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[DefendTheTruth]

If this world is fair, then no one can stop Ethiopia from making a deal with her neighbors on what she deemed necessary for her national interest. Who has ever interfered when US made a deal with Mexico or Canada, as an example?

Ethiopia is a sovereign state, Somaliland has been administering its affairs for over 30 years now without any interference from outside. Leave us alone!

What Somalia's issues? Is it about "don't make a deal" or is it about "make the deal with itself" on something it has never come nearer for over 30 years?

[Noble Amhara]

I can't wait to see the next OroEthio-Somalia war started by noble peace prize winner

Happy new year

[TesfaNews]

[Fiyameta]

If you want to make port deals, reach out to the federal government of Somalia. Somaliland is only the Tigray Kilil of Greater Somalia.

[DefendTheTruth]

If you want to make port deals, reach out to the federal government of Somalia. Somaliland is only the Tigray Kilil of Greater Somalia.

How do you think that should be a case? Make a deal on something that it never come near for over 30 years?

Somaliland is defacto an independent, and more importantly also democratic, state. Their right to self-determination should be respected, as enshrined in the charter of UN itself.

Why you think Eritrea has deserved the same right and Somaliland should be denied it??

But there is no logic in the land of one man rule over the whole generation.

[DefendTheTruth]

ምሁራንስ ምን ይላሉ፣ ስለጉዳዩ? ይህኚ ፕሮፌሰር እንደ እኔ የሰሙትን ሳይሆን፣ የምያዉቁትን ነዉ የምናገሩት።

[sesame]

What Abiy did shows that he is an idiot. He has no principle or understanding what is right an wrong. His idiotic actions keep backfiring on him. Less that 24 hours after he unveiled his new year prank, the whole world has condemned him. It shows that he had not consulted with anyone on this brazen action that infringes on the sovereignty of a neighbour. Abiyot has again inserted a loaded gun in his assss and pulled the trigger.

[DefendTheTruth]

Eritrean burning envy aside what do the people of the issues at hand say about the deal?

This is primarily an issue of the Somaliland-ians on one side and that of Ethiopians on the other. The rest, including Somalia, can clap its hands from the sideline or burn from a pure envy like the Eritrean mobs on this forum and elsewhere. At the end of the day this will boil down to demanding the right to self-determination, without any sort of influence or interference from outside.

Somalia is duty bound to accept the will of the people it claims is under its jurisdiction.

The government in Somaliland is democratically elected by the will of the people who live there, unlike the government in Somalia proper. As such it has the legitimacy and mandate to decide on issues pertaining to the future of the people who gave it power, while the government in Mogadishu has no proper mandate to decide on anything pertaining the Somali people of Somalia proper itself. That government in Mogadishu must have also known that much as some try to point out now.

Thousands of Welsh Somalilanders are celebrating an historic agreement with Ethiopia that has given their country formal recognition by another African nation for the first time, more than 30 years after it effectively gained its independence following a bloody civil war.

In May 1991 Somaliland – a former British protectorate in northeast Africa – broke away from Somalia following years of repression under the brutal dictatorship of Siad Barre. Since then it has established itself as a rare beacon for democracy in the continent, having seen a succession of peaceful transitions of power following properly conducted elections.

Until now, however, the country has failed to secure the formal recognition many believe it deserves. With the single exception of Taiwan, the international community has taken the view that Somaliland should reconnect with the failed state of Somalia.

https://nation.cymru/news/welsh-somalil ... tion-deal/

[sesame]

DTT, have a little self-respect and ask yourself why the whole world is against what your immature leader is doing. You have to understand that he is not going to get a port this way. It is just a prank designed to garner support for his dying PP government. Get this, Ethiopia will never get ownership of the sea by legal or illegal means. You have to learn to accept this fact Moreover, Abiy is taking Ethiopia down the drain. Unless he is stopped now, you will not have an Ethiopia that needs access to the sea. You will be butchering each other for the next decade.

[Cigar]

Sesame you are too kind to these nut cases.
I tried to be diplomatic like our leadership and wished them the best so long they respect Eritrea and Eritreans.
Man did I try, but taken as a fool or as if my country is weak that we were being nice or diplomatic to them.
I reached to the point that unless they take off the horse blinkers they have in their eyes and adhere to our advice they are going to take their already broken country to the gutter which eventually their neighbors including Eritrea will suffer due to them being refugees all over to save selves from the butchering of each other which will come their way.

[Zack]

If you want to make port deals, reach out to the federal government of Somalia. Somaliland is only the Tigray Kilil of Greater Somalia.

The problem lets say Abiye Ahmed signs a deal with the President of Somalia in Mogadishu that he wants to lease land in Somaliland , Abiye Ahmed signs a deal with the president of Somalia. Which is Fine its the Right way to do Business . But here is the catch the moment Abiye Ahmed shows the agreement hassan and Abiye signed and he shows it to the Officials of Somaliland that this land was given to him ,and they will look at the paper and throw it in the Bin. Now how does that work , you do know the Federal goverment of Somalia has absolutly no physical control over, Somaliland it doesnt have any control over Puntland which is the Neighbour of Somaliland. The Federal goverment was established in 2003.

The Puntland Administration was established in in 1998 , the Somaliland Administration was established in in 1991. The best way forward is to support Dialogue between Somalia and Somaliland to establish good will either unite or formally separate that only will solve the problem and madness . This how ever isnt going to last we are not united and we are fragile against Ethiopia and Ethiopia can use the weak states of Somalia against the Federal government.
i saw this coming Kenya does the same it uses Jubbaland against the Federal Goverment of somalia .Jubbaland was created in 2013 . Jubaland is unique it self it was also a british Protectorate which was later sold to Italian Somalia.
Galmudug was created in 2006 and there are two other states in Somalia dont know when they were created.

Dr Zackovich

[Naga Tuma]

Their right to self-determination should be respected, as enshrined in the charter of UN itself.

Has the UN, and more importantly, the AU that is beholden to colonial landmarks, at least so far, made any determination about it?

[Fiyameta]

If you want to make port deals, reach out to the federal government of Somalia. Somaliland is only the Tigray Kilil of Greater Somalia.

The problem lets say Abiye Ahmed signs a deal with the President of Somalia in Mogadishu that he wants to lease land in Somaliland , Abiye Ahmed signs a deal with the president of Somalia. Which is Fine its the Right way to do Business . But here is the catch the moment Abiye Ahmed shows the agreement hassan and Abiye signed and he shows it to the Officials of Somaliland that this land was given to him ,and they will look at the paper and throw it in the Bin. Now how does that work , you do know the Federal goverment of Somalia has absolutly no physical control over, Somaliland it doesnt have any control over Puntland which is the Neighbour of Somaliland. The Federal goverment was established in 2003.

The Puntland Administration was established in in 1998 , the Somaliland Administration was established in in 1991. The best way forward is to support Dialogue between Somalia and Somaliland to establish good will either unite or formally separate that only will solve the problem and madness . This how ever isnt going to last we are not united and we are fragile against Ethiopia and Ethiopia can use the weak states of Somalia against the Federal government.
i saw this coming Kenya does the same it uses Jubbaland against the Federal Goverment of somalia .Jubbaland was created in 2013 . Jubaland is unique it self it was also a british Protectorate which was later sold to Italian Somalia.
Galmudug was created in 2006 and there are two other states in Somalia dont know when they were created.

Dr Zackovich

It's not about who controls the territory, it is about international law that says "sovereign power is an absolute power." It is Somalia that has sovereignty, and sovereign power, hence it is the absolute power. Can Tigray sign deals with other nations? If the answer is no, then neither can Somaliand. It's as simple as that!

[Zack]

You are right Somalia is the one that has Sovereignty to enter deals Because this legitmacy has been bestowed on The Somali goverment by the western powers. But in the eyes of the Somalis in general , The goverment in Mogadishu isnt their legitimate goverment hence why the Local goverment has more power. And then there is the other scenario which is what ever deal for example Somalia govt signs for lets say Puntland with a chinese company to fish on Ras alula and bender beyle
Puntland waters . The Somali goverment lacks the power enfore its Sovereignty and make sure that the Chinese company is safe in Puntland to fish if Puntland rejects the deal the deal is off, but the goverment in Somalia can sign it yes from a legal point of view but when it comes to implementing such deals it wont fly unless the goverment of Puntland agrees . You see my point. It was only since 2012 since the Somali goverment was truely recognised by the United states as the true goverment for Somalia. Prior to that there wasnt. Also we like to note on this issue prior to 2012 All Somali presidents were elected inside Kenya or in Djibouti. This damages the legitimacy also Legitimacy and Sovreignty go hand hand.

Dr Zackovich