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Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 07 Oct 2023, 16:58

More than 340 Israelis have died after the Palestinian resistance movement Hamas has attacked the jewish state, and there are also dozens of soldiers and officers who are held in Hamas Captivity. What was the purpose of this attack is every body°s guess, some say that, the attack was designed by Iran to torpedo the rapprochement between Israel and Saudi Arabia, some are speculating that the current PM of Israel Netanyahu might have allowed the resistance to execute their operation in southern Israeli cities to shift the attention and consolidate his power structure after he was attacked by the Israeli left and George Soros financed so called organizations.

What is certain though, the Palestinians are going to pay a dear price of the current action, Though the way they executed their military operation is admirable and they should be commended for that, what is the end plan? Israel is going to destroy Gaza and the so called international community are not going to say any thing for those people who are screaming free Palestine slogans.

The biggest loser of today°s operation is Ukraine, the European agames are going to lose prime tv coverage and their fight against their Russian brothers is going to be a periphery of events while the Israeli Palestinian conflict is going to be central. No more funds for Ukraine means total victory for the Russian federation.

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Re: Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by Dark Energy » 07 Oct 2023, 17:34

Old man Arawit.

It is conniving old Putin, sending the message to the West. He feels he is suffocated by NATO knocking on his door through Ukraine. He may even threaten to arm the Palestinians with thermo nuclear weapons. Israel possesses over 300 warheads, and Russia in very much next door, and he knows the risk as well. Iran wouldn’t dare to take adventure against the Israelis.😏😄😄

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Re: Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by Misraq » 07 Oct 2023, 18:14

Deqi-Arawit wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 16:58
The biggest loser of today°s operation is Ukraine, the European agames are going to lose prime tv coverage and their fight against their Russian brothers is going to be a periphery of events while the Israeli Palestinian conflict is going to be central. No more funds for Ukraine means total victory for the Russian federation.


Good point but I think Ukraine has no chance. It has already used its well trained forces and they are all dead. What they have now are ill trained new soldiers who are easy meal for the Russian Army. Lots of heart renching videos on X about this already.

As to the Gaza case, i feel it is more economic warfare between east and west and Iran in the middle putting more fire.



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Re: Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by eritrea » 07 Oct 2023, 18:30

Yeah the main reason being to stop the North–South Corridor, a planned railway route that will connect Russia to the Indian Ocean via Iran.

That is the reason why this conflict will not only end in Palestina but will spread all over the place if the culprit for the start of bloody conflict are not the Palestinians themselves.

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Re: Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 07 Oct 2023, 20:23

Dark Energy wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 17:34
Old man Arawit.

It is conniving old Putin, sending the message to the West. He feels he is suffocated by NATO knocking on his door through Ukraine. He may even threaten to arm the Palestinians with thermo nuclear weapons. Israel possesses over 300 warheads, and Russia in very much next door, and he knows the risk as well. Iran wouldn’t dare to take adventure against the Israelis.😏😄😄
Mayor of Seraye!
You are a snowflake who is not equipped with enough intelligence to analyze geopolitics but who blame everything on Putin to echo the Americans. Let his eminence school you.
First of all, despite Ukraine has begged the jewish state for Military support, Israel was adamant that they are not going to through to assist Ukraine with weaponry mainly because it doesn't want to get in collusion course with the Russia. The Russian federation is the custodian of Syrian skies, It was thanks to tacit approval from the Russians that Israeli Air Force is allowed to bomb even the capital Damascus to destroy Iranian assets in syria. Second, Israel doesn't want its lates cutting edge weapons to end up in Russian hand and then passed to Iran.

Is that war in the Middle East Good for Russia, Sure it is, because it takes away the attention of the wester mainstream media from Ukraine and redirect to the Middle East.

Any way fasten your seat belt, with the Middle East in flames, the price of oil is going to skyrocket or the Arabs might refuse to sell the black Gold to the west and cause massive recession which we have never seen before in history.

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Re: Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 07 Oct 2023, 20:31

Misraq wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 18:14
Deqi-Arawit wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 16:58
The biggest loser of today°s operation is Ukraine, the European agames are going to lose prime tv coverage and their fight against their Russian brothers is going to be a periphery of events while the Israeli Palestinian conflict is going to be central. No more funds for Ukraine means total victory for the Russian federation.


Good point but I think Ukraine has no chance. It has already used its well trained forces and they are all dead. What they have now are ill trained new soldiers who are easy meal for the Russian Army. Lots of heart renching videos on X about this already.

As to the Gaza case, i feel it is more economic warfare between east and west and Iran in the middle putting more fire.


The consequences of having a comedian actor as a leader.

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Re: Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by Dark Energy » 07 Oct 2023, 22:08

Agazian man,
As the saying goes, there are many ways to skin a cat. Good old Putin has been complaining by the suffocation of the NATO expansion to former outcast of the former USSR members, specially, Poland and Ukraine to name a few. Name calling aside, since you are an Agazyan who idolizes that street thief, lizard looking Tesfa nay Yedug, I rest my case right there. :lol: :lol: :lol: Please stop it. Iran is not a real threat to Israel. Russia is. However, the US has Israelis back. But, Putin has some 5800 thermo nuclear warheads. The US has 5200. The Israelis have some 300. Putin feels choked by the West in his own neighborhood . The Soviet Union former pride, Ukraine has been snatched from the jaws of the Soviet Union. The US has been subsidizing the likes of Germany for the loss of the Soviet oil market. That is the very reason inflation has been allowed to go out of control everywhere.
Then again, there are also problems specific to the State of Israel and the Gaza administration in the West Bank as stated below.

Palestinian politics is defined, in large part, by how its leadership responds to Israel’s continued occupation — both its physical presence in the West Bank and its economically devastating blockade of the Gaza Strip. Hamas’s strategy to outcompete its rivals, including the Fatah faction currently in charge of the West Bank, is to channel Palestinian rage at their suffering: to be the authentic voice of resistance to Israel and the occupation. The angrier Palestinians are at Israel, the greater Hamas’s political incentives for violence.

And the past few months have seen plenty of outrages, ones even more significant than events in Jerusalem. Israel’s current hard-right government, dominated by factions that oppose a peace agreement with the Palestinians, has been conducting a de facto annexation of the West Bank. It has turned a blind eye to settler violence against West Bank civilians, including a February rampage in the town of Huwara.

And the past few months have seen plenty of outrages, ones even more significant than events in Jerusalem. Israel’s current hard-right government, dominated by factions that oppose a peace agreement with the Palestinians, has been conducting a de facto annexation of the West Bank. It has turned a blind eye to settler violence against West Bank civilians, including a February rampage in the town of Huwara.

Israel’s focus on the West Bank may also have created an operational opportunity for Hamas. According to Uzi Ben Yitzhak, a retired Israeli general, the Israeli government has deployed most of the regular IDF forces to the West Bank to manage the situation there — leaving only a skeleton force at the Gaza border. The effort to secure permanent Israeli control over the West Bank, in this assessment, created conditions where a Hamas surprise
According to Hamas itself, the attack was provoked by recent events surrounding the Temple Mount, a site in Jerusalem holy to Jews and Muslims alike. In the past week, Israeli settlers have been entering the al-Aqsa Mosque atop the mount and praying, which Hamas termed “desecration” in a statement on their offensive (which they’ve named Operation A

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Re: Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 08 Oct 2023, 14:00

Dark Energy wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 22:08
Agazian man,
As the saying goes, there are many ways to skin a cat. Good old Putin has been complaining by the suffocation of the NATO expansion to former outcast of the former USSR members, specially, Poland and Ukraine to name a few. Name calling aside, since you are an Agazyan who idolizes that street thief, lizard looking Tesfa nay Yedug, I rest my case right there. :lol: :lol: :lol: Please stop it. Iran is not a real threat to Israel. Russia is. However, the US has Israelis back. But, Putin has some 5800 thermo nuclear warheads. The US has 5200. The Israelis have some 300. Putin feels choked by the West in his own neighborhood . The Soviet Union former pride, Ukraine has been snatched from the jaws of the Soviet Union. The US has been subsidizing the likes of Germany for the loss of the Soviet oil market. That is the very reason inflation has been allowed to go out of control everywhere.
Then again, there are also problems specific to the State of Israel and the Gaza administration in the West Bank as stated below.

Palestinian politics is defined, in large part, by how its leadership responds to Israel’s continued occupation — both its physical presence in the West Bank and its economically devastating blockade of the Gaza Strip. Hamas’s strategy to outcompete its rivals, including the Fatah faction currently in charge of the West Bank, is to channel Palestinian rage at their suffering: to be the authentic voice of resistance to Israel and the occupation. The angrier Palestinians are at Israel, the greater Hamas’s political incentives for violence.

And the past few months have seen plenty of outrages, ones even more significant than events in Jerusalem. Israel’s current hard-right government, dominated by factions that oppose a peace agreement with the Palestinians, has been conducting a de facto annexation of the West Bank. It has turned a blind eye to settler violence against West Bank civilians, including a February rampage in the town of Huwara.

And the past few months have seen plenty of outrages, ones even more significant than events in Jerusalem. Israel’s current hard-right government, dominated by factions that oppose a peace agreement with the Palestinians, has been conducting a de facto annexation of the West Bank. It has turned a blind eye to settler violence against West Bank civilians, including a February rampage in the town of Huwara.

Israel’s focus on the West Bank may also have created an operational opportunity for Hamas. According to Uzi Ben Yitzhak, a retired Israeli general, the Israeli government has deployed most of the regular IDF forces to the West Bank to manage the situation there — leaving only a skeleton force at the Gaza border. The effort to secure permanent Israeli control over the West Bank, in this assessment, created conditions where a Hamas surprise
According to Hamas itself, the attack was provoked by recent events surrounding the Temple Mount, a site in Jerusalem holy to Jews and Muslims alike. In the past week, Israeli settlers have been entering the al-Aqsa Mosque atop the mount and praying, which Hamas termed “desecration” in a statement on their offensive (which they’ve named Operation A
Mayor of Seraye
You are an infant to dissect and understand regional or geopolitical discussions. But His eminence is alway optimist and I am not going to lose faith on you easily. Regardless how close the relationship between America and Israel is, Israel is needed in the Middle East for equalization purpose and I wouldn't even be surprised if Putin himself is a zionist because all Russian oligarchs are of jewish descend.

In regard to iran, the topic will be different. If you ask any gulf Arab citizen whom to chose between the jewish state and iran, they would pick Israel because they don't consider the Persians as trustworthy people, moreover, the Iranians have big aspiration to shape the entire Middle East and the islmiac world in their mirror. They claim, the Arabs controlled the muslim word during mohammed, the Turks controlled the islmiac world under the Ottoman Empire, and the Kurdish controlled the muslim world under Salah Al din Ayoub and his uncle leadership,, now, they believe it is their turn. That is also why they scream Palestine Palestine, death to Israel despite Iran and Israel had great relationship before the arrival of the mullah in political scene of Iran.

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Re: Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by Dark Energy » 08 Oct 2023, 14:47

Aregit Agaziian,

Insults aside, who cares what the Turkish, the Persians or the Arabs did in the past. Who cares wether Putin is Zionist or not, it is the West vs. East ideology or better yet Western democracy vs. Eastern dictatorship…that is relevanthere. We all know the influence of Jewish big businesses in the West. To the West, the Jewish State is untouchable. By the way, Ukraine is a Jewish dominated state. During the Syrian crisis, the aerial bombings of the ISIS strong hold by the Russians, Putin held an interview in which he complained the terrible strangulation he faces by NATO forces. He was very angry of what happened to Poland and other former Soviet Union countries who joined NATO prior to that period. He could be trying to get even. He is sly and dangerous. The West, especially the Democratic Party in the US is aware of him. Got it…. Presto. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 08 Oct 2023, 17:02

Dark Energy wrote:
08 Oct 2023, 14:47
Aregit Agaziian,

Insults aside, who cares what the Turkish, the Persians or the Arabs did in the past. Who cares wether Putin is Zionist or not, it is the West vs. East ideology or better yet Western democracy vs. Eastern dictatorship…that is relevanthere. We all know the influence of Jewish big businesses in the West. To the West, the Jewish State is untouchable. By the way, Ukraine is a Jewish dominated state. During the Syrian crisis, the aerial bombings of the ISIS strong hold by the Russians, Putin held an interview in which he complained the terrible strangulation he faces by NATO forces. He was very angry of what happened to Poland and other former Soviet Union countries who joined NATO prior to that period. He could be trying to get even. He is sly and dangerous. The West, especially the Democratic Party in the US is aware of him. Got it…. Presto. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Mayor of seraye
going Back and forth with a low IQ like you is time consuming endeavor but if you have some brain cells, I really advise you to read a book by former Jimmy Carter national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski with the title grand chessboard. The man was of polish descend and like most poles he was russiaphobic but this is what he wrote. In order to strip russia to have any aspiration to become an Eurasian power, you need to pull Ukraine from its Orbit. that is also why ,you need to see the Ukraine conflict which we are witnessing from this angel.

Btw....Stop listening to the old senile Biden or White House secretary the black [deleted] chick who attribute every thing which went wrong to Putin, "Putin is responsible for the high gas price inAmerica" "Putin is responsible for lesbians not to have children"

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Re: Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by Misraq » 08 Oct 2023, 23:41

Deqi-Arawit wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 20:23
Dark Energy wrote:
07 Oct 2023, 17:34
Old man Arawit.

It is conniving old Putin, sending the message to the West. He feels he is suffocated by NATO knocking on his door through Ukraine. He may even threaten to arm the Palestinians with thermo nuclear weapons. Israel possesses over 300 warheads, and Russia in very much next door, and he knows the risk as well. Iran wouldn’t dare to take adventure against the Israelis.😏😄😄
Mayor of Seraye!
You are a snowflake who is not equipped with enough intelligence to analyze geopolitics but who blame everything on Putin to echo the Americans. Let his eminence school you.
First of all, despite Ukraine has begged the jewish state for Military support, Israel was adamant that they are not going to through to assist Ukraine with weaponry mainly because it doesn't want to get in collusion course with the Russia. The Russian federation is the custodian of Syrian skies, It was thanks to tacit approval from the Russians that Israeli Air Force is allowed to bomb even the capital Damascus to destroy Iranian assets in syria. Second, Israel doesn't want its lates cutting edge weapons to end up in Russian hand and then passed to Iran.

Is that war in the Middle East Good for Russia, Sure it is, because it takes away the attention of the wester mainstream media from Ukraine and redirect to the Middle East.

Any way fasten your seat belt, with the Middle East in flames, the price of oil is going to skyrocket or the Arabs might refuse to sell the black Gold to the west and cause massive recession which we have never seen before in history.
i 2nd that. Looks aside, the round faced short-legged brother is not gifted in the intelligence department as well.

Deqi, the "Massive Inflation" you mentioned is very plausible. The stock market could dive deep as a result of all this coming mess and create uproar in the western world as the talks of war escalates.

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Re: Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by Zack » 10 Oct 2023, 04:14

Two things Bibi had two issues so I wouldn’t be surprised if he let it happen and was colluding with hamas . But. This got out of hand. This was the most successful attack it was .

How ever what can Israelis do to Palestinians or gazians. Bomb then harder ba ground invasion is logistical night mare for Israel but what if they do that What can happen they will lose the war and hamas will kill all the hostages in order for Israel not to get the hostages free .

As for Iran. The Iranians are sophisticated in allot of things much more advanced then their Arab neighbours. And they surely will be the leaders some how of the ummah despite being. A shia minority in terms of theology .

Israël has it difficult that is for sure

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Re: Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by Dark Energy » 10 Oct 2023, 12:32

iOS IQ Agazian man,

You love to aggrandize your Agazian behind a lot. :lol: You are nothing but a copy and paste creature. BTW, Brezenski was in power over forty years ago. A lot have changed since then. To isolate an event and relate it to the past out of context, simply is bone headed. Today, whether you like it or not, it is Putin against the West. He feels Russia has been victimized by the West. He is cornered by the West. Stop lecturing about the possible stock market crisis. That is practically my domain. America is financing Europe at the expense of its very own economy. Putin has no economy. It is not even a contest if there was no nuclear piles to contend with. You are bombastic, but you worship the lizard lookin petty thief Tesfastion. Please look in the mirror. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Gaza is about to get [deleted]

Post by Abe Abraham » 10 Oct 2023, 14:45

Zack wrote:
10 Oct 2023, 04:14

Two things Bibi had two issues so I wouldn’t be surprised if he let it happen and was colluding with hamas . But. This got out of hand. This was the most successful attack it was .

How ever what can Israelis do to Palestinians or gazians. Bomb then harder ba ground invasion is logistical night mare for Israel but what if they do that What can happen they will lose the war and hamas will kill all the hostages in order for Israel not to get the hostages free .

As for Iran. The Iranians are sophisticated in allot of things much more advanced then their Arab neighbours. And they surely will be the leaders some how of the ummah despite being. A shia minority in terms of theology .

Israël has it difficult that is for sure

Dr Zackovich
That is insulting to both Bibi and Hamas.

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