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How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by Zmeselo » 21 Oct 2023, 00:44


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Re: How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by Zmeselo » 21 Oct 2023, 01:07



After listening to the EBCโ€™s editorialist below, as well as reading papers from some Ethiopian analysts, I felt both disappointed and offended. Indeed, for so long and under the leadership of President Guelleh, I have been fortunate to have and I continue to serve an outstanding regional leader and a wise man who has always worked for regional and continental economic integration and collective wellbeing.

President IOG has given his all to make exemplary, this community of destiny of the HoA (Horn of Africa), and particularly in crafting this exceptional relationship and win-win partnership between Djibouti & Ethiopia.

The EBC's World comments cannot but appeal to any wise observer of our regional geopolitics.

In another way, let me emphasize quickly as bellow:

1- I don't want to dwell on the rationality of the argument, I'll leave that to others.

2- However, the false figures of billions of dollars ยซ paid to Djibouti ยป and often putted forward by our Ethiopian friends do not correspond to any reality.

Indeed, The bulk of the costs of Transit via Djibouti corridor (including the cost of ports Handling charges) is more linked to ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ

- Hinterland transportation cost, 99% of the Transports market controlled by Ethiopian Transports Compagnies.
-Cost of Ethiopian forwarding agents is anytime Superior than the one of Djiboutian Forwarders.
- The commission charged by Ethiopian Shipping Lines for each and every Container is almost equivalent to the cost of the Shipping Lines (just as a matter of fact, ESL is only chartering slots of Major Shipping principals and not transporting by its own vessels). Should we consider that commission as a net profit to ESL?
3- Comparison for comparison, the THC (Terminal Handling Charges) paid by goods for Djibouti Imports is more than 4 times expensive than that paid for goods in transit to Ethiopia. In another terms, Ethiopians have more privileges than our own Djiboutian fellows.
4- Djibouti Corridor Roads, which are currently under rehabilitation, are very often and rapidly deteriorated, due to the poor policy or lack of axle load standards respect.
overloaded trucks (compared to those of the COMESA or EAC region) is a source of rapid deterioration of roads Infrastrutures.

Meanwhile, I must confess also that we were not enough proactive in the maintenance program of the roads as well as in the discipline of axels load rules. And I do understand the frustration from drivers (this must be corrected in the future).

I don't want to get into a pointless and unnecessary debate, However, I am disappointed that the EBC World presentation makes no mention of the fact that Djibouti's ports world-renowned performance have enabled Ethiopia's economic transformation and the Competitiveness of the Ethiopian economy, over the past two decades.

If Ethiopia's continued double-digit growth is appreciated by the whole world (me first), we firmly believe that Djibouti's ports and corridor have been able to meet the needs of our neighbor and principal partner, with great sacrifice.

Finally, would like to mention & reappraise the joint investments made by these two sister countries, which over the past decade have exceeded or to be exceeded $10 billion. These Co-Investments are not the fruits of amateurism, but rather a shared vision of our leaders, and the aspirations of a shared regional communities of destiny.

Now more than ever, our region needs more togetherness, more economic integration, more mutual respect and, above all, more peace and stability among Brother ms & Sisters, in order to reap the rewards of collective regional development.And fight collectively against our common enemy ยซ Poverty ยป.

And not the opposite Pathway.

Please Note:This tweet is on my own and not engaging the Gov. Itโ€™s about my personal feelings & sentiments. Soon I will share exact figures as far as the subject is made public.

So Please STOP NONSENSE. Djiboutiโ€™s ports are not source of lack of competitiveness.๐Ÿ™

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Re: How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by Temt » 21 Oct 2023, 01:30

Haw true brother Zmeselo. I sure was hoodwinked by this guy, PM Abiy of แŠฃแˆตแŒฆแ‰ฅแ‹ซ! What a fake and untrustworthy liar he turned out to be!

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Re: How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by Zmeselo » 21 Oct 2023, 01:38

Temt wrote: โ†‘
21 Oct 2023, 01:30
Haw true brother Zmeselo. I sure was hoodwinked by this guy, PM Abiy of แŠฃแˆตแŒฆแ‰ฅแ‹ซ! What a fake and untrustworthy liar he turned out to be!
US-PP-TPLF axis:

Mehari the nutjob's document๐Ÿ‘‡ likely legit - TPLF told its army, post Pretoria, that their new strategy is to work with US incl. on Red Sea issue (*as Tsadkan wanted) but its soldiers are tired of war.

PP recently said, superpowers support its Red Sea ambition.



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Re: How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by Zmeselo » 21 Oct 2023, 01:53

แŒฝแ‰ฃแˆ• แŠฅแŠ•แ‰ณแ‹ญ แ‹ญแ‰ฅแˆ‰แก แŠฅแŠ•แ‹ตแ‹’ แ‹ตแŠฃแˆแ‰ แˆญ...


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Re: How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by Digital Weyane » 21 Oct 2023, 02:23

แ‹ฐแ‹ตแˆ•แˆช แ‹ˆแ‹ซแА แˆแŠธแ‹ฐ แˆ“แˆพแ‰ต แˆˆแˆ˜แ‹ฐ แŠปแˆ แ‹แ‰ฃแˆƒแˆแฃ แŠ แ‰ขแ‹ญ แŠ แ‹แ‰ฐแŠ• แŠ แ‹ แ‰ตแŒแˆซแ‹ญ แˆแˆต แ‹ˆแ‹ซแА แ‹แˆ€แˆจแˆฐแˆˆแŠ• แ‰แˆฉแ‰ฅ แ‹“แˆ˜แ‰ณแ‹แ‰ฒ แˆแˆ•แˆปแ‹ แ‰ฐแˆ‹แˆšแ‹ฑ แŠฅแ‹ฉ แˆ‹แ‰ฅ แ‹“แ‹ฑ แ‰ฐแˆ˜แˆŠแˆนแข :roll: :roll:

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Re: How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by Somaliman » 21 Oct 2023, 06:44

How were we wrong, having trusted this guy?

Never trust a mercenary, wolf, or clown, as they never make good friends.

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Re: How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by Dark Energy » 21 Oct 2023, 09:29

Zmeselo,

Why would you trust him ? Who is we ? Who was elected to represent the Eritrean people, to trust the fโ€™kkkking twerp ?

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Re: How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by Zmeselo » 21 Oct 2023, 10:46

Here's the "we"!






Dark Energy wrote: โ†‘
21 Oct 2023, 09:29
Zmeselo,

Why would you trust him ? Who is we ? Who was elected to represent the Eritrean people, to trust the fโ€™kkkking twerp ?

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Re: How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by quindibu » 21 Oct 2023, 15:34

As a big nation (population wise), Ethiopia, unfortunately, has never been blessed with leaders that reflect its size. As someone who grew up in Ethiopia, I know Ethiopians in general are God-fearing and generous people........

Unlike the Agames who used to cheer whenever they hear from their inept leaders a pending doom and gloom, many Ethiopians on the social media, I observed, have been horrified and embarrassed by what transpired in their name in the last few weeks.

My humble advise to my fellow Eritreans is- to keep our cool and deprive the trolls and cadres the oxygen they need.......

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Re: How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by Sadacha Macca » 21 Oct 2023, 22:27

If he worked his whole life as a tplf spy in oromia, helping them target Oromos, then it's certainly not surprising that he'd betray anyone else. Not to mention the obvious fact: all of Ethiopias leaders have historically been puppets of whoever sends it aid.

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Re: How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by Misraq » 21 Oct 2023, 22:59

quindibu wrote: โ†‘
21 Oct 2023, 15:34
As a big nation (population wise), Ethiopia, unfortunately, has never been blessed with leaders that reflect its size. As someone who grew up in Ethiopia, I know Ethiopians in general are God-fearing and generous people........

Unlike the Agames who used to cheer whenever they hear from their inept leaders a pending doom and gloom, many Ethiopians on the social media, I observed, have been horrified and embarrassed by what transpired in their name in the last few weeks.

My humble advise to my fellow Eritreans is- to keep our cool and deprive the trolls and cadres the oxygen they need.......

Thank you sir. Unfortunately we are seeing Eritreans attacking us for the behavior of Oromuma and it's cadres. Most Eritreans are doing exactly what Abiy wants them to do

I don't see on what Eritrea benefits by attacking Amharas who are at odd both with TPLF and PP. Very counter productive move

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Post by Zmeselo » 22 Oct 2023, 04:04

You are a snake! Prove it!

Which Eritrean here attacked Amara?

You're the one attempting to mock us by claiming
this guy betrayed you, that guy betrayed you
blah..blah...

Misraq wrote: โ†‘
21 Oct 2023, 22:59
quindibu wrote: โ†‘
21 Oct 2023, 15:34
As a big nation (population wise), Ethiopia, unfortunately, has never been blessed with leaders that reflect its size. As someone who grew up in Ethiopia, I know Ethiopians in general are God-fearing and generous people........

Unlike the Agames who used to cheer whenever they hear from their inept leaders a pending doom and gloom, many Ethiopians on the social media, I observed, have been horrified and embarrassed by what transpired in their name in the last few weeks.

My humble advise to my fellow Eritreans is- to keep our cool and deprive the trolls and cadres the oxygen they need.......

Thank you sir. Unfortunately we are seeing Eritreans attacking us for the behavior of Oromuma and it's cadres. Most Eritreans are doing exactly what Abiy wants them to do

I don't see on what Eritrea benefits by attacking Amharas who are at odd both with TPLF and PP. Very counter productive move

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Post by Fiyameta » 22 Oct 2023, 04:56

We Eritreans are not responsible for the behavior of a friend-turned-enemy. It's only natural for peace-loving people to give others the benefit of doubt assuming they are acting with good intentions. But it should be noted that we never ever put our guards down, even for a second, for our past life experiences had taught us that the price of true independence is eternal vigilance. We have eyes in the back of our heads! The moment we detect a slight hint of transgression we put our guards up higher, and our refusal to respond to each empty rhetoric is a powerful response in itself.

"แ‰ตแˆ แ‹แ‰ แˆแŠ“แก แ‰ตแˆ แˆตแˆˆ แ‹แˆ˜แˆจแŒฝแŠ“ แŠขแŠ“!" -- แˆ…แ‹แ‰ฃแ‹Š แŒแŠ•แ‰ฃแˆญ

แˆณแˆ‹ แ‹แŒธแŠ“แ‹•แŠ“ แ‹แ‰ฐแŒธแˆ˜แˆแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แ‹“แ‰•แˆŠ แ‹แŒˆแ‰ฅแˆญแŠ“ แ‹แˆƒแ‹ณแŠฅแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แ‹แŒ แˆ˜แ‰ตแŠ“ แŠฃแˆญแˆ’แ‰•แŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แŠ•แ‹“แˆ˜แ‰ณ แŠฅแŠ•แ‰ แˆญ แŠ•แˆŽแˆš แ‹˜แ‹ญแ‰ แˆแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แ‰ฐแˆ“แ‰›แ‰ŠแแŠ“ แˆ“แ‹ฐ แ‹แŠพแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แ‰ฅแˆ˜แ‰ตแŠจแˆ แˆ“แ‰‚ แ‹แ‰ฐแŒ แˆ˜แˆญแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แ‹แ‰ฐแŠปแ‰ฃแ‰ แˆญแŠ“ แАแŠ•แˆ•แ‹ตแˆ•แ‹ตแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แˆ›แ‹•แŒพแŠ“ แ‹˜แˆตแŒ แˆแŠ“ แŠจแ‹ญแˆถแˆŽแŠฝ แŒ“แŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แ‹แŒธแŠ“แ‹•แŠ“ แŠฃแ‰ฅ แˆ•แ‹ตแˆช แˆฐแˆ›แŠฅแ‰ณแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แ‹˜แАแŒธแˆญแŠ“ แˆ˜แŒปแŠข แˆซแŠขแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แŠฅแˆแ‰ข แ‹แ‰ แˆแŠ“ แŠ•แˆแŒฝแ‹แ‰ตแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แ‹˜แ‹ญแˆจแˆณแ‹•แŠ“ แŒ…แŒแŠ•แАแ‰ต แŠฃแ‰ฆแ‰ณแ‰ตแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แ‹แ‹“แ‰€แ‰ฅแŠ“ แŠญแ‰กแˆญ แ‰ฃแˆ…แˆแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แŠฃแАแŒบแˆญแŠ“ แ‹แˆแˆˆแŒฅแŠ“ แŒธแˆ‹แŠฅแ‰ตแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ แŠ•แˆƒแŒˆแˆญแŠ“ แˆ“แŠ•แ‰ฒ แ‹˜แ‹ญแ‰ แ‰แ‰•แŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แ‹แ‰ฐแ‹ˆแ‹ฐแ‰ฅแŠ“ แ‹แАแ‰“แˆ•แŠ“ แ‹แ‹“แŒ แ‰•แŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แŠฃแ‰ฅแ‹˜แ‹จแ‹ตแˆŠ แ‰ตแˆ แ‹แˆ˜แˆจแŒฝแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แˆแˆต แ‹˜แ‹แАแˆแˆฐ แ‹˜แ‹ญแАแˆแˆตแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แŠฅแ‰ฒ แ‰แŠ‘แ‹• แˆซแŠขแŠ“ แŠฃแ‰ฅแˆแ‰ฅแŠ“ แ‹˜แŠ•แŒˆแˆตแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แˆ›แˆ•แ‰ แˆซแ‹Š แแ‰ตแˆ’ แ‹แŠพแА แˆ˜แ‰ตแŠจแˆแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แАแ‰ฅแˆฐ แˆแˆญแŠฎแˆณ แ‹แ‰ แˆแŠ“ แŠญแŠ•แŠญแŠฅแˆ แАแ‰ฅแˆตแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แˆ•แ‹ตแŒˆแ‰ต แ‹˜แแ‰•แ‹ต แ‰ฃแˆ…แˆแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แАแ‰ถแˆ แˆ“แ‹ซแˆ‹แ‰ต แ‹แˆ˜แˆตแˆŽแˆ แ‹แˆžแˆ–แŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แАแ‰ถแˆ แˆตแ‰•แ‰ณแŠ“ แแˆญแˆ‚ แ‹แˆ˜แˆตแˆŽแˆ แ‹แˆฐแ‹“แˆญแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แ‰ถแˆ แŠฃแ‰ฅ แŒ‰แ‹ณแ‹ฎแˆ แŠญแŠฅแ‰ตแ‹‰แŠ“ แ‹แ‰ฐแ‹ƒแ‰ฑแŠนแŠ“ แ‹˜แˆแˆ˜แˆตแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แАแ‰ถแˆ แˆฐแˆ‹แˆ›แ‹แ‹ซแŠ• แˆ˜แˆฒแˆŽแˆ แŠฅแˆพแŠฝ แ‹แ‹˜แˆญแŠกแˆแŠ“ แ‹˜แˆแŠจแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แАแ‰ถแˆ แ‰ฅแ‰ตแ‹ƒแ‰ฆ แŠญแˆ›แˆฉแŠนแŠ“ แ‹แ‹ฐแˆแ‹ฉ แ‹แŒธแ‹แ‹•แŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แАแ‰ถแˆ แ‹•แˆฑแ‰ฃแ‰ต แŠจแ‹ฐแˆแ‰ฒ แ‹˜แ‰“แˆ‹แ‹•แŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แŠฃแ‰ฅแАแ‰ต แŠ“แ‹ญ แŒญแ‰‘แŠ“แ‰ต แŠฎแŠ“ แ‹แ‹ˆแŒปแŠฅแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แŒแ‹œ แŠฃแ‰ฅ แˆจแ‰ฅแˆ“แŠ“ แ‹แ‰แ‹จแˆญแŠ“แก
แˆณแˆ‹ แˆฐแˆ‹แˆ แŠฃแ‰ฅ แ‹žแ‰ฃแŠ“ แ‹˜แŠ•แŒˆแˆตแŠ“แก
แˆ•แŒ‚ แŠ•แ‰ แŒˆแˆต แ‰ แ‰ฅแ‹˜แˆŽ แ‹“แ‰•แˆแŠ“แก
แŠจแАแ‰ แˆซแ‰ฅแˆญ แ‰ฐแŠพแˆŠแ‰ แ‹แŒธแŠ•แˆ” แˆ˜แ‹ฐแ‰ฅแŠ“แก
แ‰ฅแŠ“แˆ…แˆช แŠญแ‰•แŒฝแˆ แ‹ˆแแˆญแŠ“แก
แˆƒแ‹จ แŠฉแˆแŠ“ แŠ•แ‰ แˆ แˆปแˆ›แˆปแˆ› แŠ•แˆ…แАแŒป แˆƒแŒˆแˆญแŠ“แข

แ‹˜แˆแŠฃแˆˆแˆ›แ‹Š แ‹แŠฝแˆช แŠ•แˆฐแˆ›แŠฅแ‰ณแ‰ตแŠ“แก
แ‹“แ‹ˆแ‰ต แŠ•แˆ“แ‹แˆฝ แˆ…แ‹แ‰ฅแŠ“แก
แŒˆแ‰ฅแˆจแŠ•แŒ‰แˆต แˆ˜แˆตแˆ˜แˆญ

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Re: How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by quindibu » 22 Oct 2023, 21:48

Misraq wrote: โ†‘
21 Oct 2023, 22:59

Thank you sir. Unfortunately we are seeing Eritreans attacking us for the behavior of Oromuma and it's cadres. Most Eritreans are doing exactly what Abiy wants them to do

I don't see on what Eritrea benefits by attacking Amharas who are at odd both with TPLF and PP. Very counter productive move
:roll: :roll: :roll:

My message wasn't meant for an Agame......Your track record on this forum is obvious for everybody to see. My favorite one is when you posed as 'Eritrean oppostion' to insult Eritreans/Ethiopians during woyane's heyday. :roll: So whom are you trying to fool here? Retard!

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Re: How were we wrong, having trusted this guy? MUST LiSTEN!

Post by Fiyameta » 22 Oct 2023, 22:09

quindibu wrote: โ†‘
22 Oct 2023, 21:48
Misraq wrote: โ†‘
21 Oct 2023, 22:59

Thank you sir. Unfortunately we are seeing Eritreans attacking us for the behavior of Oromuma and it's cadres. Most Eritreans are doing exactly what Abiy wants them to do

I don't see on what Eritrea benefits by attacking Amharas who are at odd both with TPLF and PP. Very counter productive move
:roll: :roll: :roll:

My message wasn't meant for an Agame......Your track record on this forum is obvious for everybody to see. My favorite one is when you posed as 'Eritrean oppostion' to insult Eritreans/Ethiopians during woyane's heyday. :roll: So whom are you trying to fool here? Retard!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

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