surely they will try to get some of our bussines. But still we will be the dominating factor and still control over 80 percent of Ethiopia export and import bussiness. Ethiopia getting a sea out let via Somaliland doesn’t hurt Somalia economically but it’s hurts them geographically and being politically damaged . But they won’t lose a penny hence the difference. But we will lose our bussines So if we have to protect our interest i would go for the latter . But I hope it doesn’t come to that and the deal fails altogether see my point. Sxb


Dr Zackovich

[Somaliman]

Somaliman I always try to keep it civil and sarcam said I should adress the guys opinion comment which is good . So I retract from personally insulting him . And adress him accordingly
I always try to be very objective in here . As much as I can


With regards to Somaliland my opinion is very simple I support the unity of The Somali republic based on the 1960 borders same as any other country in the world. And I think it’s a noble cause to protect for our grand childeren. As it stands today somaliland is a break away republic. According to the world . And I also support the talks that Somalis should clarify their future .

Now having said that the somaliland move done by the muse biixi affects Djibouti at more then any other country
Allowing Ethiopia sea out let will jeaperdise our economic life line in Djibouti. So addressing that particular issue

I state the following it’s better for Somaliland to be recognised. The we allow Ethiopia a sea out let. Ethiopia getting a sea out let’s damages us more then Somaliland being recognised surely they will try to get some of our bussines. But still we will be the dominating factor and still control over 80 percent of Ethiopia export and import bussiness. Ethiopia getting a sea out let via Somaliland doesn’t hurt Somalia economically but it’s hurts them geographically and being politically damaged . But they won’t lose a penny hence the difference. But we will lose our bussines So if we have to protect our interest i would go for the latter . But I hope it doesn’t come to that and the deal fails altogether see my point. Sxb


Dr Zackovich

What I was saying is that Sarcasm asked you to stop talking about Gurage people and stick with the nonsense of Horus, aka Abere, when he should practise himself what he''s preaching to you. It has nothing to do with being civil or not.

Does he discuss a comment posted by an Eritrean, or he's just trying to mock and make fun of all Eritreans?

I think since you were born and grew up in Ethiopia, you've some features of Ethiopian attitude.

Regarding Somaliland, you can't have it both ways. You either support the unity of Somalia or the secession of the northern enclave. Again, you can't eat your cake and keep it at the same time.

Ethiopia's port claim is just to fool shallow-minded people, it's up to a coastal land, which will pave the way for that whole area to finally become gradually part of Ethiopia and there won't be any border between Somaliland and Ethiopia. Needless to add that in result there won't be any Somaliland any longer, as they would become part of Ethiopia, or at best, occupied territories.

I'm sure the clown chimp is telling Guelleh that Ethiopia will continue to use Djibouti's port and that They won't build any port on such a coastal land. But I suspect if one can trust Ethiopia, leave alone such a clown monkey. I would trust the devil rather than Ethiopia.

By the way, I haven't understood anything of what you're trying to say or explain in this portion.

I state the following it’s better for Somaliland to be recognised. The we allow Ethiopia a sea out let. Ethiopia getting a sea out let’s damages us more then Somaliland being recognised surely they will try to get some of our bussines. But still we will be the dominating factor and still control over 80 percent of Ethiopia export and import bussiness.

[Zack]

I concur for the most part Horus is just annoying with his jumping up and down since this whole fiasco began. The first of January how ever me and him weren’t mostly in any sort of discussion he for the most part when discussing its like ur talking to a brick wall so I mostly ignore his posts.

Yes it is true Ethiopia main objective is a port and that is something we can’t let them have under no circumstance . Since Ethiopia is also our very own bussiness partner in the region we can’t also openly condemn them how ever behind the curtains we know what they are up to. And that is to have permenant settlement on the coast that’s their objective the military base is all smokescreen they want to build a port .

Now let me take u back how we all got here indeed. Ethiopia fall out with eritrea Djibouti saw the opportunity. We contacted the emirates to invest in our ports the arangement was good , then came along somaliland with their independence bid . We initially in Djibouti oppose any sort of break up of Somalia for several reasons first one is that. Ethiopia and Kenya will become two hegonomic houses in the region with a possible break up of Somalia. The second reason we oppose is that the if there was a somaliiand state in the north it would try to take some of our bussines as it also wants to establish a possible port for Ethiopia. This we can’t let them have or do. So it’s better that their affairs is dictated from Mogadishu and we will deal with Mogadishu directly. Since Somalia has never really had any sort of interest in the port issues. Since it has other sort of bussiness resources oil bananas farm lands . Means we can have monopoly on the port trade with Ethiopia. But Djibouti must protect its vital interest.


Now things have changed somaliland offered Ethiopia a sea out let in exchange for recognition. Now the recognition doesn’t damage Djibouti as much as Ethiopia gaining acces . Are you following me . Sure they will try to compete with us but we are 20 years ahead of them . In terms of Port facilities . They are trying f us over just not spite u or Somalia maybe yeah but to gain recognition for a sea out let that’s hurts me more then you. For you it’s land Somalia owns how ever it has no control over it but it is still ur land u lose it but it won’t crush ur economy . So they don’t mind losing port bussines since they are obsessed with recognition but because of their said policies it’s bad for us . Let’s say Ethiopia establishes its self in lugbaya an issa land it stays there for what few decades it claims it eventually. Then they recognised by Ethiopia alone they become the Turkish Cyprus sort of country only recognised by the turkey but Ethiopia which is a bigger and powerful country wil try absorb them first slowely the long term damage it will do outweighs everting.it Wil hurt Somalis in general and affect Somalis in the north in particular . But Mogadishu won’t lose any bussiness at all. But Djibouti will be severely damaged do u get my drift .

Worse case scenario what if we can’t stop Ethiopia from coming to north Somalia . It’s all good and well allot of countries reject Ethiopia claim . How ever what we need is boots on the ground blue helmets to protect the land at all cost . My point is if we can’t stop it then we might as well let somaliland go and be recognised and we should support in exchange they will drop the mou and Ethiopia then can’t have access to the sea . That’s an option or we go further and do the opposite .

The other option is if somalia and Djibouti combine forces and invade awdal and establish a foothold there that in return it is political reality on the ground . Though Djibouti would be seen an agresssor indeed . How ever somalia will not it would be just maybe civil war or on the pretext that Somalia is trying to flex it it muscles and trying to control their territorial integrity you can’t get sanctions for that . Only if u start ethnic cleaning but that is unlikely . But it’s gonne be a long war it’s gonne be somaliland and Ethiopia Vs Somalia and Djibouti and possible eritrea and Egypt will also be on. Our side but the ramifications will be enormously on all sides . How eve once win the war. It’s gonne take along time to reconstitute Somalia again especially the north. Are you following me . Somaliland damages Djibouti if it gives Ethiopië A sea out let more then the people in Mogadishu or puntland . But the dillema is we cant openly condemn them since they are our trade clients. But we must for sure try everting to stop Ethiopia from gaining a sea out let indeed


Dr Zackovich

[Somaliman]

I understand your reasoning.

It's true if Ethiopia gets a coastal land in the north, the first and foremost victim of this would be Djibouti. I'm sure the clown monkey is telling Guelleh of Djibouti that Ethiopia is not really interested in having a port in Somaliland and all it's after is having a naval base and that Ethiopia would continue using Djibouti's port forever. But Guelleh must be a complete dumb to believe such a deceptive rhetoric.

In reality, Ethiopia's vision goes way beyond a port or a naval base. It's historical, as both Menelik and Selassie used to dream of and parrot it. It has always been dreaming of capturing Awdal region and attaching it to the rest of Ethiopia, making it part of Ethiopia and bringing the Somali inhabitants under its control and rule or just displacing them and pushing them either to Somalia or Djibouti, and finally eliminating the border between Somalia and Djibouti; thus, Ethiopia would have a border with Djibouti also from the Somalia side. But the fuc.kers in Somaliland don't see this, as they're blinded by a useless recognition.

[Abere]

In fact, Djibouti will lose a few percentage of port revenue temporarily. As Ethiopia in the long term will have many access to the world and sea, Djbouti should accept the fact its only source of revenue will be less than what is today in the long term. It is better for Djibouti to stay out of this childish affairs of f!lrit with Al Shabab Somalia and other paranoid states. Ethiopia is her only life line, while Ethiopia will have many ports. If Ethiopia unplugs anything to Djibouti, Djibouti is dead like dry wood. It will soon beg Ethiopia to be united back. If Ethiopia wishes, she can revoke the fake Djibouti independence and take over her just like Russia did to Crimea. Only one thing will remain to govern Ethiopia- Ethiopia's fundamental and existential need. Any fake colonial treaties, UN cr@r ules comes to second. If they meant to arrest Ethiopia and hold back her achieving her full potential, Ethiopia should and will null and void the so-called colonial cr@p as those were tailored to satisfy the needs of then European interest. Who in hell keeps discriminatory enclaves localities ( allowed only for colonizers) in colonized cities of the past to keep that status quo? No, one. That is how colonial treaties are ta larger level. Ethiopia can and shall ignore them if they are against her existence. The Berlin Scramble for Africa was not signed in Addis Ababa.

Do not fight against what is the inevitable. Accept the new normal and back to glorify. This is naturally not contingent upon who leads Ethiopia. It is either Ethiopia now or in the future to reclaim what Ethiopia really and naturally was -- Ethiopian Ocean and Hindake Ocean belongs to the real Ethiopia - before missionaries and colonizers raped Africa.