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Re: All her neighbors have got a sea-coast but not Ethiopia, something must be wrong here!

Post by Digital Weyane » 20 Oct 2023, 14:32

ፈጣሪ በሰጠን ነገሮች አመስጋኝ ከመሆን ይልቅ ፈጣሪን ለምን ላንድሎኽድ አድርገህ ፈጠርከን ብሎ መጠየቅ ነውርም ሃጢአትም ነው። :roll: :roll:

“ከዐፈር ሸክላዎች መካከል፣ ከሠሪው ጋር ክርክር ለሚገጥም ወዮለት፤ ጭቃ፣ ሸክላ ሠሪውን፣ ‘ምን እየሠራህ ነው?’ ይለዋልን? (ትንቢተ ኢሳይያስ ምዕራፍ 45:9)

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Re: All her neighbors have got a sea-coast but not Ethiopia, something must be wrong here!

Post by euroland » 20 Oct 2023, 15:07

All Eritrea’s neighbors have hydropower dams…thus, Eritrea needs to claim Nile. Something needs to change DDT, don’t you think?

My neighbor drives Porsha and Maserati but i am driving Corolla, I should go get at least one of his cars, it is not fair for him to drive a couple of high end cars while I drive cheap car…..something got to change.
DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 12:34

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Re: All her neighbors have got a sea-coast but not Ethiopia, something must be wrong here!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 20 Oct 2023, 16:26

euroland wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 15:07
All Eritrea’s neighbors have hydropower dams…thus, Eritrea needs to claim Nile. Something needs to change DDT, don’t you think?

My neighbor drives Porsha and Maserati but i am driving Corolla, I should go get at least one of his cars, it is not fair for him to drive a couple of high end cars while I drive cheap car…..something got to change.
DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 12:34
That Nile doesn't flow through Eritrea is a natural creation, but not the case of cutting Ethiopia from the Red-Sea. Ethiopia has a natural bond to that body of water. Moreover Eritrea is more than welcome to use the gifts of Nile, not my word but that of the leader of the country.

The parallel is far-fetched there.

A short episode of something like 60 years can't overshadow the long history of over thousands of years, unless something might have not been twisted, be design or mere coincidence.

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Re: All her neighbors have got a sea-coast but not Ethiopia, something must be wrong here!

Post by Zmeselo » 20 Oct 2023, 16:37

Ok tell us when in history has "Ethiopia" (Abissinia), which was constituted by Menelik, ever been a maritime nation; except for the 30 years it had occupied Eritrea?

What "natural bond" are you talking about? Give documentary evidence for this fairy-tale!

Nonetheless, all of that is water under the bridge. Your country is surrounded by sovereign States and all you've to do, is negotiate for access to the sea.

The other alternative is bloodshed and we're, as always, ready & prepared for that eventuality.

Period!


DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 16:26
euroland wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 15:07
All Eritrea’s neighbors have hydropower dams…thus, Eritrea needs to claim Nile. Something needs to change DDT, don’t you think?

My neighbor drives Porsha and Maserati but i am driving Corolla, I should go get at least one of his cars, it is not fair for him to drive a couple of high end cars while I drive cheap car…..something got to change.
DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 12:34
That Nile doesn't flow through Eritrea is a natural creation, but not the case of cutting Ethiopia from the Red-Sea. Ethiopia has a natural bond to that body of water. Moreover Eritrea is more than welcome to use the gifts of Nile, not my word but that of the leader of the country.

The parallel is far-fetched there.

A short episode of something like 60 years can't overshadow the long history of over thousands of years, unless something might have not been twisted, be design or mere coincidence.

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Re: All her neighbors have got a sea-coast but not Ethiopia, something must be wrong here!

Post by DefendTheTruth » 20 Oct 2023, 17:08

Zmeselo wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 16:37

The other alternative is bloodshed and we're, as always, ready & prepared for that eventuality.

Period!
DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 16:26
euroland wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 15:07
All Eritrea’s neighbors have hydropower dams…thus, Eritrea needs to claim Nile. Something needs to change DDT, don’t you think?

My neighbor drives Porsha and Maserati but i am driving Corolla, I should go get at least one of his cars, it is not fair for him to drive a couple of high end cars while I drive cheap car…..something got to change.
DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 12:34
That Nile doesn't flow through Eritrea is a natural creation, but not the case of cutting Ethiopia from the Red-Sea. Ethiopia has a natural bond to that body of water. Moreover Eritrea is more than welcome to use the gifts of Nile, not my word but that of the leader of the country.

The parallel is far-fetched there.

A short episode of something like 60 years can't overshadow the long history of over thousands of years, unless something might have not been twisted, be design or mere coincidence.
Zmeselo, my brother (I mean it in earnest here),

in contrast to your tantrum I am not prepared to wage a war with anybody. Those children who would going to die on both sides are my people, in my understanding. God forbid that!

War should never be the first choice of resolving disagreements, not between Eritrea and Ethiopia or any other peoples of this planet in my view.

Having said that I will share with you my deepest internal feeling that this time around will never be any new round of "Algiers" in my feeling in the "eventuality" you are talking about, simply because this is about a life and death.

Ethiopians have never succumbed to any sort of imposition from outside in their whole long history and there is no reason to assume anything different this time around.

Like the PM of Ethiopia said somewhere else it is much better to negotiate for 10 years instead of waging war even for few months.

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Re: All her neighbors have got a sea-coast but not Ethiopia, something must be wrong here!

Post by Hawzen » 20 Oct 2023, 18:48

DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 17:08
Zmeselo wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 16:37

The other alternative is bloodshed and we're, as always, ready & prepared for that eventuality.

Period!
DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 16:26
euroland wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 15:07
All Eritrea’s neighbors have hydropower dams…thus, Eritrea needs to claim Nile. Something needs to change DDT, don’t you think?

My neighbor drives Porsha and Maserati but i am driving Corolla, I should go get at least one of his cars, it is not fair for him to drive a couple of high end cars while I drive cheap car…..something got to change.
DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 12:34
That Nile doesn't flow through Eritrea is a natural creation, but not the case of cutting Ethiopia from the Red-Sea. Ethiopia has a natural bond to that body of water. Moreover Eritrea is more than welcome to use the gifts of Nile, not my word but that of the leader of the country.

The parallel is far-fetched there.

A short episode of something like 60 years can't overshadow the long history of over thousands of years, unless something might have not been twisted, be design or mere coincidence.
Zmeselo, my brother (I mean it in earnest here),

in contrast to your tantrum I am not prepared to wage a war with anybody. Those children who would going to die on both sides are my people, in my understanding. God forbid that!

War should never be the first choice of resolving disagreements, not between Eritrea and Ethiopia or any other peoples of this planet in my view.

Having said that I will share with you my deepest internal feeling that this time around will never be any new round of "Algiers" in my feeling in the "eventuality" you are talking about, simply because this is about a life and death.

Ethiopians have never succumbed to any sort of imposition from outside in their whole long history and there is no reason to assume anything different this time around.

Like the PM of Ethiopia said somewhere else it is much better to negotiate for 10 years instead of waging war even for few months.
I never thought Orommuma elites have the same IQ level as the agame elites :lol: :mrgreen: :oops:

Did you say Red Sea is a matter of life and death for Ethiopia?! Neither you died in the last 32 years without our Red Sea nor your prospered when Eritrean Red Sea was under Ethiopian colony for 30 years. I think you need to stop that non-sense. Another thing is also that Egypt and Sudan must also have the same right of acess Abbay Dam if we are going to use your logic simply because it is a matter of life and death for them. Ha?

Anyway.. if you have the audacity to disregard the integrity of sovereign nations, then send your Oromo brothers and sisters to war that your Orommuma prime minister is trying to instigate... My second advice also allow the people Amhara and other ethics to move in and out of your " Finfine" in case they might change their minds to die for your Orommuma agenda. Make also the rest of non-Orommuma Ethiopians to feel they are first class citizens :oops:

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF terrorist group

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Re: All her neighbors have got a sea-coast but not Ethiopia, something must be wrong here!

Post by euroland » 20 Oct 2023, 21:43

DDT

We never claim something that’s not hours (such as Nile) nore do we give what’s legally ours. This is the main principle that we fought for Badme, a land that probably is. 001% to Eritrea’s total size; no matter how big, how small how strategic or not, we are known to defend it fearlessly.

Your “thousands of years” history doesn’t give you a right to claim someone else’s territory. Your history with the Red Sea on Eritrean side the same as with Djibouti, Yemen, Somalia or even Tanzania. Remember, your historian were telling us the Abbissinia kingdom used to rule all those lands. Every African country’s current boundaries isn’t as old as 60 years so your argument about the “short episode of 60 years” doesn’t hold water. Based on your argument, then you are going to void the exioof Djibouti, Sudan, Kenya and Somalia.

Nonetheless, it is surprising to us Eritrean to see the Orommuma, who have been complaining about their own land being stolen by “colonizers”, the Amaras, are now telling the world, they want someone’s territory because “they have history of thousand years”.
DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 16:26
euroland wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 15:07
All Eritrea’s neighbors have hydropower dams…thus, Eritrea needs to claim Nile. Something needs to change DDT, don’t you think?

My neighbor drives Porsha and Maserati but i am driving Corolla, I should go get at least one of his cars, it is not fair for him to drive a couple of high end cars while I drive cheap car…..something got to change.
DefendTheTruth wrote:
20 Oct 2023, 12:34
That Nile doesn't flow through Eritrea is a natural creation, but not the case of cutting Ethiopia from the Red-Sea. Ethiopia has a natural bond to that body of water. Moreover Eritrea is more than welcome to use the gifts of Nile, not my word but that of the leader of the country.

The parallel is far-fetched there.

A short episode of something like 60 years can't overshadow the long history of over thousands of years, unless something might have not been twisted, be design or mere coincidence.

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