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[Zack]

Can some one explain in detal and a time line when it happend. We remember how Fano and the Ethiopian army were chasing the TPLF and suddenly last year things changed. So what gives. What policy did Abiye ahmed took that Angered the Amhara so much Was it just that Abiye made peace with the tigrayans in south Africa.

What was Amhara policy kill all tigrayans the war to rage on. I mean what was the end game. And why did they fall out what are the profound reason Amhara revolt and Amhara and Abiye had a clash.

Do u some of you think it was the initial plan of Abiye in the begening to play the political game like this. Fight the Tigrayans consilidate power and not to defeat them. And after that use them to contain the Amhara.

Also what is Amhara fano stance on the Sovereignty of the Somali republic.

Dr Zackovich

[sun]

Can some one explain in detal and a time line when it happend. We remember how Fano and the Ethiopian army were chasing the TPLF and suddenly last year things changed. So what gives. What policy did Abiye ahmed took that Angered the Amhara so much Was it just that Abiye made peace with the tigrayans in south Africa.

What was Amhara policy kill all tigrayans the war to rage on. I mean what was the end game. And why did they fall out what are the profound reason Amhara revolt and Amhara and Abiye had a clash.

Do u some of you think it was the initial plan of Abiye in the begening to play the political game like this. Fight the Tigrayans consilidate power and not to defeat them. And after that use them to contain the Amhara.

Also what is Amhara fano stance on the Sovereignty of the Somali republic.

Dr Zackovich

They might stop the revolt if you undress your tattered dirty pants and then bow down so low so as to make it easy for them to sniff your dirty greasy back hole just to find out as to what kind of savage dirty wild pig you might be.

[Union]

Ascari

You know why. Why you wasting our time here

[Agazi General]

WAW MY AGAZI BRAZER, DIS IS THE QUESTION ZAT WILL MAKE ZEM FIGHT EVEN MORE. KEEP IT UP YEKENELEY WONDIME. GOBEZ.

[sarcasm]

Prof Mesay Kebede believes the Amhara Regional Forces and Fano uprising was internally supported by Amhara PP members and was supposed to put pressure on Oromo PP members and renegotiate oromara alliance after Pretoria deal.


የአማራ ክልል አመራር እስክንድርን ጠርተው ፋኖን ሲያስመርቁ፤ የክልሉ መዋቅር ከተሞችና ወረዳዎች ለፋኖ ሊያስረክቡ እየሰሩ ነበር። እንዴት ነው የአማራ ክልል አመራር ከመንግስት መዋቅር ውጭ የሆነ ኢመደበኛ ታጣቂ ሃይል እንዲመርቅ የሚጋበዘው? በመንግስት ላይ ጫና ለማድረግ ፈልገው ይሆን? ለዛ ነው ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ "በአማራ ክልል ውስጥ ከፌደራል መንግስት ጋር የተነሳው ችግር የአማራና የኦሮሞ ብልጽግናዎች ፍትግያ ወይም ፉክክር ነው።" ያለው።


በአማራ ክልል ውስጥ ከፌደራል መንግስት ጋር የተነሳው ችግር የአማራና የኦሮሞ ብልጽግናዎች ፍትግያ ወይም ፉክክር ነው። - ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ

[TesfaNews]

Simple

Pp used ENDF to tell all Amhara fano to disarm while forcing Liyu to join ENDF

This would erase Amhara autonomy

Let's say a terrorist group wants to invade Amhara well who will fight for Amhara?

Endf is rarely defending Amharas

[Dark Energy]

Guys,

You are not that smart are ya ? It is ethnic federation, stupid. Well, Welqait plays a role as well.

[Sam Ebalalehu]

Eden might have a point here. It is very hard for me to assume -- as like Eden -- the Amhara's PP faction of the party does not share the aim of FANO. Abiy has got the overwhelming support of the Amhara's at the outset because they believed he will tackle head-on the fallacy that the Amhara's are the enemy of Ethiopia doctrine as a false narrative. It is a theory concocted by students who have not read two books of any kind. Their ignorance of knowledge, however, has facilitated hearsays that has a life of its own to these days.
Yes, I do not believe any politics tainted with tribal doctrine will solve the problem that Ethiopia should address. But it is worthwhile remembering the Fano movement is a response to that of TPLF and OLF hearsays. As long as Ethiopians are dissected with tribal category in their politics, political factions that uses that dissection for its being existing are expected.

[sun]

Simple

Pp used ENDF to tell all Amhara fano to disarm while forcing Liyu to join ENDF

This would erase Amhara autonomy

Let's say a terrorist group wants to invade Amhara well who will fight for Amhara?

Endf is rarely defending Amharas

Simple cheap propaganda lies.

What is your Amhara autonomy cheap mantra when Amhra chauvinists are saying exactly the opposite of autonomy, that is to say, centralized unitary government just like his Majesty's bygone system whose renovated palace they are seeking to inherit.

Amharas have their own regional militia, police forces and fetino derash just like the Sudanese leader. Top generals in the army and security are Amharas which is very hard for you to admit because some pathological spineless liars told that they are dikalas/half cast like you.

All the other nations' and nationalities of Ethiopia have already integrated their unconventional armed units in to the various national forces with good salaries while some who wanted to go home and do something of their own were also sent home with compensations.

Only the pathological revenge seeking extremist fringe amhara outlaws refused to disarm, dreaming to fight and bring back their bygone tyrannical chauvinist feudal barberian domination of Ethiopians.

[sun]

Eden might have a point here. It is very hard for me to assume -- as like Eden -- the Amhara's PP faction of the party does not share the aim of FANO. Abiy has got the overwhelming support of the Amhara's at the outset because they believed he will tackle head-on the fallacy that the Amhara's are the enemy of Ethiopia doctrine as a false narrative. It is a theory concocted by students who have not read two books of any kind. Their ignorance of knowledge, however, has facilitated hearsays that has a life of its own to these days.
Yes, I do not believe any politics tainted with tribal doctrine will solve the problem that Ethiopia should address. But it is worthwhile remembering the Fano movement is a response to that of TPLF and OLF hearsays. As long as Ethiopians are dissected with tribal category in their politics, political factions that uses that dissection for its being existing are expected.

ato Asamaa,

No body said Amharas as a whole but Amhara ruling tribal elites who read only the handwritten kibre Nagast together with Aleka Barya's one volume scribble like you and couldn't understand the modern educated young people who read and debated on lots of global and local modern books and research literature, sending cold shocks down through your cursed spinal cord.

[sun]

Ascari

You know why. Why you wasting our time here

Monkey talks.

[TesfaNews]

There are 0 Amhara generals in ENDF

Ababaw taddese is Agaw

When Oromo militias were burning Ataye town the ENDF was silent and did not care to intervene

When Gumuz militias were massacring Amharas in metekel ENDF was silent and did not care to intervene

In fact ENDF would only show up once the massacres were finished and completed

This means ENDF is anti Amhara and does not care about Amhara genocide nor will it try to stop it.

The Amhara chant of taking 4kilo is a new thing it did not exist until 2023 after Abiy triggered a war. Simply the 4kilo thing is a mimic of TDF and isn't a real fano thing because 4kilo talk was unheard of in 2019-2022 in fano circles. In fact Fanos back then refused to become a political party even though I and Axumezana advised fano to become a political party and stop being so traditional because their is chaos ongoing. Fano refused to become organized and centralized for many years. So the talks of bringing a centralized Ethiopian government is a joke. Fano itself has yet to become centralized

Your duketam QOMAXA weyzero asmara will not understand until you go to welega and get captured by Shene and they will abduct you alive probably raaaape you too

[Sam Ebalalehu]

No. Sun, your beloved OLF and you have said the Amharas are the enemies. Now, an Oromo from Jimma is the prime minister of Ethiopia. You cannot say that. I understand. As for the ruling Amharas which still exist in your tribal politics infested mind of yours, I say they do not exist. If they have existed at all, they ceased to exist the very day the Deg proclaimed land to the tiller. Is that hard to understand, Sun?

[Abere]

Because the Amhara aspired for a civilized political and governance system - which they are fighting for it and are keep winning. Amhara are against the ethnic apartheid system which in the history of mankind existed in Apartheid South Africa. The Tigre-woyane and the Orommuma cults alone imposed ethnic apartheid called "Kilili aka kill those who do not speak your language. The entire so-called Dedebit Constitution was crafted to slaughter and ethnic cleanse or displace Amhara which is the largest ethnic group in the country. Amhara fought for over 27 years and finally deposed the Tigre-woyane and crowned the fake Abiy Ahmed. Amhara did not question his ethnicity or religion. But he finally betrayed them and got millions of their blood on his hand. Now, they chased him and his Orommuma ENDF like a dog out of their region. Amhara is the most assuredly will kick him out of Addis Ababa too. Fano will be the future Defense Force of Ethiopia. But, Ethiopia will remain a sovereign country and will no more be a play ground for foreign mercenaries.

[sun]

There are 0 Amhara generals in ENDF

Ababaw taddese is Agaw

When Oromo militias were burning Ataye town the ENDF was silent and did not care to intervene

When Gumuz militias were massacring Amharas in metekel ENDF was silent and did not care to intervene

In fact ENDF would only show up once the massacres were finished and completed

This means ENDF is anti Amhara and does not care about Amhara genocide nor will it try to stop it.

The Amhara chant of taking 4kilo is a new thing it did not exist until 2023 after Abiy triggered a war. Simply the 4kilo thing is a mimic of TDF and isn't a real fano thing because 4kilo talk was unheard of in 2019-2022 in fano circles. In fact Fanos back then refused to become a political party even though I and Axumezana advised fano to become a political party and stop being so traditional because their is chaos ongoing. Fano refused to become organized and centralized for many years. So the talks of bringing a centralized Ethiopian government is a joke. Fano itself has yet to become centralized

Your duketam QOMAXA weyzero asmara will not understand until you go to welega and get captured by Shene and they will abduct you alive probably raaaape you too

[sun]

No. Sun, your beloved OLF and you have said the Amharas are the enemies. Now, an Oromo from Jimma is the prime minister of Ethiopia. You cannot say that. I understand. As for the ruling Amharas which still exist in your tribal politics infested mind of yours, I say they do not exist. If they have existed at all, they ceased to exist the very day the Deg proclaimed land to the tiller. Is that hard to understand, Sun?

Yes on the ground the system does not exist now but it exists in your chauvinist mental land escapes and the likes of Abere the mad bere struggling day and night to bring back the dead tyranny. All of these outlaw gang ragtags local clashes are said to be the prelude for the planed conquest of the Ethiopian nations and nationalities all over Ethiopian and bring back Amhara elite real or imagined dictatorial domination. But will never happen!

[Misraq]

Brother Zack,

It was the so much accumulated grievances through time but the straw that broke the camels back was Gala PP decision to decommission "Liyu Hayle" or special forces of Amhara and the open decree to disarm Amhara farmers. This was after Pretoria though.

But Gallas savagery on Amharas in Oromia, the devastation of Ataye (North Shoa) for 5-6 times by OLF and Shimeles forces have already caused splits between the lower (wereda level) leaderships and Amhara region leaderships. So lower level leaderships were complacent to the training of Fano's.

The Galla Gurage Diqala Professor Mesay got it wrong on the interview posted. By the way Galla and Gurages diqalas are the worst enemy of Amhara. They have big mouth. We have one in this forum called Selam too. Anyways Abiy is foolish when he awake the sleeping giant Amhara. He thought he could easily subdue Amhara.

[Sam Ebalalehu]

Sun, I am not a chauvinist as you claim I am or I am, a tribalist as you wish it me to be. I am an Ethiopian. Wherever I introduce myself to whomever who might be, whatever nationality he or she belongs to, I say I was born and raised in East Africa that is called Ethiopia in the lovely city of Addis Abeba. I wonder how you introduce yourself to foreigners.
Sun, let me drill this truth to your fact avoiding dense brains: if Ethiopian tribal politicians and the cadres like you run the show blaming everybody but yourself for the mess the country is, I tell you, you are making the mistake the Adwa "geniuses" have made. As long as the enemy of Ethiopia blamed to be some other Ethiopians, there will never exist a peaceful time ever in Ethiopia. That is a fact.

[Zack]

Brother Zack,

It was the so much accumulated grievances through time but the straw that broke the camels back was Gala PP decision to decommission "Liyu Hayle" or special forces of Amhara and the open decree to disarm Amhara farmers. This was after Pretoria though.

But Gallas savagery on Amharas in Oromia, the devastation of Ataye (North Shoa) for 5-6 times by OLF and Shimeles forces have already caused splits between the lower (wereda level) leaderships and Amhara region leaderships. So lower level leaderships were complacent to the training of Fano's.

The Galla Gurage Diqala Professor Mesay got it wrong on the interview posted. By the way Galla and Gurages diqalas are the worst enemy of Amhara. They have big mouth. We have one in this forum called Selam too. Anyways Abiy is foolish when he awake the sleeping giant Amhara. He thought he could easily subdue Amhara.

Thanks for putting it into perspective it makes sense now
so there was not one incident that had a chain reaction but there were mulitple incidents that caused it


Dr Zackovich

[sarcasm]

Eden might have a point here. It is very hard for me to assume -- as like Eden -- the Amhara's PP faction of the party does not share the aim of FANO.

Abiy know what Amhara PP are doing. That is why he keeps telling them in every meeting እኛ በመጣንበት አትሞክሩ

aroud 45:06 ብልፅግና እንደ ኢህአዴግ ከውስጥ አይፈርስም

around 23:39 እኛ በመጣንበት የውስጥ ትግል አታሸንፉንም