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What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria !

Post by Axumezana » 04 Sep 2023, 00:13

In Nigeria Fulani population is 14m and Housa population is about 69m . Both have created the Northern political alliance and they have further allied with 45m Yorubas in Southern West of Nigeria. This tripartite political alliance , that integrates 128m people has stabilized the whole 224m Nigerians over the last 20 years.


To stabilize Ethiopia the following are the possible political alliances which could create critical mass to stabilize Ethiopia: Each allied state is assumed to have veto power and with rotating top leadership ( maximum every two terms( 8 years ) & proportional representation in the government based on their perspective population size.



(1) Tigray - Amhara - Oromia - Somalia alliance ( most stable)

(2) Tigray - Oromia - Somalia alliance

(3) Tigray - Amhara- Sidama/ Southern Ethiopia alliance -

(4) Oromia-Somalia -Afar Alliance to counter alliance # 3

(5) Amhara- Afar- Sidama/ Southern Ethiopia alliance to counter alliance # 2
(6) Tigray- Oromia - Somalia- Sidama/Southern Ethiopia -Afar Alliance ( marginalizes Amhara)
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.
( X)


What should Amhara and Tigray offer to each other to establish alliance

- Both have to agree the future of Ethiopia is democratic federalism or Confederacy Union
- Immediate return of displaced people. The issue of border disputes have to be resolved through referendum as per the constitution
- Privatization of land and equal right for Ethiopians in every part of Ethiopia
- No dictatorship both in each state and the whole Ethiopia.
- Apology to the people ( both Amhara and Tigray)
- Joint compensation to the people affected by the war ( both for Tigrayans and Amharas)
- Justice to the crime committed in both Amhara and Tigray
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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by Noble Amhara » 04 Sep 2023, 00:28

First step is

Neutrality

Tigray should avoid Eritrean affairs and become Allie's with Eritrea by handing Badme to Eritrea
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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by Tog Wajale E.R. » 04 Sep 2023, 00:29

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Gummamma MushMush:- ዕስትኽ፥ ዓጋመ፥ ወዲ ዛ፥ ፋኛቱራ !!!



MushMushat Guahafat Bast*ard Prosti*tutes Agga*mes:--- Why Don't You Entertain That To Your Dedebit Woorgach Tigrayian Who*re Mother. Get Lost Now Gimmattamm Shettattam Agga*mes.

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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by Axumezana » 04 Sep 2023, 00:33

Eritrea is the foot solider of Egypt and the enemy of Ethiopia. Amhara-Tigray- Oromia and all Ethiopians have to work together to topple Isaias in alliance with the Western Countries and the Eritrean opposition.
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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by Noble Amhara » 04 Sep 2023, 00:36

Amhara - Tigrai Conflict resolution

( a )

Policy of Sewenet - "do unto others as you want done to you"

( b )

Policy of Diversity - embrace ethnic diversity allow both ethnics to have shared administration both regions will have representatives in disputed territories no ethnic gets 100% control over disputed localities (swallow the sinful pride) an example is Korem Ketema home to Amhara, Agaw, and Tigray all three ethnic should form Korem City Administration in that case no Amhara activist or Tigray activist can complain

( c )

Policy of military - TDF is doing a good job avoiding conflict with FANO we are now almost reaching 1 year anniversary of Tigray Forces avoiding conflict with Amhara Forces .
Axumezana wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 00:33
Now that both TDF and FANO have been at war with Abiy Ahmed both Amhara and Tigray Armies must sign agreement to avoid military hostilities in agreement to a new Pretoria Agreement that respects both ethnics and allows both to have mutual agreement based on the ground voices and expressions


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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by Noble Amhara » 04 Sep 2023, 01:21

Axumezana wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 01:20
TDF is not at war with Abiy!
November of 2020 up to November of 2022 they were at war with Abiy Ahmed

Abiy Ahmed war with Fano began in April of 2023 and is ongoing

So both have been at war with Abiy Ahmed and this history is unforgettable

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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by Axumezana » 04 Sep 2023, 02:14

That is perhaps the darkest history of Ethiopia but we need to close it through forgiveness, reconcilation and justice!

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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by temari » 04 Sep 2023, 02:52

Axumezana wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 00:13

The issue of border disputes have to be determined through referendum as per the constitution
Even though I really don't think there will be any meaningful effort to establish an alliance as long as the TPLF criminals are around, I support the idea of a long-term win-win based alliance of people, especially the ATO (Amhara-Tigray-Oromo).

Having said that, sometimes I really wonder how the minds of TPLF intoxicated people work, including that of the incompetent PP leaders. How on earth do you guys think a referendum will bring a lasting peace after so much of politicization and sacrifice? The core problem of the current political setup is that it encourages a zero-sum game instead of a win-win compromise. In the current setup, a people will either loses everything or wins everything. This is the core problem and referendum only promotes it and will solve absolutely nothing.

Ethiopia needs a better political system in which a win-win long-term compromise is possible so all people can live and feel at home everywhere, but the TPLF intoxicated mind is stuck and is not able to think out of the box. It rather repeats the same zero-sum "constitution and referendum" game without thinking about the consequences and without seeing the fact that the same zero-sum game is the one that brought us to the mess we are in.

Before the toxic zero-sum TPLF system was introduced, Wolkait was home for the Wolkaits, Gonderes, Tigreans and even Eritreans. Now, to even think that giving Wolkait to Tigray (which was never par of it) through a referendum will bring a lasting peace is insanity to me. This kind of zero-sum solution will solve absolutly nothing!

One thing I never understood and may will never understand, especially about Tigreans is, what they got from the current zero-sum system? How on earth a minority vehemently promotes and still refuses to come out of a zero-game political setup that brought so much misery to Tigray is beyond me. It is mind-boggling to me that most TPLF entoxinated people never use their brains.

The solution is to get out of the current zero-sum game and find a better win-win compromise based on equality and freedom of all peoples. The current system will never ever achieve that and we have already seen the fruits. How hard is that to see?

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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by Axumezana » 04 Sep 2023, 03:07

The base line for any alliance should be accepting the existing constitution with understanding to revise it down the line . If your overriding goal is " ርስት፥ ማስመለስ" ትግራይም፥ ከ( ወልቃይት፥ሁመራ+ ራያ፥): ተደምሮ፥ የሚበልጥ፥ በማእድን፥ የተሞላ፥መሬት፥ አፋር፥ለመመስረት፥ ተቆርጦ፥ ከትግራይ፥ ሄዷል። ይኸን፥ እሳቤ፥ ስታስገባ፥ "Zero -Sum " ያልከው፥ ትክክል፥እንዳልሆነ፥ትገነዘባለህ።

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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by temari » 04 Sep 2023, 03:22

Axumezana wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 03:07
The base line for any alliance should be accepting the existing constitution with understanding to revise it down the line . If your overriding goal is " ርስት፥ ማስመለስ" ትግራይም፥ ከ( ወልቃይት፥ሁመራ+ ራያ፥): ተደምሮ፥ የሚበልጥ፥ በማእድን፥ የተሞላ፥መሬት፥ አፋር፥ለመመስረት፥ ተቆርጦ፥ ከትግራይ፥ ሄዷል። ይኸን፥ እሳቤ፥ ስታስገባ፥ "Zero -Sum " ያልከው፥ ትክክል፥እንዳልሆነ፥ትገነዘባለህ።
You can cry all you want about the current constitution. As long as it can't solve a problem with a win-win compromise and bring a lasting peace, people will tear it down and no army can stop them. Constitution can oly exists as long as it serves people. Nothing is above people. People are what make constitution not the otherway around.

That is also the reason why I said as long as the TPLF intoxicated mind is around there will not be out of the box thinking and there will not be peace and alliance. It's stuck in a zero-sum game. This intoxicated mind brought us to this mess and will tear the country apart. No people will accept a zero-sum game in which it is the loser. No constitution can stop a people that feels unfairly treated. Repeating the word "constitution" like a broken tape recorder won't cut it. As long as TPLF and PP are around that are unable to produce inovative and fair solutions and are reduced to a broken tape recorder, there will be no lasting political solution and no win-win lasting peace!

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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by Axumezana » 04 Sep 2023, 03:29

You sound like an ascari cyber mafia!

You are trying to round the bush with out addressing the Tigray land given to Afar !

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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by temari » 04 Sep 2023, 03:47

Axumezana wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 03:29
You sound like an ascari cyber mafia!

You are trying to round the bush with out addressing the Tigray land given to Afar !
I'm talking about people. I said Wolkaits, Gonderes, Tigreans and Eritreans lived peacefully in Wolkait before your zero-sum game destroyed everything, resulting in ethnic cleansing and forceful assimilation etc. I also said there should be a win-win solution where all people feel safe and home everywhere. All my focus was about people. Read it again. The so called Afar land or the issue of Addis Ababa etc. can easily be addressed if we come out of the current zero-sum game and seek a win-win compromise.

Anyway, good luck with your zero-sum game. Let's see if the people of Tigray will come out as losers or winners in the current zero-sum game. You insist on playing it I guess.

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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by Axumezana » 04 Sep 2023, 03:53

If we talk about " ርስት፥ ማስመለስ" The land taken from Tigray to establish Afar is part of the equation. You cannot delay or ignore it ! If you are serious about respecting the right of the people return of the displaced people from Sudan and central Tigray to Western aTig5ay and Southern Tigray is mandatory and subsequent referendum as per the provisions in the constitution is the only solution to solve the problem.

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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by Axumezana » 04 Sep 2023, 09:35

Axumezana wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 03:53
If we talk about " ርስት፥ ማስመለስ" The land taken from Tigray to establish Afar is part of the equation. You cannot delay or ignore it ! If you are serious about respecting the right of the people return of the displaced people from Sudan and central Tigray to Western aTig5ay and Southern Tigray is mandatory and subsequent referendum as per the provisions in the constitution is the only solution to solve the problem.

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Re: What should Amhara offer to Tigray & vice versa to establish alliance similar to Fulani- Housa Alliance in Nigeria

Post by Axumezana » 04 Sep 2023, 22:39

Axumezana wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 00:13
In Nigeria Fulani population is 14m and Housa population is about 69m . Both have created the Northern political alliance and they have further allied with 45m Yorubas in Southern West of Nigeria. This tripartite political alliance , that integrates 128m people has stabilized the whole 224m Nigerians over the last 20 years.


To stabilize Ethiopia the following are the possible political alliances which could create critical mass to stabilize Ethiopia: Each allied state is assumed to have veto power and with rotating top leadership ( maximum every two terms( 8 years ) & proportional representation in the government based on their perspective population size.



(1) Tigray - Amhara - Oromia - Somalia alliance ( most stable)

(2) Tigray - Oromia - Somalia alliance

(3) Tigray - Amhara- Sidama/ Southern Ethiopia alliance -

(4) Oromia-Somalia -Afar Alliance to counter alliance # 3

(5) Amhara- Afar- Sidama/ Southern Ethiopia alliance to counter alliance # 2
(6) Tigray- Oromia - Somalia- Sidama/Southern Ethiopia -Afar Alliance ( marginalizes Amhara)
.
.
.
( X)


What should Amhara and Tigray offer to each other to establish alliance

- Both have to agree the future of Ethiopia is democratic federalism or Confederacy Union
- Immediate return of displaced people. The issue of border disputes have to be resolved through referendum as per the constitution
- Privatization of land and equal right for Ethiopians in every part of Ethiopia
- No dictatorship both in each state and the whole Ethiopia.
- Apology to the people ( both Amhara and Tigray)
- Joint compensation to the people affected by the war ( both for Tigrayans and Amharas)
- Justice to the crime committed in both Amhara and Tigray

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