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It is a good sign. People are buying weapons to defend themselves and their property. Ethiopia is not America where you can buy a weapon legally.

Abe Abraham,

there is a saying which goes like "it takes huge effort to reach at the top, but it takes even more to stay at the top" or something like this.

I remembered this saying after reading your comment here. You have been someone who stayed above the frey and adhered to the principle of logic, and this is already a privilege in my view. When you start to deviate from this usual course, then you will be also much flashy to those who used to read you, like myself, in here.

So, my friend, my little tip to you is to stay the course and remain loyal to your usual way.

Actually, I didn't link the tweet for the text of the message, rather it was out of my impression about the photo of Iskinder Nega standing amid the so called Fano (warlords).

I hope and think that you wished the people of Ethiopia and, specially the Amhara people, that their future would be bright.

Greatness can't come through running around and toting one's guns and calling to others "come and face us" slogan. If every village or region turn to toting its guns then the ensuing scene will only be a mere ruines. We have already seen that very recently and the memory is fresh.

Vigillanti is only for periods of emergencies and those periods have been lifted by the legislative body of the country before few days.

Cheers!

[sun]

Sam,

I think there is something that you have to get straight here.

When Daud Ibsa declared publicly ማንም ማንንም ትጥቅ አያስፈታም we all called back then but this situation is a war-lordism, many different actors running around toting their guns. That was in 2018, I think.

Now fast forward into 2022 Fano is saying the same thing, ማንም ማንንም ትጥቅ አያስፈታም፣ the problem now is that we were not told when the meaning of the expression also changed.

I don't know why you mix up completely unrelated issues and pretend they are one and the same. You remember when OLF returned from Eritrea as all other warring oppositions groups agreed and came to wage a peaceful political engagement. Fano fought Weyanes with Arms while Queero waged a peaceful one, so Fano after the change came they didn't pose any problem for the government. When weyane started an attack on the government, Fanons sided with ENDF and fought beside the ENDF. When the government by it's own admission confessed that it can not defeat weyanes by a regular means and called to the public to join in to defend the country , Fano's responded massively to fight Weyane's by all means . The government folded like a house of cards leaving city after city letting weyanes getting closer to Addis. It is a month or so ago, if you remember. Weyanes still have a potent force to threaten the federal government .Because Abiy started to dance with them behind close doors dosn't make them less threatening. Not weyaes or Shennes that are grabbing your attention , but Fanos .. take care of weyanes and sheeene murderous then we can talk about Fanos . The government can not defend its own people look what is going on in AFAR , and Amharas remember how Abiy left Mekele hastily and exposed Amharas for Weyane tank and mechanized army. So Amharas are threatened by Weyane and the so-called shenne so to Ask fano to disarm is a foolhardy proposition. I agree though that FANO needs to have a structure and a leadership that is recognized by the people and government. That is not now though, First have guaranteed security first, which is none exists at this time.

Hmm...

Who has taken away guaranteed security from Fanno? I think that they have full security guarantee like all Ethiopians if not more. The problem might be the idea of some Fannos continuously taking the law in to their own hands grabbing territories and vowing to finish Wayane completely from the face of the earth once and for all as well as constantly blaming and accusing the ENDF to the extent of planning attacks on them just like the tplf because now some pretender pretending to be Fannos started dreaming Asaminew and tplf style criminal rogue activities.

And that makes some western circles worried and angry to say the least because they think that borders should not be changed through violence means but only through sustainable viable legal channels.

Even a certain elderly Amhara general released from jail who joined the battle was saying that he will never accept any order or any instruction from any worldly creatures because he is the all knowing totally independent actor who wants to depend on his own free independent will power alone.

Very funny anarchist attitude really specially when we know that the military organization by definition is very hierarchical establishment where orders and commands start from the top and flows down through the middle ranks to the grass roots.

" I think that they have full security guarantee like all Ethiopians if not more. The problem might be the idea of some Fannos continuously taking the law in to their own hands grabbing territories and vowing to finish Wayane completely from the face of the earth once."
It is tiresome to try to convince a cadre because they can not even keep the words they say a week earlier. Who's security is guaranteed in today's Ethiopia, Amhara's , Afars who's? How did you guarantee when Amhara's slaughtered in Makdra , Guda Ferda, Metekel where is the security. Wasn't a week ago we heard the report 160 Amhara farmers were killed in west Wellega . TPLF's who committed this heinous against ENDF and Against Amharas and Afars should be held responsible. what territories are you talking about? Wasn't Abiy's belsignat who came out saying that they can't defend the Ethiopian people using the regular army .. you are not suffering from Amnesia? Don't you remember this war statred because the TPLF attacked ENDF so it is not Amharas or Afars war it is Fedral Government's war , but you left the death and destruction for Amharas and Afars who wasn't prepared for ENDF rushed withdrawal from Meklee leaving the tank and all rocket and heavy weponry for TPLF. That is what you call Security guaranteed like all "other Ethiopians". Even know Weyeans are armed up to their teeth -- I haven't heard you say that they need to be disarmed completely. Isn't Abiy's parlament that lebeled TPLF a terorist organization including savage shenees . so much for your security.
Now Since you, reasons are all holes, you are taking what the "world "says-- don't consider Abiy's wiggling tail for American servitude a justification for Amharas fano disarmement . Take care the disarming of the terorist TPLF and Terorist Shenne then you will sound reasonable to talk bout Fanos. can you do that ? Here is your foolhardy argument the suppose western circles angry that the borders "should not be changed through violence" So changing the border violently is an exclusive privilege of Weyanes. Not only weyane change the border it depopulated it and settle tigrian highlanders there. This is a fact. If one good came out of the weyane war Amharas got the gun. Let the one's with a ball come and take it out of their hand.

I am not a politician but yet what is the big issue now after the tplf have been beaten roundly as to become an impotent old tired parrot.
But still there can be some sort of risk if a segment of may be unruly and undisciplined autonomous "Fonnos" mixed with other Amhara extreme nationalists keep on pushing on their own as if they are a government within a government thereby feeling that they have got all the guns as well all the balls so as to not needing to obey the law of the land and the government of the day, ignoring instructions, orders and rules by claiming that they must keep pushing to the end of the line and complete the holy mission by cleaning the tplf as a whole.

Yes teaching Wayane how to behave and disarming them would have been good and God blessed for feeling secure from their habitual endless threat theaters, but then what guarantee can they have as people that they may not face genocide from the side of the wounded adversaries and angry adversaries, say, if they can't even defend themselves nominally? But as for the current Fannos what can the current impotent and toothless tplf who lost both its balls and its teeth able to do in terms of security of lives and limbs.

Mr. Sun , Let me see what you are saying : You say TPLF has been roundly beaten and now is impotent? I don't think our Afar Brother will agree with you. Weyenes still have the have weaponry including tanks, not only that the Afars have been openly complaining the Federal government is letting them destroyed byTPLF by not taking appropriate counter-offensive against Weyan's aggression. It is the Afar Administration saying that, nobody else . Do you think any sain Amhara would let that happen in its land as it happened two-three months ago? Over Amhara's dead body. The Federal force has proved itself to be an unreliable partner." ጅብ ከሄደ ውሻ ጮሀ" happened too many times for Amharas thay became a victim of weyane Mercenary time and again .In Oromia there is a government within a government (OLF)-supported, by OPDO members, it trains openly, collects tax openly and controls a vast land, and commits a targeted attack mainly on Amharas and other groups as well. Fannos on the other hand did their part in the downfall of weyanee, they went in to save ENDF when it was ambushed by weyeane, and they stood and are fighting with EDF wholeheartedly, and You don't hear they robbing Banks 18 times, killing tourists etc as OLF has done (robbing in Millions of bill ) what we have is a concerted effort to soil the Fannos who are protecting their villages from invaders and defending Ethiopia with their brothers and sisters. Remove all the threats from Amharas from Weyaness and OLF and Amhara hate poliics , we all be with the government. What you are arguing is based on a supposition they become outlaws and take the law in their hands. That is not the reality, the reality is the Amhara enemies are killing them without the government officially condemning the act of Ethnic cleansing against them. If there are bad apples among them the state and the other law-abiding fannos will take action.

what guarantee can they (TPLFs) have as people that they may not face genocide from the side of the wounded adversaries and angry adversaries?

You see your argument betrays you if you look closer. Weyanes are the most armed and trained society in Ethiopia ( Trained and armed by Ethiopian taxpayers ) They threatened to overthrow the government by arms they got so close for comfort. The devastation the cause in Amhara and Afar is incalculable --not only in life and property but also psychologically. Oromia is far from that torturous experience. If you want to bring about security the first thing that needs to be done is dismantle the special forces and Militians in all kills and create a national army and local police. Then disarm the rest but you can not disarm Amharas because Tigrian feels a threat from Amhara and expose Amharas by disarming it. You secure all or secure nothing.

Hmm...

I am not a politician by any definition of the word other than being a concerned citizen. Ethiopia is a classic Kushitic state who used to have strong kingdoms ruling over the territories of lower Egypt and other areas. And that is partly why it is really enchanting to the imagination of humanities and communities all over the globe and make them feel that they were Ethiopians in their previous life. Back to the main topic.

In fact my argument does not betray me because I enjoy its loyalty but betrays the the tplf who repeatedly betrayed/ betraying the Ethiopian government and the Ethiopian people using its material, human and social capitals accumulated from the bloods and sweats of the Ethiopian people for the last some 30 long years. Qerros and Fannos joined hands and removed the tplf from power once and for all. And this disarming project needs to be complete and conclusive because any armament in the hands of the tplf does not seem to be for rational self protection but for the purpose of shooting and looting others like always in which case the disarming needs to be a joint project by all Ethiopians in the form ENDF, etc., while assuring the Tigriyan people believable security of life and limbs guarantees as Ethiopians. Otherwise tplf's plan is to march over to Addis Ababa and take over the government by all means possible be it sooner or later.

[sarcasm]

እስክንድር ለፋኖ መሪነት ራሱ እያዘጋጀ ነው

#የአማራ ፋኖ በይፋት (ማጀቴ) ኮማንዶዎችን የባልደራስ አመራሮች ባሉበት እያስመረቀ ነው
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#የአማራ ፋኖ በይፋት (ማጀቴ) ያሰለጠናቸውን ኮማንዶዎች በማጀቴ የፋኖ መሪ የሆኑት ፈለቀ ሙላቱ እና የባልደራስ ለእውነተኛ ዴሞክራሲ ፓርቲ (ባልደራስ) አመራሮች ፕሬዚደንት እስክንድር ነጋ እና የአደረጃጀት ጉዳዮች ሓላፊው አቶ ስንታየሁ ቸኮል በክብር እንግድነት በተገኙበት እያስመረቀ ነው።

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[sarcasm]

የአማራ ክልል አመራር እስክንድርን ጠርተው ፋኖን ሲያስመርቁ፤ የክልሉ መዋቅር ከተሞችና ወረዳዎች ለፋኖ ሊያስረክቡ እየሰሩ ነበር። እንዴት ነው የአዲስ አበባ ፓርቲ ከconstituancyው ውጭ ከመንግስት መዋቅር ውጭ የሆነ ኢመደበኛ ታጣቂ ሃይል እንዲመርቅ የመጋበዘው፧

እስክንድር ለፋኖ መሪነት ራሱ እያዘጋጀ ነው

#የአማራ ፋኖ በይፋት (ማጀቴ) ኮማንዶዎችን የባልደራስ አመራሮች ባሉበት እያስመረቀ ነው
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#የአማራ ፋኖ በይፋት (ማጀቴ) ያሰለጠናቸውን ኮማንዶዎች በማጀቴ የፋኖ መሪ የሆኑት ፈለቀ ሙላቱ እና የባልደራስ ለእውነተኛ ዴሞክራሲ ፓርቲ (ባልደራስ) አመራሮች ፕሬዚደንት እስክንድር ነጋ እና የአደረጃጀት ጉዳዮች ሓላፊው አቶ ስንታየሁ ቸኮል በክብር እንግድነት በተገኙበት እያስመረቀ ነው።

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[sarcasm]

የአማራ ክልል አመራር እስክንድርን ጠርተው ፋኖን ሲያስመርቁ፤ የክልሉ መዋቅር ከተሞችና ወረዳዎች ለፋኖ ሊያስረክቡ እየሰሩ ነበር። እንዴት ነው የአማራ ክልል አመራር ከመንግስት መዋቅር ውጭ የሆነ ኢመደበኛ ታጣቂ ሃይል እንዲመርቅ የሚጋበዘው? በመንግስት ላይ ጫና ለማድረግ ፈልገው ይሆን? ለዛ ነው ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ "በአማራ ክልል ውስጥ ከፌደራል መንግስት ጋር የተነሳው ችግር የአማራና የኦሮሞ ብልጽግናዎች ፍትግያ ወይም ፉክክር ነው።" ያለው።


በአማራ ክልል ውስጥ ከፌደራል መንግስት ጋር የተነሳው ችግር የአማራና የኦሮሞ ብልጽግናዎች ፍትግያ ወይም ፉክክር ነው። - ፕሮፌሰር መሳይ ከበደ

የአማራ ክልል አመራር እስክንድርን ጠርተው ፋኖን ሲያስመርቁ፤ የክልሉ መዋቅር ከተሞችና ወረዳዎች ለፋኖ ሊያስረክቡ እየሰሩ ነበር። እንዴት ነው የአዲስ አበባ ፓርቲ ከconstituancyው ውጭ ከመንግስት መዋቅር ውጭ የሆነ ኢመደበኛ ታጣቂ ሃይል እንዲመርቅ የመጋበዘው፧

እስክንድር ለፋኖ መሪነት ራሱ እያዘጋጀ ነው

#የአማራ ፋኖ በይፋት (ማጀቴ) ኮማንዶዎችን የባልደራስ አመራሮች ባሉበት እያስመረቀ ነው
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#የአማራ ፋኖ በይፋት (ማጀቴ) ያሰለጠናቸውን ኮማንዶዎች በማጀቴ የፋኖ መሪ የሆኑት ፈለቀ ሙላቱ እና የባልደራስ ለእውነተኛ ዴሞክራሲ ፓርቲ (ባልደራስ) አመራሮች ፕሬዚደንት እስክንድር ነጋ እና የአደረጃጀት ጉዳዮች ሓላፊው አቶ ስንታየሁ ቸኮል በክብር እንግድነት በተገኙበት እያስመረቀ ነው።

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[Abere]

TDF, sarcasm, why are you worried so much about Eskindir Nega's APF movement? While you had been the tdf warlord who lots million poor souls in an aimless battle, you are now pretending to be high caliber warlord and have the moral ground to critque Eskindir the great

The result speaks for itself, look, within few months from scratch Eskidnir Nega dismissed or paralysed all the BEADEN-PP (EPRDF) structure now mobilizing several command and Birgades. It took 3 weeks to defeat TPLF and chase out of Mekelle, but it has been impossible to defeat Fano in almost half a year. In stead, Abiy Ahmed is a nightmare to protect Addis Ababa. Anyway, the same day Addis Ababa is freed so would Mekelle.

[Misraq]

TDF, sarcasm, why are you worried so much about Eskindir Nega's APF movement? While you had been the tdf warlord who lots million poor souls in an aimless battle, you are now pretending to be high caliber warlord and have the moral ground to critque Eskindir the great

The result speaks for itself, look, within few months from scratch Eskidnir Nega dismissed or paralysed all the BEADEN-PP (EPRDF) structure now mobilizing several command and Birgades. It took 3 weeks to defeat TPLF and chase out of Mekelle, but it has been impossible to defeat Fano in almost half a year. In stead, Abiy Ahmed is a nightmare to protect Addis Ababa. Anyway, the same day Addis Ababa is freed so would Mekelle.

We can safely say that Sarcasm is an inner operative of the TPLF. He predicted Eskinders move to the armed struggle way earlier and this requires some level of intellegence service research and analysis. So we know TPLF, HGDEF and PP inner opperatives in this forum

It won't be long before i ID brother sarcasm. a bold fat shorty ugly agame with 80% accuracy for now. i will expose him once i get to 95% accuracy

[sarcasm]

We can safely say that Sarcasm is an inner operative of the TPLF. He predicted Eskinders move to the armed struggle way earlier and this requires some level of intellegence service research and analysis. So we know TPLF, HGDEF and PP inner opperatives in this forum

It won't be long before i ID brother sarcasm. a bold fat shorty ugly agame with 80% accuracy for now. i will expose him once i get to 95% accuracy

The war was over and Pretoria Agreement was signed when he came out of the prison. But Eskindir was sort of campaigning for war and trying to show his allegiance to Abiy if he decides to start another round of war against Tigray. It was obvious he has chosen the path of war from his first interview.

I think it all stems from his biggest miscalculation about Abiy's position on Tigrayan territories unconstitutionally annexed by Amhara Region. That miscalculation lead him to conclude that another war between Tigray and Abiy was imminent. I saved the below clip to post it in March 2022 and decided not to post it. When I watched the below error of judgement, I knew Eskindir was going down the hill.

Btw, thanks for the complement : ) If I am this good without any support, imagine how good I would be if had an institution's support!


የኦሮሞ ብልጽግና ለትግራይ 'ሑመራን ለአማራ ክልል አሳልፈህ ሰጥተህ ነው፤ አንተ ከኔ ጋር ተስማማ' የሚለው ያለው። ለሕወሓት አይዋጣውም፤ ጦርነቱ ዳግም መለኮሱ አይቀርም። - እስክንድር ነጋ

[Abere]

tdf, sarcasm, ምን ፈልገህ ነው ከእስክንድር ነጋ ጫንቃ ላይ ቁጢጥ ማለት የተመኘኸው?ይህ ዐርበኛ ለድፍን ኢትዮጵያ የነጻነት መሰረት የማዕዘን ድንጋይ የሚሆን ነው እንጅ ከዴዴቢት በርሃ የተፈነቀለ ተራ ድንጋይ አይደለም። ዕንቁ የኢትዮጵያ ልጅ ሰው ሲጠፋ ሰው ሁኖ የተገኘ - በእሳት የተፈተነ ጀግና ነው። በዝሆን ላይ የተለጠፈች ወፍ ዝሆን የሆነች ይመስላታል እንድሉ ስለ እስክንድር ለቃቅመህ ስለለጠፍ የእስክንድርን ስብዕና መልበስ አትችልም።